Re: [RAUC] Rescue system

2018-05-17 Thread Kevin Golding

Hello Enrico,

Thank you for your reply, and confirmation of my understanding. Due to 
limit storage space on our device, we need to use a small update/rescue 
OS and our much larger main OS. I expect our rescue/update OS may just 
be a script (to start with) to mount the USB drive and run rauc on a 
pre-set file name, maybe flashing some of our LEDS as it does its work!


Kevin Golding


On 17/05/2018 16:22, Enrico Joerns wrote:

Hi Kevin,

On 05/17/2018 04:29 PM, Kevin Golding wrote:

Hello,

Am just getting my head around RAUC, and wondered if I'm right in 
thinking that a rescue system is not included with RAUC? i.e. I would 
need to find or create a small bootable rescue system that would run 
the RAUC update command say via say from a file on a USB stick?


conceptually RAUC is a generic update framework that can run on your 
Linux device and handle safe and atomic updates of partitions etc.
It does neither provide any ready-to-use distribution nor depend on 
any specific.


Thus building a system is always a task that should be solved outside 
of an update tool. With OE/Yocto, PTXdist and buildroot good build 
system exists for this that allow you to generate well defined 
customized systems in versioned and reproducible manner.


RAUC also does not depend on any specific source for its update 
artifacts. Neither on the production system nor on any rescue system. 
You can fetch your update from USB / network / storage media or 
whatever fits your concept or platform.


Nevertheless, conceptually a rescue system is surely supported. A slot 
configuration for your rescue system (and the default ones, too) would 
look like


  [slot.rootfs.0]
  device=/dev/mmcblk0p1
  ...

  [slot.rootfs.1]
  device=/dev/mmcblk0p1
  ...

  [slot.rescue.0]
  device=/dev/sda1
  ...


This would allow detecting RAUC that it is not running from one of the 
normal rootfs partitions but from the rescue partition instead and 
that it can safely upate the others.



If I am right, are there any examples of a rescue system available?


No. A rescue system can be as small as only a minimal 
kernel+initramfs+dtb with RAUC binary + dependencies which will result 
in a few kB. Most of the build systems above provide a minimal rootfs 
configuration that you can simply extend with RAUC.


https://rauc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/integration.html


Did that roughly point you in the right direction?


Best regards, Enrico




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Re: [RAUC] Rescue system

2018-05-17 Thread Enrico Joerns

Hi Kevin,

On 05/17/2018 04:29 PM, Kevin Golding wrote:

Hello,

Am just getting my head around RAUC, and wondered if I'm right in thinking that 
a rescue system is not included with RAUC? i.e. I would need to find or create 
a small bootable rescue system that would run the RAUC update command say via 
say from a file on a USB stick?


conceptually RAUC is a generic update framework that can run on your Linux 
device and handle safe and atomic updates of partitions etc.
It does neither provide any ready-to-use distribution nor depend on any 
specific.

Thus building a system is always a task that should be solved outside of an 
update tool. With OE/Yocto, PTXdist and buildroot good build system exists for 
this that allow you to generate well defined customized systems in versioned 
and reproducible manner.

RAUC also does not depend on any specific source for its update artifacts. 
Neither on the production system nor on any rescue system. You can fetch your 
update from USB / network / storage media or whatever fits your concept or 
platform.

Nevertheless, conceptually a rescue system is surely supported. A slot 
configuration for your rescue system (and the default ones, too) would look like

  [slot.rootfs.0]
  device=/dev/mmcblk0p1
  ...

  [slot.rootfs.1]
  device=/dev/mmcblk0p1
  ...

  [slot.rescue.0]
  device=/dev/sda1
  ...


This would allow detecting RAUC that it is not running from one of the normal 
rootfs partitions but from the rescue partition instead and that it can safely 
upate the others.


If I am right, are there any examples of a rescue system available?


No. A rescue system can be as small as only a minimal kernel+initramfs+dtb with 
RAUC binary + dependencies which will result in a few kB. Most of the build 
systems above provide a minimal rootfs configuration that you can simply extend 
with RAUC.

https://rauc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/integration.html


Did that roughly point you in the right direction?


Best regards, Enrico


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[RAUC] Rescue system

2018-05-17 Thread Kevin Golding

Hello,

Am just getting my head around RAUC, and wondered if I'm right in 
thinking that a rescue system is not included with RAUC? i.e. I would 
need to find or create a small bootable rescue system that would run the 
RAUC update command say via say from a file on a USB stick?


If I am right, are there any examples of a rescue system available?

Regards,

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Kevin Golding
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