[Ql-Users] FiFi

[Wolf via Ql-Users]

Hi all,

FiFi, my formerly commercial file finder can now be downloaded from my site.

www.wlenerz.com/qlstuff

Have fun!

Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Video Card?

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Peter Graf via Ql-Users wrote:
>> Yes, this is true. That's the reason I have built a prototype of a
>> bus-snooper that mirrors the QL screen on an HDMI monitor, but... damn
>> it, now that you know I will never finish it :-)
> Believe it or not, but when I wrote my remark this noon, I was actually
> thinking "that could be something for Marcel Kilgus" now that he started
> playing with FPGA. Really.
>
> My guess is that you'd use an FPGA with >=32 KB RAM, so why bus-snooping
> and not fully replace the video area? Just to keep the original video
> output alive?

I've been thinking about this but I'm still probably not good enough
to to pull this off using pure hardware, especially as my goal was
HDMI which makes the task pretty much out of my league especially as
not every FPGA can do the necessary TDMS signals (bought a Spartan
board nonetheless if I ever wanted to try it ;) )

This was supposed to be a pure fun project for 2 or 3 evenings, so I
got a GAL and a bunch of level shifter to connect a Raspberry Pi to
the QL bus and did the rest in software. This is still not trivial as
sampling the bus in the neccesary frequency can only be achieved bare
metal, i.e. without any operating system running. But the video
processor at least handles the whole HDMI stuff, which is neat.

It almost worked before I stopped tinkering with it, it just showed
ALL memory accesses, not just the ones to the screen memory ;-) Some
problem with the address decoding in the GAL. Looked funny, but one
could see the blinking cursor etc.

Then the idea was to use an XC9572XL chip to do both level shifting
and address decoding. After that I had the idea that instead of level
shifting all the signals the CPLD could output them using a very fast
SPI line instead as this would save a lot of lines. The Raspberry
actually has a SPI slave function block, unfortunately nobody ever
used it and therefore it seems to be pretty buggy. That's when time
ran out around Christmas.

Cheers, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Video Card?

[pjwitte via Ql-Users]

I found this little snippet in my files that I thought you might enjoy :o)

Per


 Masterpiece by Miracle Systems

The long awaited GRAPHICS CARD, now titled the "Masterpiece Enhanced 
Graphics Card” will soon see the light of day. The targeted selling 
price is £50 (may change).


The small circuit board  will  replace  the 8301chip (for those who  
have been  replacing 8301's the cost of the board alone is well  
worth  being done with the 8301)) and  will cause you to remove the 
68008 if you hadn’t already done so.


There are two displays, QL mode (512 x 512) or an enhanced graphics 
mode (1024 x 512 - requiring an SVGA non-interlaced monitor). Software 
to drive the new board will reside in a new ROM to be issued for the 
Super Gold Card (required for enhanced graphics). Masterpiece will 
have 128K of video ram on board.


Those of  you  with Gold Cards will get the benefit of  replacing the 
costly 8301 chip and the ability to upgrade in the future, who knows 
maybe the Super Gold Card or maybe even the Super-Duper Gold Card (the 
last one, at present is only in our publishers mind).


What are you waiting for ?? Give yourself a Christmas present! I Call 
Miracle Systems for further information.


36

On 30/03/2018 01:28, Peter Graf via Ql-Users wrote:

Am 29.03.2018 um 22:59 schrieb Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users:

(By the way, I wish Stuart had finished his QL Graphics Card,
because all the video converters I tried with my QLs suck.)

Yes, this is true. That's the reason I have built a prototype of a
bus-snooper that mirrors the QL screen on an HDMI monitor, but... damn
it, now that you know I will never finish it :-)

Believe it or not, but when I wrote my remark this noon, I was actually
thinking "that could be something for Marcel Kilgus" now that he started
playing with FPGA. Really.

My guess is that you'd use an FPGA with >=32 KB RAM, so why bus-snooping
and not fully replace the video area? Just to keep the original video
output alive?

How would you work around the HDMI licensing costs issue?

Personally, I still prefer VGA, because I also have some older monitors
and converting VGA to HDMI can be done by small cheap dongles.

Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Peter Graf via Ql-Users wrote:
>> As far as I could gather in my limited tests, INGOT 5 never worked
>> (which includes the Tetroid) and INGOT 6 worked or at least mostly
>> worked.
> That makes me a little sceptic, because I have one labelled "INGOT 5"
> which worked (with the original driver and not fully reliable).

There are possibly other factors as well, but it doesn't really
matter. The key here is to only sample the lines at a point in time
when you know they must be valid because otherwise the QL would not
work at all.

