Re: [Red5] Red5 in a OpenVZ virtual environment
Thank you for answering Tony. The firewall is turned off but after a reinstall of the hardware node I got Red5 running in a virtual environment! I think I missed a setting earlier in /etc/sysctl.conf but I'm not sure. The other good news is that it's possible to make a snapshot/backup with 'vzdump' while clients are connected to the Red5 server. OpenVZ 'pauses' for a few secs for this process but Transformers.flv keeps streaming. I'm curious what happens in a videoconference environment (no buffering)... On the other hand, OpenVZ doesn't pause at all if LVM2 (logical volume management) is used. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Tony Langdon (ATC) Verzonden: woensdag 20 juni 2007 5:21 Aan: 'Red5@osflash.org' Onderwerp: Re: [Red5] Red5 in a OpenVZ virtual environment Does anyone have experience with openvz and knowing how to open port 1935? Are you running the CentOS firewall by any chance? Try it with the firewall turned off. If that works, try opening that port in the CentOS firewall admin tool. I haven't dealt with OpenVZ at this level, but I do know that Red 5 works fine under Virtuozzo (the commercial version). ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Red5 W3C logging
Here you go http://www.electroteque.org/red5/logging/ untar org.tar.gz into your webapp src, its the org.red5 namespace i know thats bad it should change i might change it back to org.electroteque. the log4.xml example shows how to setup a log adaptor, ive been trying to model setting up logging for publishing points in windows media which are rooms in flash. It could just be named the scope name instead. The appender in the example requires log4j alpha because I needed the new rolling log functionality to name the files like in the example. Adding the new log4j alpha jar into the lib path if using eclipse requires placing it at the top of the build order because its clashing with an old log4j namespace contained in jetty or mina I'm not really sure but thats bad ! Im really unsure performance wise how it runs with alot of log adaptors loaded on startup ?? the red-web.xml shows setting up the statistics logging bean. The logging bean wont work unless you extend your app adaptor with LogApplicationAdapter which extends the ApplicationAdaptor to trigger the logging bean and its method on a stream close event. The actual work for adding the data to the log is in the VODStatistics class, I have not looked at it for a while because there are still many things broken with the statistics API and im not getting all the required data still. It required a complete custom log4j logger factory, layout. The logger automatically appends into the fields the event type and category to model FMS fields. A custom field layout can be placed into the log4j config however there is some issues setting the column seperator \t character it adds a literal \t instead of a tab. If adding more than just stop events, having the event name and category makes it much easier to use something like LogParser to filter the logs. We needed to model this so we can calculate bandwidth usage for a third party feed system which is what we have setup in windows media which has the W3C logging standard. I havent completed this project yet though. I'm not a 100% java developer so there is tonnes of room for improvement. Let me know how you go. Rebus wrote: Thanks Dan, That would be very nice. /Rebus -Original Message- From: Dan Rossi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 June 2007 00:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Red5 W3C logging Hi there ill zip you the code in a bit. Rebus wrote: Hi Dan, I've been reading around on the Red5 mailing list and found your messages about the w3c logging very interesting. I am also very interested in getting the logging work, and I'm wondering if you are planning to share what you have done on the logging? Maybe I can help on it? Regards, Rebus ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] Vacation Alert
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[Red5] java question: access to bean streamFilenameGenerator
Hi All, I going to read/modify attributes of bean streamFilenameGenerator during my application works. How I can access to this bean from my application. This bean declared in red5-core.xml bean id=streamFilenameGenerator class=...newFilenameGenerator property name=recordPath value=file:// / property name=playbackPath value=file://... / /bean Sergey N Lukin ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams
Hi Martijn, Tried to view from the States. The video played for 10 seconds and then stopped with the stopped icon being displayed. Flash Player version is 9.0.28 Regards, Lenny On 6/19/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To everybody who has network issues with the link I posted. Please give me details like: browser, flash player version, firewalls, etc. Network failures aren't logged if you can't reach the server. Mark, the problem is the I/O that's why I'm posting this. But I'm glad that FMS has the same problem ;). The only solution I can think about is the creation of a system which divides the load over multiple disks/systems. Expensive but effective. On 6/19/07, Mark de Jong [NetMasters BV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martijn, Be sure to check out the I/O of the server. We've had the same issues on a edge-server (yes, edge/origin) from a client from us and I/O was the bottleneck for this. They have a lot of seeking (and hundreds of files) and it was VERY I/O intensive. I don't now how Red5 handles this but it is worth checking this out first before going on to next steps. Kind regards, Mark de Jong Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Martijn van Beek Verzonden: maandag 18 juni 2007 10:32 Aan: Red5@osflash.org Onderwerp: Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem then appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all at a different position (in time). On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orion, On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data in the stream, perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could be clustered so that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each server, any server could pick up the stream and start serving it based on the metadata about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current position of buffers, stuff like that). Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client. But as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled task to push the VOD content to the client. I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the cluster if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the connection is of type RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the packets that will be sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO packets, invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to one of the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can be shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream objects. What do you think? Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of the internals of Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or both for which I apologize in advance. Steve, On 6/16/07, sharrissf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple people accessing it I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though I would need to know more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar with how they work and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in this case is essentially sharing the same stream so really only one instance ends up in each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user is only in the jvm where the person is connected. The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like what Remote SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it can be clustered by TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because (1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO. So much more data will be transfered across the nodes. (2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency will also arise and the real time requirement of live streaming is compromised. Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's practical will be decided by the application. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Load-balancing-for-live-streams-tf3926799.html#a111556 12
[Red5] Is SVN Red5 version is required to compile our applications ?
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[Red5] Not able to connect to my Red5 app from Flash 8 Editor but it's working from Flex2!
Hi Everyone,
I am facing a very strange issue. When i am trying to connect to my app(the
first app i have created going through an article Getting started with
RED5) from Flex2 as instructed in the sample i am able to connect to it
successfully.
But when i am trying to connect to this app from Flash 8 editor by a simple
code i.e.
var nc:NetConnection = new NetConnection();
nc.onStatus = function(info){
trace(status + info.description);
}
nc.connect(rtmp://localhost/firstapp);
It's returning status as undefined. Where as it's connecting successfully to
all other sample apps in Red5 from Flash 8 editor.
Is there anything i am missing?
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Re: [Red5] java question: access to bean streamFilenameGenerator
Hello Sergey,
Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 1:55:14 PM, you wrote:
Hi All,
I going to read/modify attributes of bean streamFilenameGenerator during my application works.
How I can access to this bean from my application.
This bean declared in red5-core.xml
bean id="streamFilenameGenerator" class="...newFilenameGenerator"
property name="recordPath" value="file://" /
property name="playbackPath" value="file://..." /
/bean
Sergey N Lukin
Are you familiar with Spring concepts?
You may wire that bean via your spring config, or may get it explicitly from code (where you have access to the IContext instance - e.g., your red5 application main class)
public class MyApp extends ApplicationAdapter {
...
StreamFilenameGenerator sfGen = getContext().getBean("streamFilenameGenerator");
}
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Re: [Red5] Installation Estimate
Hello David, Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 4:46:53 AM, you wrote: Greetings everyone, I'm new to the list, I program PHP and ActionScript, but I have never touched any Java, and I am too swamped in work to set up Red5 myself. Since my employer needs both streaming FLV's and an XMLSocket Server, we are hoping to hire a Java programmer on a contract basis to set up Red5 for us. My question is: how difficult is the setup for an experienced Java person? What would be a reasonable time estimate to do this on a contract basis? Also, can the server listen only for FLV file and XMLSocket requests, without interfering with Apache? (I'm assuming this is trivial but as a newbie I feel the need to ask...) Thanks for any help you can give me, Red5 looks like amazing software! ~David ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org According to my own experience (9 years of java), expect a day for installation and a week for a tuning. -- Best regards, Alexeymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams
At the moment we have a stress test with 400 visits per quarter and things looks great. But there are (like Lenny) moments that Red5 stops delivering data to clients with a few possible errors (hard to say which error is for which failure at the client): Error 1: [ERROR] 173542520 pool-3-thread-2:( ServiceInvoker.invoke ) Error executing call: Service: null Method: seek Num Params: 10: NaN [ERROR] 173542520 pool-3-thread-2:( ServiceInvoker.invoke ) Service invocation error java.lang.IllegalArgumentException at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor110.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke( DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) at org.red5.server.service.ServiceInvoker.invoke(ServiceInvoker.java :181) at org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPHandler.invokeCall(RTMPHandler.java :173) at org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPHandler.onInvoke(RTMPHandler.java :354) at org.red5.server.net.rtmp.BaseRTMPHandler.messageReceived( BaseRTMPHandler.java:143) at org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler.messageReceived( RTMPMinaIoHandler.java:120) at org.apache.mina.common.support.AbstractIoFilterChain$TailFilter.messageReceived (AbstractIoFilterChain.java:703) at org.apache.mina.common.support.AbstractIoFilterChain.callNextMessageReceived (AbstractIoFilterChain.java:362) at org.apache.mina.common.support.AbstractIoFilterChain.access$1100( AbstractIoFilterChain.java:54) at org.apache.mina.common.support.AbstractIoFilterChain$EntryImpl$1.messageReceived (AbstractIoFilterChain.java:800) at org.apache.mina.filter.executor.ExecutorFilter.processEvent( ExecutorFilter.java:247) at org.apache.mina.filter.executor.ExecutorFilter$ProcessEventsRunnable.run( ExecutorFilter.java:307) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask( ThreadPoolExecutor.java:885) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run( ThreadPoolExecutor.java:907) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Error 2: [WARN] 173566318 DefaultQuartzScheduler_Worker-1:( RTMPConnection.execute ) Closing RTMPMinaConnection from 81.207.230.24:11793 to yamvideo.com (in: 3758, out: 452987) due to too much inactivity (1182345305569). Error 1 could relate to the NaN value it recieves Error 2 is completely strange to me I'll keep you posted here while i monitor the logs On 6/20/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martijn, Tried to view from the States. The video played for 10 seconds and then stopped with the stopped icon being displayed. Flash Player version is 9.0.28 Regards, Lenny On 6/19/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To everybody who has network issues with the link I posted. Please give me details like: browser, flash player version, firewalls, etc. Network failures aren't logged if you can't reach the server. Mark, the problem is the I/O that's why I'm posting this. But I'm glad that FMS has the same problem ;). The only solution I can think about is the creation of a system which divides the load over multiple disks/systems. Expensive but effective. On 6/19/07, Mark de Jong [NetMasters BV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martijn, Be sure to check out the I/O of the server. We've had the same issues on a edge-server (yes, edge/origin) from a client from us and I/O was the bottleneck for this. They have a lot of seeking (and hundreds of files) and it was VERY I/O intensive. I don't now how Red5 handles this but it is worth checking this out first before going on to next steps. Kind regards, Mark de Jong Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Martijn van Beek Verzonden: maandag 18 juni 2007 10:32 Aan: Red5@osflash.org Onderwerp: Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem then appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all at a different position (in time). On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orion, On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data in the stream, perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could be clustered so that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each server, any server could pick up the stream and start serving it based on the metadata about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current position of buffers, stuff like that). Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client. But as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled task to push the VOD content to the
Re: [Red5] Build Failed!!!.
Hello Vivek, Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 8:37:38 PM, you wrote: Hi Everyone, I am a newbie to Red5, Apache-Ant server and Java as well. I have done development work in FMS for quite sometime. So few months back i thought of trying to try Red5. I tried very hard but here is some problem i am facing i am not sure if it's of any concern for Red5 functioning. I installed Apache-Ant server, Jdk 1.5.0_09. Configured Java_home and Ant_home etc as instructed in Readme file inside Red5 installation. Then i executed Red5 server on Ant and got following output. E:\Program Files\Red5ant server Buildfile: build.xml [echo] java.home is E:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre and the target version is 1.5 server: [echo] java.home is E:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre and the target version is 1.5 -java6.check: -junit.check: prepare: [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\bin [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\dist [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\bin\testcases [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\bin\testcases\testreports [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\admin\WEB-INF\classes [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\admin\WEB-INF\lib [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\echo\WEB-INF\classes [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\fitcDemo\WEB-INF\classes [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\midiDemo\WEB-INF\classes [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\oflaDemo\WEB-INF\classes [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\test\WEB-INF\classes [mkdir] Created dir: E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\tutorial\WEB-INF\classes compile: [echo] Javac version: 1.5 [echo] Compiler adapter name: modern [echo] java.home is E:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre and the target version is 1.5 compile_core: [echo] java.home is E:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre and the target version is 1.5 compile_core_compatibility: [javac] Compiling 407 source files to E:\Program Files\Red5\bin [javac] Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations. [javac] Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details. [echo] java.home is E:\Progra~1\Java\jdk1.5.0_09\jre and the target version is 1.5 prepare: compile_demos: BUILD FAILED E:\Program Files\Red5\build.xml:653: The following error occurred while executing this line: E:\Program Files\Red5\build.xml:129: The following error occurred while executing this line: E:\Program Files\Red5\build.xml:153: srcdir "E:\Program Files\Red5\webapps\admin\WEB-INF\src" does not exist! Does this output make any effect on Red5 functioning. I have tried few demo files and they are working fine. Any pointer? I also tried Red5 batch file from start menu. It's giving me a lot of trace values in Command window and in the end it says Wrapper Stopped. Is it intended to behave like that? I am very confused with these outputs. Please help me with some guidelines on any informative website where i can learn how to create my first real test app on Red5. Thanks Vivek Lakhanpal. That's because red5 build script builds example webapps together with the server itself by default. And it seems that someone (possibly you?) has removed sources of that demos. If you are a newbie, try to reinstall red5. -- Best regards, Alexey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] java question: access to bean streamFilenameGenerator
Hi Alex,
Thanks for your help, I think I have some gaps in Spring framework.
Sergey N Lukin
On 6/20/07, Alexey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Sergey,
Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 1:55:14 PM, you wrote:
Hi All,
I going to read/modify attributes of bean streamFilenameGenerator during
my application works.
How I can access to this bean from my application.
This bean declared in red5-core.xml
bean id=streamFilenameGenerator
class=...newFilenameGenerator
property name=recordPath value=file:// /
property name=playbackPath value=file://... /
/bean
Sergey N Lukin
Are you familiar with Spring concepts?
You may wire that bean via your spring config, or may get it explicitly
from code (where you have access to the IContext instance - e.g., your
red5 application main class)
public class MyApp extends ApplicationAdapter {
...
StreamFilenameGenerator sfGen =
getContext().getBean(streamFilenameGenerator);
}
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[Red5] Startup JMX problem
Ok guys, I dont know why but the JMX registry take 60 seconds to startup. I use the same settings as before and have the actual trunk. Ok, currently i dont need the jmx, can i deactivate this startup blocker? cu nomIad ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Insufficient BW, or client config?
I've noticed that red5 0.6.0 couldn't play VP6 flv's nicely after upgrading everything was fine, cheers, martijn On 6/20/07, Ben H Kram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joachim, Publishing from disk works fine - this is only happening with a 'live' stream. Rodrigo - I've getting the same issue as you noted in your ticket, but I didn't see an exception go by on the server side. I'm using Digital Rapids Stream to broadcast a VP6 stream to red5. cheers, ben On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 01:28:27AM +0200, Joachim Bauch wrote: Hi Ben, Ben H Kram schrieb: I'm streaming a VP6 flv to our red5 server - a 160Kb stream. There is at least 3MB from the encoder to the red5 server, and the same from the red5 server to my client. However - the video is much less than 1fps - more like 7spf, except once in a while it will play as you'd hope for a second. Stored flvs play fine. are you publishing a FLV from disk to Red5? If yes, could you please send the file to me or provide a download link so I can try to reproduce locally? You could also add the informations to the ticket Rodrigo created: http://jira.red5.org/browse/APPSERVER-148 Thanks, Joachim -- Benjamin Kram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617.998.8592 ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Startup JMX problem
Hello nomIad, Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 5:58:49 PM, you wrote: Ok guys, I dont know why but the JMX registry take 60 seconds to startup. I use the same settings as before and have the actual trunk. Ok, currently i dont need the jmx, can i deactivate this startup blocker? cu nomIad ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org E.g., disable rmi adapter (red5-core.xml) bean id=jmxAgent class=org.red5.server.jmx.JMXAgent init-method=init !-- The RMI adapter allows remote connections to the MBeanServer -- property name=enableRmiAdapter value=false / ... /bean -- Best regards, Alexeymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] Book suggestions
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Re: [Red5] Startup JMX problem
yeeehaa, thanks and dont take startup blocker to personal. The startup time is now reduced to awesome 6 seconds ;-) cu nomIad Mondain schrieb: Try setting the startRegistry and enableRmiAdapter options on the jmxAgent bean to false in the red5-common.xml. This will effectively disable most of the jmx system, it cannot currently be completely disabled. As for the startup blocker comment.. thanks :) Paul On 6/20/07, *nomIad* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok guys, I dont know why but the JMX registry take 60 seconds to startup. I use the same settings as before and have the actual trunk. Ok, currently i dont need the jmx, can i deactivate this startup blocker? cu nomIad ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org mailto:Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org -- It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Insufficient BW, or client config?
