RE: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
Dilwyn, I already have the original pdf file downloaded - it is 15 MB unzipped and 12 MB zipped. I can send it to you in the post if you want - I'll burn a CD and post it off ASAP - if you still want it. Let me know. Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:Norman.Dunbar;LFS.co.uk Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] Mention in PC Plus
Morning all, I'll try to combine all replies into one email - I don't want to hog the list :o) MARCEL : Wow, cool. Any chance to get a scan of your masterpiece? :-) Not much of a masterpiece I'm afraid, merely a reply to a letter written by someone who didn't quite know what he was talking about. However, I managed to squeeze in a mention of QPC (and UQLx too) just as a 'by the way' and the editor's response was - emulators, how interesting, does anyone else use an emulator and for what - write in and we may feature your stuff. I don't have the magazine any more (I'm not that vain !) but maybe someone else still has it and will scan it for you. Ah, training for the job as a technical writer for the SMSQ/E project, jolly good :-) Fraid not, I find it hard to find enough time to get articles written - I'm behind as it is, but working on my article for the next issue. I'm expecting the usual email from Dilwyn/Jochen to gee me up - don't worry gents, it's coming ! MALCOLM : Let me have the address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I ever get time I may write something for them. WOLFGANG : Well, I will,[write an article] but not living in the UK I will have little impact. I don't see why not. They publish letters from as far away as Australia. DILWYN : Aha...a possible future editor of QL Today perhaps ;-)) I think not! See above. At the moment, the need for more contributors is probably more urgent than editors! It's coming, it's coming - honest ! Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:Norman.Dunbar;LFS.co.uk Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] Toolkit keywords list
On 10 Nov 2002, at 13:05, Dilwyn Jones wrote: François Van Emelen's toolkit keywords list is now available from the QL Documentation page on my website, as a plain text file. Great Work François! (warning: about 102KB download!) (why not zip it?) The QL Net links page now includes a pointer to the World Of Spectrum pages, from where you can find copies of the QL Manual and QL Service Manual in Adobe PDF format in the Technical Docs section. By following the link from my QL Net page to Javier Guerra's Sinclair QL Spanish Resources page, you can also find a copy of the QL Service Manual in HTML format. What a service to the community! Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
Phoebus Dokos wrote: Does anyone know of a way for Q-Emulator to skip the ROM type detection? The Ultra MG roms do not start as they are 64 K instead of 48.. Is there any hidden switch somewhere? Daniele? Split it into one ROM with 48kb and one with 16kb. Then set the two files as Main ROM respectively Back ROM. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] GD2 programs.
Prowess (PROGS-not sure of how much GD2 support, perhaps Joachim can let me know) Full colour support on both QPC, QXL and Qx0
Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 at 09:47:26, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In a message dated 10/11/02 14:43:36 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dilwyn The link you are using has ual.pdf on another line on this machine and is not part of the url. If IE, depending on what version - 6? - is not configured from the Tools, Advanced menu to use the facilities you require, it may just stop. Could be ie. that script errors are disabled, so you will not see error screen, is access by web sites activated, etc, etc ?? Regards Mike I have managed to download the file, using a downloader (FlashGet) - however, the file is some 15Mb in size, therefore may cause IE to appear to crash!! I sent this to Dilwyn some time ago on CD. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 at 12:48:10, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 002601c288b9$d15dade0$73065cc3blackpc) You can compare with the original one. ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/technical-docs/QLServiceMan ual.pd f That file is 15mb long - be warned. When sending URLs it is a good idea to 'fix' it in some way - Turnpike use 'unformatted' OK the original wasn't as bad as that - it was missing only the final 'f'. Javier Guerra Sinclair QL Spanish Resources http://badared.com/QL -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Tyche ROM
Την 11/11/2002 2:24:38 ��, ο/η Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε: Hi all, I was playing with my QXL's pc today and I manage to start the Tyche ROM using Q-Lay... it crashes with the first basic command, but it's interesting... Well scrap that. It does run fully if you set the memory below 1 Meg and remove the NFA rom. I am sending a screenshot to Dilwyn so he could post them if he wants :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] list
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 at 03:43:42, Ian Pizer wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) list ql-users Send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
[ql-users] Website updates
Hi all, If anyone is trying to access one of the sites that are hosted under www.dokos-gr.net probably noticed that the links from the startup page are gone while the website is being updated. However the websites are there and fully accessible. For DJ's mirror: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~dj/ For SMS repository:URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~dj/indexsms.html For Quantum Leap Software: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~phoebus/ For RWAP Software: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~rwapsoftware/ For NESQLUG: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~nesqlug Thanks, Phoebus
[ql-users] Mouse
Hi all, I've asked about this awhile ago but lost the reply. Is there any memory position that can be read to show the mouse movement. button actions etc.? Furthermore is that position standard or does it change from platform to platform? Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] GD2 programs.
You can add PCBCAD to that list. Cheers Malcolm Dilwyn Jones wrote: I am trying to draw up a list for publication of QL programs and information files available which make use of the GD2 colour drivers. My list so far includes: PQIV (Claus Graf?) Photon (Dave Westbury) GD2 Docs files (Tony Tebby) Prowess (PROGS-not sure of how much GD2 support, perhaps Joachim can let me know) BMP2PIC (Phoebus Dokos) BMP2SCR etc (Malcolm Lear) PhotoQL (Roberto Porro) Pnm2picr (not sure who the author is) Pic2Bmp (Jerome Grimbert) Q-Colour (Wolfgang Uhlig) Skins (Wolfgang Lenerz?) Sprite Editor (Jerome Grimbert) QL3D1 (?) Any extra information or corrections to above would be greatly appreciated. Also, any programs which although not specifically designed for GD2 but which may offer greater functionality under GD2 for example. There are also some programs such as my screen snatcher which offer limited GD2 facilities, e.g. it can save SCR files but has problems with multiple section screens and PIC files. I think GD2 has been around long enough by now for us to have a serious go at documenting what's available. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
Phoebus Dokos wrote: BTW: I have now the Tyche ROM up and running :-) Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the Tyche ROM? Marcel
Re: [ql-users] GD2 programs.
??? 11/11/2002 9:15:31 ??, ?/? Joachim Van der Auwera [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Prowess (PROGS-not sure of how much GD2 support, perhaps Joachim can let me know) Full colour support on both QPC, QXL and Qx0 Except the border ;-) But yes it does... Sorry Joachim to not mention it... I have been using the GD2 version for a long time now and it works perfectly well on both QPC and QXL! Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] GD2 programs.
Dilwyn Jones wrote: I am trying to draw up a list for publication of QL programs and information files available which make use of the GD2 colour drivers. You can add: Euroconverter 1.40 (Andrea Carpi - Beginners' Club) :-) Ciao.
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
??? 11/11/2002 11:29:30 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: (for the ones that don't get that reference, Sirius Cybernetics was a company in Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy series. I somehow doubt this was ever a serious company name on earth). Maybe an Internal Joke? Who knows? Well, interesting nonetheless. What's more interesting is that this ROM is FAST! Below are the results from qsbb_bas QLAY 0.90 with 640K, no NFA ROM, 2 mdv files attached, f option set to 1, running under WinXP PRO on an AMD K7@750Mhz JS/MGG/JSU --- Printing: 18500 Functions: 30560 Strings:42140 MGUK - Printing: 18820 Functions: 30540 Strings:40980 Minerva 1.89 Printing: 18860 Functions: 34140 Strings:45960 Tyche (Ver$ reports: T05) Printing: 19060 Functions: 36740 Strings:47880 My next step would be to try it with Speedscreen... (sometime later though!) 1. That just maybe a nice hacked ROM (I have to disassemble it to know for sure) That'd be my guess. I am not so sure this was hacked, as it seems by far the fastest rom I ever saw :-) Now i need a volunteer with an Eprom Programmer to try it on the Aurora (when my SGC is back ;-) Marcel
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
??? 11/11/2002 9:25:24 ??, ?/? Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: ??? 11/11/2002 7:44:15 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Phoebus Dokos wrote: Does anyone know of a way for Q-Emulator to skip the ROM type detection? The Ultra MG roms do not start as they are 64 K instead of 48.. Is there any hidden switch somewhere? Daniele? Split it into one ROM with 48kb and one with 16kb. Then set the two files as Main ROM respectively Back ROM. Didn't work unfortunately :-( Still Unknown QDOS Type (for that and Tyche Roms) Phoebus
RE: [ql-users] Mention in PC Plus
On 11 Nov 2002, at 9:42, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning all, I'll try to combine all replies into one email - I don't want to hog the list :o) MARCEL : (...) I don't have the magazine any more (I'm not that vain !) but maybe someone else still has it and will scan it for you. Yes, I can do that (tomorrow) () Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com
[ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Hi all, While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit different types of user, and I want to create the best experience for the largest number of people possible. The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? Each has plusses and minuses. Discuss. Second, multiple mail boxes. Is the ability to send/receive from multiple mailboxes useful or not? What about profiles where one profile is accessed at a time, or is the ability to access multiple mailboxes simultaneously 'very important' to you? Finally, how important would it be to use a pointer environment, or would you be happy to use industry standard CTRL-key combinations? Thanks in advance, Dave
Re: [ql-users] QLAYW and RSXNT
Phoebus Dokos wrote: Anyone has managed to run QLAYW under WinNT or XP? No, it doesn't work. Only the DOS version works. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
??? 11/11/2002 2:11:33 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Phoebus Dokos wrote: (for the ones that don't get that reference, Sirius Cybernetics was a company in Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy series. I somehow doubt this was ever a serious company name on earth). Maybe an Internal Joke? Who knows? Yes, after having seen the startup screen it really looks like that. I got it booting up on QPC but it crashes after drawing the SuperBasic windows, I suspect it has a problem with my emulated microdrives. I remember those have often caused problems. Nonetheless very interesting. It did that to me to, until I set it up for memory below 1 Meg... It recognizes 640K with no problems... Its microdrive code must me weird though because although it reads the mdv files from QLAY, it cannot boot from them (you have to manually type lrun mdv1_boot etc...) And forget my advice for QemuLator (I thought only the 48kb limit bothered it), it still insists that it only works with known roms. Pitty really. Maybe Daniele can help... Hmmm imagine Q-Emulator emulating Thors as well (Simon will jump hoops for that ;-) The original QDOS was optimised for size, not for speed. With 16kb more to spend more speed is probably much easier to achieve. True :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] QLAYW and RSXNT
??? 11/11/2002 2:21:38 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: and on that note... anyone tried to compile it under SMSQ/E (for QL Compatibility under QPC or QXL etc...)??? Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Toolkit keywords list
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: François Van Emelen's toolkit keywords list is now available from the QL Documentation page on my website, as a plain text file. Great Work François! Indeed, I was surprised with the amount of information prepared in a short time! (warning: about 102KB download!) (why not zip it?) I'm a bit short of space on my site, but may release some of the older pictures from QL shows to allow me to offer the zipped version as well. The fact that this file is heavily tabbed seems to cause problems for some QL editors but seems to display OK in browsers, that's why I put it on as plain text (I think François must have exported it from DBAS or something) as I didn't have time to reformat it. The QL Net links page now includes a pointer to the World Of Spectrum pages, from where you can find copies of the QL Manual and QL Service Manual in Adobe PDF format in the Technical Docs section. By following the link from my QL Net page to Javier Guerra's Sinclair QL Spanish Resources page, you can also find a copy of the QL Service Manual in HTML format. What a service to the community! That site (World Of Spectrum) has an incredible amount of information for Spectrum users. I would love to set up something like it for the QL. At the moment, the QL DOcumentation CD is the best I can offer, but at some point in the future I may get more web space if ever I think I'll have the time to organise it all. Wolfgang, do you have a QL website at all? -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Mention in PC Plus
He he, the email he refers to had been sent just before I read this...Norman knows me too well! (Sorry Norman) Dilwyn Ah, training for the job as a technical writer for the SMSQ/E project, jolly good :-) Fraid not, I find it hard to find enough time to get articles written - I'm behind as it is, but working on my article for the next issue. I'm expecting the usual email from Dilwyn/Jochen to gee me up - don't worry gents, it's coming ! snip At the moment, the need for more contributors is probably more urgent than editors! It's coming, it's coming - honest !
Re: [ql-users] Tyche ROM
It might make a nice short article for QL Today actually...a brief explanation of what Tyche is, and what you need to do to get it running in QemuLator plus the screen shots. QemuLator tends to be the forgotten emulator which gets least mention, but version 2 is really worth the money you pay to register the shareware. (For anyone who hasn't heard of it Tyche is an unreleased 64K QL ROM (not completely QL compatible, probably meant for a QL successor). Dilwyn - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Tyche ROM Την 11/11/2002 2:24:38 ??, ο/η Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε: Hi all, I was playing with my QXL's pc today and I manage to start the Tyche ROM using Q-Lay... it crashes with the first basic command, but it's interesting... Well scrap that. It does run fully if you set the memory below 1 Meg and remove the NFA rom. I am sending a screenshot to Dilwyn so he could post them if he wants :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Mention in PC Plus
Darren (who's sitting here drinking tea) says... I think your wife sees enough of you already... All 25 stone!!! ;-) Steve Thank you. Tell him to get off his almost-as-big butt and write something for QL Toady! Like...a review of the London Quanta workshop between you perhaps ;-)) (please!) -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
I have managed to download the file, using a downloader (FlashGet) - however, the file is some 15Mb in size, therefore may cause IE to appear to crash!! I sent this to Dilwyn some time ago on CD. Yes, but I have thrown that CD away (after your generous assistance) and lost the copy on my hard disk in a recent post-virus reformat. However, what I forgot until after I re-downloaded it was that it was added to the QL Documentation CD before I reformatted the hard drive and I had in fact burned a copy which included it (thought it was still a job waiting to be done which for once I had done and forgotten I'd done the job!). Sometimes, some days, my brain just goes AWOL. I blame nobody but myself and my own stupidity for once in my life! At least, it helped to sort out a problem I would have had downloading PDFs because of the PDF reader problem with IE5. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the Tyche ROM? Marcel According to Dilwyn that sent that to me, the Tyche was the codename for the Super QL that was developed by Sirius Cybernetics for Sinclair (Amstrad?). Apart from the above I know little about it... Anybody with more info? It does run however and executes basic programs and its a little faster (with a small test I run) than MGx roms Was sent to me by Simon Goodwin. Don't know much more about it and have never seen it running. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Mouse
Additional info was sent to me by Duncan Neithercut some time ago, for use in a screen saver system for Launchpad, which admittedly I never finished because I got myself bogged down with what I considered more important Launchpad components: The pointer record is attached to the channel #0 driver, which can be found by: chbas=PEEK_L(svbas+120) : rem svbas is system variables base channel0driver=PEEK_L(PEEK_L(chbas)+4) and if addr=channel0driver then pointermove=PEEK_L(addr+126):REM read x and y positions ptrkey=PEEK(addr+49)+PEEK(addr+50):rem read any mouse key pressed Seems to work on all platforms tested, including with SMSQ/E, from JS QL to Aurora and Q40 according to Duncan. Wolfgang and Marcel sent me some info on what's in the PE linkage block. I no longer have the email, but do have a printout which I could scan and send to you if of interest and not in one of the archived files Marcel's kindly pointed us to. Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Mouse Phoebus Dokos wrote: I've asked about this awhile ago but lost the reply. Is there any memory position that can be read to show the mouse movement. button actions etc.? Furthermore is that position standard or does it change from platform to platform? http://www.mail-archive.com/ql-users;nvg.ntnu.no/msg03652.html http://www.mail-archive.com/ql-users;nvg.ntnu.no/msg02922.html http://www.mail-archive.com/ql-users;nvg.ntnu.no/msg02918.html and related/following. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] GD2 programs.
Thank you...I even did a news article for QLToday about this. Oops! Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Andrea Carpi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] GD2 programs. Dilwyn Jones wrote: I am trying to draw up a list for publication of QL programs and information files available which make use of the GD2 colour drivers. You can add: Euroconverter 1.40 (Andrea Carpi - Beginners' Club) :-) Ciao.
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit different types of user, and I want to create the best experience for the largest number of people possible. The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? Each has plusses and minuses. Discuss. No real strong views either way, both have their merits. Second, multiple mail boxes. Is the ability to send/receive from multiple mailboxes useful or not? What about profiles where one profile is accessed at a time, or is the ability to access multiple mailboxes simultaneously 'very important' to you? Finally, how important would it be to use a pointer environment, or would you be happy to use industry standard CTRL-key combinations? Thanks in advance, Dave With two pointer driven 'desktop' programs (one QDT for GD2/SMSQE systems the other Launchpad for more basic QDOS and SMSQE systems) and a fair bit of interest shown in those too (well, in mine anyway, won't speak for Jim Hunkins as he presumably gets private mail about his system like I do mine), I'd suggest going for pointer environment if feasible. Is Qeymail based on soql or have you got your own web access routines? -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part of ProWesS) springs to mind). Joachim
Re: [ql-users] Tyche ROM
Την 11/11/2002 2:55:26 ��, ο/η Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε: It might make a nice short article for QL Today actually...a brief explanation of what Tyche is, and what you need to do to get it running in QemuLator plus the screen shots. QemuLator tends to be the forgotten emulator which gets least mention, but version 2 is really worth the money you pay to register the shareware. (For anyone who hasn't heard of it Tyche is an unreleased 64K QL ROM (not completely QL compatible, probably meant for a QL successor). And Q-emulator can't see it... apparently there's code in the Q-emulator which allows only for known roms... Now qlay 0.90 CAN see it (See my other emails) and not only that's its extremely fast as well... Just for fun I altered the (c) notice which reads now (c) 2002 Sir Phoebus Dokos ;-) Regarding its compatibility. With the exception of Speedscreen (Kindly provided by Simon) which quasi works... everything I tried on it flies :-) The mdv code is kinda dodgy as it seems but weird things worked on it... Even ProWesS worked just fine :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
??? 11/11/2002 3:10:55 ??, ?/? Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the Tyche ROM? Marcel According to Dilwyn that sent that to me, the Tyche was the codename for the Super QL that was developed by Sirius Cybernetics for Sinclair (Amstrad?). Apart from the above I know little about it... Anybody with more info? It does run however and executes basic programs and its a little faster (with a small test I run) than MGx roms Was sent to me by Simon Goodwin. Don't know much more about it and have never seen it running. -- Dilwyn Jones Dilwyn, to make it run with QLAY your qlay.rc should look like this: -r c:\roms\tyche-tra.rom -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l win2@sub2\qlay.dir -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f 11538.46 Replace the -f with the appropriate one for your machine Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Pointer Environment is EVER better ! - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions... ??? 11/11/2002 2:33:34 ??, ?/? Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Hi all, While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit different types of user, and I want to create the best experience for the largest number of people possible. The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? One single file would simplify storage, preferably stored as a markup language text file of sorts (so it can accomodate different codepages etc..). After that you can have an export function (like Netscape or Eudora for example) to extract the specific message if the user wants. Each has plusses and minuses. Discuss. Second, multiple mail boxes. Is the ability to send/receive from multiple mailboxes useful or not? What about profiles where one profile is accessed at a time, or is the ability to access multiple mailboxes simultaneously 'very important' to you? Well that wouldn't complicate things too much would it? I mean think about it.. combined with a single storage mailbox file (well actually one for each folder per se, you only need to add an entry on which user this pertains to. Finally, how important would it be to use a pointer environment, or would you be happy to use industry standard CTRL-key combinations? Although at first it seems simpler to make a standard non-PE program, using tools like Q-Menu and EASYPTR would simplify your developing process significantly... Phoebus P.S. I have the answer to your question (the one you asked yesterday before we got on AIM... ICQ me for details...)
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part of ProWesS) springs to mind). This will be a free, open source program. If it relies on any other program, that program would also have to be free, and I would need to be able to distribute it, or offer it for download, as part of the package. I'll also be doing this co-operateively with anyone who wants to help... Dave
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part of ProWesS) springs to mind). This will be a free, open source program. If it relies on any other program, that program would also have to be free, and I would need to be able to distribute it, or offer it for download, as part of the package. I'll also be doing this co-operateively with anyone who wants to help... ProWesS is free including all libraries which are part of it (like the DATAdesign engine). There is a GUI for the DATAdeisng engine (also called DATAdesign) which is not free though. Joachim
[ql-users] New SMSQ/E reseller!
The man himself has been very low key about it, so I'll remind y'all! Phoebus Dokos is now an official SMSQ/E reseller, and I am his first customer. :) Congratulations, Phobey, and I hope you sell many tens of thousands of copies! :o) Dave
Re: [ql-users] Tyche ROM
I previously wrote: Regarding its compatibility. With the exception of Speedscreen (Kindly provided by Simon) which quasi works... everything I tried on it flies :-) The mdv code is kinda dodgy as it seems but weird things worked on it... Even ProWesS worked just fine :-) And by that I don't mean that ProWesS is weird, just that's demanding ;-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
??? 11/11/2002 4:25:07 ??, ?/? Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I'd suggest going for pointer environment if feasible. Another thing to learn ;) I'll spend the first few weeks just building the structure and getting back-room stuff working, like DNS and connecting to a mail server. Is Qeymail based on soql or have you got your own web access routines? It will be based on soql, as I'm not competent to write a TCP stack ;) There also the new stack from Peter Graf as well (see announcement in QL- developers last month) As long as it's based on the C68 BSD libraries I don't see why it wouldn't work there too :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
??? 11/11/2002 4:40:03 ??, ?/? Joachim Van der Auwera [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part of ProWesS) springs to mind). This will be a free, open source program. If it relies on any other program, that program would also have to be free, and I would need to be able to distribute it, or offer it for download, as part of the package. I'll also be doing this co-operateively with anyone who wants to help... ProWesS is free including all libraries which are part of it (like the DATAdesign engine). There is a GUI for the DATAdeisng engine (also called DATAdesign) which is not free though. Joachim In that case DATAdesign for the use you want is the best Dave! Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Website updates
In article B0VP0SPVT4Z1C9432YPJNH3ZJIFC5Y.3dcfc0e3@quantumcentral, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi all, If anyone is trying to access one of the sites that are hosted under www.dokos-gr.net probably noticed that the links from the startup page are gone while the website is being updated. However the websites are there and fully accessible. Yes, I tried it during last week, and some of the links are 'lost'. I forgot to mail you on this. Nice graphic front page, though :-) For DJ's mirror: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~dj/ For SMS repository:URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~dj/indexsms.html For Quantum Leap Software: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~phoebus/ For RWAP Software: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~rwapsoftware/ For NESQLUG: URL: http://www.dokos-gr.net/~nesqlug -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit different types of user, and I want to create the best experience for the largest number of people possible. The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? Each has plusses and minuses. Discuss. I don't know in detail what the issues are. A single file seems more likely to get corrupted / go wrong - so may lose mails. A good index is essential. Second, multiple mail boxes. Is the ability to send/receive from multiple mailboxes useful or not? What about profiles where one profile is accessed at a time, or is the ability to access multiple mailboxes simultaneously 'very important' to you? I use multiple mailboxes all the time ... so I gues I am just used to it. Finally, how important would it be to use a pointer environment, or would you be happy to use industry standard CTRL-key combinations? Must have the PE for me. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: In that case DATAdesign for the use you want is the best Dave! I plan to do developmental work in S*BASIC. I like to clearly lay out in very readable fashion how everything works, especially the transactions between servers. It'll be a simple test rig. Once the mechanics are shown to work, I may (will?) start over using PE. People are advising I use a database program, but that's the least of my worries - I'm more worried about the email editor! ;) Finally, I plan to make some of the sections portable, so later they can be used in a simple S*BASIC web server, mail SERVER, or similar. As I said previously, all this will be open source, probably under the LGPL. Basically, if you sell or give the code to someone, you have to give them the source if they ask for it. Anything else? There isn't a cut-off for suggestions, but I'd like as much in before I do fundamentals, and before it's difficult to do major restructuring. Also, a quickie, is there a QL equivalent of MD5 hashing so I can securely store passwords? Dave
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: A good index is essential. I plan to give every email a serial number. Whether a single file or one file per email, there will be an index file with serial number, filename, length, date, status, etc. I am even considering copying exactly the pine mailbox format, so mail would be portable to-from linux systems. I use multiple mailboxes all the time ... so I guess I am just used to it. I have thought of a nice, easy way to resolve that issue. Must have the PE for me. *pout* :o) Dave
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 00:20:50, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: 008801c28918$3159bbe0$0100a8c0@macnamarf6d1fc) Tony Just received this response to an email reply to yours off list. Are you playing with your settings - Original Message - From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mx00.schlund.de [212.227.126.151]: 550 Unknown local part abuseql in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the rejecter? Looks like it never even got to Demon. Do you think Demon are blacklisted? It _has_ been known. I am no expert in interpreting headers - maybe others can help. I am using forwarding - can that be the problem? 11 are the source of the domain name. I did have a problem a while back. I switched to SMTP as Demon POP3 was not working. I did not realise sendmail was loading SMTP, and then rejecting it as I hadn't configured sendmail. That is OK now. I did not reconfigure, but simply renamed 'sendmail' (8-)# I have though now switched back to POP3. You may have noticed I have recently changed my email address - this is a forwarding address of course (11). Underneath it is still Demon. However I am getting ADSL set up on my Linux box on Wednesday via another provider. Once that is working and tested I will leave Demon. As I will have fixed IP addresses, it will allow me to set up a local web server. I am looking forward to have effectively unlimited storage and scripting, for less than it currently costs for my Demon ISDN link. I have got a local net router, so all my local systems will connect via Linux using IP masquerading. No more negotiating with Ben (8-)# -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from macnamara.fsbusiness.co.uk ([62.137.153.210] helo=macnamarf6d1fc) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18B1vZ-0006U8-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:55:41 + Message-ID: 005301c28914$b55457b0$0100a8c0@macnamarf6d1fc From: Mike MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 001801c287b9$56071740$0201a8c0@badapc 008001c287fc$43e11cd0$0100a8c0@macnamarf6d1fc [EMAIL PROTECTED] 002e01c28844$ff0c6030$0100a8c0@macnamarf6d1fc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:55:54 - MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. message snipped -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 at 19:53:37, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: MGUT85JIKILHMJID775IDPN0606A096.3dceff91@quantumcentral) ??? 10/11/2002 7:20:50 ??, ?/? Mike MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Tony Just received this response to an email reply to yours off list. Are you playing with your settings Regards Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] No he's not... reply to his regular address... this is to throw off spammers... (He got me a couple of times so far ;-) --Great Spammer I thought oneandone forwarded everything to anything@firshman.co.uk. Ta for these error reports - I now realise I have to explicitly set all name@ as well. Have done this now - I do want this 'spam' but in a separate folder. As you know some spam is genuine. That is good news though, as it will reject this form of address (got from any mailing list or usenet archive: MGUT85JIKILHMJID775IDPN0606A096.3dceff91@quantumcentral -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 19:48:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 000601c289c1$aac62140$e5075cc3blackpc) I have managed to download the file, using a downloader (FlashGet) - however, the file is some 15Mb in size, therefore may cause IE to appear to crash!! I sent this to Dilwyn some time ago on CD. Yes, but I have thrown that CD away (after your generous assistance) and lost the copy on my hard disk in a recent post-virus reformat. However, what I forgot until after I re-downloaded it was that it was added to the QL Documentation CD before I reformatted the hard drive and I had in fact burned a copy which included it (thought it was still a job waiting to be done which for once I had done and forgotten I'd done the job!). Sometimes, some days, my brain just goes AWOL. he he - I could have told you _you_ made a copy, as you sent me one. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
??? 11/11/2002 3:51:42 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: You may have noticed I have recently changed my email address - this is a forwarding address of course (11). Underneath it is still Demon. However I am getting ADSL set up on my Linux box on Wednesday via another provider. Once that is working and tested I will leave Demon. As I will have fixed IP addresses, it will allow me to set up a local web server. I am looking forward to have effectively unlimited storage and scripting, for less than it currently costs for my Demon ISDN link. I have got a local net router, so all my local systems will connect via Linux using IP masquerading. No more negotiating with Ben (8-)# I would suggest you try xitami for linux as it is EXTREMELY small and portable and a dream to setup. (Not to mention that you can use ANYTHING you want for CGI etc...) If you really can't be bothered with Apache, it is extremely compact... you'll like it... it is also so easy to port that it isn't unlikely that it is portable to SMSQ/E (Even on Minerva why not?) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Tony Firshman wrote: Is this the rejecter? Looks like it never even got to Demon. The official mail server for firshman.co.uk is located at SchlundPartner, Germany. And it's that server that rejects the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address (it says that it doesn't know anybody with this mail address). I am no expert in interpreting headers - maybe others can help. I am using forwarding - can that be the problem? 11 are the source of the domain name. Yes, 11 uses the SchlundPartner facilities. Marcel
[ql-users] activity
Wow, since my recent reformat of my hard drive, I've now got 705 messages in my email system, most of them from ql-users I think and I know I've deleted quite a few as well. Of late, this list has got very busy and very interesting! -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
to make it run with QLAY your qlay.rc should look like this: -r c:\roms\tyche-tra.rom -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l win2@sub2\qlay.dir -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f 11538.46 Replace the -f with the appropriate one for your machine Phoebus Hi Phoebus, I've added this info to the QL Roms page on my website, along with a zipped copy of the Tyche ROM. At some point, I will need to write up the information Duncan and Wolfgang and Marcel sent me about the PE linkage block and mouse reading possibilities and add that as well...and add all this to the QL CD-ROMs which include all the info files...if only I could find th eoriginal files rather than having to type them in from paper! Dilwyn
Re: [ql-users] New SMSQ/E reseller!
The man himself has been very low key about it, so I'll remind y'all! Phoebus Dokos is now an official SMSQ/E reseller, and I am his first customer. :) Congratulations, Phobey, and I hope you sell many tens of thousands of copies! :o) Dave He's also an authorised seller of the Dilwyn Jones QL CD-ROMs, which should make it easier for north Americans to get hold of those CD-ROMs from him rather than struggle with dollar/Sterling/Euro conversions getting them from Darren or me. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
Thanks Phoebus, I'll see where can this best be permenently documented. E.g. where I offer the Tyche ROM and perhaps in the QL EMulators CD somewhere. Dilwyn - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2 ??? 11/11/2002 3:10:55 ??, ?/? Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the Tyche ROM? Marcel According to Dilwyn that sent that to me, the Tyche was the codename for the Super QL that was developed by Sirius Cybernetics for Sinclair (Amstrad?). Apart from the above I know little about it... Anybody with more info? It does run however and executes basic programs and its a little faster (with a small test I run) than MGx roms Was sent to me by Simon Goodwin. Don't know much more about it and have never seen it running. -- Dilwyn Jones Dilwyn, to make it run with QLAY your qlay.rc should look like this: -r c:\roms\tyche-tra.rom -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l win2@sub2\qlay.dir -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f 11538.46 Replace the -f with the appropriate one for your machine Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Ah, now I thought I was subscribed to ql-developers, but it's a long time since I last had an email from it. Would you mind sending me a copy of the email if you still have it? -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions... ??? 11/11/2002 4:25:07 ??, ?/? Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I'd suggest going for pointer environment if feasible. Another thing to learn ;) I'll spend the first few weeks just building the structure and getting back-room stuff working, like DNS and connecting to a mail server. Is Qeymail based on soql or have you got your own web access routines? It will be based on soql, as I'm not competent to write a TCP stack ;) There also the new stack from Peter Graf as well (see announcement in QL- developers last month) As long as it's based on the C68 BSD libraries I don't see why it wouldn't work there too :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Q-Emulator 2
??? 11/11/2002 5:24:16 ??, ?/? Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Thanks Phoebus, I'll see where can this best be permenently documented. E.g. where I offer the Tyche ROM and perhaps in the QL EMulators CD somewhere. Dilwyn It is in there and moreover I updated it too... Release 4 is almost ready... I've sent you a copy via Rich :-) Also got permission from Paul Holmgren (and agreed on a royaltee fee as well)... Email me privately pls ;-)
Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
??? 11/11/2002 6:38:02 ??, ?/? Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Tony Firshman wrote: he he - I could have told you _you_ made a copy, as you sent me one. Thanks Tony, I feel a lot better now :-(( At this point I am officially sending in my brain for a refund or replacement as it is clearly unsuited for the purpose for which it was bought. Nah... no need to throw it away, it just came orignially with an AH rom and dongle, better upgrade it with minerva mk II ;-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 18:22:09, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: SP94TRWTUP9471GC8SOKFHEGDRNHA.3dd03ba1@quantumcentral) ??? 11/11/2002 3:51:42 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: You may have noticed I have recently changed my email address - this is a forwarding address of course (11). Underneath it is still Demon. However I am getting ADSL set up on my Linux box on Wednesday via another provider. Once that is working and tested I will leave Demon. As I will have fixed IP addresses, it will allow me to set up a local web server. I am looking forward to have effectively unlimited storage and scripting, for less than it currently costs for my Demon ISDN link. I have got a local net router, so all my local systems will connect via Linux using IP masquerading. No more negotiating with Ben (8-)# I would suggest you try xitami for linux as it is EXTREMELY small and portable and a dream to setup. (Not to mention that you can use ANYTHING you want for CGI etc...) If you really can't be bothered with Apache Someone is setting up Apache (and Debian) for me - I wouldn't dare to refuse. , it is extremely compact... you'll like it... it is also so easy to port that it isn't unlikely that it is portable to SMSQ/E (Even on Minerva why not?) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 01:22:22, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: 00b901c28920$c9deb610$0100a8c0macnamarf6d1fc) Hi Phoebus More like a Spanner than a Spammer Yep. or as Spike Milligan said, 'A Spaniard in the Works' The spanner is still there - I have made the change to include all my spam addresses (and ben) but it looks like changes at oneandone take a few hours. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 at 00:28:20, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: Ta for these error reports - I now realise I have to explicitly set all name@ as well. No, you can set a wildcard *. Doh - why don't they say that on the web page. Still I like setting it explicitly, so that msg ID type addresses get automagically bounced. Interesting that 11 is also active in UK. It's actually a German company (my site's there, too). ... and they are very cheap - just over £2 a year per domain name. BTW I discovered later that my boss (Worldnews) hijacked firshman.com just for the hell of it. Try www.firshman.com (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] QL Service Manual in HTML Format
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 23:38:02, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 003301c289db$8f32a7e0$fd075cc3blackpc) Tony Firshman wrote: he he - I could have told you _you_ made a copy, as you sent me one. Thanks Tony, I feel a lot better now :-(( At this point I am officially sending in my brain for a refund or replacement as it is clearly unsuited for the purpose for which it was bought. Sorry it is unique and irreplaceable - you will have to make do with what you have got (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] activity
??? 11/11/2002 5:11:01 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 23:33:54, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 001a01c289da$d71d6960$fd075cc3@blackpc) Wow, since my recent reformat of my hard drive, I've now got 705 messages in my email system, most of them from ql-users I think and I know I've deleted quite a few as well. Of late, this list has got very busy and very interesting! Looks like us sheep have been woken up (8-)# Yes - 64 in 20 minutes looks like some sort of record. I was intending to start _real_ work 45 minutes ago. Yes and I was supposed to start real work YESTERDAY ;-) Don't feel bad :-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
I don't follow these headers either, I am just glad you got it sorted and got Marcel to explain it, I don't understand why macnamara.fsbusiness.co.uk is mentioned (that is our ADSL identity) as we use UK2 s servers at canary wharf. one big mystery. Regards Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.macnamaras.com - Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Tony Firshman wrote: Is this the rejecter? Looks like it never even got to Demon. The official mail server for firshman.co.uk is located at SchlundPartner, Germany. And it's that server that rejects the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address (it says that it doesn't know anybody with this mail address). I am no expert in interpreting headers - maybe others can help. I am using forwarding - can that be the problem? 11 are the source of the domain name. Yes, 11 uses the SchlundPartner facilities. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] New SMSQ/E reseller!
Dilwyn Jones wrote: The man himself has been very low key about it, so I'll remind y'all! Phoebus Dokos is now an official SMSQ/E reseller, and I am his first customer. :) Congratulations, Phobey, and I hope you sell many tens of thousands of copies! :o) Dave He's also an authorised seller of the Dilwyn Jones QL CD-ROMs, which should make it easier for north Americans to get hold of those CD-ROMs from him rather than struggle with dollar/Sterling/Euro conversions getting them from Darren or me. -- Dilwyn Jones AND I will add that the details of allowing distribution with QL ROM permissions worked out in the USA is being worked out as we type. :- -- Paul Holmgren Hoosier Corps #33, L-6 2 57 300-C's in Indy
Re: [ql-users] activity
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 19:35:33, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: IH1TPJKHPO1XHFIHUTHDYSW293C70.3dd04cd5@quantumcentral) ??? 11/11/2002 5:11:01 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 at 23:33:54, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 001a01c289da$d71d6960$fd075cc3@blackpc) Wow, since my recent reformat of my hard drive, I've now got 705 messages in my email system, most of them from ql-users I think and I know I've deleted quite a few as well. Of late, this list has got very busy and very interesting! Looks like us sheep have been woken up (8-)# Yes - 64 in 20 minutes looks like some sort of record. I was intending to start _real_ work 45 minutes ago. Yes and I was supposed to start real work YESTERDAY ;-) Don't feel bad :-) ... but there have been another 30. I am still reading and writing 45 minutes later (8-)# b b -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Dave P writes: The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? Each has plusses and minuses. Discuss. Imho, the simplest solution would be your last option. However, due to the limitations of the Qdos/SMSQ FS there is a limit on the number of files that can usefully be stored in a directory without slowing down the whole system. (The actual physical limit is 32k files per directory, I believe). With the current name length limit youd probably be better off with sub-directory and filenames reduced to same-length consecutive numbers, with the real names held in an index, or indexes. You might be able to work with zip though, using its directory, name, compression and encryption facilities? (However, file integrity would be difficult to maintain - eg a powercut during file operations could be catastrophic.) Doing it all in one big file would more or less involve writing your own file system! (Could be fun). Second, multiple mail boxes. Is the ability to send/receive from multiple mailboxes useful or not? What about profiles where one profile is accessed at a time, or is the ability to access multiple mailboxes simultaneously 'very important' to you? I dont use such features at present, but it might prove useful. Why not wait until V2.00? Finally, how important would it be to use a pointer environment, or would you be happy to use industry standard CTRL-key combinations? PE is a must for the likes of me. But that would lock some other people out, of course. Perhaps youd have to do two versions ;) Per
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Le Lundi, 11 nove 2002, à 20:17 US/Eastern, P Witte a écrit : I plan to do developmental work in S*BASIC. I like to clearly lay out in very readable fashion how everything works, especially the transactions between servers. It'll be a simple test rig. Once the mechanics are shown to work, I may (will?) start over using PE. Or Prowess. Yes, ProWess is much, much, MUCH easier to program and more powerful. You could even, one day, add HTML email rendering... I really don't understand why people don't program using the ProWess window manager. The usual complain was that it needed a fast QL. But these days, with the Q40, Q60 and emulators on fast PCs this is not a problem anymore. I find it runs at an acceptable speed even on my SCG !! It can already use the full range of colors with the GD2 and it is free and open source so it could be made even faster. I, for one, will never again write anything using the PE. Its ugly and difficult to do. I wonder how many developer on this list had tried ProWess/ProForma. Just my 0.02$ but I welcome comments. -- François Lanciault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ql-users] New SMSQ/E reseller!
paul holmgren wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote: snip AND I will add that the details of allowing distribution with QL ROM permissions worked out in the USA is being worked out as we type. :- -- Paul Holmgren A small PS: This is the first effort where folks actualy asked us about permissions in the years that we have had our publicly stated position on the QL ROMs. (initally, this was the main thing we were trying to say concerning distribution of material in the NA area containing the QL Rom code.) -- Paul Holmgren Hoosier Corps #33, L-6 2 57 300-C's in Indy
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
Yes, ProWess is much, much, MUCH easier to program and more powerful. You could even, one day, add HTML email rendering... I really don't understand why people don't program using the ProWess window manager. The usual complain was that it needed a fast QL. But these days, with the Q40, Q60 and emulators on fast PCs this is not a problem anymore. I find it runs at an acceptable speed even on my SCG !! It can already use the full range of colors with the GD2 and it is free and open source so it could be made even faster. -- François Lanciault [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would agree that ProWess is much easier to develop in and that the newer systems can handle its requirements without an issue. Unfortunately, many people do not have faster systems so it would lock them out. I had considered using it for QDT but I heard from quite a few people who are fairly active with their QLs but did not have a fast enough system to use it seamlessly. Pointer environment is not as easy but it isn't that bad, especially if you just use a simple basic window with the standard items. In this case I would imagine that the only 'application' window item would be a text display type which should be easy. Once you get through the basics, using the correct tools which someone else mentioned, it is fairly straight forward to program in. And there are a lot of people around who can help. I believe that the intent was to do the development work in S-Basic. Easy pointer should work well there. Adding GD2 (full color) takes a bit of experimenting but can be done after all the major window/menu work is complete. I am doing the QDT color tuning towards the end of all the actual code myself. Jim Hunkins
Re: [ql-users] Re: ql-users GD2 programs.
I don't know if you are including programs in development or not. I had mentioned it previously but I might have sent this from the wrong address so you wouldn't see it. QDT definitely takes advantage of GD2. Jim Hunkins On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 12:30 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: My GD2-using list of QL programs by now includes:
Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...
The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? I don't like the idea of a single file. Take a look at Microsoft's email program - there have been many problems with the single file once it gets too large. Things slow down, corruption is possible, and trying to extract and save individual emails gets 'interesting'. Someone else mentioned the QL file limitations per directory. This could become a problem for someone who gets a lot of emails. You might want to break it into weekly directories with individual emails or something like that. If too many emails happened (what is the file limit?) then your software could create additional directories for that particular week. Of course, an index is the only way to handle the speed. Also, are you aiming this at all users including floppy and microdrive types? If so, what happens if a user fills up a floppy, etc (for some of us, this is a real possibility). Just some thoughts... Jim Hunkins
