Re: [Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain

2013-01-29 Thread John
On 28/01/13 21:33:39, paul wrote:
 But (Murphy's Law) after a bit of reflecting on what I saw inside
 this old QL has me questioning that memory. I Do recall reading
 that most PM version QL's had the 'dongle' to get the ROM code
 past the 32K memory range.

A while ago Rich was selling one.
http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Extremely-RARE-Early-Dongle-
Sinclair-QL-Home-Computer---BOXED-1367

The PM dongle was listed in the What else is included section

EXTREMELY RARE QL PM EPROM Chip (8000h) - this is out of a very early 
KLUDGE - unfortunately, the other two EPROMs and/or the code stored on 
them have not been found. This is the PM version of QDOS - the earliest 
release version of QDOS we know of which escaped the doors of Sinclair 
Research was the later FB EPROM, which contained at least one oddity - 
the AT command was AT column,line (instead of AT line,column) which 
forced Psion to write a boot file for their programs which would swap 
between the two variants depending on your ROM version! It shows how 
rare the FB ROM was that no-one else had to bother!

Regards
John
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-29 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
On 20 January 2013 06:41, Wolfgang Lenerz w...@scp-paulet-lenerz.comwrote:
 Hi all,
 
 SMSQmulator, the SMSQ/E machine emulator under Java is now out.
 
 You can find it at :
 
 www.wlenerz.com/SMSQmulator.
 
 (Please note that, the site running under linux, this address is case
 dependent - g!).
 
 Have fun with it.
 
 Wolfgang
I'm a bit late to join the party but I downloaded SMSQmulator (what a
name?!, see below) on day one of its public release and gave it an immediate
try on our family notebook (vintage 2006 DELL Inspiron 1300 with single core
Intel Celeron M 1500Mhz CPU running under Windows 7 32-bit and Java 6). It
ran first hand and the only troublesome points I've found are 1) that
sometimes not all key presses come through (dir win1_ can become dr wi1_)
and 2) that it eats 100% CPU on a single core even if there's only SBASIC
running and waiting for a key press (I call this idle, see below). None
the less I must say:

CONGRATULATION FOR YOUR GREAT WORK, WOLFGANG!

This will bring the QL forward!

The other day I gave it a try on my son's notebook (2011 Samsung with Intel
multi core i7-2670QM CPU running under Windows 7 64-bit and Java 6). Windows
Taskmanager shows that it generates about 13% CPU load with somehow
balancing the load between the 4 cores.

I must say that I've banned Java from my own PCs for ages but thanks to
SMSQmulator I've installed Java 6 on my workhorse (a 2007 Lenovo X61s with
dual core Intel Core2Duo L7500 1600Mhz CPU running under Windows Vista
Business 32-bit).

What followed was evening after evening playing with SMSQmulator and various
QXL.WIN files on those 3 PC's. In a nutshell: All worked as it should work.
And, the execution speed is good enough for QL related work. But I would not
really use it on vintage PCs (single cores) like our family notebook. But if
you have anything mainstream bought in the last 4 to 5 years, go for it.

What really should be improved by Wolfgang is that the CPU load of the host
system (PC) should be throttled if SMSQE is idle (scheduler running and
jobs waiting for input). Otherwise SMSQmulator is not healthy for many PCs
(stressing the CPU and its cooling installations) and making it almost
impossible to use it on the notebook's battery.

Final words: To let SMSQmulator have an impact outside the core QL community
(ql-users, QUANTA, QL Today, qlforum) I would change its name to something
not sounding like an emulator of something unknown to most people. In fact
SMSQmulator is not emulating SMSQ or the QL, it's emulating a MC68000 CPU
based computer/machine with a QL compatible graphics card and running SMSQ/E
on that virtual machine (in a virtual machine called Java). I had a
brainstorm and this came up: Qoffee (Java is also a coffee bean, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(disambiguation)), Qup (a cup of QL
coffee), Qmachine (for quick machine, a ready to go environment for quick
developments/tinkering), Qanywhere, Qware or the same four with SMSQ
(SMSQup, SMSQmachine, SMSQanywhere, SMSQware). Or what about just Q (related
to Q of the James Bond movies), Que or Q4U? Anyone?

Cheers, Urs
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Re: [Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain

2013-01-29 Thread Tony Firshman

John wrote, on 29/Jan/13 10:05 | Jan29:

On 28/01/13 21:33:39, paul wrote:

But (Murphy's Law) after a bit of reflecting on what I saw inside
this old QL has me questioning that memory. I Do recall reading
that most PM version QL's had the 'dongle' to get the ROM code
past the 32K memory range.


A while ago Rich was selling one.
http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Extremely-RARE-Early-Dongle-
Sinclair-QL-Home-Computer---BOXED-1367

The PM dongle was listed in the What else is included section

EXTREMELY RARE QL PM EPROM Chip (8000h) - this is out of a very early
KLUDGE - unfortunately, the other two EPROMs and/or the code stored on
them have not been found. This is the PM version of QDOS - the earliest
release version of QDOS we know of which escaped the doors of Sinclair
Research was the later FB EPROM, which contained at least one oddity -
the AT command was AT column,line (instead of AT line,column) which
forced Psion to write a boot file for their programs which would swap
between the two variants depending on your ROM version! It shows how
rare the FB ROM was that no-one else had to bother!

Ah yes.  I remember that boot program!  My FB with dongle arrived in 
June 84.
Ironically it was lost in the (insured) post when I sent it back to them 
for dongle removal.


Rich - clearly now you could get the '' code. I wonder whether the 
PM dongle code exists now.  There cannot have been many.



Tony


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[Ql-Users] 64 Raspberry Pi Super computer cluster

2013-01-29 Thread Neil Riley
Hi All, 

Knowing how we all love the Raspberry Pi around here, I thought you'd be 
interested this this article (and instructions) on how to 
Cluster up to 64 Raspberry Pi's together. In keeping with the retro theme, 
check out the pictures at the bottom, I love the 'racks' they've used :)

Neil


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Re: [Ql-Users] 64 Raspberry Pi Super computer cluster

2013-01-29 Thread Neil Riley
Oops, here's the Link 

http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_supercomputer_southampton.htm


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Subject: [Ql-Users] 64 Raspberry Pi Super computer cluster

Hi All, 

Knowing how we all love the Raspberry Pi around here, I thought you'd be 
interested this this article (and instructions) on how to Cluster up to 64 
Raspberry Pi's together. In keeping with the retro theme, check out the 
pictures at the bottom, I love the 'racks' they've used :)

Neil


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Re: [Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain

2013-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor

On 29/01/2013 10:49, Tony Firshman wrote:

John wrote, on 29/Jan/13 10:05 | Jan29:

On 28/01/13 21:33:39, paul wrote:

But (Murphy's Law) after a bit of reflecting on what I saw inside
this old QL has me questioning that memory. I Do recall reading
that most PM version QL's had the 'dongle' to get the ROM code
past the 32K memory range.


A while ago Rich was selling one.
http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Extremely-RARE-Early-Dongle-
Sinclair-QL-Home-Computer---BOXED-1367

The PM dongle was listed in the What else is included section

EXTREMELY RARE QL PM EPROM Chip (8000h) - this is out of a very early
KLUDGE - unfortunately, the other two EPROMs and/or the code stored on
them have not been found. This is the PM version of QDOS - the earliest
release version of QDOS we know of which escaped the doors of Sinclair
Research was the later FB EPROM, which contained at least one oddity -
the AT command was AT column,line (instead of AT line,column) which
forced Psion to write a boot file for their programs which would swap
between the two variants depending on your ROM version! It shows how
rare the FB ROM was that no-one else had to bother!

Ah yes.  I remember that boot program!  My FB with dongle arrived in 
June 84.
Ironically it was lost in the (insured) post when I sent it back to 
them for dongle removal.


Rich - clearly now you could get the '' code. I wonder whether the 
PM dongle code exists now.  There cannot have been many.



Tony


Wasn't the point that Paul Holmgren was putting back together his PM ROM 
QL - Paul - maybe you could read the code from your EPROMs and store it 
online (or forward it to me please).


Rich

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Re: [Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain

2013-01-29 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
John wrote:
 EXTREMELY RARE QL PM EPROM Chip (8000h) - this is out of a very early
 KLUDGE - unfortunately, the other two EPROMs and/or the code stored on
 them have not been found. This is the PM version of QDOS - the earliest
 release version of QDOS we know of which escaped the doors of Sinclair
 Research was the later FB EPROM, which contained at least one oddity - the
 AT command was AT column,line (instead of AT line,column) which forced
 Psion to write a boot file for their programs which would swap between the
 two variants depending on your ROM version! It shows how rare the FB ROM
 was that no-one else had to bother!

From my records PM (QDOS v1.00) came after FB (QDOS v1.01).
snip
v1.00 'FB' : Came out in April 1984. This version of the firmware had lots
of errors.
v1.01 'PM' : Faster than FB, more tolerant of the Microdrives, but it still
had lots of errors.
Both FB and PM firmware were packed with bugs and needed a 'kludge board' to
carry extra chips outside the computer.
snip

Urs

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[Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain

2013-01-29 Thread paul

On 1/29/2013 6:41 AM, ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:12:03 -0600
From: Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] help shake cobwebby loose in Yee Old Brain
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No answers, but that does sound very prototypey...

Does it boot at all? Is it an Iss. 5 PCB?

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,

coffee), Qmachine (for quick machine, a ready to go environment for quick
developments/tinkering), Qanywhere, Qware or the same four with SMSQ
(SMSQup, SMSQmachine, SMSQanywhere, SMSQware). Or what about just Q (related
to Q of the James Bond movies), Que or Q4U? Anyone?

Cheers, Urs

Is that supposed to be a ... quip ?
(groan)

Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

2013-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,




I must say that I've banned Java from my own PCs for ages but thanks to
SMSQmulator I've installed Java 6 on my workhorse (a 2007 Lenovo X61s with
dual core Intel Core2Duo L7500 1600Mhz CPU running under Windows Vista
Business 32-bit).



Any reason you didn't install java 7? Just curious



What really should be improved by Wolfgang is that the CPU load of the host
system (PC) should be throttled if SMSQE is idle (scheduler running and
jobs waiting for input).


Try increasing the cursor blink parameter in the options menu.

However, if you increase it too much you'll get dropped chars from the 
keyboard (as you may have noted).



Final words: To let SMSQmulator have an impact outside the core QL community
(ql-users, QUANTA, QL Today, qlforum) I would change its name to something
not sounding like an emulator of something unknown to most people. In fact
SMSQmulator is not emulating SMSQ or the QL,


no, it's an emulator running SMSQE - hence SMSQmulator.
You could always say that SMSQmulator is an accumulator for all that's 
good in the computing world.




I had a
brainstorm and this came up: Qoffee (Java is also a coffee bean, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(disambiguation)), Qup (a cup of QL
coffee), Qmachine (for quick machine, a ready to go environment for quick
developments/tinkering), Qanywhere, Qware or the same four with SMSQ
(SMSQup, SMSQmachine, SMSQanywhere, SMSQware). Or what about just Q (related
to Q of the James Bond movies), Que or Q4U? Anyone?



I don't know what to make of this.

Wolfgang
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