Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
On 17 Sep, 2009, at 23:50, Bill Janssen wrote: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Bill, Appscript probably gets installed as a zipped egg, the .python-eggs directory gets created when a real filesystem path is needed for an item in such an egg. Yes, that's part of the problem. The other part is that .pth handling seems to have changed from 2.5 to 2.6. If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. How does one do that? Either python setup.py bdist_egg and then use the right flags to easy_install; or add 'zip_safe = False' to the arguments of setup() in setup.py install install using python setup.py install. Ronald smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
On 17 Sep, 2009, at 23:50, Bill Janssen wrote: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Bill, Appscript probably gets installed as a zipped egg, the .python-eggs directory gets created when a real filesystem path is needed for an item in such an egg. Yes, that's part of the problem. The other part is that .pth handling seems to have changed from 2.5 to 2.6. That's news to me. I've been using zipped eggs with 2.6 without any problems. Ronald smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: On 17 Sep, 2009, at 23:50, Bill Janssen wrote: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Bill, Appscript probably gets installed as a zipped egg, the .python-eggs directory gets created when a real filesystem path is needed for an item in such an egg. Yes, that's part of the problem. The other part is that .pth handling seems to have changed from 2.5 to 2.6. If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. How does one do that? Either python setup.py bdist_egg and then use the right flags to easy_install; or add 'zip_safe = False' to the arguments of setup() in setup.py install install using python setup.py install. Thanks, Ronald. Hmmm. Neither seems ideal. The first idea involves actually *using* setuptools (easy_install), and the second involves editing the setup.py file. I suppose I could use python setup.py bdist_egg, then use unzip to unpack it in the right place, too. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Yes, that's part of the problem. The other part is that .pth handling seems to have changed from 2.5 to 2.6. That's news to me. I've been using zipped eggs with 2.6 without any problems. Don't know that it had anything to do with eggs. What I was seeing was different sys.path construction between 2.5 and 2.6, both on SL. In 2.5, it went through and added the directories specified by .pth files in /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages; in 2.6, it didn't. Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding the way the processing of .pth files works. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Bill, Appscript probably gets installed as a zipped egg, the .python-eggs directory gets created when a real filesystem path is needed for an item in such an egg. Yes, that's part of the problem. The other part is that .pth handling seems to have changed from 2.5 to 2.6. If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. How does one do that? Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009, Bill Janssen wrote: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. How does one do that? You can unzip manually as with any other .ZIP file, or you can do easy_install with -Z. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ I won't accept a model of the universe in which free will, omniscient gods, and atheism are simultaneously true. --M ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
In article 20090917234722.gb26...@panix.com, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009, Bill Janssen wrote: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. How does one do that? You can unzip manually as with any other .ZIP file, or you can do easy_install with -Z. ... and if you always want to install eggs unzipped, add the following to one of the distutils config files, i.e. ~/.pydistutils.cfg: [easy_install] zip-ok = 0 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
has hengist.p...@virgin.net wrote: On 13 Sep 2009, at 18:52, Bill Janssen wrote: Is it possible to disentangle appscript from setuptools? I just downloaded the sources to my Snow Leopard machine, did python setup.py build python setup.py install which went just fine. But then I did % python import appscript and got this big stack trace because a ~/.python-eggs subdirectory wasn't accessible. That shouldn't happen, and I'd like to remove any dependence on setuptools and eggs, if possible. You can install appscript from source using plain old distutils; the setup.py script will use setuptools if it's available and distutils if not. Though if there are problems with setuptools then I'd suggest filing bug reports on that as well. I'd like to suggest an option to use distutils even if setuptools is available. Filing bug reports on setuptools seems like a losing proposition; I'd have to understand how it works first. How about *you* file the bug reports there? You're the one using it. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
On 14 Sep 2009, at 16:28, Bill Janssen wrote: has hengist.p...@virgin.net wrote: You can install appscript from source using plain old distutils; the setup.py script will use setuptools if it's available and distutils if not. Though if there are problems with setuptools then I'd suggest filing bug reports on that as well. I'd like to suggest an option to use distutils even if setuptools is available. Don't know how that could be done automatically as both use the same setup.py file. If you want to do it manually, replace the first five lines in the setup.py script with this: from distutils.core import setup, Extension Filing bug reports on setuptools seems like a losing proposition; I'd have to understand how it works first. How about *you* file the bug reports there? You're the one using it. I've not had any problems using it myself. Regards, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
Bill, Appscript probably gets installed as a zipped egg, the .python-eggs directory gets created when a real filesystem path is needed for an item in such an egg. If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. Ronald On 13 sep 2009, at 19:52, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote: Is it possible to disentangle appscript from setuptools? I just downloaded the sources to my Snow Leopard machine, did python setup.py build python setup.py install which went just fine. But then I did % python import appscript and got this big stack trace because a ~/.python-eggs subdirectory wasn't accessible. That shouldn't happen, and I'd like to remove any dependence on setuptools and eggs, if possible. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript and Snow Leopard and setuptools...
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Appscript probably gets installed as a zipped egg, the .python-eggs directory gets created when a real filesystem path is needed for an item in such an egg. If you install appscript as an unzipped egg the problem should go away. My auto-installer for the packages needed by my company's product now includes -Z for everything. It also unzips setuptools if needed. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it. ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
