RE: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush

2000-11-11 Thread Beicht, Micheal
Title: Old white men vote in George Bush



Rod,
Where 
did you actually get these figures from??

kc

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  Old white men vote in George Bush
  Bush has been elected as the next president of 
  the US. As the following exit poll figures indicate this is largely a victory 
  won on the votes of the White American male:
  
  Race by Sex 
  All 
  Gore Bush 
  Buchanan 
  Nader
  White 
  Males 48 % 
  36 % 60 % 
  0 % 
   
  3 %White Females 
  52 % 48 % 
  49 % 0 
  % 
   
  2 %
  
  Vote by 
  Race All 
  Gore Bush 
  Buchanan 
  Nader
  White 
   81 
  % 42 % 54 
  % 0 % 
   3 
  %
  African-American10 
  % 90 % 8 
  % 0 % 
   
  1 %
  Hispanic 
   7 
  % 62 % 
  34 % 1 
  % 
   2 
  %Asian 
   2 
  % 55 % 
  41 % 1 
  % 
   3 
  %Other 
   1 
  % 56 % 
  38 % 0 
  % 
   4 
  %
  There is also little doubt that 
  Nader's green party (supported by 1% of black Americans) cost Gore the 
  presidency. (sorry if the figures don't come out in the right columns on 
  everyone's computers)
  
  Cheers
  Rod
  -- Rod Hagen[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hurstbridge, Victoria, 
  AustraliaWWW 
http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen


RE: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush

2000-11-11 Thread Beicht, Micheal
Title: RE: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush



Cool, 
thanks for that.
I'm 
amazed they know who, by ethnicity, is voting. 
Do we 
do that in Australia or do they just go by the census 
figures?

kc

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  HagenSent: Sunday, 12 November 2000 10:07 AMTo: 
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  in George Bush
  Rod,
  Where 
did you actually get these figures from??
  
  kc
  
  CNN exit polls
  
  Cheers
  
  Rod
  -- Rod Hagen[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hurstbridge, Victoria, 
  AustraliaWWW 
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RE: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush

2000-11-09 Thread Beicht, Micheal
Title: Old white men vote in George Bush



These 
figures do not indicate racism. 
How do 
you think it shows racism?? 
Just 
because a certain percentage of 'white' people vote for Bush does not mean it is 
based on racism. Pehaps it's because they are Pro-Lifers or just old fogies who 
hate change in Government and like Bush's daddy when he ran the country years 
ago.

So 
from what you are saying - Does this mean that African-Americans are racist 
because 90% voted for Gore!?!?

People 
making something out of these figures are turning it into a race issue, not the 
voters.


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  FordeSent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 10:15 AMTo: 
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  Re: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush
  Veryenlightening figures, Rod.
  
  On the huge disparity between the white male vote 
  and the vote of non-white Americans, racism among American white males 
  apppears to be the issue that basically decides elections in the 
  U.S.
  
  Australia has a habit of trailing along behind 
  America in all thingsforget the economics, race is the issue of the 
  future-Howard is on the right track to remain in power and continue his 
  racist policies if he is not seriously challenged on the issue.
  
  This Howard approach of saying " don't bring race 
  into it " works in the favour of those covertly promoting racism in the 
  communityrace has hardly been mentioned as an issue in the American 
  election, yet look at the figures---it is there alright.
  
  The only way to prevent racismdeciding the 
  election in Australia is to attack racist statements andthose who 
  make them, not back away in fear of creating a political "backlash" from 
  racists the 'backlash" is already there and must be discredited, not 
  ignored.
  
  Laurie
  
  Laurie and Desley FordeEmail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Without a treaty, which spells out the 
  obligations and rights of both parties, there can be no Reconciliation in 
  AustraliaGeoff Clark.
  
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- Original Message - 
From: 
Rod 
Hagen 
To: RecOzNet2 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Small Triple A 
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:45 
PM
    Subject: [recoznet2] Old white men vote 
in George Bush

Bush has been elected as the next president 
of the US. As the following exit poll figures indicate this is largely a 
victory won on the votes of the White American male:

Race by Sex 
All 
Gore Bush 
Buchanan 
Nader
White 
Males 48 
% 36 % 60 
% 0 % 
 
3 %White Females 
52 % 48 % 
49 % 0 
% 
 
2 %

Vote by 
Race All 
Gore Bush 
Buchanan 
Nader
White 
 81 
% 42 % 54 
% 0 % 
 3 
%
African-American10 
% 90 % 8 
% 0 % 
 
1 %
Hispanic 
 7 
% 62 % 
34 % 1 
% 
 2 
%Asian 
 2 
% 55 % 
41 % 1 
% 
 3 
%Other 
 1 
% 56 % 
38 % 0 
% 
 4 
%
There is also little doubt that 
Nader's green party (supported by 1% of black Americans) cost Gore the 
presidency. (sorry if the figures don't come out in the right columns on 
everyone's computers)

Cheers
Rod
-- Rod Hagen[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hurstbridge, Victoria, 
AustraliaWWW 
  http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen


Re: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush

2000-11-08 Thread Laurie Forde
Title: Old white men vote in George Bush



Veryenlightening figures, Rod.

On the huge disparity between the white male vote 
and  the vote of non-white Americans, racism among American white males apppears 
to be the issue that basically decides elections in the U.S.

Australia has a habit of trailing along behind 
America in all thingsforget the economics, race is the issue of the 
future-Howard is on the right track to remain in power and continue his 
racist policies if he is not seriously challenged on the issue.

This Howard approach of saying " don't bring race 
into it " works in the favour of those covertly promoting racism in the 
communityrace has hardly been mentioned as an issue in the American 
election, yet look at the figures---it is there alright.

The only way to prevent racismdeciding the 
election in Australia is to attack racist statements andthose who 
make them, not back away in fear of creating a political "backlash" from racists 
the 'backlash" is already there and must be discredited, not 
ignored.

Laurie

Laurie and Desley FordeEmail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Without a treaty, which spells out the obligations 
and rights of both parties, there can be no Reconciliation in AustraliaGeoff 
Clark.

--

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rod 
  Hagen 
  To: RecOzNet2 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; Small Triple A 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:45 
  PM
  Subject: [recoznet2] Old white men vote 
  in George Bush
  
  Bush has been elected as the next president of 
  the US. As the following exit poll figures indicate this is largely a victory 
  won on the votes of the White American male:
  
  Race by Sex 
  All 
  Gore Bush 
  Buchanan 
  Nader
  White 
  Males 48 % 
  36 % 60 % 
  0 % 
   
  3 %White Females 
  52 % 48 % 
  49 % 0 
  % 
   
  2 %
  
  Vote by 
  Race All 
  Gore Bush 
  Buchanan 
  Nader
  White 
   81 
  % 42 % 54 
  % 0 % 
   3 
  %
  African-American10 
  % 90 % 8 
  % 0 % 
   
  1 %
  Hispanic 
   7 
  % 62 % 
  34 % 1 
  % 
   2 
  %Asian 
   2 
  % 55 % 
  41 % 1 
  % 
   3 
  %Other 
   1 
  % 56 % 
  38 % 0 
  % 
   4 
  %
  There is also little doubt that 
  Nader's green party (supported by 1% of black Americans) cost Gore the 
  presidency. (sorry if the figures don't come out in the right columns on 
  everyone's computers)
  
  Cheers
  Rod
  -- Rod Hagen[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hurstbridge, Victoria, 
  AustraliaWWW 
http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen


Re: [recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush

2000-11-08 Thread paul vaughan




Just in case youve been in a shell for the past 12 hours thought i might 
just say that the presidency is still up for grabs Gore took back his 
concede of defeat and is opting for a recount.


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[recoznet2] Old white men vote in George Bush

2000-11-07 Thread Rod Hagen
Title: Old white men vote in George
Bush


Bush has been elected as the next
president of the US. As the following exit poll figures indicate this
is largely a victory won on the votes of the White American
male:

Race by
Sex All
Gore Bush
Buchanan
Nader
White
Males 48
% 36 %
60 % 0
%
 3 %
White Females
52 % 48 %
49 % 0
%
 2 %

Vote by
Race All
Gore Bush
Buchanan
Nader
White
 81
% 42 %
54 % 0
%
 3
%
African-American10 %
90 % 8
%  0 %
 1 %
Hispanic
 7
% 62 %
34 % 1
%
 2
%
Asian
 2
% 55 %
41 % 1
%
 3
%
Other
 1
% 56 %
38 % 0
%
 4
%

There is also
little doubt that Nader's green party (supported by 1% of black
Americans) cost Gore the presidency. (sorry if the figures don't come
out in the right columns on everyone's computers)

Cheers
Rod

-- 
Rod Hagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hurstbridge, Victoria, Australia
WWW http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen