Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:07:59, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 at 18:28:09, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) It is a nice feature of Turnpike to receive email from a list like this into a defined Newsgroup. However, it doesn't always work. This computer with Turnpike receives it in the default mailbox, so I have to cut and paste into the Newsgroup. On my other computers with Turnpike it works fine. So any change with the header can only help. Maybe it is down to version differences. Mind oyu I have never had any problem with routeing of mailing lists, and I think I have used _all_ versions from V3. Incidentally, I see you posted this using TP 6.01. You should be using 6.02! Yes, it is 6.01S on this computer, and on my other 'almost twin' PC it is 6.01U ... although I don't think this is the problem as much as the exact configuration. I have just checked one against the other in the configuration, and this has revealed that I made slightly different choices in the set up. The interesting thing is they both have same 'built on' date - 14-03-02 - yet this one is missing the FTP client, and the other one has it. I must have inadvertently clicked something on the installation, as it was from the same CD ( or so I now assume ). Odd, though, that the version numbers have a different letter at the end. The letter is they type of license. I always had 'U' which I thought was one user, and became 'M' when I bought a two user license. However, logically, 'S' is single user. In any case, it doesn't affect the functionality, other that the number of concurrent machines using TPE. OK ... that probably explains the codes :-) I have realised, again, that I left the FTP client out because of low memory on the hard drive. I believe I have now tracked down the problem ... a subtle typing error of 'ql_users' rather than 'ql-users' for the mailing list. -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03 - sources are out
Hi all,
The sources for smsqe 3.03 are now officially out.
(smsqe 3.03 itself is avaialble from your usual reseller).
I have enclosed, as an attachment, some small text files, they tell you
what is new in this version.
I shall be sending the sources out on monday to those who have
recently requested them from me.
Wolfgang
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Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03 - sources are out
Wolfgang writes: The sources for smsqe 3.03 are now officially out. (smsqe 3.03 itself is avaialble from your usual reseller). I have enclosed, as an attachment, some small text files, they tell you what is new in this version. I shall be sending the sources out on monday to those who have recently requested them from me. How very exciting! An enormous amount of work seems to have gone into this. Thanks to all you hard-working contributers. Where would we be without you? Please include me on your mailing list, Wolfgang. (A blank disk and postage will be dispatched this weekend.) Per
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:07:59, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 at 18:28:09, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) It is a nice feature of Turnpike to receive email from a list like this into a defined Newsgroup. However, it doesn't always work. This computer with Turnpike receives it in the default mailbox, so I have to cut and paste into the Newsgroup. On my other computers with Turnpike it works fine. So any change with the header can only help. Maybe it is down to version differences. Mind oyu I have never had any problem with routeing of mailing lists, and I think I have used _all_ versions from V3. Incidentally, I see you posted this using TP 6.01. You should be using 6.02! Yes, it is 6.01S on this computer, and on my other 'almost twin' PC it is 6.01U ... although I don't think this is the problem as much as the exact configuration. I have just checked one against the other in the configuration, and this has revealed that I made slightly different choices in the set up. The interesting thing is they both have same 'built on' date - 14-03-02 - yet this one is missing the FTP client, and the other one has it. I must have inadvertently clicked something on the installation, as it was from the same CD ( or so I now assume ). Odd, though, that the version numbers have a different letter at the end. The letter is they type of license. I always had 'U' which I thought was one user, and became 'M' when I bought a two user license. However, logically, 'S' is single user. In any case, it doesn't affect the functionality, other that the number of concurrent machines using TPE. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On 22 Oct 2003, at 19:37, Roy wood wrote: (...) You have just broken your own licence ! Well I AM allowed to send it out for testing purposes, and it obviously was intended only for you, not the entire list. So the intention was OK, at least. Wolfgang - www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On 22 Oct 2003, at 17:30, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Hi Roy, This is what should be the final version of SMSQ/E 3.03 for the GoldCard. Would you lminbd having a look at it, to see whther is now (!) works OK bvefore I release it? It works here, but I remember you having had problems before. Oh dear, I really shot myself in the foot there, didn't I? This of course was a private message meant for Roy Wood. Sorry! Wolfgang. - www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On 22 Oct 2003, at 23:25, Marcel Kilgus wrote: I dont suppose it was intentional Definitely not. Bloody right. (...) Yes, fortunately the version didn't include my GD2 aurora driver. It never does. Wolfgang - www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
RE: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On 22 Oct 2003, at 21:52, Duncan Neithercut wrote: I dont suppose it was intentional and its not Wolfgang's licence but its TTs SMSQ/E licence, but if you are interested I was sufficiently interested to test it on my Aurora setup. Aurora, Supergoldcard 2.49 Qubide 2.01. After approx 1.5hrs initial conclusion is that it works OK in mode 4 including window move but crashes immediately on boot if the initial colour depth is set to 256 instead of QL. Once in QL colour it cant be set into mode 16 or 256 colour that the Aurora supports. Hope that helps Yes it does, thanks. The version I distribute fdoes not have the high colour drivers in them, so it is not surprising that you can't use them. I should, though, take the corresponding config item out, of course. Wolfgang - www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On 22 Oct 2003, at 23:23, Tony Firshman wrote: This could save future embarrassment - I can feel the heat from Wolfgang's ears from here (8-)# Yup. I'm just baking bread in them. He isn't the first to post to the wrong place, and I am sure won't be the last. Thanks. I do hope it'll be MY last mispost, though. Again, apologies all around. Wolfgang - www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 at 20:09:09, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) And while Bruce is at it, I suggest he fixes the ql-users headers to an appropriate format so it identifies itself as a mailing list :-) I didn' know that was a header feature. Mind you get software (like Turnpike) which does all the necessary routeing etc by sender address. That is just as good isn't it? -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:36:48 +0100, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 at 20:09:09, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) And while Bruce is at it, I suggest he fixes the ql-users headers to an appropriate format so it identifies itself as a mailing list :-) I didn' know that was a header feature. It is not. Not really that is. Turnpike (and the Bat!) are smart enough to be able to distinguish them, however others (like Opera's M2, Eudora 5/6 etc) rely on the standard and thus it becomes a headers issue. (ie if some are missing then the post is not considered an mailing list message). Moreover this approach at times is better as it can potentially protect you from fraudulent posts (ie the spammer or virus writer may simulate some of the headers but not all of them (especially in a closed list like this one). The appropriate headers approach therefore will work great with both Turnpike and everything else that supports separation of regular from mailing list emails without loss of functionality (and a couple of additional benefits too) Mind you get software (like Turnpike) which does all the necessary routeing etc by sender address. That is just as good isn't it? No, not really since an email can be send from a mailing list but can also be forged (see above). If Bruce wants a sample configuration file for majordomo I'd be glad to send him one. (It's also nice how you upload that... easy as 1,2,3) Phoebus -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 at 18:28:09, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) It is a nice feature of Turnpike to receive email from a list like this into a defined Newsgroup. However, it doesn't always work. This computer with Turnpike receives it in the default mailbox, so I have to cut and paste into the Newsgroup. On my other computers with Turnpike it works fine. So any change with the header can only help. Maybe it is down to version differences. Mind oyu I have never had any problem with routeing of mailing lists, and I think I have used _all_ versions from V3. Incidentally, I see you posted this using TP 6.01. You should be using 6.02! -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 at 07:00:36, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:36:48 +0100, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 at 20:09:09, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) And while Bruce is at it, I suggest he fixes the ql-users headers to an appropriate format so it identifies itself as a mailing list :-) I didn' know that was a header feature. It is not. Not really that is. Turnpike (and the Bat!) are smart enough to be able to distinguish them, Not Turnpike. It simply offers mail routing - with a potentially complex algorithm. However I simply select by email address - perfectly OK for mailing lists. however others (like Opera's M2, Eudora 5/6 etc) rely on the standard and thus it becomes a headers issue. (ie if some are missing then the post is not considered an mailing list message). Moreover this approach at times is better as it can potentially protect you from fraudulent posts (ie the spammer or virus writer may simulate some of the headers but not all of them (especially in a closed list like this one). The appropriate headers approach therefore will work great with both Turnpike and everything else that supports separation of regular from mailing list emails without loss of functionality (and a couple of additional benefits too) Mind you get software (like Turnpike) which does all the necessary routeing etc by sender address. That is just as good isn't it? No, not really since an email can be send from a mailing list but can also be forged (see above). Ah I see - true. I have not seen any in the mailing lists I take, other than ql-chat. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Roy, This is what should be the final version of SMSQ/E 3.03 for the GoldCard. Would you lminbd having a look at it, to see whther is now (!) works OK bvefore I release it? It works here, but I remember you having had problems before. Wolfgang You have just broken your own licence ! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:37:13 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Roy, This is what should be the final version of SMSQ/E 3.03 for the GoldCard. Would you lminbd having a look at it, to see whther is now (!) works OK bvefore I release it? It works here, but I remember you having had problems before. Wolfgang You have just broken your own licence ! He did, didn't he? :-) (I think he sent it here by mistake though ;-) Phoebus -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03 - Broken LICENSE
Is this a sign from destiny ? Is this a present for the forthcoming Italian meeting ? Does not care, I am sure no one will use it.-)-)-) Ciao Fabrizio - Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Roy, This is what should be the final version of SMSQ/E 3.03 for the GoldCard. Would you lminbd having a look at it, to see whther is now (!) works OK bvefore I release it? It works here, but I remember you having had problems before. Wolfgang You have just broken your own licence ! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:52:41 +0100, Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont suppose it was intentional and its not Wolfgang's licence but its TTs SMSQ/E licence, but if you are interested I was sufficiently interested to test it on my Aurora setup. Aurora, Supergoldcard 2.49 Qubide 2.01. After approx 1.5hrs initial conclusion is that it works OK in mode 4 including window move but crashes immediately on boot if the initial colour depth is set to 256 instead of QL. Once in QL colour it cant be set into mode 16 or 256 colour that the Aurora supports. Hope that helps Duncan Neithercut That is because this is NOT the Colour driver-enabled SMSQ/E although it is colour commands/GD2- aware. You can test by looking at the filesizes. The colour driver -inclusive version measures a hefty 161K (30 K approx larger than the non-colour-driver version. Phoebus PS: You can upgrade from your current version to the colour supporting SMSQ/E version for a small fee from all SMSQ/E vendors :-) -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
Duncan Neithercut wrote: I dont suppose it was intentional Definitely not. Aurora, Supergoldcard 2.49 Qubide 2.01. After approx 1.5hrs initial conclusion is that it works OK in mode 4 including window move but crashes immediately on boot if the initial colour depth is set to 256 instead of QL. Yes, fortunately the version didn't include my GD2 aurora driver. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 at 23:25:24, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Duncan Neithercut wrote: I dont suppose it was intentional Definitely not. Aurora, Supergoldcard 2.49 Qubide 2.01. After approx 1.5hrs initial conclusion is that it works OK in mode 4 including window move but crashes immediately on boot if the initial colour depth is set to 256 instead of QL. Yes, fortunately the version didn't include my GD2 aurora driver. If it is possible it would be great to configure the mailing list server to reject 'binary' messages. This could save future embarrassment - I can feel the heat from Wolfgang's ears from here (8-)# He isn't the first to post to the wrong place, and I am sure won't be the last. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
Tony Firshman wrote: If it is possible it would be great to configure the mailing list server to reject 'binary' messages. I second that, binaries are a no-no for this list anyway. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] Re:smsqe 3.03
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:45:28 +0200, Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: If it is possible it would be great to configure the mailing list server to reject 'binary' messages. I second that, binaries are a no-no for this list anyway. Marcel And while Bruce is at it, I suggest he fixes the ql-users headers to an appropriate format so it identifies itself as a mailing list :-) Phoebus -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
