Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued
Hi SQLUG meets every second Sunday in the month throughout the year. As we are a small group it is occasionally moved to suit the members. Visitors are welcome but please contact George Gwilt at 0131 445 1266 first. On Friday 18 June 2010 18:32, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Hi, Following this up. It is clear that the last two on this list - 7- Surrey and 8 - Sussex - no longer operate. Can anyone confirm the operation of numbers 1, 2, and 6 on the list ? As George contributes regularly to this list, he can confirm the details for number 5. 1 - West Midlands - Meets at the Bull, 1 Price Street, Birmingham. Meet 1st and 3rd Monday of each month, members pay £1 a Meeting. 24 times a Year ? 2 - Dorset - No described location. Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated. 12 times a Year ? 3 - London - School Room, Welsh Congregational Chapel, London SE1. Meet second Sunday of each month - 10 times a Year. Now changing over to 8 times a Year in 2010. 4 - North-East Manchester - 181 Urmston Lane, Stretford, Manchester. Meet last Thursday of each month, except December. 11 times a Year. 5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home. Meet second Sunday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 6 - Solent - Botley Market Hall. Meet first Saturday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 7 - Surrey - No venue announced. Meet last Wednesday of every month, except December. 11 times a Year ? 8 - Sussex - No venue announced. No meeting place. ? times a Year. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 18 Jun 2010, at 19:32, Malcolm Cadman wrote: 5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home. Meet second Sunday of every month. 12 times a Year ? Yes George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued
In message memo.20100618202512.12...@cave612, Christopher Cave cave...@btinternet.com writes Hi Chris, Good ...Pleased to hear that you are still Meeting as a Group . :-) Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought not to be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. Yes, we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on a Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to come they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta page). Christopher Cave Original Message *From:* Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk *To:* ql-us...@q-v-d.com *Date:* Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:32:26 +0100 Hi, Following this up. It is clear that the last two on this list - 7- Surrey and 8 - Sussex - no longer operate. Can anyone confirm the operation of numbers 1, 2, and 6 on the list ? As George contributes regularly to this list, he can confirm the details for number 5. 1 - West Midlands - Meets at the Bull, 1 Price Street, Birmingham. Meet 1st and 3rd Monday of each month, members pay £1 a Meeting. 24 times a Year ? 2 - Dorset - No described location. Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated. 12 times a Year ? 3 - London - School Room, Welsh Congregational Chapel, London SE1. Meet second Sunday of each month - 10 times a Year. Now changing over to 8 times a Year in 2010. 4 - North-East Manchester - 181 Urmston Lane, Stretford, Manchester. Meet last Thursday of each month, except December. 11 times a Year. 5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home. Meet second Sunday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 6 - Solent - Botley Market Hall. Meet first Saturday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 7 - Surrey - No venue announced. Meet last Wednesday of every month, except December. 11 times a Year ? 8 - Sussex - No venue announced. No meeting place. ? times a Year. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued
Hi, Following this up. It is clear that the last two on this list - 7- Surrey and 8 - Sussex - no longer operate. Can anyone confirm the operation of numbers 1, 2, and 6 on the list ? As George contributes regularly to this list, he can confirm the details for number 5. 1 - West Midlands - Meets at the Bull, 1 Price Street, Birmingham. Meet 1st and 3rd Monday of each month, members pay £1 a Meeting. 24 times a Year ? 2 - Dorset - No described location. Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated. 12 times a Year ? 3 - London - School Room, Welsh Congregational Chapel, London SE1. Meet second Sunday of each month - 10 times a Year. Now changing over to 8 times a Year in 2010. 4 - North-East Manchester - 181 Urmston Lane, Stretford, Manchester. Meet last Thursday of each month, except December. 11 times a Year. 5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home. Meet second Sunday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 6 - Solent - Botley Market Hall. Meet first Saturday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 7 - Surrey - No venue announced. Meet last Wednesday of every month, except December. 11 times a Year ? 8 - Sussex - No venue announced. No meeting place. ? times a Year. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued
Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought not to be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. Yes, we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on a Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to come they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta page). Christopher Cave Original Message *From:* Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk *To:* ql-us...@q-v-d.com *Date:* Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:32:26 +0100 Hi, Following this up. It is clear that the last two on this list - 7- Surrey and 8 - Sussex - no longer operate. Can anyone confirm the operation of numbers 1, 2, and 6 on the list ? As George contributes regularly to this list, he can confirm the details for number 5. 1 - West Midlands - Meets at the Bull, 1 Price Street, Birmingham. Meet 1st and 3rd Monday of each month, members pay £1 a Meeting. 24 times a Year ? 2 - Dorset - No described location. Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated. 12 times a Year ? 3 - London - School Room, Welsh Congregational Chapel, London SE1. Meet second Sunday of each month - 10 times a Year. Now changing over to 8 times a Year in 2010. 4 - North-East Manchester - 181 Urmston Lane, Stretford, Manchester. Meet last Thursday of each month, except December. 11 times a Year. 5 - Scottish - George Gwilt's home. Meet second Sunday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 6 - Solent - Botley Market Hall. Meet first Saturday of every month. 12 times a Year ? 7 - Surrey - No venue announced. Meet last Wednesday of every month, except December. 11 times a Year ? 8 - Sussex - No venue announced. No meeting place. ? times a Year. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued
-- From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:32 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued 2 - Dorset - No described location. Meet on the second Sunday of every month, no cost indicated. 12 times a Year ? This is a recent change of events. Until earlier this year they met in the Merley Community Centre, but presumably this is no longer possible following the death of John Meadows. Given the small number of people living in the catchment area I think Dorset are to be congratulated for still having a sub group, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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-- From: Christopher Cave cave...@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought not to be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. Yes, we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on a Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to come they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta page). Have you considered rewording what you put in the Quanta Magazine - and on the website - to make this clearer? Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival - continued
Malcolm knows very well that I am still alive, so perhaps he ought not to be quite so definite about the alleged demise of the Surrey group. Yes, we are reduced in numbers but we do still meet about once a month on a Wednesday evening. We are coy about where since it depends on the generosity of a non-computer related club - should anyone want to come they would need to contact us via Ken Bain (see relevant Quanta page). Christopher Cave In other words, contact details correct for the Surrey group as they stand? Roy - I take it you want the Sussex group entry removed, then? I'm grateful to Malcolm for bringing this up. Can anyone else whose subgroup is listed wrongly please contact me and (despite my experiences with the international groups) I'll try to make sure the list is brought up to date in Quanta mag. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 18/06/2010 20:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Roy - I take it you want the Sussex group entry removed, then? Unless someone else has convened a group - yes. -- Roy Wood ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival
-- From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:57 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival Overall a good number of subgroups, yet two definitely meet at someone's home, and three have no location for Meetings ( although one of these claims 12 Meetings a Year ). Leaving three subgroups that have a Venue. It seems to me that Quanta needs its subgroups to be active and thriving, to feed into the main organisation. Therefore continued support is vital to survival. It is my policy not to take an active part in this group, but I am prepared to make an exception occasionally. In this case because whenever you and I have ever tried to start a discussion on this subject in the past there has been no interest. As far as I can seen the present status is as follows: There are not 8 subgroups but 6. Surrey and Sussex have been saying for about 4 years now that they have no meeting place. It is reasonable to assume that means they no longer exist. Unless, of course, that group of men under Brighton pier are not alcoholics as I had assumed, but vagrant QL-ers. I also thought that Solent and Dorset no longer existed, but earlier this year Solent gave new meeting details. It is a pity they did not tell us what their numbers are and what they get up to. At the AGM John Mason confirmed that Dorset still exists, but is getting smaller and now barely viable. Since that time we have had the sad news of John Meadow's death. You know what happens in London. I believe you are getting smaller, but you do maintain a website and some trade in second hand goods. I think it's a pity the Quanta hierarchy do not want any more shows in the hall, but the officers have certified themselves as being too decrepit and senile to manage the stairs. Scotland also maintains a website and is remarkably active for an area with so few Ql-ers, mainly because of the enthusiasm of John Sadler and George Gwilt. They gave one member good support when he had problems with one of my programs. (Apologies, Colin, I still have not solved the problem.) Birmingham meet in a local pub and rely on the fact that inner city pubs are delighted to have any customers in the evening. They are a group of about 8 elderly men who meet to talk about everything and occasionally the QL. Interestingly six of them, including the chairman, are not members of Quanta. (The chairman for reasons of principle.) Manchester is the largest of the subgroups and you have to touch your forelock when you meet them because they are also the Quanta toffs. (Quanta is shortly to be renamed the External Affairs Branch of the North East Manchester QL User Group). For a large group they are surprisingly silent about what they get up to, probably because of years of covert plotting to take over Quanta. I once tried to goad them into telling us something of what they do by suggesting on this list that they were not really QL-ers, but a secret Elvis appreciation society, but it did not work. Manchester do not have a dedicated website in spite of the fact that the Quanta toffs are always moaning about how little interest the lesser mortals on other subgroups show in having a dedicated page on the Quanta website. All very hypocritical when you consider Quanta's specialist web staff hale from Manchester, Best wishes, Geoff PS Dilwyn, please feel free to reproduce this in its entirety in the Quanta Magazine, but somehow I don't think you will want to. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival
Manchester is the largest of the subgroups and you have to touch your forelock when you meet them because they are also the Quanta toffs. (Quanta is shortly to be renamed the External Affairs Branch of the North East Manchester QL User Group). For a large group they are surprisingly silent about what they get up to, probably because of years of covert plotting to take over Quanta. I once tried to goad them into telling us something of what they do by suggesting on this list that they were not really QL-ers, but a secret Elvis appreciation society, but it did not work. ;-)) Does that make John Gilpin or Keith Dunbar Elvis reincarnated? I will wait to see what the QL Today editorial team can discover :o) Manchester do not have a dedicated website in spite of the fact that the Quanta toffs are always moaning about how little interest the lesser mortals on other subgroups show in having a dedicated page on the Quanta website. All very hypocritical when you consider Quanta's specialist web staff hale from Manchester, Best wishes, Geoff PS Dilwyn, please feel free to reproduce this in its entirety in the Quanta Magazine, but somehow I don't think you will want to. Ummm, I'll take the excuse that I am not Editor and that this doesn't come within my News Editor remit :-/ And as I (to the best of my knowledge) have never been within range of a subgroup (nearest was Cheshire) I don't feel qualified to comment too much on that unless the few QLers west of Chester would like to form one? Also, I was rather disappointed with the response I got to my international groups requests. Despite trying to contact several individuals I knew of from former groups, I never got replies from most of them. So I took that as far as I could then gave up in disappointment. I was very glad to see individuals taking the initiative with the recent shows in Switzerland and Austria, of course. No user group in those countries didn't mean nothing happening of course. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival
In message ce65970b0d324a6c93c30293dadae...@geoffbqm5ccx41, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com writes -- From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:57 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Subgroups - Survival Overall a good number of subgroups, yet two definitely meet at someone's home, and three have no location for Meetings ( although one of these claims 12 Meetings a Year ). Leaving three subgroups that have a Venue. It seems to me that Quanta needs its subgroups to be active and thriving, to feed into the main organisation. Therefore continued support is vital to survival. It is my policy not to take an active part in this group, but I am prepared to make an exception occasionally. In this case because whenever you and I have ever tried to start a discussion on this subject in the past there has been no interest. As far as I can seen the present status is as follows: There are not 8 subgroups but 6. Surrey and Sussex have been saying for about 4 years now that they have no meeting place. It is reasonable to assume that means they no longer exist. Unless, of course, that group of men under Brighton pier are not alcoholics as I had assumed, but vagrant QL-ers. I also thought that Solent and Dorset no longer existed, but earlier this year Solent gave new meeting details. It is a pity they did not tell us what their numbers are and what they get up to. At the AGM John Mason confirmed that Dorset still exists, but is getting smaller and now barely viable. Since that time we have had the sad news of John Meadow's death. You know what happens in London. I believe you are getting smaller, but you do maintain a website and some trade in second hand goods. I think it's a pity the Quanta hierarchy do not want any more shows in the hall, but the officers have certified themselves as being too decrepit and senile to manage the stairs. Scotland also maintains a website and is remarkably active for an area with so few Ql-ers, mainly because of the enthusiasm of John Sadler and George Gwilt. They gave one member good support when he had problems with one of my programs. (Apologies, Colin, I still have not solved the problem.) Birmingham meet in a local pub and rely on the fact that inner city pubs are delighted to have any customers in the evening. They are a group of about 8 elderly men who meet to talk about everything and occasionally the QL. Interestingly six of them, including the chairman, are not members of Quanta. (The chairman for reasons of principle.) Manchester is the largest of the subgroups and you have to touch your forelock when you meet them because they are also the Quanta toffs. (Quanta is shortly to be renamed the External Affairs Branch of the North East Manchester QL User Group). For a large group they are surprisingly silent about what they get up to, probably because of years of covert plotting to take over Quanta. I once tried to goad them telling us something of what they do by suggesting on this list that they were not really QL-ers, but a secret Elvis appreciation society, but it did not work. Manchester do not have a dedicated website in spite of the fact that the Quanta toffs are always moaning about how little interest the lesser mortals on other subgroups show in having a dedicated page on the Quanta website. All very hypocritical when you consider Quanta's specialist web staff hale from Manchester, Best wishes, Geoff PS Dilwyn, please feel free to reproduce this in its entirety in the Quanta Magazine, but somehow I don't think you will want to. Hi Geoff, Nice to see you involved again ... :-) It would be useful to get the status of the subgroups all up to date. Meeting at a venue is quite different from meeting in a pub - a place where on is expected to purchase drinks of an alcoholic nature ... :-) Or, from meeting at someone's home. Of course, the latter is a resort to keep things going. So, overall maybe there are just 4 active subgroups now - in the UK ? -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