>>> As for the daughter board, why do you want to re-design it?
>> 
>> Using the push-to-eject style daughter boards is a lot cheaper and
>> easier to do than your original design.
> The card socket I used was around 2 € the last time I looked - no idea
> why it should be hard to solder. Well, matter of taste.

That is indeed cheaper than I expected, Reichelt was at 5€ IIRC. The
whole daugther board including SD socket, voltage regulator and
resistors however costs 1,50€ when bought from a reseller in Germany
or 50ct when bought directly in China... so it's not only cheaper but
saves time in manufacturing.

>> Besides, I don't have your original designs ;)
> There is also the option to ask ;)

I'm a naturally shy guy ;-)

Cheers, Marcel

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[Ql-Users] QL Video Card?

[Peter Graf via Ql-Users]

Am 29.03.2018 um 22:59 schrieb Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users:
>> (By the way, I wish Stuart had finished his QL Graphics Card, 
>> because all the video converters I tried with my QLs suck.)
> 
> Yes, this is true. That's the reason I have built a prototype of a
> bus-snooper that mirrors the QL screen on an HDMI monitor, but... damn
> it, now that you know I will never finish it :-)

Believe it or not, but when I wrote my remark this noon, I was actually
thinking "that could be something for Marcel Kilgus" now that he started
playing with FPGA. Really.

My guess is that you'd use an FPGA with >=32 KB RAM, so why bus-snooping
and not fully replace the video area? Just to keep the original video
output alive?

How would you work around the HDMI licensing costs issue?

Personally, I still prefer VGA, because I also have some older monitors
and converting VGA to HDMI can be done by small cheap dongles.

Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Peter Graf via Ql-Users]

Am 30.03.2018 um 00:47 schrieb Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users:
> Peter Graf via Ql-Users wrote:
>> Did you test your logic changes with a non-Tetroid GC inside a QL where
>> the original logic did *not* work reliably?
>>
>> I'm asking, because IIRC you reported total failure of the original
>> logic with the Tetroid GC, while my experience was, that non-Tetroid GC
>> always basically worked, just not reliably in some QLs.
> 
> As far as I could gather in my limited tests, INGOT 5 never worked
> (which includes the Tetroid) and INGOT 6 worked or at least mostly
> worked.

That makes me a little sceptic, because I have one labelled "INGOT 5"
which worked (with the original driver and not fully reliable).

>> As for the daughter board, why do you want to re-design it?
> 
> Using the push-to-eject style daughter boards is a lot cheaper and
> easier to do than your original design. 

The card socket I used was around 2 € the last time I looked - no idea
why it should be hard to solder. Well, matter of taste.

> Besides, I don't have your original designs ;)

There is also the option to ask ;)

All the best
Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Peter Graf via Ql-Users wrote:
> Did you test your logic changes with a non-Tetroid GC inside a QL where
> the original logic did *not* work reliably?
>
> I'm asking, because IIRC you reported total failure of the original
> logic with the Tetroid GC, while my experience was, that non-Tetroid GC
> always basically worked, just not reliably in some QLs.

As far as I could gather in my limited tests, INGOT 5 never worked
(which includes the Tetroid) and INGOT 6 worked or at least mostly
worked. Difficult to tell because the software had a few remaining
issues, too, but I haven't been able to crash it or corrupt any data
for a few days so I consider it stable now.

> That would mean conclusions from Tetroid to non-Tetroid is not
> possible.

Original INGOT 5 GCs were tested and started to work, too. Not with
the latest logic that includes the SGC fix, but the GC fix alone
already worked for them and if anything the latest version should make
it even more stable.

> As for the daughter board, why do you want to re-design it?

Using the push-to-eject style daughter boards is a lot cheaper and
easier to do than your original design. Besides, I don't have your
original designs ;) Only problem is that the card cannot be centered
in the MDV drive with them, which bothers me a bit but is difficult to
change due to the positions of the screws. Also, dual-slot would be
cool.

> Will you upload your logic changes to the QL-SD section of Dilwyn's site?

Eventually, sure.

All the best, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Peter Graf via Ql-Users]

Am 29.03.2018 um 23:29 schrieb Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users:
> Speaking of only announcing stuff that basically already works, I have
> made huge progress regarding my work on QL-SD that I was going to
> write about today anyway:
> 
> https://www.kilgus.net/2018/03/29/ql-sd-news/

Must have been a lot of work. Let's hope there will be no further
issues, as there is quite a number of combinations to test. By the way,
interesting to hear that you prefer my original idea of an internal
version.

Did you test your logic changes with a non-Tetroid GC inside a QL where
the original logic did *not* work reliably?

I'm asking, because IIRC you reported total failure of the original
logic with the Tetroid GC, while my experience was, that non-Tetroid GC
always basically worked, just not reliably in some QLs. That would mean
conclusions from Tetroid to non-Tetroid is not possible.

As for the daughter board, why do you want to re-design it?

Will you upload your logic changes to the QL-SD section of Dilwyn's site?

Good luck,
Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

Awesome!You are the best!

2018-03-29 23:43 GMT+02:00 Graeme Gregory via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:

>
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, at 10:42 PM, Dave Park via Ql-Users wrote:
> > A Lattice JTAG programmer is all.
> >
> I have a couple of FTDI JTAG doodats, but no specific Lattice one.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Graeme Gregory via Ql-Users]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, at 10:42 PM, Dave Park via Ql-Users wrote:
> A Lattice JTAG programmer is all.
> 
I have a couple of FTDI JTAG doodats, but no specific Lattice one.

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Dave Park via Ql-Users]

A Lattice JTAG programmer is all.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Graeme Gregory via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, at 10:29 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:
> > Speaking of only announcing stuff that basically already works, I have
> > made huge progress regarding my work on QL-SD that I was going to
> > write about today anyway:
> >
> > https://www.kilgus.net/2018/03/29/ql-sd-news/
> >
> > Hope this is interesting to you all.
> >
> What is required to flash the CPLD (just in case I already have the
> widgets here).
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Graeme Gregory via Ql-Users]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, at 10:29 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:
> Speaking of only announcing stuff that basically already works, I have
> made huge progress regarding my work on QL-SD that I was going to
> write about today anyway:
> 
> https://www.kilgus.net/2018/03/29/ql-sd-news/
> 
> Hope this is interesting to you all.
> 
What is required to flash the CPLD (just in case I already have the widgets 
here).

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Dave Park via Ql-Users]

This is amazing work!

It also means I can stop my occasional work on my QL-SD version. I have no
desire to sell a QL-SD into a crowded marketplace.

Instead, I'd like to buy one for compatibility testing on Issue 8.

This lets me focus on other projects that I have been neglecting this last
month, due to life events.

Dave

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Speaking of only announcing stuff that basically already works, I have
> made huge progress regarding my work on QL-SD that I was going to
> write about today anyway:
>
> https://www.kilgus.net/2018/03/29/ql-sd-news/
>
> Hope this is interesting to you all.
>
> Cheers, Marcel
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[RWAP Software via Ql-Users]

That is great news Marcel :)

Rich Mellor RWAP Software www.rwapsoftware.co.uk www.sellmyretro.com

On 2018-03-29 22:29, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:

Speaking of only announcing stuff that basically already works, I have
made huge progress regarding my work on QL-SD that I was going to
write about today anyway:

https://www.kilgus.net/2018/03/29/ql-sd-news/

Hope this is interesting to you all.

Cheers, Marcel

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[Ql-Users] QL-SD news

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Speaking of only announcing stuff that basically already works, I have
made huge progress regarding my work on QL-SD that I was going to
write about today anyway:

https://www.kilgus.net/2018/03/29/ql-sd-news/

Hope this is interesting to you all.

Cheers, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Peter Graf via Ql-Users]

Am 29.03.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Darren Branagh via Ql-Users:
> Dont forget he also designed the ZX Spectrum issue 1 PCB by hand.

And approximately 16000 of these machines were produced!

Does anyone know how many GoldCards were sold?

Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

Dont forget he also designed the ZX Spectrum issue 1 PCB by hand.

Darren Branagh

Sent from My iPhone X.

On Thu 29 Mar 2018 19:10 Urs Koenig (QL) via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Dilwyn wrote:
> > I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart
> > Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
> >
> > He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> > according to his wife, Karin.
> >
> > I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and
> > family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work
> he did
> > for the QL over the years.
>
> Very sad news! He did so many great things for the QL. He was such a smart
> guy, fun to talk to. I remember well the QL shows where we've met. He and
> the miracle boys were an enrichment for the QL scene. Some pictures with
> Stuart are in this gallery_
>
> http://www.sinclairql.net/pic/Index.php?sfpg=UGVvcGxlLyoqN2Q0ZmU3M2EyYzMzOGFlYWM3MGZlODgxOGIzYmJjODE5MDBjYzdkYTg1MmI5YzYyZjJhNjZiMTg2YjQ4MzBmOA
>
> May he rest in peace. Thanks Dilwyn for letting us know.
>
> Urs
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Urs Koenig (QL) via Ql-Users]

Dilwyn wrote:
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart
> Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
> 
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
> 
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife 
> and
> family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did
> for the QL over the years.

