Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities
Mac,
Yes, I was only talking about collective titles as a subtype of the
former uniform titles.
It seems RDA calls this a conventional collective title. The glossary
gives as the definition: A title used as the preferred title for a
compilation containing two or more works by one person, family, or
corporate body, or two or more parts of a work (e.g., Works, Poems,
Selections).
Heidrun
Mac said:
Heidrun said:
With respect to collective titles ...
I think we need to keep clear the distinction among:
1) A collective title on the manifestation transcribed in 245.
2) A collective title supplied by the cataloguer in 245 when the
collection lacks such a title, as opposed to transcribing part titles.
and
3) A collective uniform title supplied in 240.
I support the first two, and oppose the third, as a useless holdover
from cards.
Heidrun, I assume from the context you are speaking of collective
uniform titles. RDA's abandoning traditional terminology adds to
the confusion.
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Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities
Heidrun quoted RDA:
It seems RDA calls this a conventional collective title. The glossary
gives as the definition: A title used as the preferred title for a
compilation containing two or more works by one person, family, or
corporate body, or two or more parts of a work (e.g., Works, Poems,
Selections).
Confusing.
IMNSO preferred title should always be the title on the item in hand
or on screen, if there is one. It should be in 245. With the
exception of a collection lacking a collective title, something
created by the cataloguer is not a good substitute.
For a work with varying manifestation titles, of course one would use
the most used title of the work in 600$t and 700$t, e.g., Hamlet not
Tragedy of Hamlet.
If supplying a collective title for 245, it should be exact, e.g.,
Two Victorian novels not Works. Novels.; 'Love poems not Works.
Poems..
Using preferred title to mean either transcribed title or supplied
uniform title is ambiguous.
There is no reason to confuse patrons more than need be.
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-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: December-17-13 4:46 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities Heidrun quoted RDA: It seems RDA calls this a conventional collective title. The glossary gives as the definition: A title used as the preferred title for a compilation containing two or more works by one person, family, or corporate body, or two or more parts of a work (e.g., Works, Poems, Selections). Confusing. IMNSO preferred title should always be the title on the item in hand or on screen, if there is one. It should be in 245. With the exception of a collection lacking a collective title, something created by the cataloguer is not a good substitute. For a work with varying manifestation titles, of course one would use the most used title of the work in 600$t and 700$t, e.g., Hamlet not Tragedy of Hamlet. If supplying a collective title for 245, it should be exact, e.g., Two Victorian novels not Works. Novels.; 'Love poems not Works. Poems.. Using preferred title to mean either transcribed title or supplied uniform title is ambiguous. Preferred title for the work is the full name of the element, and it refers only to the work. The preferred title often involves a choice among possible titles or a conventional collective title for the work. There is only one preferred title for the work, even though the manifestations embodying the work may be identified by different titles proper. The preferred title is what is found in authorized access points for the work. The title proper is the title found in 245$a. A devised title may be recorded here as the title proper, if there is no title on the manifestation. Whatever the case, the title proper refers only to the manifestation in hand, and it may not be the same in the end as the preferred title for the work. While there may be a challenge in choosing the appropriate titles for each category, the categories themselves aren't that complicated. Title elements for the manifestation (considering only identifiers for the physical resource in hand): Title proper (includes devised title) Variant title (as transcribed from the cover, spine, etc.) Title elements for the work (considering the content and identifying it for all manifestations of the content): Preferred title for the work (includes conventional collective title) Variant title for the work (as found in SEE references) Thomas Brenndorfer Guelph Public Library To unsubscribe from RDA-L send an e-mail to the following address from the address you are subscribed under to: lists...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca In the body of the message: SIGNOFF RDA-L
