Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

The connection is not related to eclipse or terracotta. Please check the
configuration of red5-edge-core.xml, the bean config of MRTMPClient to see
if you have configured the host correctly. The default value is localhost.

On 9/10/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks like with an edge running locally via eclipse, connecting to a
 terracotta also ran via eclipse, it wont connect to a remote origin server.
 I even turned off the firewall.
 On 08/09/2007, at 11:39 PM, Daniel Rossi wrote:

 Here is the step ive taken with the cluster branch in eclipse though for
 debugging
 Requires terracotta eclipse plugin.

 1. Create terracotta nature for project
 2.  Choose tc-config.xml in the nature dialog
 3. install the entire terracotta directory into the root of the cluster
 project
 4.  it requires some bootstrap jar created, which can be done by doing
 right click project - terracotta - build bootjar
 5. right click red5_server_cluster , terracotta , servers , localhost to
 start terracotta
 6. Create red5 origin debug profile with just org.red5.server.Standalonein 
 the main class section
 7. Create red5 edge debug profile with org.red5.server.Standalone in the
 class section, red5-edge.xml in the program arguments section, -
 Dtc.install-root=terracotta/
 -Xbootclasspath/p:.
 -Dtc.config=tc-config-edge.xml

 in the JVM arguments section.

 8. start red5 origin debug profile, then edge / terracotta debug profile.


 If i choose to connect to the terracotta admin console on localhost and
 port 9520 nothing shows up ?


 On 08/09/2007, at 11:12 PM, Lenny Sorey wrote:

 Steven,

 Thanks for your response.

 Lenny


 On 9/8/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Lenny,
 
  On 9/8/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Hi Steven,
  
   Apologies for asking because I am sure it is somewhere in the list,
   but would you mind pointing me again to the setup docs for Origin /
   Edge / Terracotta.
  
 
  No problem. Here's the steps I wrote last time:
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it soon.
  Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin server and one Edge
  server. (Of course, it should work for one Origin and several Edges. But I
  have never tried it. :-) ) The Edge server is accessed by RTMPT. The RTMP
  Edge support will be added after the Edge/Origin with Terracotta prototype
  is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument red5-edge.xml
  (4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
  rtmpt://localhost:8088 /oflaDemo
 
  The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can modify
  the server property of mrtmpClient bean in  red5-edge-core.xml  to
  set the address of Origin server.
 
 
  I will write a full doc on wiki these days.
 
   I have some time this weekend so I would like to set up this on three
   machines
   via using Win2K, Tomcat  / Apache / Terracotta
  
 
  That's great! Thanks a lot.
 
 
   Thanks,
  
   Lenny
  
  
On 9/8/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
   
   
On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Well i cant see any debug info of the connection stuff even though
 ive set INFO to mrtmp. I shut down the origin, and yes give it a 
 minute or
 so the stream stops. Thats possibly not a good thing requiring a 
 couple of
 origin servers just in case one machine dies :) What do you think  ?

   
The final solution will support the fail-over of Origins.
   
   
 Well thanks for your help its working for me locally, but running
 stuff via eclipse and the edge is configured with terracotta, though 
 dont i
 have to run terracotta manually first aswell ?

   
Yes, of course. :-)
   
   
On 08/09/2007, at 9:46 PM, Steven Gong wrote:



 On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Ok did some research, some people on this list have had it
  before its a VM specific error and is ignorable, though i still 
  cant work
  out if the edge is actually connecting, cant see much debug info 
  for it, and
  if i shut down the origin its still running as normal ie the video 
  is still
  playing.
 

 Don't know the reason why the video is still playing when you
 shutdown the origin. Maybe the video file is already cached on the 
 client.
 The client won't be disconnected when you shutdown the Origin because 
 the
 client connects to Edge.


  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JETTY-227
 
 
  Its a constant error though.
 
 
   On 08/09/2007, at 9:26 PM, Daniel Rossi wrote:
 
   Ok tried a few things,
 
  Setup a edge / terracotta debug profile with vm args
 
 
  -Dtc.install-root=terracotta

[Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

Hi all,
Orion, Tim and I had a meeting discussing the current status and future plan
of Red5 Edge/Origin with Terracotta integration. Below is the detail.
(1) Deadlock issue: Orion and Tim explained the auto-lock concept to me and
helped to solve the deadlock issue caused by misconfiguration of auto-locks.
Now the Edge/Origin Red5 won't get deadlocked on Terracotta.
(2) Performance test and tuning: We plan to do performance test and tuning
in the next step to verify the design and implementation of the Edge/Origin
prototype. Orion and Tim gave some advice on how to do performance test and
tuning on Terracotta. Orion will also provide several online HW resources
for the test. This is very helpful for clustering performance test when
several machines are available to setup the server environment. Great thanks
to Orion and other Terracotta guys to make this happen!

So we will move forward to test the prototype and do the enhancement
afterwards.

To all the Red5 users,
Now you can try to run Edge/Origin prototype on Terracotta. Theoretically
you can run all the servers on one machine: Edge, Origin and Terracotta
server. But the recommended configuration is to put each server to their own
machine, especially the Terracotta server.
To run the servers, the only difference from the version without Terracotta
is that you need to start the Edge on Terracotta with the configuration file
tc-config-edge.xml in the root dir of the clustering branch.
Feel free to report issues during your experiment. Thanks!

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Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

Only Origin needs to connect to the file server in this prototype and now
only one Origin is supported. The load-balancer is connected to Edges. So if
you have 5 machines, you can use one as Origin, one as Terracotta server,
one as load-balancer and 2 as Edges.

On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry me again, with this configuration, we have 5 clustered machines
 connecting to a NAS, what would be the best configuration for this in this
 scenario ? One machine is the origin and not attached to the load balancer
 which is also running terracotta, 4 machines running as the frontend edge
 machines and attached to the load balancer ?  They are all running 3G P4's
 and 2G of ram.  Is it possible to run the cluster files from the NAS storage
 itself rather than having seperate set of files on  each machine ? This
 means i just need to update it in one spot, but not sure if that will affect
 performance, especially for reads for the files. I am finding some errors at
 times where there is network issues getting the files for some reason.
 On 08/09/2007, at 7:44 PM, Steven Gong wrote:

 Hi all,
 Orion, Tim and I had a meeting discussing the current status and future
 plan of Red5 Edge/Origin with Terracotta integration. Below is the detail.
 (1) Deadlock issue: Orion and Tim explained the auto-lock concept to me
 and helped to solve the deadlock issue caused by misconfiguration of
 auto-locks. Now the Edge/Origin Red5 won't get deadlocked on Terracotta.
 (2) Performance test and tuning: We plan to do performance test and tuning
 in the next step to verify the design and implementation of the Edge/Origin
 prototype. Orion and Tim gave some advice on how to do performance test and
 tuning on Terracotta. Orion will also provide several online HW resources
 for the test. This is very helpful for clustering performance test when
 several machines are available to setup the server environment. Great thanks
 to Orion and other Terracotta guys to make this happen!

 So we will move forward to test the prototype and do the enhancement
 afterwards.

 To all the Red5 users,
 Now you can try to run Edge/Origin prototype on Terracotta. Theoretically
 you can run all the servers on one machine: Edge, Origin and Terracotta
 server. But the recommended configuration is to put each server to their own
 machine, especially the Terracotta server.
 To run the servers, the only difference from the version without
 Terracotta is that you need to start the Edge on Terracotta with the
 configuration file tc-config-edge.xml in the root dir of the clustering
 branch.
 Feel free to report issues during your experiment. Thanks!

 --
 Best Regards
 Steven Gong

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Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

I don't think that's possible as no RTMPT port is opened on Origin. The
Origin only opens the MRTMP port (9035 by default).

On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm getting  a port conflict trying to run both the edge and origin
 from the same checkout, so do i have to make a copy and change the
 rtmpt port for the origin like i had to do before ?

 On 08/09/2007, at 8:05 PM, Daniel Rossi wrote:

 
  On 08/09/2007, at 7:44 PM, Steven Gong wrote:
 
 
  To run the servers, the only difference from the version without
  Terracotta is that you need to start the Edge on Terracotta with
  the configuration file tc-config-edge.xml in the root dir of the
  clustering branch.
  Feel free to report issues during your experiment. Thanks!
 
 
  This doesnt make sense, is these rc scripts correct ?
 
  #edge
  exec $JAVA -Djava.security.manager -Djava.security.policy=conf/
  red5.policy -cp red5.jar:conf:$CLASSPATH org.red5.server.Standalone
  conf/red5-edge.xml
 
  #origin
  exec $JAVA -Djava.security.manager -Djava.security.policy=conf/
  red5.policy -cp red5.jar:conf:$CLASSPATH org.red5.server.Standalone
 
 
 
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Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

Dan,
I've never met the error you got. Make sure that you start the Origin before
Edge.

On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry steve, i had to put in the arguments tab obviouslly :)
 red5-edge.xml

 This is working via eclipse, so ill just use the debug profiles i setup
 for now. Though im guessing to implement the terracotta stuff into the edge,
 ill have to include more stuff into the edge profile ?


 Actually i just got these errors after a while, though the app connected.
 Maybe its connecting to the origin ?

 ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
 java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(
 KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
 at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
 [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
 java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(
 KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
 at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
 [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
 java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
 at java.nio.channels.SelectionKey.isAcceptable(SelectionKey.java:342)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:337)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
 at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
 [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
 java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(
 KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
 at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)



 On 08/09/2007, at 8:18 PM, Steven Gong wrote:

 Sorry that I have only run the servers inside Eclipse and haven't updated
 the scripts yet. The Edge can be started by passing red-edge.xml as
 parameter, the conf/ prefix is not needed.

 To start the Edge on Terracotta, you can follow the tutorials from
 terracotta site www.terracotta.org. Basically
 On linux:
 ${JAVA_HOME}/bin/java 
 -Dtc.install-root=${TC_HOME}-Xbootclasspath/p:dso-boot-jar-path -
 Dtc.config=tc-config-path startup-classname
 And on windows:
 %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java 
 -Dtc.install-root=${TC_HOME}-Xbootclasspath/p:dso-boot-jar-path -
 Dtc.config=tc-config-path startup-classname

 On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 
  On 08/09/2007, at 7:44 PM, Steven Gong wrote:
 
  
   To run the servers, the only difference from the version without
   Terracotta is that you need to start the Edge on Terracotta with
   the configuration file tc-config-edge.xml in the root dir

Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 08/09/2007, at 8:10 PM, Steven Gong wrote:

 Only Origin needs to connect to the file server in this prototype and now
 only one Origin is supported. The load-balancer is connected to Edges. So if
 you have 5 machines, you can use one as Origin, one as Terracotta server,
 one as load-balancer and 2 as Edges.


 Ok so no need to use a network switch load balancer, its done via
 terracotta ?


A generic HTTP load-balancer is needed (but not mandatory) and it's not part
of the feature of terracotta. Terracotta only makes sure the state of
connections are shared by all Edges.

I still cant get it connected

 rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo

 (314) Connections: true | true
 (13863) connected?: true
 (76961) NetConnection.onStatus:
   level = status
   code = NetConnection.Connect.Closed


 (76987) disconnected:
 (79193) connected?: true
 (131305) NetConnection.onStatus:
   level = status
   code = NetConnection.Connect.Closed


 (131332) disconnected:
 (134721) connected?: true

 Hangs on connection, and then eventually this

 [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
 java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java
 :55)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(
 KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
 at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java
 :74)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
 at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
 at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:73)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(
 AbstractConnector.java:498)
 at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)





 On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry me again, with this configuration, we have 5 clustered machines
  connecting to a NAS, what would be the best configuration for this in this
  scenario ? One machine is the origin and not attached to the load balancer
  which is also running terracotta, 4 machines running as the frontend edge
  machines and attached to the load balancer ?  They are all running 3G P4's
  and 2G of ram.  Is it possible to run the cluster files from the NAS storage
  itself rather than having seperate set of files on  each machine ? This
  means i just need to update it in one spot, but not sure if that will affect
  performance, especially for reads for the files. I am finding some errors at
  times where there is network issues getting the files for some reason.
  On 08/09/2007, at 7:44 PM, Steven Gong wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  Orion, Tim and I had a meeting discussing the current status and future
  plan of Red5 Edge/Origin with Terracotta integration. Below is the detail.
  (1) Deadlock issue: Orion and Tim explained the auto-lock concept to me
  and helped to solve the deadlock issue caused by misconfiguration of
  auto-locks. Now the Edge/Origin Red5 won't get deadlocked on Terracotta.
  (2) Performance test and tuning: We plan to do performance test and
  tuning in the next step to verify the design and implementation of the
  Edge/Origin prototype. Orion and Tim gave some advice on how to do
  performance test and tuning on Terracotta. Orion will also provide several
  online HW resources for the test. This is very helpful for clustering
  performance test when several machines are available to setup the server
  environment. Great thanks to Orion and other Terracotta guys to make this
  happen!
 
  So we will move forward to test the prototype and do the enhancement
  afterwards.
 
  To all the Red5 users,
  Now you can try to run Edge/Origin prototype on Terracotta.
  Theoretically you can run all the servers on one machine: Edge, Origin and
  Terracotta server. But the recommended configuration is to put each server
  to their own machine, especially the Terracotta server.
  To run the servers, the only difference from the version without
  Terracotta is that you need to start the Edge on Terracotta with the
  configuration file tc-config-edge.xml in the root dir of the clustering
  branch.
  Feel free to report issues during your experiment. Thanks!
 
  --
  Best Regards
  Steven Gong
 
  InfraRed5 Red5 Consultant: http://www.infrared5.com,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Red5 Developer: http://osflash.org/red5, 
  http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/~steven/Home
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Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin + Terracotta Meeting Minutes (2007/9/7)

[Steven Gong]

Lenny,
I haven't tested with Tomcat yet. Origin server doesn't need to run on
Tomcat and all apps are on Origin. So there's no app on Edge server.
Theoretically you only need to package the things an Edge server need into
webwar. For now to run ant webwar should be OK, but you need to point the
spring root file to red5-edge.xml not red5.xml.

On 9/8/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steven,

 I plan on placing the Origin piece on one machine and the Edge piece on
 another machine.

 Do I just build the apps for Tomcat using ant webwar and place a copy into
 each Machines
 Tomcat/webapps folder?

 Docs a little sketchy for Tomcat.

