Re: [R] Nested variables

2009-06-01 Thread Mark Difford

Daniel,

 Yes I am trying to model such data, and i need R to know that Site is
 nested within Habitat. 
 Do I use some kind of command before running the model (like factor() and
 so on) or do i 
 write it in the model formula. If so, how?

You still are not telling the list enough, since nesting specifications are
sometimes package/program specific. You could help yourself by reading some
of R's basic documentation about how to specify a nested model. Then it
will tell you what to do.

?formula

Or read §11.1 of An Introduction to R (one of R's manuals).

Regards, Mark.


DanielWC wrote:
 
 Hi. 
 Yes I am trying to model such data, and i need R to know that Site is
 nested within Habitat. Do I use some kind of command before running the
 model (like factor() and so on) or do i write it in the model formula. If
 so, how?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 Douglas Bates-2 wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM, DanielWC daniel.carsten...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello
 I am working with a biological data including variables called Habitat
 and
 Site, example:
 
 Habitat     Site
 
 Forest      Low
 Forest      Low
 Forest      High
 Forest      High
 
 I want to tell R that the Site variable is nested within the Forest
 variable
 (that it is not a new variable).
 Does anyone know how to do this?
 
 If you could explain what you mean by tell R, it would help.  Are
 you trying to model such data and you want to know how to express the
 relationship between such factors in a model formula?
 
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Re: [R] Nested variables

2009-06-01 Thread DanielWC

Hi. 
Yes I am trying to model such data, and i need R to know that Site is nested
within Habitat. Do I use some kind of command before running the model (like
factor() and so on) or do i write it in the model formula. If so, how?

Thanks



Douglas Bates-2 wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM, DanielWC daniel.carsten...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello
 I am working with a biological data including variables called Habitat
 and
 Site, example:
 
 Habitat     Site
 
 Forest      Low
 Forest      Low
 Forest      High
 Forest      High
 
 I want to tell R that the Site variable is nested within the Forest
 variable
 (that it is not a new variable).
 Does anyone know how to do this?
 
 If you could explain what you mean by tell R, it would help.  Are
 you trying to model such data and you want to know how to express the
 relationship between such factors in a model formula?
 
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Re: [R] Nested variables

2009-05-29 Thread Douglas Bates
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM, DanielWC daniel.carsten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello
 I am working with a biological data including variables called Habitat and
 Site, example:

 Habitat     Site

 Forest      Low
 Forest      Low
 Forest      High
 Forest      High

 I want to tell R that the Site variable is nested within the Forest variable
 (that it is not a new variable).
 Does anyone know how to do this?

If you could explain what you mean by tell R, it would help.  Are
you trying to model such data and you want to know how to express the
relationship between such factors in a model formula?

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