Re: [R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-02 Thread peter dalgaard 

> On 02 Apr 2017, at 19:15 , Spencer Graves 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-04-02 8:42 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:
>>> On 02 Apr 2017, at 14:53 , Spencer Graves 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2017-04-02 4:10 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:
 Not fooling, no.
 
 However, r-help/r-announce/r-devel was a restructuring of the r-testers 
 list. This goes back to March 20, 1996. The first archived post of 
 r-testers is
 
• just a test (the 'archiving' does not yet work) -->> Nr. 2 Martin 
 Maechler
 
 so the actual start may have been a few days before.
>>> 
>>>  So R was 11 when we celebrated its tenth birthday in Ames, Iowa, 
>>> August 8-10, 2007?
>> No, but the R Core Team was formed in August 1997.
>> 
>> The birthdate of R itself is not well-defined. It could be June 1995 (GPL 
>> release), August 1993 (Announcement on S-news), or some night at the Black 
>> Crow Cafe in Auckland in the early 90's.
> 
> 
>  The Wikipedia article on "S (programming language)" said it first 
> appeared in 1976 for the GCOS operating system.  "In late 1979, S was ported 
> from GCOS to UNIX, which would become the new primary platform."  I remember 
> using S or S-PLUS in the late 1980s, when it was only available for UNIX.  In 
> the early 1990s, I got S-PLUS for Windows.  I'm pretty sure S-PLUS was NOT 
> available for Macs in the late 1990s.

Did anyone say that it was?? Anyways, as I recall it, part of the genesis of R 
was exactly that the Auckland computer labs were Mac-based and R wanted a 
mini-S to run on them.

-pd

> 
> 
>   Spencer Graves
>> 
>> -pd
>> 
>>> 
>>>  Best Wishes,
>>>  Spencer Graves
 ...
 
 Incidentally, looking at the last posts of r-testers, it seems that CRAN 
 turned 20 last week:
 
 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:20:35 +0100
 Message-Id: <199703261520.qaa08...@aragorn.ci.tuwien.ac.at>
 From: Kurt Hornik 
 To: r-test...@stat.math.ethz.ch
 
 Subject: R-alpha: ANNOUNCE:  CRAN
 
 This is a first (alpha) announcement for the
 
Comprehensive R Archive Network
(CRAN)
 
 project.
 ...
 
 
 
 -pd
 
 
 
> On 02 Apr 2017, at 08:17 , John  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:19:07 -0700
> Henrik Bengtsson  wrote:
> 
>> Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
>> community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
>> post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:
>> 
>> Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
>> From: Ross Ihaka 
>> When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
>> Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html
>> 
>> This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
>> think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
>> importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:
>> 
>>   "(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
>> memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
>> It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."
>> 
>> We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
>> many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
>> community the great experience it is today.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Henrik
>> 
> No fooling?
> 
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> 

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Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
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Re: [R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-02 Thread Spencer Graves 



On 2017-04-02 8:42 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:

On 02 Apr 2017, at 14:53 , Spencer Graves  
wrote:



On 2017-04-02 4:10 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:

Not fooling, no.

However, r-help/r-announce/r-devel was a restructuring of the r-testers list. 
This goes back to March 20, 1996. The first archived post of r-testers is

• just a test (the 'archiving' does not yet work) -->> Nr. 2 Martin 
Maechler

so the actual start may have been a few days before.


  So R was 11 when we celebrated its tenth birthday in Ames, Iowa, August 
8-10, 2007?

No, but the R Core Team was formed in August 1997.

The birthdate of R itself is not well-defined. It could be June 1995 (GPL 
release), August 1993 (Announcement on S-news), or some night at the Black Crow 
Cafe in Auckland in the early 90's.



  The Wikipedia article on "S (programming language)" said it first 
appeared in 1976 for the GCOS operating system.  "In late 1979, S was 
ported from GCOS to UNIX, which would become the new primary platform."  
I remember using S or S-PLUS in the late 1980s, when it was only 
available for UNIX.  In the early 1990s, I got S-PLUS for Windows.  I'm 
pretty sure S-PLUS was NOT available for Macs in the late 1990s.



   Spencer Graves


-pd



  Best Wishes,
  Spencer Graves

...

Incidentally, looking at the last posts of r-testers, it seems that CRAN turned 
20 last week:

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:20:35 +0100
Message-Id: <199703261520.qaa08...@aragorn.ci.tuwien.ac.at>
From: Kurt Hornik 
To: r-test...@stat.math.ethz.ch

Subject: R-alpha: ANNOUNCE:  CRAN

This is a first (alpha) announcement for the

Comprehensive R Archive Network
(CRAN)

project.
...



-pd




On 02 Apr 2017, at 08:17 , John  wrote:

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:19:07 -0700
Henrik Bengtsson  wrote:


Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:

Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
From: Ross Ihaka 
When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html

This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:

   "(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."

We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
community the great experience it is today.

Thank you!

Henrik


No fooling?

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Re: [R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-02 Thread peter dalgaard 

> On 02 Apr 2017, at 14:53 , Spencer Graves 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-04-02 4:10 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:
>> Not fooling, no.
>> 
>> However, r-help/r-announce/r-devel was a restructuring of the r-testers 
>> list. This goes back to March 20, 1996. The first archived post of r-testers 
>> is
>> 
>>  • just a test (the 'archiving' does not yet work) -->> Nr. 2 Martin 
>> Maechler
>> 
>> so the actual start may have been a few days before.
> 
> 
>  So R was 11 when we celebrated its tenth birthday in Ames, Iowa, August 
> 8-10, 2007?

No, but the R Core Team was formed in August 1997. 

The birthdate of R itself is not well-defined. It could be June 1995 (GPL 
release), August 1993 (Announcement on S-news), or some night at the Black Crow 
Cafe in Auckland in the early 90's.

-pd

> 
> 
>  Best Wishes,
>  Spencer Graves
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> Incidentally, looking at the last posts of r-testers, it seems that CRAN 
>> turned 20 last week:
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:20:35 +0100
>> Message-Id: <199703261520.qaa08...@aragorn.ci.tuwien.ac.at>
>> From: Kurt Hornik 
>> To: r-test...@stat.math.ethz.ch
>> 
>> Subject: R-alpha: ANNOUNCE:  CRAN
>> 
>> This is a first (alpha) announcement for the
>> 
>>  Comprehensive R Archive Network
>>  (CRAN)
>> 
>> project.
>> ...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -pd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 02 Apr 2017, at 08:17 , John  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:19:07 -0700
>>> Henrik Bengtsson  wrote:
>>> 
 Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
 community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
 post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:
 
 Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
 From: Ross Ihaka 
 When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
 Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html
 
 This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
 think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
 importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:
 
   "(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
 memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
 It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."
 
 We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
 many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
 community the great experience it is today.
 
 Thank you!
 
 Henrik
 
>>> No fooling?
>>> 
>>> __
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>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
> 
> __
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> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

-- 
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Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)38153501
Office: A 4.23
Email: pd@cbs.dk  Priv: pda...@gmail.com

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Re: [R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-02 Thread Spencer Graves 



On 2017-04-02 4:10 AM, peter dalgaard wrote:

Not fooling, no.

However, r-help/r-announce/r-devel was a restructuring of the r-testers list. 
This goes back to March 20, 1996. The first archived post of r-testers is

• just a test (the 'archiving' does not yet work) -->> Nr. 2 Martin 
Maechler

so the actual start may have been a few days before.



  So R was 11 when we celebrated its tenth birthday in Ames, Iowa, 
August 8-10, 2007?



  Best Wishes,
  Spencer Graves


...

Incidentally, looking at the last posts of r-testers, it seems that CRAN turned 
20 last week:

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:20:35 +0100
Message-Id: <199703261520.qaa08...@aragorn.ci.tuwien.ac.at>
From: Kurt Hornik 
To: r-test...@stat.math.ethz.ch

Subject: R-alpha: ANNOUNCE:  CRAN

This is a first (alpha) announcement for the

Comprehensive R Archive Network
(CRAN)

project.
...



-pd




On 02 Apr 2017, at 08:17 , John  wrote:

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:19:07 -0700
Henrik Bengtsson  wrote:


Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:

Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
From: Ross Ihaka 
When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html

This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:

   "(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."

We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
community the great experience it is today.

Thank you!

Henrik


No fooling?

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Re: [R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-02 Thread peter dalgaard 
Not fooling, no. 

However, r-help/r-announce/r-devel was a restructuring of the r-testers list. 
This goes back to March 20, 1996. The first archived post of r-testers is 

• just a test (the 'archiving' does not yet work) -->> Nr. 2 Martin 
Maechler

so the actual start may have been a few days before.

...

Incidentally, looking at the last posts of r-testers, it seems that CRAN turned 
20 last week:

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:20:35 +0100
Message-Id: <199703261520.qaa08...@aragorn.ci.tuwien.ac.at>
From: Kurt Hornik 
To: r-test...@stat.math.ethz.ch

Subject: R-alpha: ANNOUNCE:  CRAN

This is a first (alpha) announcement for the

Comprehensive R Archive Network 
(CRAN)

project.
...



-pd



> On 02 Apr 2017, at 08:17 , John  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:19:07 -0700
> Henrik Bengtsson  wrote:
> 
>> Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
>> community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
>> post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:
>> 
>> Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
>> From: Ross Ihaka 
>> When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
>> Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html
>> 
>> This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
>> think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
>> importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:
>> 
>>   "(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
>> memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
>> It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."
>> 
>> We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
>> many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
>> community the great experience it is today.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Henrik
>> 
> No fooling?
> 
> __
> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

-- 
Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)38153501
Office: A 4.23
Email: pd@cbs.dk  Priv: pda...@gmail.com

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Re: [R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-02 Thread John 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:19:07 -0700
Henrik Bengtsson  wrote:

> Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
> community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
> post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:
> 
> Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
> From: Ross Ihaka 
> When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
> Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html
> 
> This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
> think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
> importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:
> 
>"(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
> memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
> It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."
> 
> We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
> many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
> community the great experience it is today.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Henrik
> 
No fooling?

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[R] The R-help community list was started on this day 20 years ago

2017-04-01 Thread Henrik Bengtsson 
Today, it is been 20 years since Martin Mächler started the R-help
community list (https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/). The first
post was written by Ross Ihaka on 1997-04-01:

Subject: R-alpha: R-testers: pmin heisenbug
From: Ross Ihaka 
When: Tue Apr 1 10:35:48 CEST 1997
Archive: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/1997-April/001488.html

This is a post about R's memory model. We're talking R v0.50 beta. I
think that the paragraph at the end provides a nice anecdote on the
importance not to be overwhelmed by problems ahead:

   "(The consumption of one cell per string is perhaps the major
memory problem in R - we didn't design it with large problems in mind.
It is probably fixable, but it will mean a lot of work)."

We all know the story; an endless number of hours has been put in by
many contributors throughout the years, making The R Project and its
community the great experience it is today.

Thank you!

Henrik

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