 Thanks,

 Lenny


 On 9/8/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Lenny,
 
  On 9/8/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Hi Steven,
  
   Apologies for asking because I am sure it is somewhere in the list,
   but would you mind pointing me again to the setup docs for Origin /
   Edge / Terracotta.
  
 
  No problem. Here's the steps I wrote last time:
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it soon.
  Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin server and one Edge
  server. (Of course, it should work for one Origin and several Edges. But I
  have never tried it. :-) ) The Edge server is accessed by RTMPT. The RTMP
  Edge support will be added after the Edge/Origin with Terracotta prototype
  is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument red5-edge.xml
  (4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
  rtmpt://localhost:8088 /oflaDemo
 
  The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can modify
  the server property of mrtmpClient bean in  red5-edge-core.xml  to
  set the address of Origin server.
 
 
  I will write a full doc on wiki these days.
 
   I have some time this weekend so I would like to set up this on three
   machines
   via using Win2K, Tomcat  / Apache / Terracotta
  
 
  That's great! Thanks a lot.
 
 
   Thanks,
  
   Lenny
  
  
On 9/8/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
   
   
On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Well i cant see any debug info of the connection stuff even though
 ive set INFO to mrtmp. I shut down the origin, and yes give it a 
 minute or
 so the stream stops. Thats possibly not a good thing requiring a 
 couple of
 origin servers just in case one machine dies :) What do you think  ?

   
The final solution will support the fail-over of Origins.
   
   
 Well thanks for your help its working for me locally, but running
 stuff via eclipse and the edge is configured with terracotta, though 
 dont i
 have to run terracotta manually first aswell ?

   
Yes, of course. :-)
   
   
On 08/09/2007, at 9:46 PM, Steven Gong wrote:



 On 9/8/07, Daniel Rossi  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Ok did some research, some people on this list have had it
  before its a VM specific error and is ignorable, though i still 
  cant work
  out if the edge is actually connecting, cant see much debug info 
  for it, and
  if i shut down the origin its still running as normal ie the video 
  is still
  playing.
 

 Don't know the reason why the video is still playing when you
 shutdown the origin. Maybe the video file is already cached on the 
 client.
 The client won't be disconnected when you shutdown the Origin because 
 the
 client connects to Edge.


  http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JETTY-227
 
 
  Its a constant error though.
 
 
   On 08/09/2007, at 9:26 PM, Daniel Rossi wrote:
 
   Ok tried a few things,
 
  Setup a edge / terracotta debug profile with vm args
 
 
  -Dtc.install-root=terracotta/
  -Xbootclasspath/p:.
  -Dtc.config=tc-config-edge.xml
 
  the program args is
 
  red5-edge.xml
 
  oflademo.swf connects, but then after a while i get this, if i
  shut down the origin server the file still plays is this expected ? 
  It
  doesnt seem like its loading the origin.
 
  I start the origin debug profile first, and then the edge
  profile.
 
 
 
 
 
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(
  SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps( SelectionKeyImpl.java
  :69 )
  at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys (
  KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105 )
  at sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(
  KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect( SelectorImpl.java:69

Re: [Red5] chunk too small log on trunk

[Steven Gong]

.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder.decodePacket ) Chunk
 too small, buffering (89,128
 [DEBUG] 2007-09-03 14:37:02,735 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.1:(
 org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder.decodePacket ) Chunk
 too small, buffering (57,128
 [DEBUG] 2007-09-03 14:37:02,788 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.1:(
 org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder.decodePacket ) Chunk
 too small, buffering (96,128

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Re: [Red5] Exceptions - Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

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  (ContextHandler.java:689)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandlerCollection.handle
  (ContextHandlerCollection.java:146)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerCollection.handle
  (HandlerCollection.java:114)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle
  (HandlerWrapper.java:139)
  at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:285)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:
  457)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.content
  (HttpConnection.java:765)
  at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:
  627)
  at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable
  (HttpParser.java:209)
  at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle
  (HttpConnection.java:357)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.run
  (SelectChannelEndPoint.java:329)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run
  (BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys
  (KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect
  (SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect
  (SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept
  (SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run
  (AbstractConnector.java:498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run
  (BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys
  (KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect
  (SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect
  (SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept
  (SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run
  (AbstractConnector.java:498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run
  (BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys
  (KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect
  (SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect
  (SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept
  (SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run
  (AbstractConnector.java:498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run
  (BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
 
 
  Steven Gong wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  I've checked in the prototype for Edge/Origin to the clustering
  branch:
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/
  clustering
 
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it
  soon.
  Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin server and
  one Edge server. (Of course, it should work for one Origin and
  several
  Edges. But I have never tried it. :-) ) The Edge server is
  accessed by
  RTMPT. The RTMP Edge support will be added after the Edge/Origin
  with
  Terracotta prototype is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running

Re: [Red5] When I add the port number to the connection string the connection fails

[Steven Gong]

Just curious. Why you add the redundant '80' to the url?

On 8/23/07, Naicu Octavian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a Red5 server set up on Fedora Core with port 80 set up for rtmpt
 in red5.properties .

 My issue comes from trying to connect over rtmpt

 Whenever I use rtmpt://subdomain.server.com/myapp the connection succeeds
 aand my chat app works just fine
 Whenever I use rtmpt://subdomain.server.com:80/myapp the connection fails
 with the below onStatus message:

 description:No scope chatapp/avcdr on this server.
 code:NetConnection.Connect.InvalidApp
 level:error


 The default port for rtmpt is 80 so I do not see why I get the isssue
 above!

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Re: [Red5] Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

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Dan,
That's great! You rock! \o/\o/\o/ :-)

On 8/23/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve I have setup a standalone origin server for now up at
 electroteque.org located in Sydney. If someone has a origin server I can
 setup a secondary red5 running as an edge and connect to that, I could
 test that also, or else I can look at setting up a edge service in a
 machine in another datacentre. Will do a quick test with a edge server
 running locally.



 Steven Gong wrote:
  Hi all,
  I've checked in the prototype for Edge/Origin to the clustering
  branch:
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
 
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it soon.
  Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin server and
  one Edge server. (Of course, it should work for one Origin and several
  Edges. But I have never tried it. :-) ) The Edge server is accessed by
  RTMPT. The RTMP Edge support will be added after the Edge/Origin with
  Terracotta prototype is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument red5-edge.xml
  (4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
  rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo
 
  The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can
  modify the server property of mrtmpClient bean in 
  red5-edge-core.xml to set the address of Origin server.
 
  I appreciate your feedbacks and suggestions for the prototype. Enjoy!~~
 
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Re: [Red5] Exceptions - Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

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)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(KQueueSelectorImpl.java
 :105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java
 :55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java
 :69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(KQueueSelectorImpl.java
 :105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java
 :55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java
 :69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(KQueueSelectorImpl.java
 :105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java:73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(AbstractConnector.java
 :498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
 
 
  Steven Gong wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  I've checked in the prototype for Edge/Origin to the clustering
  branch:
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
 
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it soon.
  Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin server and
  one Edge server. (Of course, it should work for one Origin and several
  Edges. But I have never tried it. :-) ) The Edge server is accessed by
  RTMPT. The RTMP Edge support will be added after the Edge/Origin with
  Terracotta prototype is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument 
 red5-edge.xml 
  (4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
  rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo
 
  The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can
  modify the server property of mrtmpClient bean in 
  red5-edge-core.xml to set the address of Origin server.
 
  I appreciate your feedbacks and suggestions for the prototype. Enjoy!~~
 
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  Best Regards
  Steven Gong
 
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  http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/~steven/Home
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Re: [Red5] Exceptions - Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

[Steven Gong]

The default port is at 9035 on Origin. You can configure the value in
red5.properties.

On 8/23/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hang on, does the origin communicate back to the edge ? If so what ports
 do i need to open at my lan router.

 Dan Rossi wrote:
  Steven Gong wrote:
 
  Yes, that is a limitation for the prototype now as I haven't done the
  intelligent connection management. You should make sure that the
  Origin is started up BEFORE you start up the Edge and also make sure
  the Edge can connect to Origin successfully. Anyway thanks for your
  information.
 
  Its not connecting ? How can I work that out , the port is open. The
  origin is up before the edge.
 
 
  On 8/23/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sorry the origin  server was firewalled its open now, i doubt it
 works
  set to localhost either, as I cant have both running.
 
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at
  sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps(SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys
  (KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect(SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select (SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect(SelectorManager.java
 :73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(
 AbstractConnector.java:498)
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run
  (BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
  [ERROR]:( org.mortbay.log.invoke0 ) EXCEPTION
  java.nio.channels.CancelledKeyException
  at
  sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.ensureValid(SelectionKeyImpl.java:55)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectionKeyImpl.readyOps
  (SelectionKeyImpl.java:69)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.updateSelectedKeys(
 KQueueSelectorImpl.java:105)
  at
  sun.nio.ch.KQueueSelectorImpl.doSelect(KQueueSelectorImpl.java:74)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.lockAndDoSelect
  (SelectorImpl.java:69)
  at sun.nio.ch.SelectorImpl.select(SelectorImpl.java:80)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager$SelectSet.doSelect(
 SelectorManager.java:299)
  at
  org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectorManager.doSelect (SelectorManager.java
 :73)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.nio.SelectChannelConnector.accept(
 SelectChannelConnector.java:120)
  at
  org.mortbay.jetty.AbstractConnector$Acceptor.run(
 AbstractConnector.java:498)
 
  at
  org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(
 BoundedThreadPool.java:475)
 
 
 
 
  Dan Rossi wrote:
   Tried a few combinations, including setting the origin host to
   electroteque.org http://electroteque.org and localhost. I
  think there is a problem in the edge
   config.
  
   Connecting with this private var serverURL:String =
   rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo/;
  
   [INFO]:( org.red5.server.Standalone.main ) Startup done in: 2641
 ms
   [ERROR]:( org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.RTMPTServlet.handleSend )
  Could not
   process message.
   java.lang.NullPointerException
   at
  
  org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.EdgeRTMPTHandler.sendConnectMessage(
 EdgeRTMPTHandler.java:181)
   at
  
  org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.EdgeRTMPTHandler.handleConnect(
 EdgeRTMPTHandler.java:165)
   at
  
  org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.EdgeRTMPTHandler.messageReceived(
 EdgeRTMPTHandler.java:58)
   at
  
  org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.RTMPTServlet.handleSend(RTMPTServlet.java
 :355)
   at
  
  org.red5.server.net.rtmpt.RTMPTServlet.service(RTMPTServlet.java
 :433)
   at
  javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:803)
   at
   org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle
  (ServletHolder.java:491)
   at
  
  org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java
 :367)
   at
  
  org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java
 :689)
 
   at
  
  org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandlerCollection.handle(
 ContextHandlerCollection.java:146)
   at
  
  org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerCollection.handle(
 HandlerCollection.java
  :114

Re: [Red5] The New Flash Player

[Steven Gong]

On 8/22/07, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  yes you did,

 Adobe cares too much about backward compatibility  so  they won't never
 discontinue  current codecs.  Also, for  your information,  sorenson  will
 be the only codec available for encoding from within Flash Player and they
 don't plan to add On2 or h.264 codecs. You will be able to encode in those
 formats with 3rd party tools or with FMEncoder but not within Flash Player
 or AIR.

 They are adding new functionality, not replacing old by new.


That's the point! As long as the new Player doesn't send out content that
Red5 can't handle, we are happy with it.

João Fernandes

 Tabitha Flash wrote:

 Hi,

 While I believe the name Red5 is of no relevence to its future success, I
 am worried that this recently announced release of the flash player will not
 support old video (and possibly audio) codecs and that any future
 server delivery of audio and video will have to come from FMS. I.e. The
 player will not support the existing codecs for live, pre recorded or any
 type of stream. FMS will convert everything and Red5 and the like will not
 work unless they can transcode on the fly. Video conferencing for example
 will not work using Red5.

 Have I got this wrong?  I hope so!

 Tabby

 *Walter Tak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 How about Yellow6 or Green4 ?

 I mean ; who cares about a name. It isn't worth much since it's mostly
 known to developers and those don't care if the project is called XX73262,
 purple31337 or none.com.

 The zillion blogs that would write about a forced renaming of Red5 to 
 would be high in the ranks of G00gle so ppl searching for Red5 after the
 namechange would
 end up on the new domainname in seconds.

 IF however Red5 is violating anything, be it reverse engineering, which
 seems to be illegal in several countries then this project is at risk, right
 ?

 I'd like to hear some of the (other) developers views on this case since
 we're heavily investing in Red5-technology and we
 wouldn't like to hear that the product would be declared 'illegal' in the
 near future.

 Regards,
 Walter



 - Original Message -
 *From:* hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* red5@osflash.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:16 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Red5] H.264 codec on Flash player... but not for Red5?

  1. I am not clear what name you are saying red5 comes close to
 infringing.

 2. If it does, there are no damages without notice. You cannot sue if you
 ask someone to change the name and they do. Its not like copyright
 infringement where any infringement creates a statutory liability. Therefore
 any intelligent open source project would just change its name. This would
 not be a smart strategy for eliminating open source and I *strongly* doubt
 red5 is at any risk from this kind of a plan.

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Re: [Red5] Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

[Steven Gong]

Dan,
The Edge server connects the Origin via TCP socket (default port is 9035).

Glad to see that you can setup a test server for this. Thanks. :-)

On 8/21/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could this theoretically be setup to work across datacentres, or does
 the machines need to be in the same DC ? If so, once I manage to work
 out the logic of setting it up, I'd be happy to host a edge / origin
 version of server in a DC in Sydney if people want to try out those kind
 of conditions. Im pretty sure thats the whole deal about the edge system
 anyway. Ie have the origin servers in a DC in the US, and edge servers
 geo targetted across places ie AU and EU.

 Sales Department wrote:
  Is there a wiki page anywhere detailing what's happening on this
  branch?  From steve's post, it appears that a video stream is being
  'published' by the origin server and subscribed to by the edge server.
  If that's the case, please point out where this client relationship is
  being done.  I'm most interested in helping on that piece or at least
  seeing what's been done so far.
 
  Bill
 
  Lenny Sorey wrote:
 
  Hi Orion,
 
  Glad to see you now in the list.
 
  I will be experiment with Stevens setup toward the end of the
  week.
 
  Looking forward to Terracotta's Integration
 
  Regards,
 
  Lenny
 
 
  On 8/21/07, *Orion Letizi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Very cool.  I'm on an airplane today, but I'll try it out as soon
  as I get home.
 
