Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
Dilwyn - can you add the GST programs to the Sinclair QL Homepage (split into different ZIP files!) Rich That took a bit longer than I thought! So the GST 68K/OS, QC, QL Assembler and Q-Mac macro assembler are now available to download from ym website, as follows: I have created a new page on my website for the GST 68K/OS stuff at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gst68kos/index.html although it doesn't include the microdrive software part as I don't know how to convert it (it's not the same as QDOS microdrive format). On this page you can run the 68K/OS system in a QemuLator demo which Urs had prepared. If, like me, you get error messages when you try to use the demo QemuLator it is probably because you have another version ofQemuLator on your system - if so, use your registered version, go into the QL menu, select QL Configuration and find the GST_68K-OS BIN file to use as Main ROM in Qemulator and deselect any Back ROM such as a Toolkit 2 ROM image. Click OK. QemuLator should now start as a 68K/OS. (Note: having never run this before I'm not 100% sure if the above instructions are correct - if they are, could someone let me know so I can add them to the web pageonce we know they are OK). The Q-Mac and GST QL Assembler are both on the Assembler page on my website. The QL Assembler is under GST-ASM, and the Q-Mac is under Q-Mac on the page: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/asm/index.html The GST QC development system is on my C page at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/c/index.html under GST QC. Not being C literate, I hope I have put this file together properly! Various manuals, pictures and scanned adverts and reviews are available as separate zip and PDF files on the pages. Some of them are quite large, e.g. the scanned QC manual is over 20MB, so take note of the file sizes before downloading (file sizes are in brackets alongside the descriptions). Dilwyn Jones. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] DEBUG
On 18 Feb 2012, at 13:38, Michael Bulford wrote: I use DEBUG 0 and 1 for the same reasons as you and have never had the fault you mention. If you could send me, privately, a copy of your program I'll try to locate the problem. Thanks for your offer of help, this is really appreciated. However, I believe I have solved the problem. I tried moving the piece of code to near the beginning of the program, and this solved the puzzle. My guess is that because my program is over 64k, the DEBUG mechanism could not cope, so that the fault is actually with Turbo. DEBUG must be using unsigned integers, when it should be using floating point variables. That is my guess. The piece of code under question is: DEBUG is trapped by PARSER_TASK to see whether code is to be ignored or compiled. If fact in PARSER_TASK the values 0 to 9 (which is the allowed range of DEBUG) are held in an fp variable. 22268 REMark DEBUG 1 22276 DEFine PROCedure how 22284 LOCal p, scan_rt 22292 CLS 2 : PRINT 22300 p = BASIC_L(56) 22308 REPeat scan_rt 22316 p = p + 24 22324 IF p BASIC_L(60)-24 : EXIT scan_rt 22332 IF BASIC_W%(p+18)0 22340 PRINT Call at ;BASIC_W%(p+18); in ; 22348 ELSE 22356 PRINT Stop at ;BASIC_W%(146); in ; 22364 END IF 22372 IF BASIC_W%(p-12) 0 : IF NOT COMPILED : LIST #1; BASIC_W%(p-12) 22380 END REPeat scan_rt 22388 END DEFine how 22396 REMark DEBUG 0 With the DEBUG commands REMarked out TURBO will ignore them. With the DEBUG commands not REMarked out the IF NOT COMPILED is, of course, not needed. This piece was copied from the Turbo Toolkit Demos file, the original procedure name being How_COME. My idea of using DEBUG was to try and save a little bit of code, because my program is so large. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
On 19/02/2012 15:00, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Dilwyn - can you add the GST programs to the Sinclair QL Homepage (split into different ZIP files!) Rich That took a bit longer than I thought! So the GST 68K/OS, QC, QL Assembler and Q-Mac macro assembler are now available to download from ym website, as follows: I have created a new page on my website for the GST 68K/OS stuff at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gst68kos/index.html although it doesn't include the microdrive software part as I don't know how to convert it (it's not the same as QDOS microdrive format). On this page you can run the 68K/OS system in a QemuLator demo which Urs had prepared. If, like me, you get error messages when you try to use the demo QemuLator it is probably because you have another version ofQemuLator on your system - if so, use your registered version, go into the QL menu, select QL Configuration and find the GST_68K-OS BIN file to use as Main ROM in Qemulator and deselect any Back ROM such as a Toolkit 2 ROM image. Click OK. QemuLator should now start as a 68K/OS. (Note: having never run this before I'm not 100% sure if the above instructions are correct - if they are, could someone let me know so I can add them to the web pageonce we know they are OK). The Q-Mac and GST QL Assembler are both on the Assembler page on my website. The QL Assembler is under GST-ASM, and the Q-Mac is under Q-Mac on the page: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/asm/index.html The GST QC development system is on my C page at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/c/index.html under GST QC. Not being C literate, I hope I have put this file together properly! Various manuals, pictures and scanned adverts and reviews are available as separate zip and PDF files on the pages. Some of them are quite large, e.g. the scanned QC manual is over 20MB, so take note of the file sizes before downloading (file sizes are in brackets alongside the descriptions). Dilwyn Jones. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Many thanks Dilwyn, I couldn't find the microdrive images for use with 68K/OS - I presume they must be in the zip file somewhere but then how has URS got them into the zip file? What software was produced for 68K/OS - does anyone know? There should be a 68K/Assembler if nothing else. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
I couldn't find the microdrive images for use with 68K/OS - I presume they must be in the zip file somewhere but then how has URS got them into the zip file? No - the microdrive cartridges were 68K/OS format so Urs was unable to transfer them to a zip file. They are not there. Only the ROM image and manuals are there. You would need to transfer them out of the 68K/OS microdrive cartridges and environment somehow - I have no idea how. Plus of course it would be necessary to find a way of getting them back into the 68K/OS environment, or at least a hack to the QemuLator demo to allow 68K/OS to read MDV image files or a QLPAK somehow. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
You would need to transfer them out of the 68K/OS microdrive cartridges and environment somehow - I have no idea how. One possibility is to create a ROM disk. 68k/OS interface has two extra ROM slots for the ROMdisk (and the ADAM environment is probably also stored in the ROM as a file on ROMdisk). Problem is - no one knows, how the ROMdisk is organised. And, probably the two microdrive cartridges with utilities and assembler will not fit into 32 kB of ROM available for ROMdisk. The second possibility is to send the file from microdrive to serial and archive its content on the PC, but I don't have this utility for 68k/OS (as only one of the two cartridges was readable). ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
In message B8842DD6878A48E6B2BCCB7729AE75A5@AnnPC, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk writes Great work Dilwyn. Having all of this easily available will assist many people. I also like the idea of 'mirror' web site ... ym as opposed to my ... :-) Dilwyn - can you add the GST programs to the Sinclair QL Homepage (split into different ZIP files!) Rich That took a bit longer than I thought! So the GST 68K/OS, QC, QL Assembler and Q-Mac macro assembler are now available to download from ym website, as follows: I have created a new page on my website for the GST 68K/OS stuff at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gst68kos/index.html although it doesn't include the microdrive software part as I don't know how to convert it (it's not the same as QDOS microdrive format). On this page you can run the 68K/OS system in a QemuLator demo which Urs had prepared. If, like me, you get error messages when you try to use the demo QemuLator it is probably because you have another version ofQemuLator on your system - if so, use your registered version, go into the QL menu, select QL Configuration and find the GST_68K-OS BIN file to use as Main ROM in Qemulator and deselect any Back ROM such as a Toolkit 2 ROM image. Click OK. QemuLator should now start as a 68K/OS. (Note: having never run this before I'm not 100% sure if the above instructions are correct - if they are, could someone let me know so I can add them to the web pageonce we know they are OK). The Q-Mac and GST QL Assembler are both on the Assembler page on my website. The QL Assembler is under GST-ASM, and the Q-Mac is under Q-Mac on the page: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/asm/index.html The GST QC development system is on my C page at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/c/index.html under GST QC. Not being C literate, I hope I have put this file together properly! Various manuals, pictures and scanned adverts and reviews are available as separate zip and PDF files on the pages. Some of them are quite large, e.g. the scanned QC manual is over 20MB, so take note of the file sizes before downloading (file sizes are in brackets alongside the descriptions). Dilwyn Jones. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
Great work Dilwyn. Having all of this easily available will assist many people. Thanks, Malcolm. I also like the idea of 'mirror' web site ... ym as opposed to my ... :-) um website... One of these days I'll master the English language :o) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
Dilwyn Jones schrieb: I couldn't find the microdrive images for use with 68K/OS - I presume they must be in the zip file somewhere but then how has URS got them into the zip file? No - the microdrive cartridges were 68K/OS format so Urs was unable to transfer them to a zip file. They are not there. Only the ROM image and manuals are there. You would need to transfer them out of the 68K/OS microdrive cartridges and environment somehow - I have no idea how. Plus of course it would be necessary to find a way of getting them back into the 68K/OS environment, or at least a hack to the QemuLator demo to allow 68K/OS to read MDV image files or a QLPAK somehow. What's about networking ? I mean QL-networking of course: one QL running with 68K/OS another one with QDOS - may be they are compatible in this way - if not, have a try with a SER-connection (68KQL to QDOSQL or 68KQL to some computer with a RS232) Gerhard ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] GST QED Editor
Gerhard Plavec wrote: I mean QL-networking of course: one QL running with 68K/OS another one with QDOS - may be they are compatible in this way - if not, have a try with a SER-connection (68KQL to QDOSQL or 68KQL to some computer with a RS232) 68K/OS is weird and in any case has no Basic or other language readily available for experiments (plus my assembler microdrive died right before I wanted to make a backup :-( But doesn't make much of a difference as I don't have any documentation of the OS API). I actually tried to extract the microdrive code from 68K/OS and implant it into a QDOS executable, but it didn't work right away and I didn't have the time to check why. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm