[Python-Dev] Re: New PEP website is horrible to read on mobile device

[Damian Shaw]

I tried on Pixel 6 Pro with Android 12 with both the latest stable Chrome
and Firefox and didn't see the reported issue.

One thing I would mention though is people who can reproduce it check if
you have any extensions enabled or other tools that can block network
traffic. Sometimes privacy based extensions and tools can have false
positives and block resources required to render sites correctly.

Damian (he/him)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 6:00 PM David Mertz, Ph.D. 
wrote:

> I get pretty much the same thing as the OP on Chrome 99.0.4844.58; Android
> 11; Pixel 2 XL; Build RP1A.201005.004.A1.
>
> However, it gets more readable if I force Desktop site and zoom a bit.
> These facts are pretty common for a lot of websites, and I never gave it
> much thought.  But yes, the mobile version could be better responsive.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:17 PM Terry Reedy  wrote:
>
>> On 3/15/2022 10:06 AM, Nathan Cook wrote:
>> > Please make https://peps.python.org/  more
>> > responsive to various form factors
>> >
>> > See attached screenshot from Chrome version 99.0.4844.58 on my Pixel
>> > 3aXL running Android 12
>>
>> Are you sure that the site looks any different that it did at the older
>> url, www.python.org/peps/ ?  In any case, when I go there with Chrome on
>> my (old) Nexus 6P, pages are originally wrapped to the screen size.  If
>> I zoom in, a horizontal scrollbar is added (and suppressed) and I have
>> to scroll horizontally with my finger.  On the phone, Google search page
>> results act the same.  So do the wikipedia pages I tested.  (On my
>> desktop monitor, they rewrap on both Chrome and Firefox, although the
>> layout is different in the two browswers.)
>>
>>
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[Python-Dev] Re: New PEP website is horrible to read on mobile device

[David Mertz, Ph.D.]

I get pretty much the same thing as the OP on Chrome 99.0.4844.58; Android
11; Pixel 2 XL; Build RP1A.201005.004.A1.

However, it gets more readable if I force Desktop site and zoom a bit.
These facts are pretty common for a lot of websites, and I never gave it
much thought.  But yes, the mobile version could be better responsive.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:17 PM Terry Reedy  wrote:

> On 3/15/2022 10:06 AM, Nathan Cook wrote:
> > Please make https://peps.python.org/  more
> > responsive to various form factors
> >
> > See attached screenshot from Chrome version 99.0.4844.58 on my Pixel
> > 3aXL running Android 12
>
> Are you sure that the site looks any different that it did at the older
> url, www.python.org/peps/ ?  In any case, when I go there with Chrome on
> my (old) Nexus 6P, pages are originally wrapped to the screen size.  If
> I zoom in, a horizontal scrollbar is added (and suppressed) and I have
> to scroll horizontally with my finger.  On the phone, Google search page
> results act the same.  So do the wikipedia pages I tested.  (On my
> desktop monitor, they rewrap on both Chrome and Firefox, although the
> layout is different in the two browswers.)
>
>
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[Python-Dev] Gathering edge cases around type annotation PEPs

[Brett Cannon]

I created
https://discuss.python.org/t/finding-edge-cases-for-peps-484-463-and-649-type-annotations/14314
on behalf of the SC to help gather edge cases where the various approaches
that PEPs have proposed will fail. Our hope is to get an overall picture of
the trade-offs the various PEPs ask us to make.

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY HERE! I'm reaching out to the typing SIG and Pydantic
(at least) and it's much easier for others to log into discuss.python.org
with a GitHub account than it is to sign up for this mailing list just to
participate in this discussion.
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[Python-Dev] Re: New PEP website is horrible to read on mobile device

[Terry Reedy]

On 3/15/2022 10:06 AM, Nathan Cook wrote:
Please make https://peps.python.org/  more 
responsive to various form factors


See attached screenshot from Chrome version 99.0.4844.58 on my Pixel 
3aXL running Android 12


Are you sure that the site looks any different that it did at the older 
url, www.python.org/peps/ ?  In any case, when I go there with Chrome on 
my (old) Nexus 6P, pages are originally wrapped to the screen size.  If 
I zoom in, a horizontal scrollbar is added (and suppressed) and I have 
to scroll horizontally with my finger.  On the phone, Google search page 
results act the same.  So do the wikipedia pages I tested.  (On my 
desktop monitor, they rewrap on both Chrome and Firefox, although the 
layout is different in the two browswers.)



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Terry Jan Reedy

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[Python-Dev] Re: Defining tiered platform support

[Brett Cannon]

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:18 PM Larry Hastings  wrote:

>
> On 3/14/22 20:31, Brett Cannon wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:17 PM Victor Stinner 
> wrote:
>
>> It would be great to have the list of supported platforms per Python
>> version!
>>
>
> I could see the table in PEP 11 being copied into the release PEPs.
>
>
> By "release PEPs", you mean the release schedule PEPs, like PEP 619
> "Python 3.10 Release Schedule"?
>
> https://peps.python.org/pep-0619/
>
>
Yep!


>
> Because, yeah, I think that would be the best place for it.  Though then
> maybe the name of the PEP should change, as the document is doing double
> duty.
>

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[Python-Dev] Re: New PEP website is horrible to read on mobile device

[Sebastian Rittau]

Am 15.03.22 um 19:40 schrieb Zachary Ware:

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 1:31 PM Nathan Cook  wrote:

Please make https://peps.python.org/ more responsive to various form factors

See attached screenshot from Chrome version 99.0.4844.58 on my Pixel 3aXL 
running Android 12

I can't reproduce this without zooming in.  If you're still convinced
there's a problem with the site itself, please open an issue at
https://github.com/python/peps/issues.


And just to confirm: With nearly the same phone (Pixel 3, but not XL) 
and the same software versions everything looks fine for me.


 - Sebastian

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[Python-Dev] Re: New PEP website is horrible to read on mobile device

[Zachary Ware]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 1:31 PM Nathan Cook  wrote:
> Please make https://peps.python.org/ more responsive to various form factors
>
> See attached screenshot from Chrome version 99.0.4844.58 on my Pixel 3aXL 
> running Android 12

I can't reproduce this without zooming in.  If you're still convinced
there's a problem with the site itself, please open an issue at
https://github.com/python/peps/issues.
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[Python-Dev] Re: Defining tiered platform support

[Larry Hastings]

On 3/14/22 20:31, Brett Cannon wrote:



On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:17 PM Victor Stinner  
wrote:


It would be great to have the list of supported platforms per
Python version!


I could see the table in PEP 11 being copied into the release PEPs.



By "release PEPs", you mean the release schedule PEPs, like PEP 619 
"Python 3.10 Release Schedule"?


   https://peps.python.org/pep-0619/

Because, yeah, I think that would be the best place for it. Though then 
maybe the name of the PEP should change, as the document is doing double 
duty.



//arry/
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