 
  Sent from my handheld
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:29:25
  To:Red5@osflash.org mailto:To:Red5@osflash.org, Red Dev list
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
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  Cc:Orion Letizi  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Harris
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch
 
 
  Hi all,
  I've checked in the prototype for Edge/Origin to the clustering
  branch:
 
 http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
  
 
 http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
 
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it
  soon. Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin
  server and one Edge server. (Of course, it should work for one
  Origin and several Edges. But I have never tried it. :-) ) The
  Edge server is accessed by RTMPT. The RTMP Edge support will be
  added after the Edge/Origin with Terracotta prototype is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument
  red5-edge.xml 
  (4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
  rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo
 
  The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can
  modify the server property of mrtmpClient bean in 
  red5-edge-core.xml to set the address of Origin server.
 
  I appreciate your feedbacks and suggestions for the prototype.
  Enjoy!~~
 
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Re: [Red5] Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

[Steven Gong]

Bill,
I will add a new page describing the details of this prototype effort.
Before that you can take a look at the design page that reflects the current
implementation:
http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/CLU/Edge+Origin+Solution+on+Terracotta

The scenario should be the same as FMS's Edge/Origin solution that the
clients connect to Edge servers and the Edge server connects to Origin
server. The current prototype only supports a single Origin server that
could be connected by several Edge servers and the client should connect to
Edge via RTMPT.

On 8/21/07, Sales Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a wiki page anywhere detailing what's happening on this
 branch?  From steve's post, it appears that a video stream is being
 'published' by the origin server and subscribed to by the edge server.
 If that's the case, please point out where this client relationship is
 being done.  I'm most interested in helping on that piece or at least
 seeing what's been done so far.

 Bill

 Lenny Sorey wrote:
  Hi Orion,
 
  Glad to see you now in the list.
 
  I will be experiment with Stevens setup toward the end of the
  week.
 
  Looking forward to Terracotta's Integration
 
  Regards,
 
  Lenny
 
 
  On 8/21/07, *Orion Letizi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Very cool.  I'm on an airplane today, but I'll try it out as soon
  as I get home.
 
 
  Sent from my handheld
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:29:25
  To:Red5@osflash.org mailto:To:Red5@osflash.org, Red Dev list
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  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Harris
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch
 
 
  Hi all,
  I've checked in the prototype for Edge/Origin to the clustering
  branch:
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
  
  http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
 
 
  I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it
  soon. Now you can play with it on two machines with one Origin
  server and one Edge server. (Of course, it should work for one
  Origin and several Edges. But I have never tried it. :-) ) The
  Edge server is accessed by RTMPT. The RTMP Edge support will be
  added after the Edge/Origin with Terracotta prototype is done.
 
  How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
  (1) Check out the code first.
  (2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
  (3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument
  red5-edge.xml 
  (4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
  rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo
 
  The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can
  modify the server property of mrtmpClient bean in 
  red5-edge-core.xml to set the address of Origin server.
 
  I appreciate your feedbacks and suggestions for the prototype.
  Enjoy!~~
 
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[Red5] Edge/Origin prototype is on the clustering branch

[Steven Gong]

Hi all,
I've checked in the prototype for Edge/Origin to the clustering branch:
http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering

I haven't integrated the Edge with Terracotta yet but will do it soon. Now
you can play with it on two machines with one Origin server and one Edge
server. (Of course, it should work for one Origin and several Edges. But I
have never tried it. :-) ) The Edge server is accessed by RTMPT. The RTMP
Edge support will be added after the Edge/Origin with Terracotta prototype
is done.

How to run the prototype inside Eclipse:
(1) Check out the code first.
(2) Start Origin server by running Standalone without arguments.
(3) Start Edge server by running Standalone with argument red5-edge.xml
(4) Connect the Edge by RTMPT on port 8088. For example,
rtmpt://localhost:8088/oflaDemo

The default setting of Edge is to connect Origin locally. You can modify the
server property of mrtmpClient bean in red5-edge-core.xml to set the
address of Origin server.

I appreciate your feedbacks and suggestions for the prototype. Enjoy!~~

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Re: [Red5] Fast client to all client publishing

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I believe this should be OK. This can be implemented in a Live streaming
session.

On 8/14/07, nomIad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  hehe, sounds good because this would be a possible extension.

 Lets say something like a multicast group.

 You can add multiple clients to a group. You have something like a
 broadcaster and it ll broadcast to all clients with fast performance.
 Lets say like a stream but with data.

 cu nomIad

 Steven Gong schrieb:

 IIUC the RSO seems to be the only official way to make a broadcast call
 across the clients. Correct me if I am wrong.

 On 8/14/07, nomIad  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  Is there a better way to broadcast the SAME data to multiple clients. A
  fast way is the shared object.
  I want to use the NetConnection for calls. So the utility server side
  ist the ServiceUtil witch can invoke on multiple clients.
  So is this the fastest way or ist there something faster when using no
  shared objects?
 
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Re: [Red5] Don't catch people having a bad day

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Well, considering that he's expressed his apology, let's look over that crap
this time...

On 8/8/07, Rob Schoenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh dear so its crap then. Time to jump ship then ? :)

 Yeah, it's that crappy, that I even decided to port it to C#... Craps 'R
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Re: [Red5] Don't catch people having a bad day

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I believe it's a good idea to make a version without spring. The spring
beans make clustering configuration much more difficult.

On 8/9/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mondain wrote:
  OMG.. Let me start by saying I am glad I read George's second comment
  before I wrote this email. I have never loaded Wowza and I dont plan
  on it; I cannot comment on their server but would be curious how they
  run a million times faster than Red5!! Are they using Java version
  99.0? :)

 Am I the only one then that has done extensive comparison testing of the
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Re: [Red5] archive to network drive still a problem ?

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Are you sure it's the Red5 issue or the OS issue?

On 8/6/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi we are still suffering flakey performance issues trying to archive to
 a network drive. We have a computer on the gigabit network which has a
 Dell MD1000 rack attached to it with SAS drives in it. We then have
 another machine loading the shared drive using a UNC path to the drive.
 Archiving is simply not possible the stream wont start and there is no
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Re: [Red5] archive to network drive still a problem ?

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Are you using the default FLVReader? I doubt if the memory mapped file is
the culprit for network attached disks.

On 8/6/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I dont know, how would i be able to tell there is no errors ?  I have
 experience some wierd things in the logs, something to do about buffers
 from the storage could that be it ?

 Steven Gong wrote:
  Are you sure it's the Red5 issue or the OS issue?
 
  On 8/6/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Hi we are still suffering flakey performance issues trying to
  archive to
  a network drive. We have a computer on the gigabit network which
  has a
  Dell MD1000 rack attached to it with SAS drives in it. We then have
  another machine loading the shared drive using a UNC path to the
  drive.
  Archiving is simply not possible the stream wont start and there is
 no
  errors other than the exception errors i posted before. We can only
  archive to the local disc. Any reasons for this ?
 
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Re: [Red5] archive to network drive still a problem ?

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Well, if you feel it's urgent, you can implement an FLVReader without using
memory mapped file. You can use FileInputStream to simulate the APIs exposed
by FLVReader.

On 8/6/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any ideas how to debug this then ?

 Steven Gong wrote:
  Are you using the default FLVReader? I doubt if the memory mapped file
  is the culprit for network attached disks.
 
  On 8/6/07, *Dan Rossi*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  I dont know, how would i be able to tell there is no errors ?  I
 have
  experience some wierd things in the logs, something to do about
  buffers
  from the storage could that be it ?
 
  Steven Gong wrote:
   Are you sure it's the Red5 issue or the OS issue?
  
   On 8/6/07, *Dan Rossi*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   Hi we are still suffering flakey performance issues trying to
   archive to
   a network drive. We have a computer on the gigabit network
 which
   has a
   Dell MD1000 rack attached to it with SAS drives in it. We
  then have
   another machine loading the shared drive using a UNC path to
  the
   drive.
   Archiving is simply not possible the stream wont start and
  there is no
   errors other than the exception errors i posted before. We
  can only
   archive to the local disc. Any reasons for this ?
  
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Re: [Red5] a success last weekend

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That's really really exciting! Thanks for reporting Bill!

On 7/31/07, Sales Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,

 Just wanted to let everyone know of a series of live webcasts we did on
 our Red5 servers over the past few days.  It was a great success!  As a
 fund raiser, a local charitable foundation held a 300 mile bike tour
 across Michigan over 3 days starting last Friday.  We went on the road
 with them and did live webcasts from each of their stops, plus a live
 webcast of their awards presentation on Saturday night.  We also ran
 several Video On Demand films during the down time.  Over 4,000 people
 visited the webcasts and we had Zero problems!  In fact, I started a
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Re: [Red5] RTMPT Performance

[Steven Gong]

Seraphi,
I think that this might be due to the polling messages. Can you tell me what
streams were you using, live stream or vod stream?

On 7/26/07, Seraphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been playing around with RTMPT and have found that the it performs
 very poorly on a congested link in comparison to RTMP.

 This is pretty easy to demonstrate. Load up multiple streams on a low
 bandwidth Internet connection using one and then the other.

 Is this performance difference to be expected, or do I need to tune
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[Red5] Red5 + Terracotta -- A Preview Version of Remote SharedObject Clustering Prototype is available on SVN

[Steven Gong]

Hi all,
I have just committed a preview version of Remote SharedObject clustering
code to SVN on branch:

http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering

This implementation is based on the idea to cluster the whole scope tree
without explicit Terracotta hack to the code base. Great thanks to original
work from Terracotta buddies, especially Orion Letizi. There're still bugs
though (some life-cycle issues of Scope and some init issues of SO) but you
can see the RSO clustering works on two nodes.

How to play around with it on Eclipse?
* Download and install the latest version of Terracotta Eclipse plugin. (
2.4.0)
* Check out the branch from SVN and create the Red5 TC application. (Using
Standalone)
* Start the TC server
* Start the Red5 TC application (Node 1). The port is 1935.
* Start the Red5 TC application again (Node 2). The port is 1935+1=1936.
* Run BallControl demo to connect to 1935.
* Run another BallControl demo to connect to 1936.
* Move the ball and you will see it moving on another BallControl window and
vice versa.

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Re: [Red5] Multiple Red5 servers

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Orion,

On 7/24/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This is still in the experimental phase.  We've gotten the shared object
facility clustered in a proof-of-concept, but that has yet to be
integrated
into the red5 core.  Steven Gong is currently working on that.

The next step is to iron out the architecture for scaling out streams.  I
want to fire up discussion about this.  I'd like to drill down into a
little
more detail about exactly what would be clustered with Terracotta.

Steven, have you experimented with implementing any of the edge/origin
stuff
described in your architecture diagram?  Were you planning on building the
Edge server from scratch, or did you have a caching proxy server already
in
mind that you were going to use?



I plan to build the Edge server based on the Red5 code as many stuff are
already there like RTMP codec. Of course, there's no available working
caching proxy server at hand. Most of the things in the Edge/Origin solution
have to be accomplished my ourselves.

Cheers,

Orion


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 Hi,There's been some work with Terracotta to support load balancing with
 Red 5. See the info
 here:
http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/CLU/Edge+Origin+Solution+on+TerracottaI'm
 not sure how far they've reached with this, if its ready for production
 yet, but have a look.Sean Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:17:49 -0700 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: red5@osflash.org Subject: [Red5] Multiple Red5
 servers  Hi,  Does Red5 support multiple servers? Something like
this
 in FMS:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/productinfo/features/#f-7

  For voice chat, with a Intel Duo Core 3GHz and 1GB of memory, Ubuntu,
 how many simultaneous user can Red5 handle? How much bandwidth does the
 server need for voice communication between 2 users? For example, if I
 want Red5 to serve 500 simultaneous voice chat users, what are the
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Re: [Red5] Multiple Red5 servers

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Dan,

On 7/25/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Steven Gong wrote:

 Of course, there's no available working caching proxy server at hand.
 Most of the things in the Edge/Origin solution have to be accomplished
 my ourselves.

Hi steve maybe squid or apache's mod proxy is a possibility. Anyway as
ive discovered in the past. Mod proxy is taxing on performance because
of the reverse dns lookups or whatever its doing internally.



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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta -- A Preview Version of Remote SharedObject Clustering Prototype is available on SVN

[Steven Gong]

Dan,
Just as what Orion said, Terracotta is pluggable to Red5 and we are trying
hard to refactor the code so that there's no explicit TC feature in the code
base. So in the production env, you can run Red5 as a normal app or as a
TC-instrumented app without any code changes and with no or minor
configuration changes.

On 7/25/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We can definitely apply this in production once most things are nutted
out assuming its also revertable in case of problems, and produce some
feedback. I'm really not sure if there is a way to test such a thing on
our scale without sending it live first :)

Storm wrote:
 wow steve great job, Red5 is doing a huge step to usability in high
 load scenarios. A few guys on the list sure will be happy with this
 quick progress. Congrats

 Cheers

 Carlos

 On 7/25/07, *Steven Gong* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have just committed a preview version of Remote SharedObject
 clustering code to SVN on branch:

 http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering
 
http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering

 This implementation is based on the idea to cluster the whole
 scope tree without explicit Terracotta hack to the code base.
 Great thanks to original work from Terracotta buddies, especially
 Orion Letizi. There're still bugs though (some life-cycle issues
 of Scope and some init issues of SO) but you can see the RSO
 clustering works on two nodes.

 How to play around with it on Eclipse?
 * Download and install the latest version of Terracotta Eclipse
 plugin. (2.4.0)
 * Check out the branch from SVN and create the Red5 TC
 application. (Using Standalone)
 * Start the TC server
 * Start the Red5 TC application (Node 1). The port is 1935.
 * Start the Red5 TC application again (Node 2). The port is
 1935+1=1936.
 * Run BallControl demo to connect to 1935.
 * Run another BallControl demo to connect to 1936.
 * Move the ball and you will see it moving on another BallControl
 window and vice versa.

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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta -- A Preview Version of Remote SharedObject Clustering Prototype is available on SVN

[Steven Gong]

Orion,

On 7/25/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Awesome, Steve.  I'll check it out as asap.  BTW, I've been wrangling with
Ari and Steve Harris (both Terracotta folks) to work up some detailed
comments on your proposed Edge/Origin architecture.  I was hoping to have
something by today, but I couldn't make everyone's schedule line up
yesterday.  I'll try again today.



It's cool. Can't wait to see this happen. :-)

Dan, taking Terracotta in and out is usually as simple as adding or removing

some JVM arguments from the java startup command.  I do that all the time
to
test whether clustering is working by looking at the counter case.

Cheers,
Orion


Dan Rossi-5 wrote:

 We can definitely apply this in production once most things are nutted
 out assuming its also revertable in case of problems, and produce some
 feedback. I'm really not sure if there is a way to test such a thing on
 our scale without sending it live first :)

 Storm wrote:
 wow steve great job, Red5 is doing a huge step to usability in high
 load scenarios. A few guys on the list sure will be happy with this
 quick progress. Congrats

 Cheers

 Carlos

 On 7/25/07, *Steven Gong* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have just committed a preview version of Remote SharedObject
 clustering code to SVN on branch:


http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering

 http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/java/server/branches/clustering

 This implementation is based on the idea to cluster the whole
 scope tree without explicit Terracotta hack to the code base.
 Great thanks to original work from Terracotta buddies, especially
 Orion Letizi. There're still bugs though (some life-cycle issues
 of Scope and some init issues of SO) but you can see the RSO
 clustering works on two nodes.

 How to play around with it on Eclipse?
 * Download and install the latest version of Terracotta Eclipse
 plugin. (2.4.0)
 * Check out the branch from SVN and create the Red5 TC
 application. (Using Standalone)
 * Start the TC server
 * Start the Red5 TC application (Node 1). The port is 1935.
 * Start the Red5 TC application again (Node 2). The port is
 1935+1=1936.
 * Run BallControl demo to connect to 1935.
 * Run another BallControl demo to connect to 1936.
 * Move the ball and you will see it moving on another BallControl
 window and vice versa.

 Welcome to any feedbacks. Thanks ahead!

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Re: [Red5] Working Red5 WebSites / Samples

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Just added http://www.weekee.tv to the page.

On 7/24/07, Thijs Triemstra | Collab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for that list Pierre. I made a page in the wiki where people
can add their Red5 based applications.

Feel free to add your own on http://osflash.org/red5/showcase

Thijs

On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Pierre Augier wrote:

 http://www.openmeetings.net/
 http://www.dokeos.com (videconf module) == both by Sebastian Wagner

 http://spreed.com/ == not 100% shure that's it's red5 but there a
 link
 on joachim-bauch webpage so i guess it's from him

 http://www.videokent.com/videochat.php (seen on this mailing list)

 ... and many other ... (mine app in one month i hope)

 it could be a good idea to list them on red5 project webpage

 regards

 Pierre Augier

 Ben Wade a écrit :

 Can someone send over links of current working websites with
 movies/multimedia using red5 to stream? I'd like to see what red5 is
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[Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin Solution based on Terracotta

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Hi,
I've just put a wiki page to document the Edge/Origin solution based on
Terracotta. FYI

http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/CLU/Edge+Origin+Solution+on+Terracotta

With the help of Orion and Steve from Terracotta, I put an additional
chapter Performance Consideration at the bottom for further revision. Hope
that TC experts can take a look and make some comments. Thanks.

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Re: [Red5] Red5 Edge/Origin Solution based on Terracotta

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Hi Dan,

On 7/22/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi steve this is a killa scope thanks. I think the peeps posted their
findings about implementing TC but it required source hacking, is this
still the case ?



We are working on the solution without hacking but refactoring.

What you are proposing, is that 3 load balanced edge machines , 1 TC

machine, and 3 origin machines are required ? Our setup is 3 seperate
dedicated load balanced machines, and one controller machine connected
to a NAS, how could that work in this case ?



The server number in the doc is only for reference purpose. Ultimately 1
Edge, 1 Origin, 1 TC server and a load balancer are needed for this solution
without counting in the storage servers.

Steven Gong wrote:

 Hi,
 I've just put a wiki page to document the Edge/Origin solution based
 on Terracotta. FYI


http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/CLU/Edge+Origin+Solution+on+Terracotta
 
http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/CLU/Edge+Origin+Solution+on+Terracotta


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Re: [Red5] Any updates on serverStream yet

[Steven Gong]

Lenny,
I saw that this issue is a new feature request and not a bug for
ServerStream. Can you add more details of the issue as comment or create a
new ticket for ServerStream? Thanks.

On 7/21/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Steven,

There is an example of ServerStream already in the Demo Area in JIRA
waiting to be approved.

This is the same one I was talking to Dan about yesterday.

The Java and Flex sources are all there.

Should I also opened a ticket for this?

The audio continues to stutter and the video will hesitate at time and get
out of sync
with the audio.

This was observed with the video trailer examples that come with RED5.

http://jira.red5.org/browse/DEMOS-7

Regards,

Lenny



On 7/20/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan,
 If you still got problem with the ServerStream, please open a ticket on
 JIRA, add enough information on how to reproduce it and assign it to me.
 Thanks.

 On 7/21/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Maybe a ticket should be reopened about the server stream problems ?
 
  Dan Rossi wrote:
   I looked at a way to do trailers rotating in the server stream and
  then
   it switches on a live stream. But because of the server stream
   instability I gave up.
  
   I just have a rotating vod file subscribed and when a stream stop
  event
   happens i just replay it. Then when a broadcast happens the server
  app
   calls an onBroadcast method in the players with the publish name and
 
   then the players subscribe to it. If a player happens to join after
   this, I set an attribute that a broadcast has happened and then also
  if
   there is a broadcast available and then call the player when it
  tries to
   subscribe to the VOD on load. Its still a little buggy possibly ie
  if
   the publisher closes without calling stop sometimes the broadcast
  stop
   event doesnt get run on the server end so the application still
  thinks
   an event is still happening !
  
  
   Lenny Sorey wrote:
  
   Joseph,
  
   This is interesting.
  
   In Thijs publisher's app, I am able to broadcast in full screen
  mode
   with out any problems.
  
   If you have webcam, try this link.
  
   http://red5.fatdot.com/publisher.html
  
   Connect to host first.
  
   then select video and your webcam
  
   click live and then full screen.
  
   Works quite well/
  
   I ask Thijs if there was a way to separate the VOD and Video Live
   stream from his publisher
   example but I don't think it can be done.
  
   Not sure what all the dependencies are there.
  
   anyway, if there was a way to separate these items it sure help
  many
   people.
  
   Regards,
  
   Lenny
  
  
   On 7/20/07, *joseph wamicha*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   The reason for not being able to go full screen is that red5
   playlist mode plays the video in live mode. It therefore does
  not
   send any metadata to the flex player for full-screen mode and
  for
   seeking through the video.
  
  
   On 7/20/07, *Dan Rossi*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Lenny Sorey wrote:
Hi Dan,
   
I mean the audio will stutter at times and the video will
  lag.
   Thats the problem I was getting it was more of a glitch
  than a
   stutter
   though, and the video was all glitchy too.
  
   Nice one , I had intentions of testing loading files from a
   resource.
   This is great well done.
  
   
I can send you this project if you wish to take a look.
   
The flash piece is in Flex 2.
   
Currently, it is in the JIRA Demo area waiting approval
  as a
   demo.
   
Here is the entire java code from the Application.javafile:
   
Let me know if you see anything out of the ordinary.
  
  
   I may extend this maybe, ie with windows media server side
   streams, u
   can include a source in the xml playlist with an item which
  is a
   directory resource, it will include all files in that. Then
  u
   can also
   add another item which is a single resource and it will
  play
   after the
   others are finished.
  
   Wonder how you could make this updatable in the runtime
   without a restart ?
  
   Only problem is what is the timer stuff for, and im not
  sure
   how the
   updateplaylist is working is that right ? Well you dont
  have
   it set to
   random thats for sure so im not sure what the problem is. I
   gave up on
   this stuff ages ago to wait until itz more stable :)
  
   
   
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Re: [Red5] Unique Client IDs PROBLEM

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Could you please tell me the revision number that works?

On 7/19/07, nomIad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes, it was OK before. Ive checked some source code, but ive nothing
found.
An InstanceAlreadyExists Exception raises when there are 2 MBeans are
created with the SAME ID.

mfg nomIad

Steven Gong schrieb:

Was it ok before?

On 7/19/07, nomIad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Have probs with the latest Trunk.
 The the pervios productive trunk was before Ivy implementation.

 K now im not sure but it can be the problem.
 My application use a custom client registry. If a client connects with a

 parameter i set his NAME as the CLIENT ID in the client registry. If a
 client with the same name and authentication connects the SAME client is
 returned. 2 month it was no problem. BUT since the jmx intrudution the
 JMX throws an error that the instance of a connection already exists. K
 i ignored that because it worked. BUT NOW strange things happens.
 Messages from Shared objects are pumped on the same client but different
 OBJECTS, different Scopes.

 Is it maybe because an user can have more than one connection to a
 scope?

 Structure:
 connection to chat
 connection to chat/room1
 connection to chat/roomx
 for each connection a seperate Netconnection BUT finally grouped on the
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Re: [Red5] Unique Client IDs PROBLEM

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Was it ok before?

On 7/19/07, nomIad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi guys,

Have probs with the latest Trunk.
The the pervios productive trunk was before Ivy implementation.

K now im not sure but it can be the problem.
My application use a custom client registry. If a client connects with a
parameter i set his NAME as the CLIENT ID in the client registry. If a
client with the same name and authentication connects the SAME client is
returned. 2 month it was no problem. BUT since the jmx intrudution the
JMX throws an error that the instance of a connection already exists. K
i ignored that because it worked. BUT NOW strange things happens.
Messages from Shared objects are pumped on the same client but different
OBJECTS, different Scopes.

Is it maybe because an user can have more than one connection to a scope?

Structure:
connection to chat
connection to chat/room1
connection to chat/roomx
for each connection a seperate Netconnection BUT finally grouped on the
server to ONE Client Object. COULD this be a problem, was there
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Re: [Red5] BWControlService

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Dan,
No, it's not a bw restriction configuration. If you want to restrict the
bandwidth, you need to put a bandwidth configuration on the IConnection
object. You might be interested taking a look at
http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/streaming/Bandwidth+Control+Framework

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Hi,

Does anyone know if this section in red5-common.xml is currently
used? Is it a server wide bandwidth restriction if so?

 bean id=BWControlService
class=org.red5.server.stream.SimpleBWControlService init-
method=init
 property name=interval value=100/
 property name=defaultCapacity value=104857600/
 !-- 100MB --
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Thanks!

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Re: [Red5] how to publish a swf to another remote client?

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A side note: The whole weekee platform is built from Red5. I believe I have
introduced the site to several Red5 core developers before.

On 7/9/07, Beach Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi maliqun,
I have joined the development of the virtual classroom just like what
you mentioned. If you have time, you could visit the url as follows to check
whether it meet your requirements and contact me freely:

Demo one (PPT+Audio): 
http://www.weekee.tv/necplayer2.swf?act=d5c0ac76-4434-42c4-b640-7d5547fdc06d

Demo two (PPT+Audio+Video+Action): 
http://www.weekee.tv/necplayer2.swf?act=34d3a5d3-7888-4102-ad81-c36f70321ca7


Hope it is helpful for you. :)

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  hi,everyone, I have used the red5 for some time. I think it's a great
 work for all the video crasyor.

 now, I met a problem in my work. please help me if you can.

 I want to make a remote classroom by flash.I want to publish a
 powerpoint or swf to everyone . but I don't know how to do it.

 thanks.

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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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On 6/29/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Forgot to mention the last setup would require 6 machines not 3 correct ?



Actually, if you count the load-balancer as a machine. Then you need:
one machine for load-balancer.
one machine for TC managing Edges. (TC1)
one machine for TC managing Origins. (TC2)
1+ machine for Edges.
1+ machines for Origins.
So 5+ machines.

You can also use a single machine for load-balancer, TC1 and TC2. :-)

Dan Rossi wrote:

 Hi thanks luckily I have Neo Office. The last two may fit our scenario ,
 each machine is doing about 10K hits a day just for the flash. The
 machines are not dedicated, so are also running Windows Media, IIS for
 Windows Media DRM downloads and IIS for DRM License Request scripts
 which select / insert key data into a local mysql database so its a bit
 busy indeed. I think its affecting connections to the windows media http
 streaming port on 83 as the monitor is picking them up as down for some
 reason. They all load content over a shared drive on the local gigabit
 network to a machine with a Dell SAS rack connected to it :).

 Steven Gong wrote:

 Dan,

 On 6/29/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steven Gong wrote:
  Orion,
 
  On 6/29/07, *Orion Letizi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  I spent a little time last night getting the Scope tree
 clustered
  with Terracotta... still working on it today.  Let you all
 know how
  it goes.
 
 
  Great to hear from you about the progress. I'm working on the
  Edge/Origin solutions (detailed architectural design) these days.
  Currently the solution doesn't take into account the clustering
of
  Origin but I think it's easy to add this clustering into the
design.
 Isnt that what the edge system is ? A clustered set of servers with
an
 application in one located can cache the content from another
origin
 location with an application correct ? I would call that
 clustering, ive
 never looked at it personally, its a 60K setup isnt it ?


 You might be interested in this foil:

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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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On 6/29/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We have a shared hardware switch based load balancer, and 3 machines
behind that and one machine for the content. How would this work with
terracotta. Or will we need more machines etc.



IIUC the terracotta server could run on any machines, even on one of the
clustering nodes.

Steven Gong wrote:



 On 6/29/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Forgot to mention the last setup would require 6 machines not 3
 correct ?


 Actually, if you count the load-balancer as a machine. Then you need:
 one machine for load-balancer.
 one machine for TC managing Edges. (TC1)
 one machine for TC managing Origins. (TC2)
 1+ machine for Edges.
 1+ machines for Origins.
 So 5+ machines.

 You can also use a single machine for load-balancer, TC1 and TC2. :-)

 Dan Rossi wrote:
  Hi thanks luckily I have Neo Office. The last two may fit our
 scenario ,
  each machine is doing about 10K hits a day just for the flash. The
  machines are not dedicated, so are also running Windows Media,
 IIS for
  Windows Media DRM downloads and IIS for DRM License Request
scripts
  which select / insert key data into a local mysql database so
 its a bit
  busy indeed. I think its affecting connections to the windows
 media http
  streaming port on 83 as the monitor is picking them up as down
 for some
  reason. They all load content over a shared drive on the local
 gigabit
  network to a machine with a Dell SAS rack connected to it :).
 
  Steven Gong wrote:
 
  Dan,
 
  On 6/29/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Steven Gong wrote:
   Orion,
  
   On 6/29/07, *Orion Letizi*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I spent a little time last night getting the Scope tree
  clustered
   with Terracotta... still working on it today.  Let
 you all
  know how
   it goes.
  
  
   Great to hear from you about the progress. I'm working on
the
   Edge/Origin solutions (detailed architectural design)
 these days.
   Currently the solution doesn't take into account the
 clustering of
   Origin but I think it's easy to add this clustering into
 the design.
  Isnt that what the edge system is ? A clustered set of
 servers with an
  application in one located can cache the content from
 another origin
  location with an application correct ? I would call that
  clustering, ive
  never looked at it personally, its a 60K setup isnt it ?
 
 
  You might be interested in this foil:
 

http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/doc/trunk/Some%20Design%20Idea%20of%20Red5%20Clustering.ppt
 
http://svn1.cvsdude.com/osflash/red5/doc/trunk/Some%20Design%20Idea%20of%20Red5%20Clustering.ppt

 
  
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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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Orion,
Just read your blog. Can you tell me a bit more detail about your idea on
creating a parallel data structure?

On 6/30/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I threw together a blog entry with neat pictures of the Red5 scope
tree clustered inside Terracotta:

http://orionl.blogspot.com/2007/06/clustering-red5.html

As I mention in the blog entry, Tim and I are trying a slightly
different approach.  I'll let you all know how it goes.

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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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Michael,
The test is to make sure the RSO can be served on more than one server so
that in a large scale application like online gaming, the server capacity
can be scaled out when you add more machines.

On 6/30/07, Michael Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Orion,
Can you please tell me what is the purpose of your test, and what kind
of application that the Ball control will apply to.
MC

On Sat, 2007-30-06 at 02:30 +, Orion Letizi wrote:
 We got it working about an hour ago.  We got the ball control demo to
work so that two flash clients connected to two different red5 servers work
together as if they were connected to the same red5 server.  It's pretty
hot.

 I'll post instructions on how to do it soon.

 Cheers,
 --Orion

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 Just read your blog. Can you tell me a bit more detail about your idea
on creating a parallel data structure?


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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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Orion,

On 6/29/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I spent a little time last night getting the Scope tree clustered
with Terracotta... still working on it today.  Let you all know how
it goes.



Great to hear from you about the progress. I'm working on the Edge/Origin
solutions (detailed architectural design) these days. Currently the solution
doesn't take into account the clustering of Origin but I think it's easy to
add this clustering into the design. It would be great if we can share the
progress and have a cowork.

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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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On 6/29/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Today, I got as far as getting the scope tree shared in
Terracotta.  There's
still more to do to get a second Red5 instance to come up (it's mostly
just
solving some initialization issues).  Tim Eck and I will probably hack on
it
together some more tomorrow.

Assuming it works tomorrow, I'll post the Terracotta configuration and
instructions on how to get it running.



That's incredible!

Steven, is there anything we can do to help your effort?  In any case, maybe

we can have another conference call in the next few days to chat about our
progress and what still needs to be done.



Another conference call is fine with me. Whenever it's ok, we can work out a
time suitable for all of us. :-)

Cheers,

Orion



Steven Gong wrote:

 Orion,

 On 6/29/07, Orion Letizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I spent a little time last night getting the Scope tree clustered
 with Terracotta... still working on it today.  Let you all know how
 it goes.


 Great to hear from you about the progress. I'm working on the
Edge/Origin
 solutions (detailed architectural design) these days. Currently the
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 doesn't take into account the clustering of Origin but I think it's easy
 to
 add this clustering into the design. It would be great if we can share
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Re: [Red5] Red5 + Terracotta

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Dan,

On 6/29/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Steven Gong wrote:
 Orion,

 On 6/29/07, *Orion Letizi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I spent a little time last night getting the Scope tree clustered
 with Terracotta... still working on it today.  Let you all know how
 it goes.


 Great to hear from you about the progress. I'm working on the
 Edge/Origin solutions (detailed architectural design) these days.
 Currently the solution doesn't take into account the clustering of
 Origin but I think it's easy to add this clustering into the design.
Isnt that what the edge system is ? A clustered set of servers with an
application in one located can cache the content from another origin
location with an application correct ? I would call that clustering, ive
never looked at it personally, its a 60K setup isnt it ?



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Re: [Red5] Ivy 1.4.1 Implemented

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Cool! Thanks for the work Paul. :-)

On 6/28/07, Mondain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


All,
I have implemented Ivy for dependency handling
http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/
To build with eclipse you will need the IvyDE plugin
http://www.jaya.free.fr/ivyde/download.html
Building with ant requires nothing special, it just takes a bit longer
while it resolves dependencies. I have tested the setup with Java 6 so if
you have any issues let me know here or via Jira (i prefer Jira for
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Re: [Red5] Apache / Tomcat setup for rtmp and rtmpt

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Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams

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Martijn,

On 6/19/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To everybody who has network issues with the link I posted. Please give me
details like: browser, flash player version, firewalls, etc. Network
failures aren't logged if you can't reach the server.

Mark, the problem is the I/O that's why I'm posting this. But I'm glad
that FMS has the same problem ;).



I guess that you are referring to FMS without clustering. The Edge/Origin
solution of FMS provides a cache system on Edge so that the VOD can be
directly distributed to clients on Edge, thus alleviate the load from
Storage server accessed by Origin.

The only solution I can think about is the creation of a system which

divides the load over multiple disks/systems. Expensive but effective.

On 6/19/07, Mark de Jong [NetMasters BV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Martijn,

 Be sure to check out the I/O of the server. We've had the same issues on
 a
 edge-server (yes, edge/origin) from a client from us and I/O was the
 bottleneck for this. They have a lot of seeking (and hundreds of files)
 and
 it was VERY I/O intensive. I don't now how Red5 handles this but it is
 worth
 checking this out first before going on to next steps.

 Kind regards,

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 I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem then
 appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all at
 a
 different position (in time).


 On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Orion,


 On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV
 data in
 the stream,
 perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could
 be
 clustered so
 that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at
 each
 server, any
 server could pick up the stream and start serving it
 based
 on the metadata
 about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file,
 current
 position of
 buffers, stuff like that).


 Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client.
 But
 as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled
 task to
 push the VOD content to the client.

 I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the
 cluster
 if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the connection is of
 type
 RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the packets that will
 be
 sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO packets,
 invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to one
 of
 the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the
 client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can be
 shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream objects.


 What do you think?




 Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of
 the
 internals of
 Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or
 both
 for which I
 apologize in advance.


 Steve,

 On 6/16/07, sharrissf  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
 
 
  Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has
 multiple
 people accessing
  it
  I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta.
 Though I
 would need to
  know
  more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar

 with how they work
  and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in
 this
 case is
  essentially sharing the same stream so really only one
 instance ends up in
  each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each
 user
 is only in the
  jvm
  where the person is connected.


 The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like
 what
 Remote
 SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it
 can
 be clustered by
 TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic
 because
 (1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of
 RSO.
 So much more data
 will be transfered across the nodes.
 (2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency
 will also arise and
 the real time requirement of live streaming is
 compromised.

 Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's
 practical will be
 decided by the application.

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Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams

[Steven Gong]

On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem then
appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all at a
different position (in time).



That IS a problem which might be solved by a cache system. FMS uses cache on
Edge servers.

Martijn, could you please give more data about this issue? How many
concurrent accesses will become a bottleneck for the I/O reading of FLV?

On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Orion,

 On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data in the
  stream,
  perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could be clustered
  so
  that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each server, any
 
  server could pick up the stream and start serving it based on the
  metadata
  about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current position of
  buffers, stuff like that).


 Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client. But as we
 also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled task to push
 the VOD content to the client.

 I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the cluster if
 the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the connection is of type
 RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the packets that will be
 sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO packets,
 invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to one of
 the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the
 client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can be
 shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream objects.

 What do you think?

 Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of the internals of
  Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or both for which
  I
  apologize in advance.
 
 
  Steve,
 
  On 6/16/07, sharrissf  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  
   Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple people
  accessing
   it
   I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though I would need
  to
   know
   more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar with how they
  work
   and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in this case is
   essentially sharing the same stream so really only one instance ends
  up in
   each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user is only in
  the
   jvm
   where the person is connected.
 
 
  The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like what Remote
  SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it can be
  clustered by
  TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because
  (1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO. So much
  more data
  will be transfered across the nodes.
  (2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency will also
  arise and
  the real time requirement of live streaming is compromised.
 
  Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's practical will
  be
  decided by the application.
 
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Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams

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On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well that currently hard to say because the server died and didn't leave
any logs (he couldn't access the filesystem). I'm almost finished with
another part of the Red5 app I'm building after that I will post an url of a
movie. If everyone can access that movie maybe I can see the amount of
connections and post the data here.

I run Red5 with ant, is there a way I can store the logs?



What logs do you refer to? The server log or the log you record yourself?

On 6/18/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:




 On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem
  then appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but all
  at a different position (in time).


 That IS a problem which might be solved by a cache system. FMS uses
 cache on Edge servers.

 Martijn, could you please give more data about this issue? How many
 concurrent accesses will become a bottleneck for the I/O reading of FLV?

  On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Orion,
  
   On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data in the
stream,
perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could be
clustered so
that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each server,
any
server could pick up the stream and start serving it based on the
metadata
about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current
position of
buffers, stuff like that).
  
  
   Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client. But
   as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a scheduled task 
to
   push the VOD content to the client.
  
   I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the cluster
   if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the connection is of 
type
   RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the packets that will 
be
   sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO packets,
   invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to one of
   the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the
   client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can be
   shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream objects.
  
   What do you think?
  
   Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of the internals
of
Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or both for
which I
apologize in advance.
   
   
Steve,
   
On 6/16/07, sharrissf  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple people
accessing
 it
 I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though I would
need to
 know
 more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar with how
they work
 and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in this case
is
 essentially sharing the same stream so really only one instance
ends up in
 each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user is only
in the
 jvm
 where the person is connected.
   
   
The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like what Remote
SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it can be
clustered by
TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because
(1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO. So much
more data
will be transfered across the nodes.
(2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency will also
arise and
the real time requirement of live streaming is compromised.
   
Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's practical
will be
decided by the application.
   
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Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams

[Steven Gong]

On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The output ant gives to the console. (I'm new to ant)



Well, if you are not working on jar, you can modify the
log4j.propertiesfile manually by changing the
log4j.rootCategory=DEBUG, CONSOLE
to
log4j.rootCategory=DEBUG, FLOG

The log file will be red5.log

On 6/18/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well that currently hard to say because the server died and didn't
  leave any logs (he couldn't access the filesystem). I'm almost finished with
  another part of the Red5 app I'm building after that I will post an url of a
  movie. If everyone can access that movie maybe I can see the amount of
  connections and post the data here.
 
  I run Red5 with ant, is there a way I can store the logs?


 What logs do you refer to? The server log or the log you record
 yourself?

  On 6/18/07, Steven Gong  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  
  
   On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the problem
then appears when a lot of people access the file at the same time but 
all
at a different position (in time).
  
  
   That IS a problem which might be solved by a cache system. FMS uses
   cache on Edge servers.
  
   Martijn, could you please give more data about this issue? How many
   concurrent accesses will become a bottleneck for the I/O reading of FLV?
  
On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Orion,

 On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data in
  the stream,
  perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could be
  clustered so
  that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each
  server, any
  server could pick up the stream and start serving it based on
  the metadata
  about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current
  position of
  buffers, stuff like that).


 Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the client.
 But as we also need to track the client buffer, we are using a 
scheduled
 task to push the VOD content to the client.

 I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the
 cluster if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the 
connection is
 of type RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the 
packets that
 will be sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, RSO 
packets,
 invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed to 
one of
 the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to the
 client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, can 
be
 shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream 
objects.

 What do you think?

 Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of the
  internals of
  Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or both
  for which I
  apologize in advance.
 
 
  Steve,
 
  On 6/16/07, sharrissf  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  
   Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple
  people accessing
   it
   I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though I
  would need to
   know
   more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar with
  how they work
   and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in this
  case is
   essentially sharing the same stream so really only one
  instance ends up in
   each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user is
  only in the
   jvm
   where the person is connected.
 
 
  The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like what
  Remote
  SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it can
  be clustered by
  TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because
  (1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO. So
  much more data
  will be transfered across the nodes.
  (2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency will
  also arise and
  the real time requirement of live streaming is compromised.
 
  Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's
  practical will be
  decided by the application.
 
  --
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Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams

[Steven Gong]

I got NetConnection.Connect.Failed error here. Maybe network issue?

On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


For testing purposes I'm posting this URL:
http://babbavideo.com/nl/player/710/repent_vj_crew_demo_video.html
it's a movie I made myself

Could as much as many Red5 developers access this movie?

On 6/18/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



 On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The output ant gives to the console. (I'm new to ant)


 Well, if you are not working on jar, you can modify the log4j.propertiesfile 
manually by changing the
 log4j.rootCategory=DEBUG, CONSOLE
 to
 log4j.rootCategory=DEBUG, FLOG

 The log file will be red5.log

  On 6/18/07, Steven Gong  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
   On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Well that currently hard to say because the server died and didn't
leave any logs (he couldn't access the filesystem). I'm almost finished 
with
another part of the Red5 app I'm building after that I will post an url 
of a
movie. If everyone can access that movie maybe I can see the amount of
connections and post the data here.
   
I run Red5 with ant, is there a way I can store the logs?
  
  
   What logs do you refer to? The server log or the log you record
   yourself?
  
On 6/18/07, Steven Gong  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   


 On 6/18/07, Martijn van Beek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not streaming live data but stored flv movies. And the
  problem then appears when a lot of people access the file at the 
same time
  but all at a different position (in time).


 That IS a problem which might be solved by a cache system. FMS
 uses cache on Edge servers.

 Martijn, could you please give more data about this issue? How
 many concurrent accesses will become a bottleneck for the I/O reading 
of
 FLV?

  On 6/17/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Orion,
  
   On 6/17/07, Orion Letizi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
While it may be impractical to cluster the actual AV data
in the stream,
perhaps the current state (metadata) of the stream could
be clustered so
that, as long as the AV data was available on disk at each
server, any
server could pick up the stream and start serving it based
on the metadata
about the stream (e.g., offset into the data file, current
position of
buffers, stuff like that).
  
  
   Yep, that's true if the VOD streaming is pulled by the
   client. But as we also need to track the client buffer, we are 
using a
   scheduled task to push the VOD content to the client.
  
   I was thinking of sharing the connection buffer across the
   cluster if the connection is of type RTMPTConnection. When the 
connection is
   of type RTMPT, we use a buffer for each connection to save the 
packets that
   will be sent to the client. These packets includes AV packets, 
RSO packets,
   invocation result etc. When the client's request is distributed 
to one of
   the node, the server retrieves packets in the buffer and sends to 
the
   client. So all kinds of services, regardless of VOD, Live or RSO, 
can be
   shared without the need to share the whole connection or stream 
objects.
  
   What do you think?
  
   Of course, I share Steve Harris's lack of knowledge of the
internals of
Red5, so my observation might be dumb, nonsensical, or
both for which I
apologize in advance.
   
   
Steve,
   
On 6/16/07, sharrissf  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple
people accessing
 it
 I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though
I would need to
 know
 more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar
with how they work
 and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in
this case is
 essentially sharing the same stream so really only one
instance ends up in
 each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user
is only in the
 jvm
 where the person is connected.
   
   
The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like
what Remote
SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it
can be clustered by
TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because
   
(1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO.
So much more data
will be transfered across the nodes.
(2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency
will also arise and
the real time requirement of live streaming is
compromised

Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams

[Steven Gong]

Steve,

On 6/16/07, sharrissf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Assuming the stream fits in memory and just has multiple people accessing
it
I suspect it could be clustered with Terracotta. Though I would need to
know
more details to know for sure as I'm not that familiar with how they work
and are implemented. My thinking is that everyone in this case is
essentially sharing the same stream so really only one instance ends up in
each jvm and all the meta-data associated with each user is only in the
jvm
where the person is connected.



The live stream is pushed to the subscribers just like what Remote
SharedObject does so if configured properly I believe it can be clustered by
TC. But I doubt that this is practically realistic because
(1) The amount of AV data is much bigger than that of RSO. So much more data
will be transfered across the nodes.
(2) When the amount of data arises, the transfer latency will also arise and
the real time requirement of live streaming is compromised.

Anyway we can implement it technically and whether it's practical will be
decided by the application.

Timon Reinhard wrote:


 Hi Mark,

 fair enough, you have Wowza benchmarks. ;)

   I don't know how Red5 handles this but it is worth trying to do it on
   a different way then writing it as a file?

 Quite sure Red5 doesn't handle live streams as files. I guess this got
 somehow mixed up with VOD in this thread.

 The problem distributing live streams is less the cpu/memory load than
 the available network bandwidth. I'm curious if that could be solved
 using Terracotta...



 Mark de Jong [NetMasters BV] schrieb:
 Hi Martijn, Timon and Dan,

 Why should it be I/O intensive? Are you writing a live stream to the
HDD
 in
 order to stream this? We have been testing around with Wowza Media
Server
 a
 lot (and have done a live pilot with it). We had about 600 simultanious
 streams at 350Kbps and we used about 12,5% of the resources of the
server
 we
 used (we have been testing around with different types of hardware with
 Wowza and have recieved very good results with it). AFAIK know Wowza
did
 it
 by using memory instead of writing it as a file and also has a way to
 duplicate live streams to other servers. I don't know how Red5 handles
 this
 but it is worth trying to do it on a different way then writing it as a
 file?

 PS: I'm not a technician I'm just a salesperson that loves tech :)

 Kind regards,

 Mark de Jong
 NetMasters/FlashHosting
 www.flashhosting.nl


 

 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens
 Martijn van Beek
 Verzonden: vrijdag 15 juni 2007 14:32
 Aan: Red5@osflash.org
 Onderwerp: Re: [Red5] Load balancing for live streams


 I'm currently experimenting with ssh mounts in Linux.
 I can read out the directory of the other server within Red5 but it
fails
 to
 load the flv somehow.

 I noticed that Red5 handles everything very well but when a lot of
people
 want to access the same stream at the same time the I/O is killing my
 server
 (Dual Duo Core Xeon with 4 GB RAM).

 Could Terracotta handle this?


 On 6/15/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think there has been talk of implementing terracotta which may
 make
  this possible. We publish to one server currently.


  Timon Reinhard wrote:
   Hi!
  
   Is there any way to distribute a live videostream using two or
 more
   machines running red5?
  
   Thanks.
  



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Re: [Red5] Red5 and EnhancedSeek feature

[Steven Gong]

No, Red5 doesn't support this because we don't have embedded video codecs.

On 6/13/07, Igor Sadovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello all!

Does anybody know if current Red5 version supports EnhancedSeek feature
(like in FMS2)

Regards,
Igor

 EnhancedSeek

This tag enables or disables fine tuning the seeking performance within
streams by creating a keyframe.
Description

Keyframes improve the visual display of FLV files while seeking. When this
tag is set to true, the server inserts keyframes at the point in the
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Re: [Red5] Random sporadic client disconnects

[Steven Gong]

Thomas,

On 6/8/07, Thomas Auge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How does the ping used by ping interval work? Is that an ICMP ping?
UDP? Does it drop the connection if one ping fails? Because that would
explain the problem: ICMP and UDP packets can get lost on the way, but
one failed ping does not necessarily warrant a disconnect.



No, it's not ICMP ping but a ping in RTMP packet which is sent via TCP and
will not get lost.

I found the inactivity timeout, too, but that is high enough to be

irrelevant to the problem.


Thomas Auge wrote:
 Hi all,

 I run a webcam chat application on red5. Sporadically users are
 disconnected from the red5 server. This seems to be related to latency.
 For example, a modem user publishing his webcam stream is guaranteed to
 be dropped a few seconds later. Or anyone with a heavy load (= high
 latency, probably some packet loss) on his connection will be dropped
 rather sooner than later. Randomly this happens to almost everyone, but
 packets do get lost all the time and latency can fluctuate everywhere,
 so that also makes sense too.


 Is there a configurable connection timeout? If not, what is the
 hardcoded timeout?

 Thanks,

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Re: [Red5] Integrating terracotta with red5 call...

[Steven Gong]

Steve,
Glad to receive your mail. I would like to be in contact with you by phone
but I am located in China so maybe Skype can come to help.

On 6/9/07, sharrissf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I want to set up a con call with anyone who might be interested in working
to
integrate terracotta with Red5 to see how we can help.

I would propose Monday at 1:00pm California time. Anyone interested can
e-mail me at steve at terracottatech. I'll respond with the call in number
etc.

Cheers,
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Re: [Red5] Synchronizing multi video and audio streams

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The synchronization of these streams can be accomplished on client side.

On 6/5/07, Evgeniy Strokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello,
Is it possible to synchronize multiple video and audio streams?
Here is example from real life:
We have two cameras which provide two video streams, one is a big picture
and another is a general picture. Also, there are three audio sources:
original sound and two simultaneous translations to two other languages.
We need broadcast life and it's possible what users will choose all 5
streams to be available for them at the same time. Also, We need to store
all this in to archive and in future the users should be able to have access
to all 5 streams. Obviously, it's very important that all of them should be
synchronized.
Is this possible at all using Red5?

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Re: [Red5] Synchronizing multi video and audio streams

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On 6/6/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The synchronization of these streams can be accomplished on client side.



You can simply start several streams at the same time by NetStream.play().

On 6/5/07, Evgeniy Strokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


   Hello,
 Is it possible to synchronize multiple video and audio streams?
 Here is example from real life:
 We have two cameras which provide two video streams, one is a big
 picture and another is a general picture. Also, there are three audio
 sources: original sound and two simultaneous translations to two other
 languages.
 We need broadcast life and it's possible what users will choose all 5
 streams to be available for them at the same time. Also, We need to store
 all this in to archive and in future the users should be able to have access
 to all 5 streams. Obviously, it's very important that all of them should be
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 Is this possible at all using Red5?

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Re: [Red5] how does the bandwidth configure work ?

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Dan,
The bandwidth configuration is designed to use a tree hierarchical structure
to manage bandwidth. This model is intended to restrict the child node so
that the bandwidth consumed by the child nodes will not exceed the total
configuration of the parent node.

For example, the stream object is the child of connection object. The
bandwidth consumed by stream object can't exceed the bw configured for
connection.

Take a look at the interface: org.red5.server.api.IBWControllable. Each
bandwidth controllable has a parent. The hierarchy designed on trunk is just
for Connection (1) -- Stream (*).

It's interesting to make SubScope as a parent to Connection. That will solve
the problem you mentioned below. As of now, the Scope class does not
implement IBWControllable but it's not hard to do so. (Just follow the way
RTMPConnection does it)

After making Scope bandwidth controllable, you can change the
RTMPConnection.getParentBWControllable() method (to override the class might
be a better choice though) to return the scope the connection belongs to.
(The default implementation return null, which means the bandwidth limit
from parent is unlimited.)

You might also want to make the whole Scope hierarchy as the same tree
hierarchy as IBWControllable. You can simply return the parent scope in
Scope.getParentBWControllable() to accomplish this goal.

One thing you should notice is that the bandwidth control framework design
in Red5 server is very flexible and it might not be suitable to define
strictly one unique model to fit all needs (one might want a client-based
bandwidth configuration: Client(1) -- Connection(*) -- Stream(*).). It'll
be better to get more user inputs to nail down a suitable solution.

On 5/28/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi i was wondering how the bandwidth configurer is suppose to work, ie
is it application wide or per connection ?
public void setOverallBandwidth(long value)
{
getChannelBandwidth()[IBandwidthConfigure.OVERALL_CHANNEL] =
value * 1024;
}

public void setInitialBandwidth(long value)
{
getChannelInitialBurst()[IBandwidthConfigure.OVERALL_CHANNEL] =
value * 1024;
}

I have these but im not sure if they affect just the connection or the
entire app. Im trying to set these on a per subscope basis. So
connections so one sub scope is shaped different to another subscope.
And for instance if the bandwidth does get shaped on the particular sub
scope it will either stop further connections or just simply shape the
streams.

Let me know having to work out how to setup some config which gets
loaded into a hashmap on app startup which can be called on room
connections. Our current setup has bandwidth limits of 7MB per sub
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Re: [Red5] how does the bandwidth configure work ?

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-1 means no bandwidth limit.

On 5/28/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It seems these also return -1 when a stream closes.

public long getOverallBandwidth()
{
return getChannelBandwidth()[IBandwidthConfigure.OVERALL_CHANNEL];
}

public long getInitialBandwidth()
{
return
getChannelInitialBurst()[IBandwidthConfigure.OVERALL_CHANNEL];
}


Dan Rossi wrote:
 Hi i was wondering how the bandwidth configurer is suppose to work, ie
 is it application wide or per connection ?
 public void setOverallBandwidth(long value)
 {
 getChannelBandwidth()[IBandwidthConfigure.OVERALL_CHANNEL] =
 value * 1024;
 }

 public void setInitialBandwidth(long value)
 {
 getChannelInitialBurst()[IBandwidthConfigure.OVERALL_CHANNEL] =
 value * 1024;
 }

 I have these but im not sure if they affect just the connection or the
 entire app. Im trying to set these on a per subscope basis. So
 connections so one sub scope is shaped different to another subscope.
 And for instance if the bandwidth does get shaped on the particular sub
 scope it will either stop further connections or just simply shape the
 streams.

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Re: [Red5] Wowza Media Server Pro 1.1.1

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Donnacha,
I really appreciate the information about Wowza. Thanks indeed. :-)

On 5/26/07, Donnacha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If your product is as poorly put together as this type of spam
 advertising I cant see it being around for long.

Graham, your comment is not only insulting but also reveals your
laziness and lack of familiarity with this list.  Before accusing
someone of being a spammer you should, perhaps, do a quick search to
see what previous discussions they have been involved in and how long
they have been around.

As someone whose has been posting to this list since '05, I find it
interesting that you seem to have appeared out of nowhere in March
this year with a post angrily whining about the lack of help you were
receiving.  When both Dominick and Daniel called your bluff, pointing
out that you had not, in fact, made any previous post requesting such
help, either to this list or even the shocksites forum, you rapidly
changed tack, pretended to be someone else using the same email
address, and decided it was more effective to beg for help rather than
stamp your feet.

Then, even after Dominick's patient and extensive help, you still
weren't able to get your installation running properly, surely not
such a difficult task for a man so quick to attack others?

You see: I found all that about you just by pressing the search
button, may I suggest you do the same in future before accusing anyone
else here of being a spammer

And, incidentally, Wowza has been discussed here before and is of some
interest to us because it is the only other Java-based Flash media
server currently being developed.  As such, a new release is
noteworthy, I posted the salient details to save others the effort of
visiting their site.

Perhaps you, too, could contribute something useful one day.

Donnacha


On 5/25/07, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If your product is as poorly put together as this type of spam
 advertising I cant see it being around for long.



 Donnacha wrote:
  It's worth keeping an eye on what's happening with the other
  Java-based Flash media server, Wowza.  They have just released their
  1.1 version:
 
  http://www.wowzamedia.com/support.html
 
  ... and are claiming the following improvements (over the previous
version):
 
  *  Better overall performance
  * Significantly improved video chat
  * Support for SHOUTcast re-streaming
  * API for user defined media writer
  * Enhanced scalability for video applications
  * Expanded choice of media stream types
 
  Propriety product, free version limited to 10 connections, licenses
  above range from $750 - $5000, so, obviously, our fingers are crossed
  that Red5 will be able to match it's performance.
 
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Re: [Red5] Wowza Media Server Pro 1.1.1

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Abhishek,
I think you can try to change the existing demo applications (eg. oflaDemo)
firstly to make your hand wet.

On 5/26/07, Ashu Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Require help

Sir, I am now up to screwing my 5th day to know why my application( a
simple text chat ) is showing an error Netconnection.connect.invalidapp on
trying to run it.

I am using red5 server for back end, it is fully configured on my system
and samples r running fine.

I don't know why this error is creeping in as I also tried to put my code
behind red5/webapp/WEB-INF/code of my application.

This might seem funny, but I am a real newbie to red5 and now am
anticipating help really.

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Re: [Red5] What about a marriage with Granite Data Services

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Dan,
I am working on the integration recently based on Standalone with the help
of the experts from TC team. It's in progress and if you are interested,
keep an eye on the clustering branch on SVN.

On 5/25/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How is that going btw, does it look like an easy one. Will it only work
if its a war in tomcat ? I Think I remember hearing lenny having a go at
integration a while back.

Mondain wrote:
 I think we're dating Terracotta at the moment.. ;)

 On 5/24/07, *Sebastian Mohr* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 see this Link:

http://www.graniteds.org/confluence/display/INTRO/Granite+Data+Services+Overview
 
http://www.graniteds.org/confluence/display/INTRO/Granite+Data+Services+Overview


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Re: [Red5] What about a marriage with Granite Data Services

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Steve,

On 5/26/07, sharrissf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Not sure where it is at but we are trying to set up a call with interested
parties over the next
week or so.



Glad to talk with you guys. I hope that I can make most of the things done
locally and leave some very hard unsolved problems for you. ;-)

Nothing about terracotta would require one to use tomcat. Works fine on

standalone apps and in containers.



Exactly. My plan is to make the standalone version clusterable first and I
think the tc-config.xml can be shared by WAR version.

Dan Rossi-5 wrote:


 How is that going btw, does it look like an easy one. Will it only work
 if its a war in tomcat ? I Think I remember hearing lenny having a go at
 integration a while back.

 Mondain wrote:
 I think we're dating Terracotta at the moment.. ;)

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http://www.graniteds.org/confluence/display/INTRO/Granite+Data+Services+Overview

 
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Re: [Red5] What about a marriage with Granite Data Services

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Sebastian,
I think Joachim only referenced the information from what Jason King
mentioned:

** quote **
Please, get out the shotgun.
Based on Spring.  Concerned about RemoteObjects and AMF3.  GPL
implementation of remoting/fds/lds.  Sounds like there's a big overlap
to me.
** end of quote **

AFAIK GDS only supports remoting gateway (AMF3) which is only a very small
subset of Red5. Not a very big overlap.

On 5/25/07, Sebastian Mohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


@Joachim

Granite Data Services runs under LGPL, see:

http://graniteds.riaforge.org/

There is no GPL-licence agreement for GDS!

What do you mean???
masu



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 Jason King schrieb:
  Please, get out the shotgun.
  Based on Spring.  Concerned about RemoteObjects and AMF3.  GPL
  implementation of remoting/fds/lds.  Sounds like there's a big overlap
  to me.

 one thing that doesn't overlap are the licenses. Red5 uses LGPL, so
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Re: [Red5] Get Stream FLV via HTTP/WebDAV, not file system

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Matteo,
You can replace FileProvide with, say, CmsProvider which will pull content
from CMS rather than a normal file system. The CMS (via JCR API) provides
InputStream to retrieve content from.

On 5/21/07, Matteo Serritiello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 10.00 21/05/2007, you wrote:
Thanks Dan, I have seen Spring ResourceLoader and it says that any
context
accept URL from various places but getVODProviderFile method from
Provider
Service class demand File type while I believe that WebDAV return
InputStream...

Then I have changed ProvideService to fix this, but from InputStream to
File I must OuputStream this and temporarily write File on server file
system to streaming it... I'd want to use only InputStream to avoid this
'bottleneck' (write file on server file system) but I see that only
ApplicationAdapter class call getVODProviderFile method for know
StreamLength... then... Where must I change to work with InputStream
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Re: [Red5] Terracotta + Red5

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Dan,

On 5/21/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thats what im trying to work out aswell, if its not possible, its going
to be impossible to cluster properly ?



Yes, this thing is kind of tough. I will look into DMI for a solution.

Steven Gong wrote:

 Hi Eugene,
 Thanks for your mail. The problem I got when trying to cluster the
 server is not related to Spring really but is due to the broadcasting
 between the server nodes. We have a Subscribers with Broadcaster
 model in both live stream and shared object cases, where one
 broadcaster needs to broadcast events to several subscribers that
 might be connected to different server nodes.

 Currently for a non-clustering version, we use a list for subscribers
 that have subscribed to a specific broadcaster but I don't know how to
 use TC to cluster this model. Do you have any idea about this problem?

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 Guys,

   I am one of the developers who implemented Spring support for
 Terracotta
 DSO, and I have really good idea what it can and what it can't do.
 On the
 other hand I know really little about red5, so please bear with
 me. :-)

   So, can you please explain to me what data exactly you need to
 cluster in
 red5?

   Can you also elaborate on what makes it difficult for you to
 learn for to
 integrate Spring?

   Also, I don't quite understand your concerns about standalone
 vs. tomcat
 (or other web servers). It is your own choice actually and
 Terracotta works
 in both cases.

   It might be easier for you to get your questions answered in the
 Terracotta mailing lists (tc-user or tc-dev) that you can
 subscribe to at
 http://terracotta.org/confluence/display/orgsite/Mailing+Lists

   regards,
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  I think i hit a wall already, in this integration examples it
 says to
  load an application context file , im assuming its the
 red5-web.xml for
  each webapp, however all the bean id's are named the same ie
  web.handler, i took a look at the war configs and they are named
  differently, still not sure what to put in here
 
 

http://www.terracotta.org/confluence/display/docs1/Integrations+Spring#IntegrationsSpring-Howtouseit
 
http://www.terracotta.org/confluence/display/docs1/Integrations+Spring#IntegrationsSpring-Howtouseit

 
  Dan Rossi wrote:
  Ok damn, just checked out the samples and seems like its going
 to take a
  while to learn to integrate with spring, in a standalone and
tomcat
  situation. Ill just continue on this custom stats logging and
 come back
  to it :)
 
  Dan Rossi wrote:
 
  Hi Im going to be looking at this scenario very shortly,
 however does
  this setup have its own caching and RMI mechanisms , or will I
 still be
  using the internal one setup in red5. What is the benefits of
 using
  something like this with tomcat as oppose to stand alone ? I
 do find it
  a PIA to make the updates i need, where a war file into tomcat
 is so
  much simpler just to update the server and applications.
 
   From looking at the demonstration video, im curious to know
 if its
  going to be  possible for red5 apps to share the same
 published names.
  Ie, publish a broadcast to our load balancer ip which chooses
 a server
  and then starts archiving to our SAN, and then the subscribers
 are also
  connected to the load balancer, and when a broadcast has
 happened, all
  connected clients will get the call being sent from the
 application to
  switch to the stream. This would be most interesting to see if
its
  possible.
 
  Let me know what others may be doing with it.
 
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Re: [Red5] Terracotta + Red5

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On 5/21/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It has already been integrated ? Should I have a go at it now or wait a
bit ? I got stuck with trying to work out how to add the webapps and its
context xml files it is a little confusing.



Seems it's a limitation of TC spring integration. Application context can
only be specified as name.

Chris Allen wrote:

 Hi Steve and Eugene,

 I just wanted to thank you guys for spending time helping some of us
 get Red5 running under Terracotta. I think that this combination, once
 the kinks are worked out, will be very powerful and should provide a
 solution for scaling Red5 applications in an elegant way. This is
 obviously something that many us  are interested in.

 -Chris

 On 5/19/07, sharrissf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Terracotta has a concept called DMI Distributed method invocation. Some
of
 our examples use this to update remote GUI's when models change. What
you
 are describing sounds like it could also benefit from dmi. It's not a
good
 idea to overuse this concept but it is useful for notification in cases
 where wait and notify aren't practical. Here is a link to the concept:

http://www.terracotta.org/confluence/display/docs1/Concept+and+Architecture+Guide#ConceptandArchitectureGuide-DistributedMethodInvocation%28DMI%29

 Cheers,
 Steve


 Steven Gong wrote:

 Hi Eugene,
 Thanks for your mail. The problem I got when trying to cluster the
server
 is
 not related to Spring really but is due to the broadcasting between
the
 server nodes. We have a Subscribers with Broadcaster model in both
live
 stream and shared object cases, where one broadcaster needs to
broadcast
 events to several subscribers that might be connected to different
server
 nodes.

 Currently for a non-clustering version, we use a list for subscribers
that
 have subscribed to a specific broadcaster but I don't know how to use
TC
 to
 cluster this model. Do you have any idea about this problem?

 On 5/19/07, Eugene Kuleshov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys,

   I am one of the developers who implemented Spring support for
 Terracotta
 DSO, and I have really good idea what it can and what it can't do. On
the
 other hand I know really little about red5, so please bear with me.
:-)

   So, can you please explain to me what data exactly you need to
cluster
 in
 red5?

   Can you also elaborate on what makes it difficult for you to learn
for
 to
 integrate Spring?

   Also, I don't quite understand your concerns about standalone vs.
 tomcat
 (or other web servers). It is your own choice actually and Terracotta
 works
 in both cases.

   It might be easier for you to get your questions answered in the
 Terracotta mailing lists (tc-user or tc-dev) that you can subscribe
to at
 http://terracotta.org/confluence/display/orgsite/Mailing+Lists

   regards,
   Eugene



 Dan Rossi-5 wrote:

 I think i hit a wall already, in this integration examples it says
to
 load an application context file , im assuming its the red5-web.xmlfor
 each webapp, however all the bean id's are named the same ie
 web.handler, i took a look at the war configs and they are named
 differently, still not sure what to put in here




http://www.terracotta.org/confluence/display/docs1/Integrations+Spring#IntegrationsSpring-Howtouseit

 Dan Rossi wrote:

 Ok damn, just checked out the samples and seems like its going to
take

 a

 while to learn to integrate with spring, in a standalone and tomcat
 situation. Ill just continue on this custom stats logging and come

 back

 to it :)

 Dan Rossi wrote:


 Hi Im going to be looking at this scenario very shortly, however
does
 this setup have its own caching and RMI mechanisms , or will I
still

 be

 using the internal one setup in red5. What is the benefits of
using
 something like this with tomcat as oppose to stand alone ? I do
find

 it

 a PIA to make the updates i need, where a war file into tomcat is
so
 much simpler just to update the server and applications.

  From looking at the demonstration video, im curious to know if
its
 going to be  possible for red5 apps to share the same published

 names.

 Ie, publish a broadcast to our load balancer ip which chooses a

 server

 and then starts archiving to our SAN, and then the subscribers are

 also

 connected to the load balancer, and when a broadcast has happened,

 all

 connected clients will get the call being sent from the
application

 to

 switch to the stream. This would be most interesting to see if its
 possible.

 Let me know what others may be doing with it.

 thanks.

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Re: [Red5] Terracotta + Red5

[Steven Gong]

Hi Eugene,
Thanks for your mail. The problem I got when trying to cluster the server is
not related to Spring really but is due to the broadcasting between the
server nodes. We have a Subscribers with Broadcaster model in both live
stream and shared object cases, where one broadcaster needs to broadcast
events to several subscribers that might be connected to different server
nodes.

Currently for a non-clustering version, we use a list for subscribers that
have subscribed to a specific broadcaster but I don't know how to use TC to
cluster this model. Do you have any idea about this problem?

On 5/19/07, Eugene Kuleshov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Guys,

  I am one of the developers who implemented Spring support for Terracotta
DSO, and I have really good idea what it can and what it can't do. On the
other hand I know really little about red5, so please bear with me. :-)

  So, can you please explain to me what data exactly you need to cluster
in
red5?

  Can you also elaborate on what makes it difficult for you to learn for
to
integrate Spring?

  Also, I don't quite understand your concerns about standalone vs. tomcat
(or other web servers). It is your own choice actually and Terracotta
works
in both cases.

  It might be easier for you to get your questions answered in the
Terracotta mailing lists (tc-user or tc-dev) that you can subscribe to at
http://terracotta.org/confluence/display/orgsite/Mailing+Lists

  regards,
  Eugene



Dan Rossi-5 wrote:

 I think i hit a wall already, in this integration examples it says to
 load an application context file , im assuming its the red5-web.xml for
 each webapp, however all the bean id's are named the same ie
 web.handler, i took a look at the war configs and they are named
 differently, still not sure what to put in here


http://www.terracotta.org/confluence/display/docs1/Integrations+Spring#IntegrationsSpring-Howtouseit

 Dan Rossi wrote:
 Ok damn, just checked out the samples and seems like its going to take
a
 while to learn to integrate with spring, in a standalone and tomcat
 situation. Ill just continue on this custom stats logging and come back
 to it :)

 Dan Rossi wrote:

 Hi Im going to be looking at this scenario very shortly, however does
 this setup have its own caching and RMI mechanisms , or will I still
be
 using the internal one setup in red5. What is the benefits of using
 something like this with tomcat as oppose to stand alone ? I do find
it
 a PIA to make the updates i need, where a war file into tomcat is so
 much simpler just to update the server and applications.

  From looking at the demonstration video, im curious to know if its
 going to be  possible for red5 apps to share the same published names.
 Ie, publish a broadcast to our load balancer ip which chooses a server
 and then starts archiving to our SAN, and then the subscribers are
also
 connected to the load balancer, and when a broadcast has happened, all
 connected clients will get the call being sent from the application to
 switch to the stream. This would be most interesting to see if its
 possible.

 Let me know what others may be doing with it.

 thanks.

 Dan


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Re: [Red5] ServerStream app avaialble

[Steven Gong]

Hi Lenny,

On 5/17/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Steven,

Question about creating a ticket for this app.

Since this is a native Flex 2 builder, do you think I need to also include
a build.xml for those
users who don't have Flex 2  Builder but do use Flex2-sdk?



Sure, that'll be great if you include a build.xml for your build.

If so I will also include that as well.


After that I will create the ticket and attached the app and related swf.

Subsequent to that I will notify you and let you know the ticket is
created.



Thanks for your contribution Lenny! :-)

Thanks,


Lenny


On 5/9/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lenny,
 Thanks for your app. If you'd like, you can create a ticket on JIRA and
 attach your application and related swf to it. I can help you to check the
 code to SVN as an example of server side stream.

  On 5/10/07, Lenny Sorey  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hello All,
 
  I have placed the Flex 2 serverStream app player on my ftp at the
  following
  that I have been testing for the past couple of days.
 
  ftp://www.fatdot.com/
 
  username: red5
  password: red5
 
 
  You will need to create a tv folder as follows:
 
  red5/webapps/tv and place the application
 
  Basically, I copied the red5/webapps/oflaDemo  and removed what I
  didn't need.
 
  Then I added the Application.java and Playtester.java into the
  following folder:
 
  red5\webapps\tv\WEB-INF\src\org\red5\server\webapp\tv
 
  I edited my build.xml to add in the necessary build info for the tv
  folder and built the
  app with ant as a webwar, exploded the red5 war file and dropped it
  into Tomcat webapps folder.
 