Martijn, Sure - although I'm not convinced it is a performance issue. System: SunOS 5.10 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-60 Java: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05) cheers, ben On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:29:25PM +0200, Martijn van Beek wrote: hmm strange at my setup it was resolved. Which java version, OS, etc maybe some combinations can kill performance On 6/20/07, Ben H Kram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, I'm using red5-0.6.2. cheers, ben On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:03:29PM +0200, Martijn van Beek wrote: I've noticed that red5 0.6.0 couldn't play VP6 flv's nicely after upgrading everything was fine, cheers, martijn ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org -- Benjamin Kram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617.998.8592 ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Installation Estimate
David, I do not know what do you expect exactly from Red5, so treat the 'week' as a very rough middle (installation, reading docs and sources and basic prod tuning)). If you only need to setup-and-run, a day is enough. If you need to develop custom features - it takes time to understand the inner world of Red5stuff. If you gonna use it in production with maximum effect - it will require logging, memory, pools etc. tuning most of which requires deep understanding of Red5 as well. Alexey wrote: According to my own experience (9 years of java), expect a day for installation and a week for a tuning. Hi Alexey - when you say a week, do you mean a few hours here and there from the Java programmer, while I test how things are running, or do you mean a 40 hour work week of nonstop programming from the Java programmer (which sounds much more expensive). Thanks!!! ~David ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org -- Best regards, Alexeymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] Dan Rossi
Dan, can you contact me at dominick at infrared5 doc com . Thanks -- Dominick Accattato, CTO Infrared5 Inc. www.infrared5.com ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Installation Estimate
Hello Alexey, I have two rather separate needs: 1. Ability to stream FLV files and connect to the streaming files via an FLV player that I have coded in ActionScript. 2. Ability to connect to an XMLSocketServer, so that I can program a Flash ActionScript chat application, and interactive online games, such as Texas Hold'Em (poker). Does this help? ~David Alexey wrote: David, I do not know what do you expect exactly from Red5, so treat the 'week' as a very rough middle (installation, reading docs and sources and basic prod tuning)). If you only need to setup-and-run, a day is enough. If you need to develop custom features - it takes time to understand the inner world of Red5stuff. If you gonna use it in production with maximum effect - it will require logging, memory, pools etc. tuning most of which requires deep understanding of Red5 as well. ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Insufficient BW, or client config?
Our tests were done with 0.61, Will try with this release ans see if something changed Rodrigo O Xnet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben H Kram Sent: Miércoles, 20 de Junio de 2007 07:58 a.m. To: Red5@osflash.org Subject: Re: [Red5] Insufficient BW, or client config? Joachim, Publishing from disk works fine - this is only happening with a 'live' stream. Rodrigo - I've getting the same issue as you noted in your ticket, but I didn't see an exception go by on the server side. I'm using Digital Rapids Stream to broadcast a VP6 stream to red5. cheers, ben On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 01:28:27AM +0200, Joachim Bauch wrote: Hi Ben, Ben H Kram schrieb: I'm streaming a VP6 flv to our red5 server - a 160Kb stream. There is at least 3MB from the encoder to the red5 server, and the same from the red5 server to my client. However - the video is much less than 1fps - more like 7spf, except once in a while it will play as you'd hope for a second. Stored flvs play fine. are you publishing a FLV from disk to Red5? If yes, could you please send the file to me or provide a download link so I can try to reproduce locally? You could also add the informations to the ticket Rodrigo created: http://jira.red5.org/browse/APPSERVER-148 Thanks, Joachim -- Benjamin Kram [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617.998.8592 ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] Is Red5 instead of Adobe LiveSycle?
hello, as far as I understand, Red5 could be used instead of LiveCycle Data Services. Am I right? Is this the main purpose of Red5? Please clarify. Thank you Gene ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Is Red5 instead of Adobe LiveSycle?
