Re: [Ql-Users] Csize in Easyptr/Easymenu
Good point! Well made! Wish I'd thought of that! Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Csize in Easyptr/Easymenu Date: Tue, Dec 17, 2013 21:12 Hi, Wouldn't it be better to do the link only each time the wdw is moved or resized ? Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles?
I dif, honest! It's just that my Tk2 manual is the original as supplied with Trump Card and I can't read the tiny print any more. Heading for Dilwyns web site soon Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles? Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 23:37 Norman Dunbar wrote: If I open #3,some_file and ex #3 to test_bin, I do get a channel Id on the stack (and a word count of 1) but if I run it again, the channel Id on the stack is different. I would have thought that the [qdosmsq] channel id for SuperBasic channel #3 would remain constant, especially as I never closed the channel between executions. The TK2 manual says If the parameters of EX start with '#channel TO', then the corresponding SuperBASIC channel will be closed (if it was already open) and a new channel opened as a pipe to the first program. Morale of the story: I should have looked at the documentation first ;-) Well, at least I had! ;-) Not this time ;) Cheers, Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles?
Gottit! :-) I knew I read it somewhere, and that somewhere was the Tk2 manual. If there is only one channel on a job's stack then it is open for read/write unless it is a pipe. In which case the direction is as per the pipe. If there a more channels on the stack, the the first is standard input, the last is standard output, everything in between is overwrite. Input is read only, output is write only - I think, the manual doesn't say. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles?
Hi Marcel, Oh well, wrong again, story of my life! I knew about the stack format with the word telling how many channels and the word for the parameter string length, but not the two pipes. Nowhere I know has any docs on these mysterious pipes. Running Qpac2's jobs utility and picking my dummy job does indeed show that it has two pipes open. I think if I pass a channel to the job as well, ex #3 to test_bin. I het another 2 pies listed. I need to look further. Thanks again. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles? Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 09:46 Norman Dunbar wrote: In my code size 30 example, I get 42 which is an extra 12 as well. What's so special about 12 I wonder? insert delay while I rummage in the source code Right, it must be something in the allocation of memory. I found the code that creates a job and it simply allocates memory for #jcb_end+d2+d3 and jcb_end is $68. This is what it requests of the memory allocation code - so whatever is being allocated must be coming from that. Wrong. As I wrote, the caller of sms.crjb must be the culprit. You wrote you used EX to call the job, so we now look at that: win1_sbsext_ext_exsbas_bas prog_create move.l a0,a4 save channel id move.l job_id(sp),d1 owned by 0 or previous job move.l d7,d3 number of files addq.l #3,d3 plus two pipes (and two counts) lsl.l #2,d3 *4 add.l d5,d3 plus string length add.l d0,d3 plus data space required moveq #sms.crjb,d0create job trap#1 EX adds 12 bytes for two pipes (and two counts). Reading the source the counts seem to refer to two words counting the number of channels and the bytes of the command string (EX test_exe;'command string'). Now that we have found this out the next thought must be wow, this standard must surely be documented somewhere, and lo and behold, it is (QDOS/SMS reference manual, section 3): (A6,A5)| Command string length(word) + bytes | | | | Channel ID long | | Channel ID long | | | | | | Channel ID long | | | (A7) | Number of Channel IDs word| | | (A6,A4)| Data area | | | | Code area | | | | Job name length(word) + bytes | | | | $4AFB word| | | (A6) | JMP.L JOB_START | Morale of the story: I should have looked at the documentation first ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles?
Sorry about possible format problems, I'm on my phone. Hi Marcel, My file size is 30 bytes. I checked. Default data space from GWASL is 4000 bytes. I expected that to end up as 4030 or possibly rounded to the nearest 8 or 16 which would be 4032. Hence my confusion as 4042 is not divisible by 8 or 16. Cheers, Norm. Ps. Yes it's 5 mins for someone who knows their way around the source ;-) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles?
A4 is $1e. I execute the job simply as ex test_bin. JMON picks it up at startup. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today + DVD
And, soon to be available as a PDF book! Once I sort out a couple of formatting problems! Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Today + DVD Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 14:07 Hi Norm, indeed - and I also know a source where to find a tutorial in many parts well written, well explained and with discussions too :-) Cheers Jochen nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk schrieb: Jochen, On the matter of assembly learning, I know a good mailing list ... ;-) Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today + DVD
Jochen, On the matter of assembly learning, I know a good mailing list ... ;-) Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Q68
Morning all, Have you (all) considered a Kickstarter campaign to finance these boards? It has worked for other stuff plus, if you don't raise all the required finance, nobody has to pay anything. All the backers will pay when you reach the target. Just a thought. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 3.40 Beta 3
Evening Bryan, I would advise Mint Linux for a personal use, and for industrial use, I'd advise Red Hat Enterprise. If you don't want to pay up for RHEL, then use the identical Centos or Scientific Linux. I use the latter for server use. I use Mint Linux for personal use. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Email advice needed
Hi Geoff, Thunderbird I'd probably what you need. The address book lives on your desktop PC and not in the cloud. Pop3 and IMAPP can be set up depending on what your ISP has given you. There are versions for Linux, Windows and I think, Mac. I use Linux version, and have done - happily - for years. I have not tried any others as I am perfectly happy with Thunderbird. I have about 5 different accounts set up using it. HTH Cheers, Norm.. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] P stuck in a loop - QPC2
I used to get something similar on linux with pre version 1.0. Of wine. Not seen it since though. Plus, it was any key not just the p. Sorry, not helpful. :-( Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] P stuck in a loop - QPC2 Date: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 16:13 This is rather an odd thing which I have never come across before QPC2 is acting as though the p key was pressed down - even though I can use the same PC to happily type this email. I can even use the mouse pointer to select the QPAC2 button menu and launch QD - but it just fills with 1000s of p characters. Never come across this before - there seems no way out of it unfortunately which is a shame as I was in the middle of programming! Marcel - Any ideas what would have caused this - this is QPC2 v3.33 running on Windows 7 64 bit -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Qdosmsq.dunbar-it under attack
Sorry to reply to a different thread but I am working away and only have my tablet for internet, plus only 30 mins wifi per day! MY WEBSITE IS UNDER ATTACK and the bar stewards are chewing through my bandwidth allowance like nobody's business. Can I ask you to stay away until I get a chance to sort it. Support have been informed and are investigating. Ta. Cheers, Norm -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I hope we can see someone set up a QL magazine electronically, somehow, somewhere. It would be much cheaper than a paper magazine of course, and if published as a PDF just about anyone with access to a modern computer would be able to read it. Take a look at TheMagPi.com ( I think, off the top of my head). It's a free magazine for Raspberry Pi users which can be read online or downloaded as a pdf. It is produced using the Scribus publishing package which is available for free, form Linux, Windows and Mac (as far as I know). Text can be imported from plain files, html, Libre/Open Office and so on. Word docs? I'm not sure. Definitely not Quill! If anyone remembers a while back when there was a discussion about producing an electronic version of QL Today, I mentioned it as a possible system. However, Jochen had spent a lot of time and effort in learning the system he used, and didn't want to learn a new system. It's still a possibility. I have my own plans, to finish my articles, or get them to a finished state anyway, and then publish the entire series as a single PDF. You'd be surprised at how small it is! I'm assuming that doing so won't breach any copyright etc of course? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QLay Linux
Hi Tim, I see what you mean, I understood the problem to be that qlay was running. My mistake. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator
Hi John, John j...@sinoda.demon.co.uk wrote: I followed your instructions and overclocked the device to 950 MHz (Turbo caused a black screen but did not seem to damage the file system). It is a corruption that appears intermittently on some Rpis, but not all, when running at 1000 speed. As you got the black screen, you never managed to run at 1000, so you are safe. This changed the boot up time to 4.5 minutes from just over 6 minutes. I make that 25% faster. A bonus! Sadly it is still at 100 CPU all the time. Yes, Java can have this effect even on high end computers. The RPi is very much low spec. Another change you can do, is sudo raspi-config and see what memory split you are using. Giving too much to the GPU can slow down normal less graphical processing. I have mine at 32Mb for the GPU and the rest for the CPU. But I am not sure of the best settings for this emulator. If I run another graphical java app such as gnubridge it uses 100% CPU for about five seconds as it draws to the screen but then the CPU percentage falls to almost nothing. I wonder if the emulator is doing an awful lot of thinking in the background? After all, QDOS was flashing cursors, running interrupt code, flushing slave blocks etc. Equally, I bet there is a huge amount of work being done under the covers by the emulated MC680xx processor. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql emulation on Raspberrypi
Hi Derek, In a word, yes! I was thinking along the same lines myself! Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Derek Stewart de...@q40.de To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Ql emulation on Raspberrypi Date: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 17:54 I was looking at the Python 3.3.0 sourceswith a view to porting to the QL with C68. Do you think this would be a good idea. Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] R-pi
Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote: Hello All, I've loaded an SD card with the Raspian-wheezy recommended and it just goes onto a 2G with 20M to spare. All that just to host a tiny QL emulator. 'Twould be nice if the ARM could emulate the 68000 and we could go straight on. There are minimal distros I understand, and I would like one to use solely for the QL emulator. Will have to get a bigger SD if I come to do anything more adventurous. Will the Ql emulator fit in the spare 20M? Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Bryan. Apologies for the top posting, I'm on my Tab so it only does top! Anyway, your card has most likely been filled up. I shouldn't imagine that the uqlx emulator will fill up the remaining space, but I use a 4g card minimum. You might run out of space if you ever update the operating system though, but having said that, some recent updates have reduced the space required. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] R-pi
Hmmm. It seems that I type my reply on top, but it actually posts on the bottom! Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Arnold, Linux is case sensitive. If you created a folder called QPC in your home folder then try wine ~/QPC/qpc2.exe Which assumes that the above is the correct spelling. You can check in your file manager for the correct folder and filenames, or: cd ~ ls If QPC shows up: ls QPC where ls in the above is a lower case ell and an ess. You should now have the full path to the exe file, so, substitute as appropriate into the wine command above. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Arnold, On mine, under menu button, system, terminal. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux
Sorry, accessories, then terminal. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] qpc2/linux Date: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 23:09 Arnold, On mine, under menu button, system, terminal. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] in a PiQL so to speak (pun intended)
Lee, Uqlx - not yet. I'm away with work and my Pi has been delivered. Home next week. Wine - isn't an emulator, so compiling on ARM won't make it work. (I don't think.) Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today arrived today
Mine arrived in Leeds this morning. Not read it yet though. Cheers, Norm. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Today arrived today Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 17:23 Hi Thorsten, wow, that was very speed again. Sent the issues in two blocks, some on Monday, some on Tuesday. Yes, we liked this issue too ... and it was pleasure to make as we had material rather early. Thanks to all the contributors and readers too... and hopefully, we'll get the next issue ready for Vienna :-) Best regardsJochen thorsten herbert schrieb: Hi all, just got my issue of QL Today this morning. Great issue with plenty of 42 pages !! Thanks to all involved .. Best, Th ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Bryan, the eBay person was a scam and has been shut down. He or she never had any to sell and the image was a pre-production alpha model. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QaLendar 2012
Evening Dilwyn, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: This proved to be a harder nut to crack than I thought. All my efforts so far have yielded similar results. I don't have Open Office installed, but whatever I do with M$ Works causes the same scrambled layout. I'm wondering if it is the docx extension/format that is causing you grief. Does your version of Office allow you to save files as old-style doc? If it's any consolation, I had to use Office 2003 at work until recently and even with the docx reader attachment, docx files sometimes - but not always - had problems on opening. So, it's not just Open/Libre Office that has problems. Just a thought. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
