Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator
Do you think you could send me a small file (one line basic would be enough) with that, so that I could test it? Sure, sending one off list. Daniele ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 06:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Downloaded and un-zipped the files. .jar file; double click - nothing; try the java instruction from manual; right click and open with offers Java so accept that. Lot of action from hard disk then nothing. It is Vista. Disappointing. and awfully time consuming. Bryan H Hi Bryan, for some reason, the file association between a .jar file and java wasn't done in your system. I don't have a windows system here right now, but the jar file must be started with the -jar parameter, eg. jave -jar path to filename. DO you know how to open a command prompt under WIndows? If you, do so, and the cd into the directory where you have unzipped SMSQmulator. From there type java -jar SMSQmulator.jar. Report back any errors Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thanks Tim Wolfgang for the helpful advice. I did start by clearing out Java and installing ver 7 afresh. When I use the command prompt as described, there is a pause and then a load of error messages scroll up the screen. And Tim, I've tried Genj; the set-up was supposed to set a desktop short cut, but didn't, and nothing happens when I double click on Genj.jar. I did manage to freeze thisfirst error line, but strayed into the cmd screen and it scrolled on. Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0java.lang. NoClass.. I think that I had better get someone more knowledgeable than myself actually on the computer, when they might quickly spot the problem. As an engineer I know the difficulty of diagnosing faults at a distance. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
From: Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013, 9:32 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading On 28/01/2013 06:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Downloaded and un-zipped the files. .jar file; double click - nothing; try the java instruction from manual; right click and open with offers Java so accept that. Lot of action from hard disk then nothing. It is Vista. Disappointing. and awfully time consuming. Bryan H Hi Bryan, and well done Wolfgang same thing happened on my PC Brian first time. Although the files and .jar file appeared in the folder it would not load, I moved the files to a new folder then right click and choose Extract all then it works BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator, a reset to before the upgrade seems to have cured this I'm way down the ladder of computer literacy just about one rung up thanks to Sbasic so here's what could be a silly question for those that might knoe - I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi I have done another test, prompted by the comments regarding re-writing to the screen. My little test program, did mean that in every loop the screen was completly re-writen. If my understanding is correct. So since I have a fairly complex boot program, loading extentions and sorting out between different platforms etc. It has some screen stuff as well. So is most likly more representive of a real program. I now measure 3.57 times slower than QPC. So this clearly more complicated than I first thought. I did not mean to miss lead anybody, I think SMSQmulator is great. I just did not know that screen writing would have such an effect. But clearly it does. I did say people should check the programs they want to use on SMSQmulator. I just did this to offer some feedback. It also explains why I did not find any problem with speed using xchange for example. Ian - Original Message - From: Daniele Terdina danieleterd...@hotmail.com To: ql-users ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator Do you think you could send me a small file (one line basic would be enough) with that, so that I could test it? Sure, sending one off list. Daniele ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 10:20, WILLIAM WAUGH wrote: From: Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013, 9:32 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading On 28/01/2013 06:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Downloaded and un-zipped the files. .jar file; double click - nothing; try the java instruction from manual; right click and open with offers Java so accept that. Lot of action from hard disk then nothing. It is Vista. Disappointing. and awfully time consuming. Bryan H Hi Bryan, and well done Wolfgang same thing happened on my PC Brian first time. Although the files and .jar file appeared in the folder it would not load, I moved the files to a new folder then right click and choose Extract all then it works BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator, a reset to before the upgrade seems to have cured this I'm way down the ladder of computer literacy just about one rung up thanks to Sbasic so here's what could be a silly question for those that might knoe - I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good All the best - Bill Bill and Wolfgang, Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set, instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs. In haste. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/13 11:14, Bryan Horstmann wrote:
Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set,
instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave
that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs.
I wonder if it is because there's a space in at least one of the folders
in the full path name? I know some programs don't like spaces (or other
weird characters) in the path. They get confused at the first one.
Linux, on the other hand, copes!
On 64 bit Windows, all 32 bit applications are installed into program
files (x86) or similar, and quite a lot of them barf at the space, and
the '(' or ')' - so Microsoft give you a folder by default that many
programs cannot actually use. Go figure.
Cheers,
Norm.
