Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-18 Thread gdgqler

On 17 Jun 2010, at 23:44, P Witte wrote:

  The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, where data storage 
 and even processing power is an off-site, on-line service. Thats a major 
 paradigm shift - back to square one, some three or four generations ago.

Aha! But how do you program for this?

George
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[Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued

2010-06-18 Thread Malcolm Cadman

Hi,

Following this up.

It is clear that the last two on this list  - 7- Surrey and 8 - Sussex 
- no longer operate.


Can anyone confirm the operation of numbers 1, 2, and 6 on the list ?

As George contributes regularly to this list, he can confirm the details 
for number 5.



1 - West Midlands - Meets at the Bull, 1 Price Street, Birmingham.
Meet 1st and 3rd Monday of each month, members pay £1 a Meeting.
24 times a Year ?

2 - Dorset - No described location.
Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated.
12 times a Year ?

3 - London - School Room, Welsh Congregational Chapel, London SE1.
Meet second Sunday of each month - 10 times a Year.
Now changing over to 8 times a Year in 2010.

4 - North-East Manchester - 181 Urmston Lane, Stretford, Manchester.
Meet last Thursday of each month, except December.
11 times a Year.

5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home.
Meet second Sunday of every month.
12 times a Year ?

6 - Solent - Botley Market Hall.
Meet first Saturday of every month.
12 times a Year ?

7 - Surrey - No venue announced.
Meet last Wednesday of every month, except December.
11 times a Year ?

8 - Sussex - No venue announced.
No meeting place.
? times a Year.

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[Ql-Users] QL Today - Volume 14, Issue 3

2010-06-18 Thread Malcolm Cadman

Hi,

Just received the QL Today - Volume 14, Issue 3 - today Friday 18th June 
2010, in London.


So any postal delays are now fixed ?

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Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-18 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c1aa536.3070...@witte.fsbusiness.co.uk, P Witte 
p...@witte.fsbusiness.co.uk writes


Damn, I missed all the fun as Orange havent delivered the mail for over 
a week ;o( Not even the message to tell me that I need to agree to 
their new conditions before I can use my mail account (via an email 
client or even their webmail interface). How dumb and unhelpful is that!


Regarding floppies, No, you cant format DD disks in Vista or W7 as the 
native drivers dont support it. No problem reading them, though, and no 
problem formating HD disks from W7 or from within QPC - at least there 
shouldnt be. Solution: Copy your old stuff to HDDs and go on living!


As for the QL future, I guess there aint any, at least not at the 
present (if that makes sense). Modern computers have evolved far beyond 
what was envisaged when the QL was young. Surely we dont need yet 
another way of doing the same old tired things any fool can now do with 
Linux, Windoze or Macs. The current trend appears to be towards Cloud 
computing, where data storage and even processing power is an off-site, 
on-line service. Thats a major paradigm shift - back to square one, 
some three or four generations ago.


There is still the possibility that some of the seminal concepts from 
the QL era will come round again in a new form in the future, so its 
worthwhile hanging on in there and keeping it alive as best we can. And 
if not, weve still had our moneys worth!


Per


Hi Per,

You are right to point out that what we call computing is moving on.

Certainly in the office work environment there are many individual 
machines - now usually networked in some form - who knows what that will 
be like in just a few years time ?


At home devices are all converging with many intelligent features 
embedded.


Individual computers, as we have known them may then rapidly disappear 
in favour of the ipad style of machine.


So, what will a QL21 - code name for a project for a 21st Century 
version of QL heritage - actually be like?


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[Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued

2010-06-18 Thread Christopher Cave
Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought not to
be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. Yes,
we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on a
Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the
generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to come
they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta page).

Christopher Cave

 Original Message 

*From:* Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk
*To:* ql-us...@q-v-d.com
*Date:* Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:32:26 +0100

Hi,

Following this up.

It is clear that the last two on this list  - 7- Surrey and 8 - Sussex 
- no longer operate.

Can anyone confirm the operation of numbers 1, 2, and 6 on the list ?

As George contributes regularly to this list, he can confirm the details 
for number 5.


1 - West Midlands - Meets at the Bull, 1 Price Street, Birmingham.
Meet 1st and 3rd Monday of each month, members pay £1 a Meeting.
24 times a Year ?

2 - Dorset - No described location.
Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated.
12 times a Year ?

3 - London - School Room, Welsh Congregational Chapel, London SE1.
Meet second Sunday of each month - 10 times a Year.
Now changing over to 8 times a Year in 2010.

4 - North-East Manchester - 181 Urmston Lane, Stretford, Manchester.
Meet last Thursday of each month, except December.
11 times a Year.

5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home.
Meet second Sunday of every month.
12 times a Year ?

6 - Solent - Botley Market Hall.
Meet first Saturday of every month.
12 times a Year ?

7 - Surrey - No venue announced.
Meet last Wednesday of every month, except December.
11 times a Year ?

8 - Sussex - No venue announced.
No meeting place.
? times a Year.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today - Volume 14, Issue 3

2010-06-18 Thread Jochen Merz

Hi Malcolm,

I hope it was issue 4 ...
many of the readers have received them within the past 4 days or so - I 
actually got some renewals already - thanks a lot :-)


Cheers   Jochen



Malcolm Cadman wrote:

Hi,

Just received the QL Today - Volume 14, Issue 3 - today Friday 18th June 
2010, in London.


So any postal delays are now fixed ?



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued

2010-06-18 Thread Geoff Wicks



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From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:32 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued



2 - Dorset - No described location.
Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated.
12 times a Year ?

This is a recent change of events. Until earlier this year they met in the 
Merley Community Centre, but presumably this is no longer possible following 
the death of John Meadows. Given the small number of people living in the 
catchment area I think Dorset are to be congratulated for still having a sub 
group,


Best Wishes,


Geoff 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued

2010-06-18 Thread Geoff Wicks



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From: Christopher Cave cave...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users]  Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued


Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought not to
be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. Yes,
we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on a
Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the
generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to come
they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta page).



Have you considered rewording what you put in the Quanta Magazine - and on 
the website - to make this clearer?


Best Wishes,

Geoff 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued

2010-06-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought 
not to
be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. 
Yes,
we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on 
a

Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the
generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to 
come
they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta 
page).


Christopher Cave
In other words, contact details correct for the Surrey group as they 
stand?


Roy - I take it you want the Sussex group entry removed, then?

I'm grateful to Malcolm for bringing this up. Can anyone else whose 
subgroup is listed wrongly please contact me and (despite my 
experiences with the international groups) I'll try to make sure the 
list is brought up to date in Quanta mag.


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued

2010-06-18 Thread Roy Wood

On 18/06/2010 20:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Roy - I take it you want the Sussex group entry removed, then?

Unless someone else has convened a group - yes.

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