Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Noel Rappin wrote: I did reinstall. I'm still having the same problem with Appscript 0.20, Snow Leopard's Python 2.6.1 The issue happens in a different place each time, but the error looks like this: File build/bdist.macosx-10.6-universal/egg/appscript/reference.py, line 504, in __call__ appscript.reference.CommandError: Command failed: OSERROR: -1712 MESSAGE: Apple event timed out. COMMAND: app(u'/Applications/iTunes.app').sources.ID (41).library_playlists.ID(25438).file_tracks.ID (32305).played_count.get() Did you force the reinstall? It appears so, since it reached the 10.6 appscript install. Sorry. No idea what is happening there. I'm able to interact with iTunes just fine (so far) with 10.6. I have to now try and see what effect the new library layout might have on my Python code. Brad -- Brad Howes Group 42 MIT Lincoln Laboratory • 244 Wood St. • Lexington, MA 02173 Phone: 781.981.5292 • Fax: 781.981.3495 • Secretary: 781.981.7420 ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard
Greetings On 2009 Sep 11, at 15:02, Brad Howes wrote: Did you force the reinstall? It appears so, since it reached the 10.6 appscript install. How do you do that? My own problem here [1] is that I can't work out how to make appscript play with python 2.6 (or 10.6). Sorry. No idea what is happening there. I'm able to interact with iTunes just fine (so far) with 10.6. That's what I'm aiming to be able to do (as worked in 10.5). All the best, Norman [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2009-September/021581.html -- Norman Gray : http://nxg.me.uk Dept Physics and Astronomy, University of Leicester, UK ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard
On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Norman Gray wrote: Did you force the reinstall? It appears so, since it reached the 10.6 appscript install. How do you do that? My own problem here [1] is that I can't work out how to make appscript play with python 2.6 (or 10.6). I thought I had used the -U option with easy_install, but looking at my notes, I did the following: - Download the appscript-0.20.0.tar.gz file - Expand the tarball - Go into the appscript-0.20.0 directory - sudo python setup.py install I'm using the stock 10.6 Python (2.6.1). Brad -- Brad Howes Group 42 MIT Lincoln Laboratory • 244 Wood St. • Lexington, MA 02173 Phone: 781.981.5292 • Fax: 781.981.3495 • Secretary: 781.981.7420 ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
[Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard. The problem is that when I build and install libjpeg or libpng, it builds 64-bit libraries, but Python 2.5 is 32-bit, so the libraries don't work when PIL tries to use them. You get an error message something like this: import _imaging ImportError: dlopen(/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/PIL/_imaging.so, 2): Symbol not found: _jpeg_resync_to_restart Referenced from: /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/PIL/_imaging.so Expected in: dynamic lookup Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard. The problem is that when I build and install libjpeg or libpng, it builds 64-bit libraries, but Python 2.5 is 32-bit, so the libraries don't work when PIL tries to use them. You get an error message something like this: Can you try recompiling with -arch i386 -arch x86_64 options in the CFLAGS? I think I had gotten this to work for some other libraries when I ran into the dreaded linking problem. You might instead need to do CC=gcc -arch... if the configure tool munges the CFLAGS too much. % CFLAGS=-arch i386 -arch x86_64 ./configure ... or % CC=gcc -arch... ./configure ... Brad -- Brad Howes Group 42 MIT Lincoln Laboratory • 244 Wood St. • Lexington, MA 02173 Phone: 781.981.5292 • Fax: 781.981.3495 • Secretary: 781.981.7420 ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
[Pythonmac-SIG] size of py2app app
My app changes just a little here and there between builds, and my setup.py doesn't change at all. Sometimes the app (using python setup.py py2app --strip --iconfile MyApp.icns) comes out to about 47 MB, and sometimes it comes out to I have an app that sometimes comes out to about 95 MB. I can't pin down anything that makes the difference. I know --strip is the default now, but putting it in or leaving it out seems to have no effect. What am I missing? I'm using py2app-0.4.2-py2.6.egg. Charles Hartman ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Brad Howes wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard. The problem is that when I build and install libjpeg or libpng, it builds 64-bit libraries, but Python 2.5 is 32-bit, so the libraries don't work when PIL tries to use them. You get an error message something like this: Can you try recompiling with -arch i386 -arch x86_64 options in the CFLAGS? I think I had gotten this to work for some other libraries when I ran into the dreaded