Very sad news! He did so many great things for the QL. He was such a smart guy, 
fun to talk to. I remember well the QL shows where we've met. He and the 
miracle boys were an enrichment for the QL scene. Some pictures with Stuart are 
in this gallery_
http://www.sinclairql.net/pic/Index.php?sfpg=UGVvcGxlLyoqN2Q0ZmU3M2EyYzMzOGFlYWM3MGZlODgxOGIzYmJjODE5MDBjYzdkYTg1MmI5YzYyZjJhNjZiMTg2YjQ4MzBmOA

May he rest in peace. Thanks Dilwyn for letting us know.

Urs


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[François Van Emelen via Ql-Users]

Op 29/03/2018 om 11:40 schreef Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users:

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Very sad news.

Blessings.
François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

And "piece"was deliberate, an old in joke.

Darren.


On Thu 29 Mar 2018 15:45 Darren Branagh,  wrote:

> Very sad. Although we'd lost touch, he was a great mate back in the day.
> Stayed in my house for the QL shows here.
>
> His devices made the QL useablecan you really imagine life without a
> trump, gold, or super gold card?
>
> Rest in piece old friend.
>
> Darren Branagh
>
> Sent from My iPhone X.
>
> On Thu 29 Mar 2018 10:42 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users, <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
>> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
>> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>>
>> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
>> according to his wife, Karin.
>>
>> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
>> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
>> work he did for the QL over the years.
>>
>> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

Very sad. Although we'd lost touch, he was a great mate back in the day.
Stayed in my house for the QL shows here.

His devices made the QL useablecan you really imagine life without a
trump, gold, or super gold card?

Rest in piece old friend.

Darren Branagh

Sent from My iPhone X.

On Thu 29 Mar 2018 10:42 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
> work he did for the QL over the years.
>
> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[pgraf--- via Ql-Users]

On 29 Mar 2018 at 14:19, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:

> > I remember how proud I felt when Stuart Honeyball lent me an ear
> > about the 68020 processor, while I was still a QL nodbody. At that 
> > time, he was reluctant about an upgrade to the GoldCard, because 
> > (coming from the 68000 and the QXL's 68040) Stuart was not aware the 
> > 68020 had dynamic databus sizing. I talked with him about my working 
> > '020 wirewrap board, and how I patched QDOS so most of it worked 
> > with the '020. In the end, I could convince him, and it felt like I 
> > had given the SuperGoldCard a kick-off :)
> 
> Interesting story. I'm still a huge fan of the SGC, but could never
> afford it at the time.

I had the luck to buy my SGC after the price fell, but before it 
became interesting for collectors. I find the SGC a masterpiece, the 
best thing that ever plugged into an original QL mainboard!

I still have the mentioned wirewrap 68020 board. In it's first 
revision, it worked even before I got hands on the GoldCard. It was 
plugged into the QL's 68008 socket via IDC cable. Lacking own RAM, 
speed came only from cache, higher clock and faster CPU. Of course, 
GoldCard was faster, which made me start to to add RAM. That 
revision was never finished, because the SGC came, and later on 
rumors of Goldfire made me think of 68040 upward ;-)

> > That's what inspired me, and what I later did my own way, with the
> > Q40, Q60 and Q68. Now I somehow feel like "the only one left". 
> > Stuart was no longer active... but still...
> 
> Well, there's Nasta, I've got the impression he knows the QL better
> than its original designers, though he seems to be impaired by his own
> perfectionism.

Also let's not forget that living in Eastern or Western Europe made 
a big difference at the time Nasta announced his GoldFire. 

But mentioning "announced designs" versus "materialized designs" 
takes my thoughts right back to Stuart Honeyball. 

I remember a funny moment, when there was chat about the QL Graphics 
Card that Stuart had announced, but kept delaying. Someone said, 
right in his presence: "Was there ever an *announced* design of 
Stuart which *materialized*?" Stuart grew very silent...

I don't know about Stuart Honeyball's early hardware, but indeed it 
seems that he hardly talked about his large projects until they were 
practically finished.

(By the way, I wish Stuart had finished his QL Graphics Card, 
because all the video converters I tried with my QLs suck.)

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users]

Oh my.

What a sad day.

Stuart will be missed and remembered.

My deepest sympathy to his family.

Wolfgang

On 29/03/2018 11:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

pgraf--- via Ql-Users wrote:
> When I read the subject "Stuart Honeyball" I somehow expected he'd
> attend a QL meeting, publish his memoirs, or anything, but not that.

