Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: important message

[Norman Dunbar]

On 7 February 2016 02:45:25 GMT+00:00, renatobariga...@tin.it wrote:
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Wolf]

Hi,


When I asked about java I am aware of 2 versions or java on RPi,

> there is the freeware java v7 which it seems you have installed
> as I have and there is oracle java v7 which I read somewhere
> handled floating point numbers better. I will try it later.

As Marcos has pointed out, it seems to be faster with the Oracle JVM 
than with openjdk.




Wolfgang even at ~2.53 bogomips it is still useful, bit like a
Goldcard running SMSQE.


That would be an acceptable speed, I think.

Thanks for mentioning this.

Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Graeme Gregory]

On Sun, 7 Feb 2016, at 03:40 PM, Wolf wrote:
> >
> > Thank you. It's in the non-free component of the Raspbian repositories.
> > I just installed it, and SMSQmulator runs remarkably faster.  I tested
> > the BogoMIPS (Raspberry Pi 2):
> >
> > SMSQmulator 7216:
> >
> >5.50, 5.57, 5.53, 5.14, 5.58...
> >
> > SMSQmulator 8216:
> >
> >5.62, 5.62, 5.56, 5.06, 5.64...
> 
> 
> I wouldn't have thought this it would make such a big difference.
> I regularly test and also run SMSQmulator under openjdk as well, and 
> their speeds are as near as makes no difference, but this is on PCs, not 
> on a raspi.
> 
openjdk/oraclejdk8 for armv7 got a new JIT written by some of the guys I
work with.

It was a substantial optimization. I do not know if it works for armv6
which is original Pi.

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] Q-Bar software

[Wolf]

Hi,

thanks, works fine under SMSQmulator.

Wolfgang



On 02/07/2016 01:33 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I've released a new freeware program called Q-Bar, which implements a taskbar 
and start menu system for SMSQ/E v3 and QDOS with pointer environment version 
2.00 or later.

Further details on my blog at https://dilwyn2.wordpress.com/

Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] Q-Bar software

[john]

On 07/02/16 00:33:09, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
I've released a new freeware program called Q-Bar, which implements a  
taskbar and start menu system for SMSQ/E v3 and QDOS with pointer  
environment version 2.00 or later.


Thank you Dilwyn. It works under uQLx :-)

Regards
John
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Wolf]

Thank you. It's in the non-free component of the Raspbian repositories.
I just installed it, and SMSQmulator runs remarkably faster.  I tested
the BogoMIPS (Raspberry Pi 2):

SMSQmulator 7216:

   5.50, 5.57, 5.53, 5.14, 5.58...

SMSQmulator 8216:

   5.62, 5.62, 5.56, 5.06, 5.64...



I wouldn't have thought this it would make such a big difference.
I regularly test and also run SMSQmulator under openjdk as well, and 
their speeds are as near as makes no difference, but this is on PCs, not 
on a raspi.


Wolfgang


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Re: [Ql-Users] Q-Bar software

[matrassyl]

Hi, to add to that works fine on SMSQmulator on RPi2 as well.

Cheers 

Duncan

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Wolf 
To: ql-users 
Sent: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:19
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Q-Bar software

Hi,

thanks, works fine under SMSQmulator.

Wolfgang



On 02/07/2016 01:33 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
> I've released a new freeware program called Q-Bar, which implements a taskbar 
> and start menu system for SMSQ/E v3 and QDOS with pointer environment version 
> 2.00 or later.
>
> Further details on my blog at https://dilwyn2.wordpress.com/
>
> Dilwyn Jones
>
>
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> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11568 - Release Date: 02/06/16
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[Ql-Users] QUANTA A. G. M.

[John Gilpin]

The 2016 QUANTA A. G. M. will be held electronically at 181, Urmston 
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Wolf]

Hi,


(...)



It was a substantial optimization. I do not know if it works for armv6
which is original Pi.


Oh yeah, doubling the speed certainly is an optimization!

Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Graeme Gregory]

On Sun, 7 Feb 2016, at 06:34 PM, Marcos Cruz wrote:
> En/Je/On 2016-02-07 16:40, Wolf escribió / skribis / wrote :
> 
> > >SMSQmulator 8216:
> > >
> > >   5.62, 5.62, 5.56, 5.06, 5.64...
> 
> > I wouldn't have thought this it would make such a big difference.
> 
> Me neither.  It seems Oracle Java 8 is 200% faster than openjdk 7 on
> Raspberry Pi.
> 
> > I regularly test and also run SMSQmulator under openjdk as well, and
> > their speeds are as near as makes no difference, but this is on PCs,
> > not on a raspi.
> 
> It seems Oracle developed a specific implementation for ARM on Raspi,
> and they did a good job.
> 
It wasn't Oracle ;-) They pulled it in from openjdk, it was done be some
ARM specialists!

Graeme

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Marcos Cruz]

En/Je/On 2016-02-07 16:40, Wolf escribió / skribis / wrote :

> >SMSQmulator 8216:
> >
> >   5.62, 5.62, 5.56, 5.06, 5.64...

> I wouldn't have thought this it would make such a big difference.

Me neither.  It seems Oracle Java 8 is 200% faster than openjdk 7 on
Raspberry Pi.

> I regularly test and also run SMSQmulator under openjdk as well, and
> their speeds are as near as makes no difference, but this is on PCs,
> not on a raspi.

It seems Oracle developed a specific implementation for ARM on Raspi,
and they did a good job.

Personally, I don't like to install propietary software on my system
without a good reason, though, but SMSQmulator seems a good one :) I
hope openjdk will catch up, or maybe other alternatives are available.

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Marcos Cruz
http://programandala.net
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