Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection
Duncan wrote: Could such a device be suitable to connect a Qx0 or an aurora or a Shermes modified base QL to a broadband router modem? Simplified answer is no. The point is not wether the device easily provides the stream data to the QL side (it does). The point is: Where runs the client, where the server? The device is meant to act as a server* (Telnet, HTTP,...). The client has to run _outside_ the QL. Most likely you want the client _inside_ the QL. Peter * There are exceptions like alerts and DHCP but at closer look they won't bring you much further. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection
. What I was envisaging was configuring Netport possibly via a PC to be a recognised connection to the internet broadband router modem, plugginig it into the QL and then looking at the non trivial task, as you point out, of writing an application to decipher the serial steam of converted TCP/IP data and send recognisable internet commands through the serial link, ie a sort of a browser, probably rather limited in functionality at first. The question here is what you get back from the device : do you get the entire TCP (stack) info back, or just the data? If the former - well, good luck If the latter, you would probably just get the HTML data back from a webpage. Perhaps you could start with the (today seriously limited) browser that came with Prowess? Or even try a pop3 account, that just send ascii data for the control codes. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection
In a message dated 11/03/2008 06:53:31 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The question here is what you get back from the device : do you get the entire TCP (stack) info back, or just the data? Hi Wolfgang, As far is I can see from the website the NetPort device is suitable for connecting to many non computer industrial devices, like vending machines instrumentation measurement devices, fire and security panels also hand held computing devices and can be set up for these devices in minutes which would suggest that it translates the TCP/IP network data into the straight forward type of serial data that these types of devices would demand. I am going to have a look at the documentation for Lynx before deciding to investigate further. One concern I have is making the netport device visible to my modem router as I am not familiar with networking concepts. Duncan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection
In a message dated 09/03/2008 09:56:22 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so if you wanted a Web page, you'd have to use your PC to translate some serial command into Get me this address from Port 80 -- the PC would also have to handle the receipt of that page transmitting it back down the to the serial side. I guess what I'm saying is, it would be non-trivial :( Hi Ade, Have had a looks at the Cyclades T-100. Looks similar to but more sophisticated than the Netport device in that Netport does not run linux or any other OS. It is configurable from a PC or via AT commands through the serial port. What I was envisaging was configuring Netport possibly via a PC to be a recognised connection to the internet broadband router modem, plugginig it into the QL and then looking at the non trivial task, as you point out, of writing an application to decipher the serial steam of converted TCP/IP data and send recognisable internet commands through the serial link, ie a sort of a browser, probably rather limited in functionality at first. Duncan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Internet connection
Duncan wrote: Does anyone have knowledge of the netport serial to ethernet connectors at : I don't have direct knowledge of this device, but of a very similar one (the Cyclades TS-100). Could such a device be suitable to connect a Qx0 or an aurora or a Shermes modified base QL to a broadband router modem? Not directly - it would have to go through another computer first. Assuming this Netport device is similar in function to the TS-100 (and, reading the blurb, it is), it effectively puts out a telnet-style stream of data on an IP address. So, you'd still need a PeeCee (or Apple, perhaps) to read the input stream, and send out commands in a more internet-friendly manner. For example, you won't have any serial-side control over what IP port the serial device sends its data out on; so if you wanted a Web page, you'd have to use your PC to translate some serial command into Get me this address from Port 80 -- the PC would also have to handle the receipt of that page transmitting it back down the to the serial side. I guess what I'm saying is, it would be non-trivial :( Now, one thing I don't know about this Netport is whether you can run your own programs on it The Cyclades TS-100 runs on a tiny version of Linux; so, in theory, you could write the serial-net translation software in C, load it into the Cyclades, and it would do the job in one box. If you could do that with the Netport, then it would be possible. HTH! Ade. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1319 - Release Date: 08/03/2008 10:14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
