Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread Horace
I think that for people who think TCO is an issue -- it is, and I don't try
to change their minds. But I think if someone is wondering whether it's
going to be an issue for them... it probably isn't.

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Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 I think that for people who think TCO is an issue -- it is, and I don't try
 to change their minds. But I think if someone is wondering whether it's
 going to be an issue for them... it probably isn't.


TCO was an issue, once, for me on one bike. Then I decided if I was in
a place where it could happen I had to be going so slowly that I'd
just stop and put a foot down.

It's not like I have clips or clipless pedals anyway so putting a foot
down isn't any extra work. :)
-sv

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Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread cyclotourist
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
  I think that for people who think TCO is an issue -- it is, and I don't
 try
  to change their minds. But I think if someone is wondering whether it's
  going to be an issue for them... it probably isn't.
 

 TCO was an issue, once, for me on one bike. Then I decided if I was in
 a place where it could happen I had to be going so slowly that I'd
 just stop and put a foot down.

 It's not like I have clips or clipless pedals anyway so putting a foot
 down isn't any extra work. :)
 -sv

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Grant et al

I was the OP for this conversation, and was wondering about TCO for a
specific reason:  off-road riding an Atlantis with SPD pedals.  When I'm
clicked in, TCO is bad cuz' I'm not the fastest un-clicker-outer.  That's
mainly only a problem on singletrack.  My AR doesn't have it, but it only
fits 42-44mm tires.  I'm looking at bikes that fit full 29ers, of which the
Atlantis is one.

No disparaging remarks about Atlantis were made or intended at all.  That's
a GREAT bike, no matter how much mucus is all over it!  I'm trying to
rationalize buying one

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Re: [RBW] TCO in general..

2010-02-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:22 PM, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote:

  Bicycles should not cause this kind
 of low-grade anxiety. It's unnecessary - if a bike has TCO, the wheels
 are too big. Design it out with smaller wheels!

 Oh, c'mon. TCO tolerance is as personal as saddle likes and pedal choices.
I have no problem adapting to TCO with (1) clips and (2) fenders and (3)
fixed drivetrain. I'd rather have TCO than other compromises, like smaller
wheels -- on the Motobecane -- or poorer handling or weight distribution.

Patrick anxiety? what anxiety? Moore, who automatically thinks about TCO
even with his 559/571 bikes and finds it doesn't bother him in the least.

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