Re: [Ql-Users] QL on 2 monitors

2010-11-28 Thread gdgqler

On 28 Nov 2010, at 12:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

 Does anyone know if any (or all!) of the QL emulators can work on the second 
 screen of a two-monitor PC setup? My PC can only handle a single monitor, so 
 although I have QPC, QemuLator and QL2K on this PC, I can't test them.

I had to set my laptop to operate two monitors to give talks. The set up is 
either two screens holding different parts of the whole, so that, by dragging a 
window to the edge of one screen it appeared in the other or It is  possible 
(with windowsxP) to have the same information displayed on both monitors. 

For the talk, of course, I arranged to have the same information on both  one 
monitor being, in fact, the projector.

I can confirm that QPC2 operated on both monitors, whatever the set up.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL on 2 monitors

2010-11-28 Thread Tobias Fröschle

Am 28.11.2010 13:37, schrieb Dilwyn Jones:
Does anyone know if any (or all!) of the QL emulators can work on the 
second screen of a two-monitor PC setup? My PC can only handle a 
single monitor, so although I have QPC, QemuLator and QL2K on this PC, 
I can't test them.


I think that what you have to do is drag the application to the edge 
of the screen when 2 monitors/2 desktops/wide desktop are in use and 
they will 'snap' onto the second screen, though it's a long time since 
I used a 2 screen setup.


It's a Quanta helpline request from a member who says this would 
influence his choice of which QL emulator he uses on his Windows PC. 
He said it'd be handy to leave all his PC applications running on one 
monitor and the QL by itself on the other, don't know why (unless he 
just doesn't want to get caught using a QL at work by being able to 
turn off monitor 2 if his boss approaches or something!!!)


Dilwyn Jones

Dilwyn,
I have a Vista dual screen setup at my office and at least QPC2 works 
perfectly with it. And yes, you simply drag the QL window to the monitor 
of choice. This obviously doesn't work in full-screen mode, but 
full-screen doesn't work well on modern LCD screens anyhow because they 
don't scale well. If I remember right, QPC2 uses the main monitor in 
full-screen mode.
No idea how the other emulators cope, however -  if they use a windowed 
mode, I see no reson why it shouldn't work as well.


Tobias

And, no, I don't use it to hide my QPC windows ;-). Dual screen is just 
a charm to work with when you're doing several things in parallel, like 
preparing graphics using windows that you want to use on the QL side.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL on 2 monitors

2010-11-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones



Dilwyn,
I have a Vista dual screen setup at my office and at least QPC2 
works perfectly with it. And yes, you simply drag the QL window to 
the monitor of choice. This obviously doesn't work in full-screen 
mode, but full-screen doesn't work well on modern LCD screens anyhow 
because they don't scale well.
I have that problem using the Aurora in some resolutions with an LCD 
screen. Looks worst with text, because individual horizontal lines get 
repeated and makes text look really bad. Guess it's even worse for Q40 
users with the 2:1 1024x512 pixel modes. At least some Aurora modes 
look not too bad on a 14 inch non-widescreen monitor I use with the 
Aurora. You do have to choose the right modes to suit the monitor, 
though, or it looks awful.


If I remember right, QPC2 uses the main monitor in full-screen 
mode.
No idea how the other emulators cope, however -  if they use a 
windowed mode, I see no reson why it shouldn't work as well.


Tobias


Thank you both (George and Tobias) for your replies. I knew QPC2 
could, because when I had my eeePC notebook (which is now living in 
West Ireland last I heard of it!) I was able to use QPC2 on either 
screen with that, although I couldn't remember how to go about it. I 
was using it when my son and I made the 25th anniversary QL 
presentation for Quanta. Annoyingly, the Powerpoint viewer I used for 
running that demo would only run on the first screen, so I had to have 
QPC2 on the second monitor at the time.


But I don't remember using QL2K or Q-emuLator like that. They can both 
run in windowed modes, so I guess SHOULD work (if anyone can confirm 
that?)


And, no, I don't use it to hide my QPC windows ;-). Dual screen is 
just a charm to work with when you're doing several things in 
parallel, like preparing graphics using windows that you want to use 
on the QL side.
Yes, of course - I must investigate whether my current laptop can 
handle 2 monitors, as I know the graphics card on this PC has only one 
video output. The eeePC could use its own screen as monitor one and an 
external monitor could be (1) in place of the internal screen 
(internal screen disabled), (2) duplicate the internal screen, or (3) 
be an external second screen which was not the same as what was 
displayed on the inbuilt monitor. Actually, (3) sort of worked in 
reverse for me on the eeePC, because it was possible to do more 
intricate work on the larger external monitor and leave things like 
Outlook running on the smaller screen, which was good enough to see 
when email arrived and so on. I remember the 14 inch monitor being 
stood behind the eeePC on top of a pile of books so I could see one 
display above the other without turning my head to see what I was 
typing! I seem to remember that some apps will let you drag and drop 
from programs running on one screen to programs running on another, 
which is great.


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] QL on 2 monitors

2010-11-28 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Nov/10 12:37 | Nov28:

Does anyone know if any (or all!) of the QL emulators can work on the
second screen of a two-monitor PC setup? My PC can only handle a single
monitor, so although I have QPC, QemuLator and QL2K on this PC, I can't
test them.

I think that what you have to do is drag the application to the edge of
the screen when 2 monitors/2 desktops/wide desktop are in use and they
will 'snap' onto the second screen, though it's a long time since I used
a 2 screen setup.

It's a Quanta helpline request from a member who says this would
influence his choice of which QL emulator he uses on his Windows PC. He
said it'd be handy to leave all his PC applications running on one
monitor and the QL by itself on the other, don't know why (unless he
just doesn't want to get caught using a QL at work by being able to turn
off monitor 2 if his boss approaches or something!!!)


Qemulator works fine in second screen under XP in VMware on a Macbook.

... and it does not *snap* - it can overlap both windows, as do all 
other programs.  I often use this feature to see very long lines of code 
in terminal windows which cannot line wrap.


Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL on 2 monitors

2010-11-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 28/Nov/10 12:37 | Nov28:
Does anyone know if any (or all!) of the QL emulators can work on 
the
second screen of a two-monitor PC setup? My PC can only handle a 
single
monitor, so although I have QPC, QemuLator and QL2K on this PC, I 
can't

test them.

I think that what you have to do is drag the application to the 
edge of
the screen when 2 monitors/2 desktops/wide desktop are in use and 
they
will 'snap' onto the second screen, though it's a long time since I 
used

a 2 screen setup.

It's a Quanta helpline request from a member who says this would
influence his choice of which QL emulator he uses on his Windows 
PC. He

said it'd be handy to leave all his PC applications running on one
monitor and the QL by itself on the other, don't know why (unless 
he
just doesn't want to get caught using a QL at work by being able to 
turn

off monitor 2 if his boss approaches or something!!!)

Qemulator works fine in second screen under XP in VMware on a 
Macbook.


... and it does not *snap* - it can overlap both windows, as do all 
other programs.  I often use this feature to see very long lines of 
code in terminal windows which cannot line wrap.


Tony
Ah, thanks for that. I couldn't remember whether or not things 
'snapped' from one ot the other or just moved continuously, 
overlapping both. It's so long since I last used 2 monitor systems! 
I'll pass the info on, thanks everyone.


Dilwyn Jones 




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