Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel O'Donovan
Hi Tony, 

1. Why are there so many variations of the Python installer for the Mac?


I think you'll find that the biggest difference between MacPorts python (and 
fink python) and most other builds (python.org for example), is that MacPorts 
uses X11 rather than Aqua (Apple's native window manager) and are not built as 
Apple 'Frameworks' - but rather regular shared libraries (more like with 
linux). 

Using fink and MacPorts help integration with many linux type apps 
(particularly helpful for scientific programming) whilst the native, Framework 
builds are better for native looking Macintosh apps - and the Apple bundled 
python is obviously native. 

This is a simple summary, and there are 101 more differences between all the 
builds - but I think the first decision you'll want to make is whether to go 
the Linux route, or go 'native' ;-)

hth,

Dan 

Daniel O'Donovan
dan.odono...@gmail.com



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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel O'Donovan
 And- I want to update the default python that came om my macbook pro to 2.7. 
 Should I do install that from Python.org?

I personally think that this would be the simplest solution - but other 
distributions do have their virtues and proponents. For example, Enthought 
takes the pain out of maintaining a good numpy / matplotlib installation and I 
find Activestate make building for distribution a pleasure. 

For now, stick with the python.org and then switching at any point is always 
simple - the folks here are always friendly and full of advice!

Happy coding, 

Dan

Daniel O'Donovan
dan.odono...@gmail.com



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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

2011-01-17 Thread Bill Janssen
Tony Cappellini cappy2...@gmail.com wrote:

 And- I want to update the default python that came om my macbook pro to 2.7.
 Should I do install that from Python.org?

My advice?  I've never had good luck trying to update the default
Python that comes with the Mac.  I'd recommend just leaving it alone and
using it, unless there's some reason you absolutely need 2.7.

It is safe to build (and run) a non-Framework build of other versions of
Python in various places on your Mac, but life gets complicated if you
attempt to install it.

Bill
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.2rc1 available: new 10.6 IDLE and tkinter options

2011-01-17 Thread Aahz
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011, Ned Deily wrote:

 The first release candidate of Python 3.2 is now available.  As with 
 Python 2.7.1, two variants of Mac OS X installers are available for this 
 release:  the traditional 32-bit-only installer that works on all 
 machines supported by Mac OS X 10.3.9 through current 10.6.x ; and a new 
 64-bit/32-bit installer for OS X 10.6.x systems.

Thanks for your hard work!
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python development on OSX

2011-01-17 Thread Tony Cappellini
I do want 2.7 because it's a requirement at work.
I want to have the same versions  packages to avoid compatibility issues.

I can put Python2.7 in a different directory and leave 2.6 there but I want
the 2.7 installation
to be the default one.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote:

 Tony Cappellini cappy2...@gmail.com wrote:

  And- I want to update the default python that came om my macbook pro to
 2.7.
  Should I do install that from Python.org?

 My advice?  I've never had good luck trying to update the default
 Python that comes with the Mac.  I'd recommend just leaving it alone and
 using it, unless there's some reason you absolutely need 2.7.

 It is safe to build (and run) a non-Framework build of other versions of
 Python in various places on your Mac, but life gets complicated if you
 attempt to install it.

 Bill

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.2rc1 available: new 10.6 IDLE and tkinter options

2011-01-17 Thread Stephen Gava



On 18/01/11 8:35 AM, Aahz wrote:

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011, Ned Deily wrote:


The first release candidate of Python 3.2 is now available.  As with
Python 2.7.1, two variants of Mac OS X installers are available for this
release:  the traditional 32-bit-only installer that works on all
machines supported by Mac OS X 10.3.9 through current 10.6.x ; and a new
64-bit/32-bit installer for OS X 10.6.x systems.


Thanks for your hard work!


+10

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