Re: [racket-users] [off-topic] any thoughts on gradescope?

2016-10-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Jay McCarthy  wrote:
> It looks neat. I've done similar things to Eli many times as well.
>
> https://github.com/jeapostrophe/grade-ninja -- Had the whole "give a
> free-form comment" or click a button to give the same feedback again

Yeah, I do have a GUI-kind-of thing too, hacked in Emacs...  The idea is
that I choose from a number of pre-made comment+grade entries, and it's
easy to switch them as I go from one question to the next.


> https://github.com/jeapostrophe/grade-samurai --- Expanded that with a
> Web UI for students and gave more explicit rubrics plus a self-grading
> step followed by a professor review
>
> Now I'm going to make a new one similar to the previous two where the
> students host their work on their own Git repos.

My main problem is getting a text file with the comments embedded in,
following a specific format.  If you get something generic enough it
would be cute.

But the main thing is that just doing the grading electronically is
pushing things in the right direction...

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Re: [racket-users] [off-topic] any thoughts on gradescope?

2016-10-11 Thread Jay McCarthy
It looks neat. I've done similar things to Eli many times as well.

https://github.com/jeapostrophe/grade-ninja -- Had the whole "give a
free-form comment" or click a button to give the same feedback again

https://github.com/jeapostrophe/grade-samurai --- Expanded that with a Web
UI for students and gave more explicit rubrics plus a self-grading step
followed by a professor review

Now I'm going to make a new one similar to the previous two where the
students host their work on their own Git repos.

Jay

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:11 AM, Eli Barzilay  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users
>  wrote:
> > Sorry, this is totally off-topic; this is the second time I’ve heard
> > of gradescope.com, and it looks like it might actually be
> > useful/interesting. It might also be a sleazy scam site that I wind up
> > hating. Most of the educators whose opinions I respect most are going
> > to get this message; do any of you have opinions on gradescope?
>
> Sorry but this is a bit more off-topic...  I haven't used this thing,
> but it makes a lot of sense to use something similar -- which I've been
> doing manually for ever: the idea is to have a fixed format for comments
> that include grades (or grade penalties), and that makes it natural to
> keep a file in a separate window with some pre-made comments and their
> grade (or penalty), and after a short while you have such comments for
> most cases.  The missing feature is being able to update a number and
> have it reflect in all files, but if the format is fixed and comments
> are copy-pasted, then it's easy enough to change grades with a quick
> grep.  It makes sense enough that many of my graders quickly pick it up.
>
> So it makes sense to me to automate this, but I wonder if they have a
> good way to do that with consuming text files, adding comments, then
> getting the graded versions without sending students to a different
> site.  Also, in many cases I'll adjust penalties based on the number of
> other problems you have in the same question.
>
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Re: [racket-users] [off-topic] any thoughts on gradescope?

2016-10-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users
 wrote:
> Sorry, this is totally off-topic; this is the second time I’ve heard
> of gradescope.com, and it looks like it might actually be
> useful/interesting. It might also be a sleazy scam site that I wind up
> hating. Most of the educators whose opinions I respect most are going
> to get this message; do any of you have opinions on gradescope?

Sorry but this is a bit more off-topic...  I haven't used this thing,
but it makes a lot of sense to use something similar -- which I've been
doing manually for ever: the idea is to have a fixed format for comments
that include grades (or grade penalties), and that makes it natural to
keep a file in a separate window with some pre-made comments and their
grade (or penalty), and after a short while you have such comments for
most cases.  The missing feature is being able to update a number and
have it reflect in all files, but if the format is fixed and comments
are copy-pasted, then it's easy enough to change grades with a quick
grep.  It makes sense enough that many of my graders quickly pick it up.

So it makes sense to me to automate this, but I wonder if they have a
good way to do that with consuming text files, adding comments, then
getting the graded versions without sending students to a different
site.  Also, in many cases I'll adjust penalties based on the number of
other problems you have in the same question.

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   http://barzilay.org/  Maze is Life!

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