RE: [ql-users] WMAN progress
Marcel, but at least you can speak English German - we Brits think that everyone should learn English so that we don't have to bother learning their language :o( Cheers, Norman. PS. French keyboards - AZERTY and all that - yeuch ! - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 5:38 PM To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress Well, at least the characters are all at the same position. Ever tried typing on a French or similar keyboard? I needed ages to only type the command to switch the keyboard layout ;) I took French at school - and I'm even worse at that ! I know that feeling ;) Cheers, Marcel This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress
On 20 Nov 2002, at 13:51, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Hi. All things I wanted to integrate into WMAN are now there, Great news! though some still need to be tested. I'm volunteering! (...) The development state is too early to be integrated into the other versions. That will probably follow in December. I stand ready for that... Anybody volunteering for adaption work? Finally, for anybody interested I have attached the current system palette. That should be almost the final version but I am of course still open for suggestions. (...) Marcel has done an enormous amount of work - ALL ALONE! Fabulous. Wolfgang
Re: RE: [ql-users] WMAN progress
??? 21/11/2002 4:30:22 ??, ?/? Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Marcel, but at least you can speak English German - we Brits think that everyone should learn English so that we don't have to bother learning their language :o( Considering yours is a mostly Germanic language which uses a wealthy supply of French words (thanks to Normands;-) (Among others), that seems almost as odd as Greeks thinking that the world owes them ... (yeah right!)... (Almost but not AS bad ;-) :-D (Moral: We are ALL crazy aren't we?) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] One box or two
??? 21/11/2002 8:36:59 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 at 21:15:12, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: 05TO1TN2164XRWUFD65OM1ZZX07DZX.3ddc41b0@quantumcentral) ??? 20/11/2002 7:15:52 ??, ?/? Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: The mouse is a different kettle of herring. Keith Mitchel can make a PS/2 mouse work with a superHermes Lite but that is a direct wiring. Most converters just do not work. I am not sure what you meant exactly by that... If Keith has adapted a PS/2 only mouse directly on the superHermes I would like to talk to him to exchange designs (And Tony I would expect!) I know about this - it uses the 'spare' port and the 5v/gnd and I/O lines there. Well it won't work unless he gets a clock from somewhere (Unless he's using one of the I/O lines as a clock -but I doubt it is electrically compatible to begin with with that-) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] keyboards
I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !) That's because he IS German, though he lives near Paris. Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards. Joachim
RE: [ql-users] keyboards
I think you are correct Joachim, if my memory serves me well, which it normally does not, the '/' is on an ALT GR shift as well - probably the 7 key I think. This makes doing anything in unix a pain as you need three fingers to get at a single '/'. I remember Paris, I went there once. It was cold and the streets were paved with something not unlike dog poo ! But we won't go down that route :o) Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Joachim Van der Auwera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] keyboards I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !) That's because he IS German, though he lives near Paris. Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards. Joachim This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] Easyptr
On 19 Nov 2002, at 20:49, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Anyone have any experience of saving and restoring screen areas with Easyptr under GD2? Can it be made to work reliably or not? I had a quick go and could get it to load (L_WSA) a mode 32 PIC file and display it (using WSARS) as long as the PIC file and the current screen mode were the same, I don't know about Easyptr, but if it uses the underlying PI features, then this is correct - it saves and restores screen areas and expects them to be in the same screen mode when restoring as when saving. i.e. mode 32 pictures could only be displayed in mode 32, a mode 0 (QL 4 colour) pic could not be displayed in mode 32 for example, which was probably predictable. yup. If anyone knows more about this, let me know to save me wasting too much time on something which can't be done reliably yet. (I'm trying to write a simple PIC and SCR graphics viewer for Launchpad using Easyptr). No, that wouldn't really work with these OS (PI) calls, if the images to be displayed aren't of the same screen mode. You would need some kind of conversion program. I can't remember whether the scr format stores the screen format/mode with the file or not - if you need that info, I can find out. What I'm afraid of is a scenario like: I find it only works on QPC2 for example as it's the only GD2 system I have to test it on at the moment! If, again, it uses the underlying OS calls, then is should work on any machine as well as on QPC. It seems to work at first glance, but it's my first significant foray into Easyptr versus GD2, so any advice gratefully received! I have always foun that GD2 doesn't really change anything for programs that aren't aware of it, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Wolfgang
RE: RE: [ql-users] WMAN progress
Hi Phoebus, I think English has so many different sources, French, German, Nordic, etc because there was a time when England was simply invaded by any old group of Continentals who had a spare weekend and were bored. Angles, Saxons, Gauls ?, Romans, Vikings, Danes etc etc - no wonder the language is so hard to learn. (I'll probably get shot for that !) Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Phoebus Dokos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [ql-users] WMAN progress Considering yours is a mostly Germanic language which uses a wealthy supply of French words (thanks to Normands;-) (Among others), that seems almost as odd as Greeks thinking that the world owes them ... (yeah right!)... (Almost but not AS bad ;-) :-D (Moral: We are ALL crazy aren't we?) This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] keyboards
On 21 Nov 2002, at 13:35, Norman Dunbar wrote: Hi Wolfgang, I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !) What, Wolfgang is a germanic sounding name? Whatever gave you that idea? I'm living near Paris, though, hence the Azerty... Ok, if you are so clever then, get over here and use a QWERTY - that'll sort you out :o) That's what my first QL had, I bought it in '84 in London. :-) Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] Easyptr
Wolfgang Lenerz makes some magical things to make me read } If anyone knows more about this, let me know to save me wasting too } much time on something which can't be done reliably yet. (I'm trying } to write a simple PIC and SCR graphics viewer for Launchpad using } Easyptr). } } No, that wouldn't really work with these OS (PI) calls, if the images } to be displayed aren't of the same screen mode. You would need } some kind of conversion program. I can't remember whether the scr } format stores the screen format/mode with the file or not - if you } need that info, I can find out. PIC do save the mode format (and picture size too), but as far as I know, SCR are just SBYTES of the screen (raw format). Which means that not only you you need the same mode, but also the same sizes! (That's was no problem with old QL: only either 512x256x4 or 256x256x8+, and mode 8 was rarely used anyway! and only one organisation of the memory too) -- Grimbert Jérôme
Re: [ql-users] keyboards
Norman Dunbar wrote: Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards. That's right of course. Still, 24 out of 26 is not that bad ;) I think you are correct Joachim, if my memory serves me well, which it normally does not, the '/' is on an ALT GR shift as well Only Shift + 7. \ is on AltGR + ß. There is no key that uses AltGR Shift. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] keyboards
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 at 14:48:55, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I remember Paris, I went there once. It was cold and the streets were paved with something not unlike dog poo ! and the cycle routes are paved in glass (8-)# I got two punctures once on the way back to Gare du Nord after a QL show. Had to reinforce the outer tyre with sellotape, but still got to the station in time! Similar to the time I repaired Stuart H's outer with bits of his rucksack when his bicycle tyre exploded like a gunshot en route from Reggio Emilia to Parma after an Italian show. It was a quiet village, and all the dogs started barking and people came out of their houses. Just as well we were not in Sicily (8-)# I love Paris though - even with the mess. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] One box or two
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 at 09:42:09, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: LKYTVUNMKI963X1Z96FBPLTNTQCBPLD0.3ddcf0c1@quantumcentral) Mitchel can make a PS/2 mouse work with a superHermes Lite but that is a direct wiring. Most converters just do not work. I am not sure what you meant exactly by that... If Keith has adapted a PS/2 only mouse directly on the superHermes I would like to talk to him to exchange designs (And Tony I would expect!) I know about this - it uses the 'spare' port and the 5v/gnd and I/O lines there. Well it won't work unless he gets a clock from somewhere (Unless he's using one of the I/O lines as a clock -but I doubt it is electrically compatible to begin with with that-) It should be - but it would be easy to fit an external oscillator as there is a spare line. I must look up the specs. Mind you the I/O line is TTL so surely that is OK if the clock can be software derived. Can it work asynchronously? -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
sH and PS/2 (was: [ql-users] One box or two)
??? 21/11/2002 11:52:37 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: It should be - but it would be easy to fit an external oscillator as there is a spare line. I must look up the specs. Mind you the I/O line is TTL so surely that is OK if the clock can be software derived. Can it work asynchronously? In principle it's only asynchronous... as it has to wait for the clock to send data... and the computer side doesn't receive when it sends clock signals AFAIK... but then again I have to look... I looked up the software clock possibility but I cannot recall why I abandoned it... on second thoughts the PIC packs a lot more power than what the QL asks it to do... so why not? It should work, shouldn't it? Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] One box or two
In message 76D9F06BB0F9D411B65500B0D079D90A15F3C7@NTSRV01, Claude Mourier 00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes To use ProWess, you need speed . Yes but not that much. It ran fine on my Q40 (when the writeback cache was turned off that is) . On my laptop (800MHz celeron), BlaqBox (667MHz Via) and main PC (1.6GHz P4) it is a bit faster but I could use it OK on the Q 40. Most of the speed loss is in drawing the menus I think and that is something that needs addressing in ProWesS itself rather than by using a faster CPU. This is the Microsoft approach. -- Roy Wood Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: though some still need to be tested. I'm volunteering! You would have gotten the new version whether you wanted or not ;-) (...) The development state is too early to be integrated into the other versions. That will probably follow in December. I stand ready for that... Anybody volunteering for adaption work? Actually there's no adaption work required, as usual it will run out of the box. I just need to go through everything again, collect all involved files, etc. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] keyboards
In article 005301c2916b$f3b4b630$6a00a8c0@pc06, Joachim Van der Auwera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !) That's because he IS German, though he lives near Paris. Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards. I use a Nokia Data PS2 keyboard on this PC for email ... it has a QWERTY key layout, but the language is Spainish ( ? ) ... can anyone confirm ? The TAB key is 'Bloq Mayus', SCROLL lock is 'Bloq Despl'. It was only 1ukp at a Radio Rally some years back, it is an excellent 'sculptured' layout and feel to it. The actual 'legends' printed do not matter ... -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress
(...) Anybody volunteering for adaption work? Actually there's no adaption work required, as usual it will run out of the box. I just need to go through everything again, collect all involved files, etc. I want more of stuff like that! Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress
??? 22/11/2002 12:47:36 ??, ?/? Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: (...) Anybody volunteering for adaption work? Actually there's no adaption work required, as usual it will run out of the box. I just need to go through everything again, collect all involved files, etc. I want more of stuff like that! Wolfgang Since you wanted more... take a look on what I am helping Marcel create ;-) Phoebus attachment: qpac2-proposal.png
[ql-users] Ooopsss
ooop sorry, this is was only supposed to go to Wolfgang... Forgot to remove the To: from the reply... *Hides* Phoebus