linking problem. You might instead need to do CC=gcc -arch... if the configure tool munges the CFLAGS too much. % CFLAGS=-arch i386 -arch x86_64 ./configure ... or % CC=gcc -arch... ./configure ... Brad -- Brad Howes Group 42 MIT Lincoln Laboratory • 244 Wood St. • Lexington, MA 02173 Phone: 781.981.5292 • Fax: 781.981.3495 • Secretary: 781.981.7420 It sounds like the core issue here is that the compiler now builds x86_64 binaries by default on SL. Everything that builds directly through distutils should know to build all the correct architectures, but dependent projects that use standard Makefiles may need to be told to compile 32-bit. Though I haven't tried to build PIL myself, I have built libjpeg and libpng before, and setting CC while running configure as suggested by Brad did work for me. This is an unfortunate side-effect of the transition to full 64-bit computing in Mac OS X, and trying to maintain 32-bit compatibility at the same time. -- Edward Moy Apple Inc. e...@apple.com ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
Brad Howes ho...@ll.mit.edu wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard. The problem is that when I build and install libjpeg or libpng, it builds 64-bit libraries, but Python 2.5 is 32-bit, so the libraries don't work when PIL tries to use them. You get an error message something like this: Can you try recompiling with -arch i386 -arch x86_64 options in the CFLAGS? I think I had gotten this to work for some other libraries when I ran into the dreaded linking problem. You might instead need to do CC=gcc -arch... if the configure tool munges the CFLAGS too much. % CFLAGS=-arch i386 -arch x86_64 ./configure ... or % CC=gcc -arch... ./configure ... Brad Thanks, Brad, I've tried this. It does build the .a files multi-platform, but not the dylib files. And some libraries, like libpng, use -M switches which conflict with multiple architecture flags on the compile line. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
Brad Howes wrote: Can you try recompiling with -arch i386 -arch x86_64 options in the CFLAGS? wouldn't you want: -arch i386 -arch PPC To be compatible with the python2.5 build? Adding the 64 bit lib wouldn't hurt, but it wouldn't' help, either, unless you want to use it with other things that need it. You may also simply be able to use a binary of PIL. There is this one here: http://pythonmac.org/packages/py25-fat/index.html Which is for the python.org 2.5, but you may be able hand-copy some stuff over. I did set up a build to PIL, using macports to build libjpeg and libpng. They build well using the universal variant on a 10.5 Intel system. I'm not sure what macports is building on SL, but it's worth checking out. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR(206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] size of py2app app
Charles Hartman wrote: My app changes just a little here and there between builds, and my setup.py doesn't change at all. Sometimes the app (using python setup.py py2app --strip --iconfile MyApp.icns) comes out to about 47 MB, and sometimes it comes out to I have an app that sometimes comes out to about 95 MB. Weird. Are you totally sure you're doing the same thing? same python, for instance? Can you get both versions so you can compare them? -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/ORR(206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
On 11 Sep 2009, at 18:50, Bill Janssen wrote: I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard. Hm, haven't upgraded to snow leopard yet but i'd expect 2.6 to be in there.. heard they also removed twisted :( Thijs PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
On 11 Sep 2009, at 18:50, Bill Janssen wrote:
I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm
less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow
Leopard.
Hm, haven't upgraded to snow leopard yet but i'd expect 2.6 to be in
there.. heard they also removed twisted :(
Thijs
Yes, both 2.5 and 2.6 are available on SL (as well as enough of 2.3 to
provide embedded support).
Twisted seems to be there:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.{5,6}/Extras/
lib/python/twisted
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard
Yes, 2.6 is there, but I thought I'd try building with 2.5. Now, given the issues with 32/64 bit, I think I'm just going to upgrade the OS X UpLib installation to 64 bits, and just use 2.6. Still haven't got the JPEG support in PIL 1.1.6 working that way, but most of the rest seems to work. Bill Thijs Triemstra | Collab li...@collab.nl wrote: On 11 Sep 2009, at 18:50, Bill Janssen wrote: I was happy to see that Python 2.5 still shipped with SL, but now I'm less happy. I can't seem to compile PIL for Python 2.5 on Snow Leopard. Hm, haven't upgraded to snow leopard yet but i'd expect 2.6 to be in there.. heard they also removed twisted :( Thijs ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
