Re: [ql-users] Eindhoven
In that case I will make it a point to come and annoy you ;-) hehehe Ahhh all this because you're jealous, since Darren is coming to Greece for sun 'n' fun and not you! :-) Go ahead come too :-) Not sure Patientline (my employer) will let me. They seem to be sending me everywhere but where I want to go at the moment - 4 of us being sent from N.Wales most of next week to help out in Edinburgh, we heard last thing this afternoon. Now, no objections to Scotland of course, but the short notice...we all felt like Phoebus Dokos trying to cash an Irish bank draft... :-( (Nice story about the American bank emploee though...) It's a good thing (for the cashier, as she would probably have a boot mark on her rear right now:-) that I missed it though ;-) She'd know what my peecee feels like then ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
[ql-users] serials
For those wanting to know how to use SERNET or making suitable cables for serial links, refer to QL Toady Volume 5 Issue 1 page 31 - 35. Basically, if you can get sernet working between 2 SMSQ/E computers, you're made. The one thing the articles didn't cover was the wiring for QL to Other Computers, so can anyone provide that (my QL is in the attic and my Aurora has PC style connectors so I can't help on that one. If I get time I may put the SERNET article and wiring diagrams on my website soon, especially if anyone can provide suitable pinout diagrams for QL-PC and QL-Q40/Q60 connection leads (are Q40/Q60 serial ports wired same as a PC COM port?) It has been stated here many times: handshaking must be correct for successful serial links. Short files may appear to work well at low baud rates and give the impression you've got the cable right, but as I found to my cost it don't really work for long! OK, to get this resolved, can someone check the data below and correct/fill in blanks as necessary so this data can be permanently posted somewhere to clear this up. $ UKQL DB9 DB25 SIGNALS DB25 DB9 UKQL SER1SER2 3 23 RxD-TxD 232? 2 32 TxD-RxD 323? ? 420DTR-DSR 66 ? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) 1 57 GND-GND 751 ? 66 DSR-DTR204 ? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) 4? 74 RTS-CTS 585? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) 5? 85 CTS-RTS 474? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) -- GND=ground RxD=Receive Data TxD=Transmit Data CTS=Clear To Send RTS=Request To Send? DTR=Data Terminal Ready? DSR=Data Send Ready? DB9 and DB25 respectively are 9 and 25 pin D connectors, as used on PCs for example. Some serial ports on some QL style machines (e.g. my Aurora!) were wired the same as these. If anyone can fill in the question marks above I can put a definitive list on my website to 'post it on a mountain top' as TF said! Using the above table, it would appear based on the info I have that the correct pinout for a U.K. QL SER1 to 9 pin D COM port, for example is: === UKQL9PIN 25PIN SER1 COM COM === 1 (GND)--(GND) 5 7 2 (TxD)--(RxD) 2 3 3 (RxD)--(TxD) 3 2 4 (DTR=RTS)--(CTS) 8 5 5 (CTS)--(RTS) 7 4 6 (+12V) not used === Some questions: 1) Can someone fill in the question marks? 2) Would QL SER2 be wired the same? 3) When connecting to QL does one leave unused COM port DTR and DSR on PC/whatever unconnected? $$ $ Tony Firshman wrote: The only way to get reliable serial connections to/from a standard real QL is to use a fully handshaked serial lead (CTS/RTS each end - QLs 'DTR' is an RTS). Without Hermes, it needs a terminal program at 4800bps each end, and file transfer protocol to trap the inevitable odd error.
Re: [ql-users] Looking for advice
The sequence was ZX81, Spectrum 48K, QL, Amstrad PPC640 ... the earlier ZX80 was by someone else, as were the later variations on the Spectrum. John Grant/Steve Vickers of Nine Tiles software company IIRC! -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
[ql-users] Editor 3.06k
Mark Knight has pointed out that the copy of the source files zip file for Editor 2000 v3.06k (editrsrc.zip) on the Other Software Page on my website was corrupt. The file has now been replaced - if you downloaded the sources for v3.06k in the last few days, I'm afraid you'll need to download it again, with apologies for the problems. (No copies of this version were sent out on PD library floppy disks before the change thankfully). -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Re: [ql-users] Looking for advice
In article 00a101c1d27a$7f706540$42065cc3@default, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The sequence was ZX81, Spectrum 48K, QL, Amstrad PPC640 ... the earlier ZX80 was by someone else, as were the later variations on the Spectrum. John Grant/Steve Vickers of Nine Tiles software company IIRC! Umm ... a knowledgeable man :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Looking for advice
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 at 11:25:27, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) My Sinclair addictions started before that : - I always wanted a 'Scientific' calculator - untill I found out about RPN. A fried had one back in school around 1973-74-75 ish, and when you did 0 0 divide, it started a stop watch counting upwards in seconds :o) Yeah - you are talking HP of course. I got hooked by the HP65 in 1973 or so at Ford. It was the cause of me leaving Ford in disgust but that is another story. I went to a meeting of the Cambridge University Computer Preservation Society (CUCPS) recently where I met the HP65 agian, and many other HP calculators. I will be giving a talk (with son Ben) on 30 April at Cambridge entitled The Sinclair QL: Recent Developments 1984 -- 2002 If anyone is interested, I will publish details of where etc when I have them. One advantage of joining (although I am sure they will accept guests) is a regular 'lucky dip' of donated hardware. - I wanted a 'black watch' - but never had one. - I wanted a 'matchbox radio' - never got one. - I did get a ZX-81, and it was hooked from then. I wouldn't be where I am today (ie Married and working with Oracle) without the ZX-81, so I've been at it since about 1981-82. - ZX81, much modified, upgraded to a 16K Spectrum - complete with rubber keyboard. Was I the only person who liked that keyboard ? - Spectrum, now with IF1, Cheetah memory pack, two microdrives, that speech processor, and a thermal (non-sinclair) printer, upgraded to a QL. - Which I still have to this very day - although Tony has had his hands on it a couple of times ... but way back in August 1991, with a guarantee repair a few months later (8-)# Looks like (with the exception of one membrane) it has been going well ever since. and it has had a few new membranes too. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Looking for advice
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 at 18:47:05, Duncan Neithercut wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hi TF services once made me up a serial to serial cable with one QL conector and one standard connector. I used it to transfer files from a basic QL with microdrives to an AMIGA 1200 running the QL emulator. Transfer was accomplished by using a basic program to send and receive from QL to emulator, the highest baud rate achieved was 1200 so it was slow. If you manage to get a cable I could send you the program as I think I still have it I have offered a free copy of QuaLsoft QL terminal, which will do the job with xmodem. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Looking for advice
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 at 12:06:12, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Me too :-)) I have a Sinclair TV though And one of the new X-1 FM radios he is currently selling on his website. I made a few of these from Greenweld parts. What a terrible pcb and manufacture it was, and ate very expensive flat batteries. Mind you it had a very clever auto multi standard. The beam was bent through 90 degrees causing immense distortion. He did not try seriously to correct that magnetically, but simply put a fresnel screen there to bend the image back to near normality. Very cunning. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] serials
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 at 14:36:17, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 009c01c1d27a$79f00260$42065cc3@default) OK, to get this resolved, can someone check the data below and correct/fill in blanks as necessary so this data can be permanently posted somewhere to clear this up. This is all done after 1am, just having returned from Eindhoven, so would welcome correction (even by myself when I re-awake later) DSR/DTR connections are not needed. QL ser1 is identical to ser2 other than RX/TX and CTS/DTR(RTS) swapped. This is formatted with TAB so if it appears odd in your mailers, copy and paste to a text editor. The colours are from the std QL flat cable (copied for superHermes): QL - PC serial links -- QL PC ser1ser2QL PC 25D 9D 3 2 white RX RX - 3 2 5 4 blueDTR RTS - 5 8 2 3 green TX TX - 2 3 4 5 red CTS CTS - 4 7 1 1 black GND GND -- 7 5 I think this way of laying it out says it all. $ UKQL DB9 DB25 SIGNALS DB25 DB9 UKQL SER1SER2 3 23 RxD-TxD 232? 2 32 TxD-RxD 323? ? 420DTR-DSR 66 ? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) 1 57 GND-GND 751 ? 66 DSR-DTR204 ? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) 4? 74 RTS-CTS 585? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) 5? 85 CTS-RTS 474? (QL DTR is actually an RTS) -- GND=ground RxD=Receive Data TxD=Transmit Data CTS=Clear To Send RTS=Request To Send? DTR=Data Terminal Ready? DSR=Data Send Ready? DB9 and DB25 respectively are 9 and 25 pin D connectors, as used on PCs for example. Some serial ports on some QL style machines (e.g. my Aurora!) were wired the same as these. If anyone can fill in the question marks above I can put a definitive list on my website to 'post it on a mountain top' as TF said! Using the above table, it would appear based on the info I have that the correct pinout for a U.K. QL SER1 to 9 pin D COM port, for example is: === UKQL9PIN 25PIN SER1 COM COM === 1 (GND)--(GND) 5 7 2 (TxD)--(RxD) 2 3 3 (RxD)--(TxD) 3 2 4 (DTR=RTS)--(CTS) 8 5 5 (CTS)--(RTS) 7 4 6 (+12V) not used === No - see above. You are possibly thinking QL to modem. Some questions: answered above 1) Can someone fill in the question marks? 2) Would QL SER2 be wired the same? Swap TX/RX and CTS/RTS(DTR) pairs. 3) When connecting to QL does one leave unused COM port DTR and DSR on PC/whatever unconnected? Yes. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname,demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