n 6/20/07, Evgeniy Strokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, as far as I understand, Red5 could be used instead of LiveCycle Data Services. Am I right? Yes! That's correct. Full support will be coming soon. Joachim just got mx:RemoteObject is working in the trunk So far we have only implemented the messages that are used when invoking remoting methods. however, the rest of it will come soon, and will be released with the next major release. Is this the main purpose of Red5? Please clarify. No, it's not the main purpose of Red5, but it's certainly one of them. Most users are taking advantage of the media streaming aspects of the server, like video and audio streaming, both on demand and client to client. Red5 supports shared objects, so building multi player games and text chat applications is relatively easy. Red5 can be also used for Flash remoting, XML-RPC, and can easily tap into any existing API written for Java. I like to think of Red5 as a bridge for the Flash Platform. Whether it's streaming video, passing AMF objects over http or sending Midi data from the Java sound API, it's always doing the job of linking Flash to the outside world. Thank you No Problem! Let us know if you have more questions. -Chris ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Is Red5 instead of Adobe LiveSycle?
Chris, are you planning implementing messaging and data management support in Red5? João Fernandes ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Problem with RTMPT
when I try to connect, red5 log shows that:java.lang.NullPointerException at org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.RTMPTConnection.init(RTMPTConnection.java:93) at org.red5.server.net.servlet.RTMPTServlet.handleOpen(RTMPTServlet.java:234) at org.red5.server.net.servlet.RTMPTServlet.service(RTMPTServlet.java:382) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:856)at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:445) at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:356) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:627) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandlerCollection.handle(ContextHandlerCollection.java:149) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerCollection.handle(HandlerCollection.java:123) at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:141) at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:269)at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:430) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.content(HttpConnection.java:701) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:617) at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:199)at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:339)at org.mortbay.jetty.nio.HttpChannelEndPoint.run(HttpChannelEndPoint.java:270) at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(BoundedThreadPool.java:475)Please help!!thanksFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:54:56 +0200Subject: [Red5] Problem with RTMPT Hi, i have a problem with RTMPT setting. I change red5.properties in this way:rtmp.host_port = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1935debug_proxy.host_port = 0.0.0.0:1936proxy_forward.host_port = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1935rtmps.host_port = 127.0.0.1:1945http.host=0.0.0.0http.port=5080rtmpt.host=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxrtmpt.port=80(I use xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx instead of my real ip address)then I set red5-web.properties of my red5 application in this way:webapp.contextPath=/myAppwebapp.virtualHosts=*,xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1935, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80I correctly started RED5 and It works with rtmp connection but when I try rtmpt using 80 I have no connection. There is no other process set for the port 80. Can you help me?ThanksPush the button! Crea il tuo blog e fatti vedere! Windows Live Spaces _ Sai cosa è successo oggi? http://notizie.msn.it___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams
Martijn, What are you using for your stress test regarding your app producing 400 connections? Thanks, Lenny On 6/20/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martijn, Tried to view from the States. The video played for 10 seconds and then stopped with the stopped icon being displayed. Flash Player version is 9.0.28 Regards, Lenny On 6/19/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To everybody who has network issues with the link I posted. Please give me details like: browser, flash player version, firewalls, etc. Network failures aren't logged if you can't reach the server. Mark, the problem is the I/O that's why I'm posting this. But I'm glad that FMS has the same problem ;). The only solution I can think about is the creation of a system which divides the load over multiple disks/systems. Expensive but effective. On 6/19/07, Mark de Jong [NetMasters BV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martijn, Be sure to check out the I/O of the server. We've had the same issues on a edge-server (yes, edge/origin) from a client from us and I/O was the bottleneck for this. They have a lot of seeking (and hundreds of files) and it was VERY I/O intensive. I don't now how Red5 handles this but it is worth checking this out first before going on to next steps. Kind regards, Mark de Jong Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Martijn van Beek Verzonden: maandag 18 juni 2007 10:32 Aan: Red5@osflash.org Onderwerp: Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem then appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all at a different position (in time). On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orion, On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data in the stream, perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could be clustered so that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each server, any server could pick up the stream and start serving it based on the metadata about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current position of buffers, stuff like that). Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client. But as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled task to push the VOD content to the client. I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the cluster if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the connection is of type RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the packets that will be sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO packets, invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to one of the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can be shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream objects. What do you think? Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of the internals of Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or both for which I apologize in advance. Steve, On 6/16/07, sharrissf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple people accessing it I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though I would need to know more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar with how they work and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in this case is essentially sharing the same stream so really only one instance ends up in each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user is only in the jvm where the person is connected. The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like what Remote SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it can be clustered by TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because (1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO. So much more data will be transfered across the nodes. (2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency will also arise and the real time requirement of live streaming is
[Red5] red5 info
Hi I am thinking about creating application which would use red5 server. Is there an information about how many users could be connected to the server so it runs satisfying? Let we say we have simple chat/game application. How many people could be connected to server (2MHz, 1024MB ram, internet: 100Mb red5 installed )? Someone has those numbers? Are we talking about 100, 1000, 1 or even more connections? Is there a possibility to connect more servers together so we would be able to have more active connections? Any information would be appreciated! Thanks in advance! Regards, Klemen Nagode ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Flex RemoteObject testers needed
Joachim, After building and testing through RemoteObject button with echo-test I get the following: Connecting through remoteObject using AMF3... Testing null: Error received: Send failed But when I test via RTMP AMF3 button, I get the following success items: Testing 1: OK (1) Testing [object Object]: OK ([object Object]) Testing [object Object],[object Object]: OK ([object Object],[object Object]) Testing Wed Jun 20 15:54:06 GMT-0600 2007: OK (Wed Jun 20 15:54:06 GMT-0600 2007) Testing Wed Jun 20 15:54:06 GMT-0600 2007,Wed Jun 20 15:54:06 GMT-0600 2007: OK (Wed Jun 20 15:54:06 GMT-0600 2007,Wed Jun 20 15:54:06 GMT-0600 2007) Testing [object EchoClass]: OK ([object Object]) Testing [object EchoClass],[object EchoClass],[object RemoteClass]: OK ([object Object],[object Object],[object RemoteClass]) Testing [object RemoteClass]: OK ([object RemoteClass]) Testing [object RemoteClass]: OK ([object RemoteClass]) Testing [object ExternalizableClass]: OK ([object ExternalizableClass]) Testing [object ExternalizableClass],[object ExternalizableClass]: OK ([object ExternalizableClass],[object ExternalizableClass]) Successfully ran 35 tests NetConnection.Connect.Closed Do I need to do anything in particular to Echo-test.msml or any of the .as scripts to test the RemoteObject button to get a positive response. I am using Tomcat 5.5.20 for my RED5 testing. Thanks, Lenny On 6/19/07, Joachim Bauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, the trunk now supports Flex remoting requests sent through a RemoteObject. I could only test with a basic echo service, that's why I'm asking for a few people to run your apps against the new code to see what's missing or not working properly ;) To enable RemoteObject support for your application, check out the echo webapp in the repository for new beans that need to be set up. Thanks, Joachim ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] hi!
Hello Red5 users! This is my first post here so I want to take this opportunity to send a big THANK YOU! to the development team. Just installed the latest 0.6.2 final on XP SP2 and I get: WrapperSimpleApp: Encountered an error running main: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.red5.server.stream.BalancedFlowControlService INFO | jvm 1| 2007/06/20 23:08:22 | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.red5.server.stream.BalancedFlowControlService And the service stops within 5 seconds from start. The prev 0.6.1 was running fine. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! cosmin ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Problem with RTMPT
Hi Gianni, Gianni Inguscio schrieb: when I try to connect, red5 log shows that: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.RTMPTConnection.init(RTMPTConnection.java:93) which version of Red5 are you using? This line doesn't exist in the latest version 0.6.2 (or better can't cause a NPE). Joachim ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Flex RemoteObject testers needed
Hi Lenny, Lenny Sorey schrieb: After building and testing through RemoteObject button with echo-test I get the following: Connecting through remoteObject using AMF3... Testing null: Error received: Send failed [...] I am using Tomcat 5.5.20 for my RED5 testing. if you're running from Tomcat, you probably need to adjust the HTTP URL in the test. It's set to http://localhost:5080/oflaDemo/gateway by default, maybe you will have to change it to http://localhost:5080/red5/oflaDemo/gateway or whatever URL you use to access Red5. If you open the URL in your browser, you should see a message Red5 : Remoting Gateway. I will try to setup a Tomcat environment here and test it, too. Joachim ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Problem with RTMPT
I have installed red5 0.6.1. I have to install apache to using rtmpt with port 80? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:48:36 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Red5@osflash.org Subject: Re: [Red5] Problem with RTMPT Hi Gianni, Gianni Inguscio schrieb: when I try to connect, red5 log shows that: java.lang.NullPointerException at org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.RTMPTConnection.init(RTMPTConnection.java:93) which version of Red5 are you using? This line doesn't exist in the latest version 0.6.2 (or better can't cause a NPE). Joachim ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org _ C'è una nuova amica su Messenger… E' Doretta, vieni a conoscerla! http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] Migrating FCS app to Red5
Hi Guys,
I'm looking to migrate an existing FMS app to Red5 and I have a lot of
server-side actionscript code that I need to port. I've seen some of the
tutorials available out there, but I still have a few questions. Here we go:
1. Have the FCS / FMS server-side components been ported to work with Red5?
Is this code available anywhere? I'd like to use it as a reference.
2. Any plans on providing scripting support? I know I've seen something about
this in the trunk... is it ready for prime time?
3. I'm doing some remoting with a .net service... the code looks like this:
NetServices.setDefaultGatewayUrl(defaultGatewayUrl);var remoteGateway =
NetServices.createGatewayConnection();var remoteService =
remoteGateway.getService(serviceName, this);
remoteService.functionCall(...);
functionCall_result(obj)
{
code
}
How does one do this in Red5?
So any helpful suggestions to get me going would help greatly. Thanks!
-Costin
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Re: [Red5] Build Failed!!!.
Thanks for the reply Alexy, So does that means i don't have to execute them on Ant server as i did like: E:\Program Files\Red5ant server? And if not where does this command comes into play? -- Thanks Regards, Vivek Lakhanpal. Phone: +91-987-608-2125 (India) Skype ID: lakhanpalv Website: http://viveklakhanpal.spaces.live.com ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Book suggestions
Thanks a lot for the tips Paul! Marcelo. On 6/20/07, Mondain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your in luck as far as Ruby is concerned, there are example application scripts for the ofla demo in Ruby in the java\server\trunk\webapps\oflaDemo\WEB-INF\src\applications directory. There is a how to in the docs directory as well HOWTO-Scripting.txt. Now for java book suggestions that will help you with Red5, I suggest: a href=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764568744?ie=UTF8tag=gregoireorg-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=0764568744;Ivor Horton's Beginning Java 2, JDK 5 Edition/aimg src= http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=gregoireorg-20l=as2o=1a=0764568744; width=1 height=1 border=0 alt= style=border:none !important; margin:0px !important; / a href=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932394354?ie=UTF8tag=gregoireorg-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=1932394354 Spring in Action (In Action series)/aimg src=http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=gregoireorg-20l=as2o=1a=1932394354 width=1 height=1 border=0 alt= style=border:none !important; margin:0px !important; / a href=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321349601?ie=UTF8tag=gregoireorg-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=0321349601;Java Concurrency in Practice/aimg src= http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=gregoireorg-20l=as2o=1a=0321349601; width=1 height=1 border=0 alt= style=border:none !important; margin:0px !important; / Paul On 6/20/07, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm a web developer with experience in Flash and Flash Remoting for PHP (AMFPHP) as well as RoR. My current project uses Ruby on Rails as its framework, but some parts of this website aim to be a very intensive real-time multimedia communication platform. For this in particular we would like to use Flex for the client and Red5 for server side. We have little experience with java and the java web development model. I would like to know what books you would recommend for starting (with red5 in mind, of course). Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance, Marcelo. ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org -- It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. - Voltaire ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
[Red5] Forums back up
Hello every one The Red 5 Forums are back up. We shut them down to improve the security. We have a newer forums set up now. http://www.shocksites.com/forum I still need to add some things like the header and others to the system but if any one has suggestions or finds any errors please let me know. Thanks - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
Re: [Red5] Forums back up
I would prefer a red5 group conference chat rather than forum. The mailing list serves that purpose nicely, and I think its searchable via google ? I hear there is an IRC channel aswell correct ? Hipolito Troy wrote: Hello every one The Red 5 Forums are back up. We shut them down to improve the security. We have a newer forums set up now. http://www.shocksites.com/forum I still need to add some things like the header and others to the system but if any one has suggestions or finds any errors please let me know. Thanks Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47093/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222to see what's on, when. ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org ___ Red5 mailing list Red5@osflash.org http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org