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Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: I'm thinking of ditching my header for SFA files, and simply use yours. That would make the two emulators compatible in this respect if it can be done. A good step forward! Does anybody on this list already have many files saved on an SFA device? For my part, I use QXL.WIN with nothing but a few trial files in the SFA device. It might be an idea to write a simple conversion utility you can use to copy and change the file header, although the simple way out for users is to copy all files into a QXL.WIN before upgrading, and after the upgrade copy them into the new SFA device's folder. Another idea for SMSQmulator, although I am a bit afraid of what Wolfgang would say for even suggesting something which would cause this much work (!), is a device which can read a Qubide format hard disk. I think some people had used flash memory cards in Qubide QL systems, as at one time there were IDE interface memory card readers. Provides a means of getting large numbers of files to the emulator from a real QL, rather than have to create dozens of QL disk images. Just an idea! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
William Waugh wrote: BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator Careful, Bill! Wolfgang is at pains to point out SMSQmulator is not a QL (nor QDOS) emulator - it uses SMSQ/E. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/2013 12:41, Dilwyn Jones wrote: William Waugh wrote: BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator Careful, Bill! Wolfgang is at pains to point out SMSQmulator is not a QL (nor QDOS) emulator - it uses SMSQ/E. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm . OOPS - yes apologies Wolfgang and anyone else concerned, perhaps I'm a little bit distracted by the fact I actually got something on a PC to work All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 12:00, Norman Dunbar wrote:
On 28/01/13 11:14, Bryan Horstmann wrote:
Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set,
instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave
that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs.
I wonder if it is because there's a space in at least one of the folders
in the full path name? I know some programs don't like spaces (or other
weird characters) in the path. They get confused at the first one.
Linux, on the other hand, copes!
On 64 bit Windows, all 32 bit applications are installed into program
files (x86) or similar, and quite a lot of them barf at the space, and
the '(' or ')' - so Microsoft give you a folder by default that many
programs cannot actually use. Go figure.
Cheers,
Norm.
Yes my Win file only works if it's in My Files
You mention Linux Norman, do you know what the connection is if any
between Linux and Android, My Tablet display some words booting Linux
or similar when a cold boot is actioned
All the best - Bill
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Hi Dilwyn, For my part, I use QXL.WIN with nothing but a few trial files in the SFA device. I don't think you're alone in this respect. I used this extensively before I wrote the qxl.win driver, but don't use it now. Backuping up my smsq/e drive which is just one large file is so convenient. It might be an idea to write a simple conversion utility you can use to copy and change the file header, although the simple way out for users is to copy all files into a QXL.WIN before upgrading, and after the upgrade copy them into the new SFA device's folder. Well yes, that's what I thought one should do. A file conversion prog might be overkill (speaks the lazybone). Another idea for SMSQmulator, although I am a bit afraid of what Wolfgang would say for even suggesting something which would cause this much work (!), What I'd say? That you can suggest anything you want More seriously, that's not on my agenda right now. is a device which can read a Qubide format hard disk. I think some people had used flash memory cards in Qubide QL systems, as at one time there were IDE interface memory card readers. Provides a means of getting large numbers of files to the emulator from a real QL, rather than have to create dozens of QL disk images. I'm a bit daft right now, but how would that work? Use the rebel interface with a memory card and then plug that card into a PC? What would a dir from a PC find on that? One large container file? Many small files? Nothing? If, as I fear, a dir would show nothing (oerhaps because the PC thinks that the card isn't even formatted) then there practically no chance that I'd touch that. I'm not sure I could even if I wanted to - I don't think I have raw access to devices from within Java, I can only get access to files, which supposes a valid file system. So don't hold your breath... Woflgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/2013 15:02, Billy wrote: OOPS - yes apologies Wolfgang and anyone else concerned, perhaps I'm a little bit distracted by the fact I actually got something on a PC to work Oh don't waorry about that, I just wanted to make sure that people know what they get, which just isn't a QL emulator. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi, I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good There's one way to find out A priori, I can't see why this could not run on a tablet. Sor far it runs under Linux (even on a Pi), MacOS and Windows. Give it a try and tell us! Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good There's one way to find out A priori, I can't see why this could not run on a tablet. Sor far it runs under Linux (even on a Pi), MacOS and Windows. Give it a try and tell us! Wolfgang This would be of interest to me, too, as I have Android devices here which are a bit underused. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Woflgang Oops I've been typing Wolfgang in error for years it would appear... ;-) Dilwyn Jones You're 'speaking' as someone half the world thinks is Dylwin. He he, that's certainly the most common (of many) miss-spelinnggs of my name ;-) Another variant is credited to Darren Brannagh's son (himself called Dylan!) who invented this, I think just to annoy me: diliwyn Tiny (As I sometimes type by mistoke. Deviously I typed 'Tony' when I tried to type 'Tiny'. You ought to see my emails *before* I correct them!) he he! ...and some years ago I managed to get Phoebus Dokos to accept the Welsh spelling of his name as Ffibys ;-) Dulooin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Op Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:09:09 +0100 schreef Wolfgang Lenerz w...@scp-paulet-lenerz.com: Hi Dilwyn, ... is a device which can read a Qubide format hard disk. I think some people had used flash memory cards in Qubide QL systems, as at one time there were IDE interface memory card readers. Provides a means of getting large numbers of files to the emulator from a real QL, rather than have to create dozens of QL disk images. I'm a bit daft right now, but how would that work? Use the rebel interface with a memory card and then plug that card into a PC? What would a dir from a PC find on that? One large container file? Many small files? Nothing? If, as I fear, a dir would show nothing (oerhaps because the PC thinks that the card isn't even formatted) then there practically no chance that I'd touch that. I'm not sure I could even if I wanted to - I don't think I have raw access to devices from within Java, I can only get access to files, which supposes a valid file system. So don't hold your breath... I think the other way around may be easier to realise. There is already an option to access a QXL.win on a CD from a Qubide machine. (ATAPIQUB.bin, CDROM.bin from Thierry G.) Could this be used/adapted to copy from a Qubide partition to a QXL.win on a second hard drive or CF card? Wolfgang, to answer an earlier question: my Vista laptop is indeed a single core 2Ghz/32bit machine. I do think the slowness is mainly a display (I/O?) feature. Sometimes windows texts are drawn quickly and the next moment it's done line by line (e.g. filling the Sysmon window or painting the shadow) or character by character. Did you know the bottom shadow is drawn first, then the right shadow? Loading files seems fast enough, but communicating with the machine is difficult when waiting for a cursor or pointer to appear and not reacting to input most of the time. . Bob -- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.upc.nl/b.spelten/ql/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 15:19 | Jan28: Dyliwin/ Woflgang Oops I've been typing Wolfgang in error for years it would appear... ;-) Dilwyn Jones You're 'speaking' as someone half the world thinks is Dylwin. He he, that's certainly the most common (of many) miss-spelinnggs of my name ;-) Another variant is credited to Darren Brannagh's son (himself called Dylan!) who invented this, I think just to annoy me: diliwyn How old is he? Last time I saw Darren he wasn't even hitched. Time marches on - faster when you get old I find. My last firm memory of Darren was (or is it 'is'?) in Montreal watching him trying to show a *very* gay barman how to pour a pint of Guinness - S L O W L Y. He hilariously failed to impress him. Dulooin Now that is getting silly (8-)# Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Another variant is credited to Darren Brannagh's son (himself called Dylan!) who invented this, I think just to annoy me: diliwyn How old is he? Last time I saw Darren he wasn't even hitched. Time marches on - faster when you get old I find. I *think* about 10 or 11 (bearing in mind it's some time since I last saw them). I'm sure Darren still reads this list so he may well pop up to correct me! My last firm memory of Darren was (or is it 'is'?) in Montreal watching him trying to show a *very* gay barman how to pour a pint of Guinness - S L O W L Y. He hilariously failed to impress him. That sounds like Darren ;-) He firmly subscribes to the notion that Guinness doesn't travel well outside of Ireland. Like most Irishmen, he would say Guinness can only be at its best in Ireland and event hen only if properly poured and left to stand a little before drinking. When I last visited him he made sure I knew this! Dulooin Now that is getting silly (8-)# Of course, that was the point. English almost makes it a valid spelling (remember the ghoti=fish from a well known author?). Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6061 - Release Date: 01/27/13 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 15:52 | Jan28: snip Dulooin Now that is getting silly (8-)# Of course, that was the point. I know, I know, hence my smiley. English almost makes it a valid spelling (remember the ghoti=fish from a well known author?). Apparently not. It is supposed to be George Bernard Shaw (Irish appropriately!), although it does not appear in his writings. gh as in tough o as in women ti as in nation I can't imagine 'u' - y, or 'oo' to 'wy' Now Dolwon does work (8-)# Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/2013 15:35, Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 15:19 | Jan28: Dyliwin/ Woflgang Oops I've been typing Wolfgang in error for years it would appear... ;-) Dilwyn Jones You're 'speaking' as someone half the world thinks is Dylwin. He he, that's certainly the most common (of many) miss-spelinnggs of my name ;-) Another variant is credited to Darren Brannagh's son (himself called Dylan!) who invented this, I think just to annoy me: diliwyn How old is he? Last time I saw Darren he wasn't even hitched. Time marches on - faster when you get old I find. Yes but you can blame an awful lot on - age - it's my best excuse. Just realised I'm guilty of the same oops it's Woflgang as Dilwyn, so two apologies to the same man in one day (unfortunately I don't think it's a first for me) I take some comfort in that with a surname of Waugh I'm well used to variation, not sure if it's a Gaelic thing but it's mostly the English that can't pronounce it, should be as in the Scots pronunciation of Loch the CH is a soft sound made in the back of the throat. All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/13 15:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: He firmly subscribes to the notion that Guinness doesn't travel well outside of Ireland. Like most Irishmen, he would say Guinness can only be at its best in Ireland and event hen only if properly poured and left to stand a little before drinking. I tried Guinness once. That was enough. My opinion is that Guinness shouldn't be allowed to travel outside Ireland - or the brewery for that matter. In addition, it is best enjoyed by simply pouring it down the toilet and cutting out the middle man! I suspect a quick bout of running away might be advisable at this point? Cheers, Norm. PS. I have the same opinion on all beers, so don't feel victimised if you are a Guinness fan! -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/2013 14:15, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Hi, I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good There's one way to find out A priori, I can't see why this could not run on a tablet. Sor far it runs under Linux (even on a Pi), MacOS and Windows. Give it a try and tell us! Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm . Will do but perhaps not just now on my tablet as it's still a bit new, my phone runs the same version of Android so might try it on it. Cheers ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Norman Dunbar wrote, on 28/Jan/13 16:18 | Jan28: On 28/01/13 15:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: He firmly subscribes to the notion that Guinness doesn't travel well outside of Ireland. Like most Irishmen, he would say Guinness can only be at its best in Ireland and event hen only if properly poured and left to stand a little before drinking. I tried Guinness once. That was enough. My opinion is that Guinness shouldn't be allowed to travel outside Ireland - or the brewery for that matter. In addition, it is best enjoyed by simply pouring it down the toilet and cutting out the middle man! I suspect a quick bout of running away might be advisable at this point? Cheers, Norm. PS. I have the same opinion on all beers, so don't feel victimised if you are a Guinness fan! I had a single malt from Islay on New Year's Eve and it tasted like tarmac (8-)# Hrmm - how on earth can we haul this back to the QL (8-)# Tony (PS I do like whisky) -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Oh well, in for a penny ... On 28/01/13 16:16, Billy wrote: ... but it's mostly the English that can't pronounce it, but Bill, the English can't even pronounce their own language! For example, where is the R in Law and Order? (ok, I see one!) Pronounced as Lawr an Order. How about drawring and sawring as another example? There is no R in those words, so why put one in? Of course, we Jocks are prone to adding them in as well, how about There's been a mude! ;-) Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi Tony, On 28/01/13 16:21, Tony Firshman wrote: I had a single malt from Islay on New Year's Eve and it tasted like tarmac (8-)# I might agree, but I never drink the stuff. The smell puts me off. My mother is the same. My brother and father are alcoholics! My brother lives on Islay (eye-la) and works, sometimes, for one of the stills there! I think the Islay malts are pretty peaty but I've never heard them described as tarmac though. I think you might be getting whisky mixed up with John McAdam's invention! Hrmm - how on earth can we haul this back to the QL (8-)# It's too late, we can't! -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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English almost makes it a valid spelling (remember the ghoti=fish from a well known author?). Apparently not. It is supposed to be George Bernard Shaw (Irish appropriately!), although it does not appear in his writings. gh as in tough o as in women ti as in nation I can't imagine 'u' - y, or 'oo' to 'wy' Well, 'oo' as the 'w' perhaps. Don't get me started on this one!!! Must be hard for a non-Welsh speaker (although IIRC you have a Welsh parent?) to see how 'i' and 'y' sound the same in some words like my name, but not in other contexts. Y is sometimes like 'e' in 'the' (in fact Y pronounced like that is Welsh for THE). Just to confuse matters, in some parts of Wales Dilwyn is correctly spelled as Dulwyn and pronounced more or less the same. Now Dolwon does work (8-)# If you hadn't explained that, I'd have struggled to understand that one! I suppose we'll have Mr. Just Words on in a minute to set us all right as to the Onglosh language ;-) (there, more or less back on topic!) And I'll have to remember to address Bill as Bill Loch With A W... Anyway, back to my QL, which is rather ironic for me as the Welsh alphabet doesn't have a letter 'Q' :o/ Dolwon ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I tried Guinness once. That was enough. My opinion is that Guinness shouldn't be allowed to travel outside Ireland - or the brewery for that matter. I suspect that might just provoke Darren to appear! In addition, it is best enjoyed by simply pouring it down the toilet and cutting out the middle man! Reminds me of a sign on a toilet door I saw in a pub in Ireland - Beer Recycling Dept I had a single malt from Islay on New Year's Eve and it tasted like tarmac (8-)# Hrmm - how on earth can we haul this back to the QL (8-)# Tony Tasted like TreaQLe? Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Of course, we Jocks are prone to adding them in as well, how about There's been a mude! ;-) Cheers, Norm. You've been watching too much Taggarrrt on TV! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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George Gwilt wrote, on 28/Jan/13 16:27 | Jan28: On 28 Jan 2013, at 16:21, Tony Firshman wrote: I had a single malt from Islay on New Year's Eve and it tasted like tarmac (8-)# I find it better from a glass than from the road. Was it Ardbeg? I can't remember - too much wine before (8-)# I just remember the 'Islay' on the label. Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/2013 12:00, Norman Dunbar wrote:
On 28/01/13 11:14, Bryan Horstmann wrote:
Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set,
instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave
that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs.
I wonder if it is because there's a space in at least one of the
folders in the full path name? I know some programs don't like spaces
(or other weird characters) in the path. They get confused at the
first one.
Linux, on the other hand, copes!
On 64 bit Windows, all 32 bit applications are installed into program
files (x86) or similar, and quite a lot of them barf at the space,
and the '(' or ')' - so Microsoft give you a folder by default that
many programs cannot actually use. Go figure.
Cheers,
Norm.
I've mada a folder Program_files_2 in C:\ and copied them into there.
Both SMSQ and Genj run ok from there so perhaps it is a
space-in-the-filename thing.
Bryan H
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 16:29 | Jan28: Of course, we Jocks are prone to adding them in as well, how about There's been a mude! ;-) Cheers, Norm. You've been watching too much Taggarrrt on TV! (8-)# That is *exactly* who/what I was thinking of well before I got to the 'murder' line. Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 16:32 | Jan28: I tried Guinness once. That was enough. My opinion is that Guinness shouldn't be allowed to travel outside Ireland - or the brewery for that matter. I suspect that might just provoke Darren to appear! In addition, it is best enjoyed by simply pouring it down the toilet and cutting out the middle man! Reminds me of a sign on a toilet door I saw in a pub in Ireland - Beer Recycling Dept ... or the sign All beer is passed by the Management. I had a single malt from Islay on New Year's Eve and it tasted like tarmac (8-)# Hrmm - how on earth can we haul this back to the QL (8-)# Tony Tasted like TreaQLe? GroaQLn Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 16:27 | Jan28: snip Must be hard for a non-Welsh speaker (although IIRC you have a Welsh parent?) Mum. She learned English only at primary school. I know very very little as Welsh was not spoken to us at home at all. Language dies in one generation so easily. snip Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/13 16:29, Dilwyn Jones wrote: You've been watching too much Taggarrrt on TV! Lord of the Rings actually, Scottish version: There's been a murrrderr in Morrrdorrr! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 28/01/2013 16:44, Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Jan/13 16:27 | Jan28: snip Must be hard for a non-Welsh speaker (although IIRC you have a Welsh parent?) Mum. She learned English only at primary school. I know very very little as Welsh was not spoken to us at home at all. Language dies in one generation so easily. snip Tony but not to worry bro, the next generation invent a new one - init (;-) all the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Am 28.01.2013 um 15:08 schrieb Billy: You mention Linux Norman, do you know what the connection is if any between Linux and Android, My Tablet display some words booting Linux or similar when a cold boot is actioned Bill, I'm not Norman, but answer anyways ;) Android is, simply spoken, just a Java-based GUI shell on top of a (typically ARM-) Linux kernel. The Android GUI, however, uses entirely different graphical GUI libraries than Linux, MacOS or Windows Java. This would not be a simple port, I'm afraid. Regards, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Re: You've been watching too much Taggarrrt on TV! --- I may never have drunk whiskey/whisky but I know that as 'Taggarrrt' was playing a Glaswegian, it should be 'Tgut'! John in Wales ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain
Many a moon ago Mr. Koenig started asking me for the pertinent poo about the PM version QL I still have. I finally got it out and took a screwdriver to it to get the info he chases. Somewhere deep in the hind brain still lurks the impression that Frank Davis and I once fired it up had it working. But (Murphy's Law) after a bit of reflecting on what I saw inside this old QL has me questioning that memory. I Do recall reading that most PM version QL's had the 'dongle' to get the ROM code past the 32K memory range. This particular machine was not made for the USA market, so it has the UK connectors on the backside. The EPROMs in this unit are blue sticky labeled (ballpoint pen) QL PM and QL PM 4000, both are D27128-3's so they are 16K chips. So Am I missing some code still?? It's been at least 20+ years since it has seen daylight or had power applied to it, so, Yups, the original membrane has died. :-) Other then that as far as I know its all original. It does have the ROM port cover attached. (probably not a validation of anything) IF I am missing code, was it another 16K chip? Anyone have the code that I might not have? I do have spare rom cards for the back port. I think they are of the 16K variety. (subject to verification). That's also if this might ever be operational again. And the esoteric side note minutia datum, the 8749 has a paper label stuck on it that is hand written; IPEX 0.7 -- Paul Holmgren It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. Samuel Clemens ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] fadangles it all
After all those QL's I used to operate on, re-assembling that PM QL took 20 minutes. I KNOW I didn't forget that much. It has a paper sandwich (paper, foil, paper) under the MDV1 that has to positioned Just right or it doesn't go back together too well. It gets scrunched into only one position if I don't want to mess it up after being in one place about 28 years. -- Paul Holmgren Mine: 2 57 300-C's in Indy Hers: 05 PT GT R/T HO Stage 1 Hoosier Corps L#6 It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. Samuel Clemens ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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No answers, but that does sound very prototypey... Does it boot at all? Is it an Iss. 5 PCB? On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:33 PM, paul paulh...@ameritech.net wrote: Many a moon ago Mr. Koenig started asking me for the pertinent poo about the PM version QL I still have. I finally got it out and took a screwdriver to it to get the info he chases. Somewhere deep in the hind brain still lurks the impression that Frank Davis and I once fired it up had it working. But (Murphy's Law) after a bit of reflecting on what I saw inside this old QL has me questioning that memory. I Do recall reading that most PM version QL's had the 'dongle' to get the ROM code past the 32K memory range. This particular machine was not made for the USA market, so it has the UK connectors on the backside. The EPROMs in this unit are blue sticky labeled (ballpoint pen) QL PM and QL PM 4000, both are D27128-3's so they are 16K chips. So Am I missing some code still?? It's been at least 20+ years since it has seen daylight or had power applied to it, so, Yups, the original membrane has died. :-) Other then that as far as I know its all original. It does have the ROM port cover attached. (probably not a validation of anything) IF I am missing code, was it another 16K chip? Anyone have the code that I might not have? I do have spare rom cards for the back port. I think they are of the 16K variety. (subject to verification). That's also if this might ever be operational again. And the esoteric side note minutia datum, the 8749 has a paper label stuck on it that is hand written; IPEX 0.7 -- Paul Holmgren It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. Samuel Clemens __**_ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htmhttp://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