Yes, that would have been preferable.

> I remember how proud I felt when Stuart Honeyball lent me an ear
> about the 68020 processor, while I was still a QL nodbody. At that 
> time, he was reluctant about an upgrade to the GoldCard, because 
> (coming from the 68000 and the QXL's 68040) Stuart was not aware the 
> 68020 had dynamic databus sizing. I talked with him about my working 
> '020 wirewrap board, and how I patched QDOS so most of it worked 
> with the '020. In the end, I could convince him, and it felt like I 
> had given the SuperGoldCard a kick-off :)

Interesting story. I'm still a huge fan of the SGC, but could never
afford it at the time.

> That's what inspired me, and what I later did my own way, with the
> Q40, Q60 and Q68. Now I somehow feel like "the only one left". 
> Stuart was no longer active... but still...

Well, there's Nasta, I've got the impression he knows the QL better
than its original designers, though he seems to be impaired by his own
perfectionism.

> Having good hardware ideas is one thing. Actually finishing a 
> computer, so people can buy it, is a different thing.

True dat.

Marcel


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[pgraf--- via Ql-Users]

On 29 Mar 2018 at 10:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:

> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the
> death of Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

When I read the subject "Stuart Honeyball" I somehow expected he'd 
attend a QL meeting, publish his memoirs, or anything, but not that.

Every loss of a QL legend is tragic, but this one hurts me deeply. 
It was always the hardware that attracted me to the QL, and before I 
could afford my own printed circuit boards, Stuart Honeyball was 
like a hero for me. To own a legendary GoldCard was almost more 
desirable than the QL itself.

I remember how proud I felt when Stuart Honeyball lent me an ear 
about the 68020 processor, while I was still a QL nodbody. At that 
time, he was reluctant about an upgrade to the GoldCard, because 
(coming from the 68000 and the QXL's 68040) Stuart was not aware the 
68020 had dynamic databus sizing. I talked with him about my working 
'020 wirewrap board, and how I patched QDOS so most of it worked 
with the '020. In the end, I could convince him, and it felt like I 
had given the SuperGoldCard a kick-off :)

In my QL times, Stuart Honeyball was the only person who brought QL 
systems which contained the "heart" of a computer, the 
microprocessor and its surroundings. The GC, SGC and QXL were not 
just peripherals. They were computers, except graphics.

That's what inspired me, and what I later did my own way, with the 
Q40, Q60 and Q68. Now I somehow feel like "the only one left". 
Stuart was no longer active... but still...

Having good hardware ideas is one thing. Actually finishing a 
computer, so people can buy it, is a different thing. Especially as 
a single person in the small QL scene. Stuart Honeyball did both. He 
did it great. We will always remember him!

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Rich Mellor via Ql-Users]

-Original Message-
From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dilwyn 
Jones via Ql-Users
Sent: 29 March 2018 10:40
To: QL Users List
Cc: Dilwyn Jones
Subject: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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A really sad bit of news.

In recognition of Stuart's contribution to the community, I have been 
using a Trump Card and Miracle Centronics adaptor today to do some more 
testing of my Retro-Printer


--
Rich Mellor
RWAP Services
Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services

www.rwapservices.co.uk

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

a very sad news :-°°°(

2018-03-29 13:33 GMT+02:00 Richard Howe via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:

> I am sorry to hear of this.
>
> A lifetime of real achievements for the QL world.
>
> Blessings.
>
> Kind regards
> Richard Howe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of
> Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
> Sent: 29 March 2018 10:40
> To: QL Users List
> Cc: Dilwyn Jones
> Subject: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball
>
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
> work he did for the QL over the years.
>
> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Richard Howe via Ql-Users]

I am sorry to hear of this.

A lifetime of real achievements for the QL world.

Blessings.

Kind regards
Richard Howe

-Original Message-
From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dilwyn 
Jones via Ql-Users
Sent: 29 March 2018 10:40
To: QL Users List
Cc: Dilwyn Jones
Subject: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users]

On 29 March 2018 at 11:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
> work he did for the QL over the years.
>

Very sad news :(

He and his colleagues came to Eindhoven many times, sometimes even on
folding bikes backpacked full of Gold Cards.

My condolences to his family, the QL community will remember him as the
Miracle guy who gave the QL a second life...

Jan.

-- 
*Jan Bredenbeek* | Hilversum, NL | j...@bredenbeek.net
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death
> of Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of
> cancer, according to his wife, Karin.

Oh my! He wasn't that old, was he?

One more true hero of the QL world gone, my condolences :-(

Marcel

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[Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users]

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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