  The tv Flex 2 app was rebuilt with the IP address of 127.0.0.1. If you
  want to change this IP address
  you will need either Flex Builder 2.01 or you can just change the IP
  address and rebuild it with flex_sdk_2 (it's free from Adobe)
  and ANT.
 
  If anyone can find an answer as to why this app sputters and sometime
  pauses, please let me know
 
  I cannot find any problems that relates to the sputter or pauses in
  the logs..
 
  One thing to be aware of, when you start your Jetty or Tomcat service,
  this app starts running so if you access
  the tv.html you will enter in whereever the app in in any of the
  videos running. I only used the videos that come with
  RED5. If you don't  want to stream from the default stream folder you
  will need to change this is the application.java file.
 
  This is a good ole live0 app.
 
  Hope you find this app useful.
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: [Red5] one serverstream for all consumers

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Dirk,
The server side stream is just for all subscribers not a particular
subscriber. And to repeat your file, you can call ServerStream.setRepeat
(true).

On 5/17/07, Dirk Rudolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi there,


perhaps someone can point me in the right direction. I am trying to
create one serverstream for all consumers, that plays one file in a loop.
Right now i can only get a serverstream, that plays for each subscriber
individually, using the code from the oflaDemo.

Are there any examples to get this working out of the box or do i have
to implement such a function by myself?

I am grateful for any idea on this one, thx
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Re: [Red5] Problem with Red5 on video on demand streaming of larger files

[Steven Gong]

David,
If you are using release 0.5, I don't have any idea about why you got out of
memory error while playing big VOD files. We haven't done the similar tests
at that time. We did have implemented some FLV caching before but that was
after the release 0.5. (The revision for 0.5 is r1233 but the FLV caching
code was added on r1400 and the problem because of this caching code was
fixed on r1556 and r1578)

If it's possible, I recommend you to try 0.6. I believe this issue is fixed
on that release.

On 5/11/07, David Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

we recently used the 0.5 version of Red5 for some kind of on demand
streaming server.
That was some time before the final version of 0.6 was released.

The problem was that we used movies up to 200MB in size being streamed
up to something like 50 clients.
We never got that far, because we got massivly out of memory errors and
it appeared that red5 0.5 loads
one movie per stream completely into memory instead of sharing the file
or reading small chunks from the filesystem.

At this time there was only an early 0.6 release candidate available
which improved the whole thing a bit though the
memory load was very high and red5 crashes after some few hours.
I've read at this time about some change talking about the use of bigger
chunks instead of the whole file.

Maybe i'm wrong here with my supposition, but is it the case that Red5
is not designed to handle such a case, having
many clients streaming larger movies?

I admit i din't gave the final 0.6 version a try yet, because our
service is productive and we currently offer only small
size on demand videos to the clients where no problem exists at all. The
normal usage is somwhat between 20 and 80 clients.
So we can't use our user as testers for new versions of Red5.

What i need to know is:
Is this a known problem? Maybe already fixed by some sort of newly
implemented prefetch, cache and share thing?
Or is it a to do subject?

Thanks for your support.
Regards,David.

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Re: [Red5] RES: Running r1975 with success!

[Steven Gong]

Nathan,

On 5/12/07, Nathan P. Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


For what it's worth, I'm happy to read such promising results from this
particular revision.

On the other hand, I switched over to it, ran it for the past twenty
hours, and had to restart it seven times because large video on demand
streams started to hang after the first two seconds of playback.



How big is the VOD file?

Probably two different sorts of issues, but again, it's nice to know that

the web cam and other live feeds work well with this revision.

Nate


On Fri, 11 May 2007, Luiz Filipe wrote:

 Hi Klaus, Red5 team and users.

 More feedback about my application:

 We have been running r1975 as well since last Sunday without restart or
 freeze issue.

 Our average connected users are 600.
 CPU 15 - 30%
 Memory: 40%

 Server:
 1 cpu P4 HT
 2 GB Ram
 RedHat Fedora Core 5
 100Mb bandwidth

 Best Regards,

 Luiz Filipe.



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 Assunto: [Red5] Running r1975 with success!


 Hi list,


 Just to let you know.  I've been running r1975 since May05 without
restart.

 Red5 is running simple live webcam, with 10-60 connections and the
 stream is smooth.
 No stutter every 1-2 seconds or worse which was before.

 CPU percent : 0.0%
 Memory percent 1.8%

 Server:
  Ibm x346,
  2x3.2Ghz CPU,
  2 GB ram,
  redhat enterprise

 also running,
  apache, mysql,php
  lighttpd
  Flash Communication server ( for some old apps)
  irc server

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Re: [Red5] Chris Allen's discussion at FITC on Video

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Cool! Thanks John for this information and thanks Chris for this great
presentation. This makes us all feel even more proud of our deliverables to
the community and to the world!

Still waiting for your show in FITC 2007, John. ;-)

On 5/11/07, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=823375949channel=5957394

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Re: [Red5] Chris Allen's discussion at FITC on Video

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On 5/11/07, Joachim Bauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


John Grden schrieb:
 http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=823375949channel=5957394

Great presentation Chris! Too bad the screen is mostly all white in
the video.



Audio is clear. Maybe the screen is too light?

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Re: [Red5] Seperate configs for sub scopes possible ?

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And the logger should also be maintained in Scope, say Scope.getScopeLogger().
The Connection and Stream that belong to the scope need to obtain the logger
by getScope().getScopeLogger() and then do the logging stuff.

On 5/9/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ahh i already do for the application level logging. So whatever is
logged at the application level is going to a seperate file its outside
the root logger cat. I guess i need to setup a category for each
subscope i want to log and then somehow set its category  before logging ?

ie /myapp/scope1 will log stats data to /logs/scope1/red5_timestamp.log

and

/myapp/scope2 will log stats data to /logs/scope2/red5_timestamp.log

here is my apps log4j.xml currently so none of the root categories from
the red5 server logs gets added

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
!DOCTYPE log4j:configuration SYSTEM log4j.dtd
log4j:configuration

  appender name=STATS class=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender
param name=Threshold value=INFO/
layout class=logging.W3CPatternLayout
param name=Fields
value=field1,field3,field2/
param name=Delimiter
value=\t/
/layout
/appender



appender name=APP class=org.apache.log4j.DailyRollingFileAppender

param name=File value=${vod.root}/logs/application/app.log/
param name=DatePattern value='.'-MM-dd/
param name=Threshold value=INFO/

layout class=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
param name=ConversionPattern
value=[%p] %r %t:( %c{1}.%M ) %m %n/
/layout
filter class=org.apache.log4j.varia.LevelRangeFilter
param name=LevelMin value=INFO/
/filter

/appender


logger name=stats.VODApplication
level value=INFO/
appender-ref ref=STATS/
/logger

logger name=app.VODApplication
level value=INFO/
appender-ref ref=APP/
/logger

logger name=generator.FileNameGenerator
level value=INFO/
appender-ref ref=APP/
/logger
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Steven Gong wrote:


 On 5/9/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi i was wondering if its possible to create seperate config files
for
 sub scopes in an application ? Id like to be able to set different
 log4j
 settings so each sub scope has its own config file. Possible ? I
guess
 this is a spring question correct ? Or does red5 specifically load
the
 config files ?


 If you want the log4j specific settings, I am afraid it's not possible
 currently as Red5 uses a single conf file for log4j. It's possible to
 separate the log files for different scopes but might need an
 enhancement of the logger category and logger creation.

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Re: [Red5] Seperate configs for sub scopes possible ?

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On 5/9/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I cant see those methods you mentioned, is that a question ?



No, the method I mentioned doesn't exist. I just provided a possible
solution for Scope-level logging.

I guess that could also work if I can dynamically set the sub scope name

as the category to log to for logging to different files ?



I think a good solution might be: the scope initializes a logger first
(whether dynamic or static) and all the objects that are contained in the
scope will use that logger. This is how concerns are well separated.

Steven Gong wrote:

 And the logger should also be maintained in Scope, say
 Scope.getScopeLogger(). The Connection and Stream that belong to the
 scope need to obtain the logger by getScope().getScopeLogger() and
 then do the logging stuff.

 On 5/9/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ahh i already do for the application level logging. So whatever is
 logged at the application level is going to a seperate file its
 outside
 the root logger cat. I guess i need to setup a category for each
 subscope i want to log and then somehow set its category  before
 logging ?

 ie /myapp/scope1 will log stats data to
 /logs/scope1/red5_timestamp.log

 and

 /myapp/scope2 will log stats data to /logs/scope2/red5_timestamp.log

 here is my apps log4j.xml currently so none of the root categories
 from
 the red5 server logs gets added

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
 !DOCTYPE log4j:configuration SYSTEM log4j.dtd
 log4j:configuration

   appender name=STATS class= org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender
 param name=Threshold value=INFO/
 layout class=logging.W3CPatternLayout
 param name=Fields
 value=field1,field3,field2/
 param name=Delimiter
 value=\t/
 /layout
 /appender



 appender name=APP
 class=org.apache.log4j.DailyRollingFileAppender
 param name=File
 value=${vod.root}/logs/application/app.log/
 param name=DatePattern value='.'-MM-dd/
 param name=Threshold value=INFO/

 layout class=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
 param name=ConversionPattern
 value=[%p] %r %t:( %c{1}.%M ) %m %n/
 /layout
 filter class=org.apache.log4j.varia.LevelRangeFilter
 param name=LevelMin value=INFO/
 /filter

 /appender


 logger name=stats.VODApplication
 level value=INFO/
 appender-ref ref=STATS/
 /logger

 logger name=app.VODApplication
 level value=INFO/
 appender-ref ref=APP/
 /logger

 logger name=generator.FileNameGenerator 
 level value=INFO/
 appender-ref ref=APP/
 /logger
 /log4j:configuration




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  On 5/9/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Hi i was wondering if its possible to create seperate config
 files for
  sub scopes in an application ? Id like to be able to set
 different
  log4j
  settings so each sub scope has its own config file. Possible
 ? I guess
  this is a spring question correct ? Or does red5
 specifically load the
  config files ?
 
 
  If you want the log4j specific settings, I am afraid it's not
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  currently as Red5 uses a single conf file for log4j. It's
 possible to
  separate the log files for different scopes but might need an
  enhancement of the logger category and logger creation.
 
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Re: [Red5] Seperate configs for sub scopes possible ?

[Steven Gong]

Sure, go ahead please. :-)

On 5/9/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Should i put in a feature request ?

Steven Gong wrote:

 On 5/9/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I cant see those methods you mentioned, is that a question ?


 No, the method I mentioned doesn't exist. I just provided a possible
 solution for Scope-level logging.

 I guess that could also work if I can dynamically set the sub
 scope name
 as the category to log to for logging to different files ?


 I think a good solution might be: the scope initializes a logger first
 (whether dynamic or static) and all the objects that are contained in
 the scope will use that logger. This is how concerns are well separated.

 Steven Gong wrote:
  And the logger should also be maintained in Scope, say
  Scope.getScopeLogger(). The Connection and Stream that belong to
the
  scope need to obtain the logger by getScope().getScopeLogger() and
  then do the logging stuff.
 
  On 5/9/07, *Dan Rossi*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Ahh i already do for the application level logging. So
 whatever is
  logged at the application level is going to a seperate file
its
  outside
  the root logger cat. I guess i need to setup a category for
each
  subscope i want to log and then somehow set its
 category  before
  logging ?
 
  ie /myapp/scope1 will log stats data to
  /logs/scope1/red5_timestamp.log
 
  and
 
  /myapp/scope2 will log stats data to
 /logs/scope2/red5_timestamp.log
 
  here is my apps log4j.xml currently so none of the root
 categories
  from
  the red5 server logs gets added
 
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
  !DOCTYPE log4j:configuration SYSTEM log4j.dtd
  log4j:configuration
 
appender name=STATS class=
 org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender 
  param name=Threshold value=INFO/
  layout class=logging.W3CPatternLayout
  param name=Fields
  value=field1,field3,field2/
  param name=Delimiter
  value=\t/
  /layout
  /appender
 
 
 
  appender name=APP
  class=org.apache.log4j.DailyRollingFileAppender
  param name=File
  value=${vod.root}/logs/application/app.log/
  param name=DatePattern value='.'-MM-dd/
  param name=Threshold value=INFO/
 
  layout class=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
  param name=ConversionPattern
  value=[%p] %r %t:( %c{1}.%M ) %m %n/
  /layout
  filter class=org.apache.log4j.varia.LevelRangeFilter

  param name=LevelMin value=INFO/
  /filter
 
  /appender
 
 
  logger name=stats.VODApplication
  level value=INFO/
  appender-ref ref=STATS/
  /logger
 
  logger name=app.VODApplication
  level value=INFO/
  appender-ref ref=APP/
  /logger
 
  logger name=generator.FileNameGenerator 
  level value=INFO/
  appender-ref ref=APP/
  /logger
  /log4j:configuration
 
 
 
 
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   On 5/9/07, *Dan Rossi* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  wrote:
  
   Hi i was wondering if its possible to create seperate
 config
  files for
   sub scopes in an application ? Id like to be able to set
  different
   log4j
   settings so each sub scope has its own config file.
 Possible
  ? I guess
   this is a spring question correct ? Or does red5
  specifically load the
   config files ?
  
  
   If you want the log4j specific settings, I am afraid it's
not
  possible
   currently as Red5 uses a single conf file for log4j. It's
  possible to
   separate the log files for different scopes but might need
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Re: [Red5] ServerStream app avaialble

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Lenny,
Thanks for your app. If you'd like, you can create a ticket on JIRA and
attach your application and related swf to it. I can help you to check the
code to SVN as an example of server side stream.

On 5/10/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello All,

I have placed the Flex 2 serverStream app player on my ftp at the
following
that I have been testing for the past couple of days.

ftp://www.fatdot.com/

username: red5
password: red5


You will need to create a tv folder as follows:

red5/webapps/tv and place the application

Basically, I copied the red5/webapps/oflaDemo  and removed what I didn't
need.

Then I added the Application.java and Playtester.java into the following
folder:

red5\webapps\tv\WEB-INF\src\org\red5\server\webapp\tv

I edited my build.xml to add in the necessary build info for the tv folder
and built the
app with ant as a webwar, exploded the red5 war file and dropped it into
Tomcat webapps folder.

The tv Flex 2 app was rebuilt with the IP address of 127.0.0.1. If you
want to change this IP address
you will need either Flex Builder 2.01 or you can just change the IP
address and rebuild it with flex_sdk_2 (it's free from Adobe)
and ANT.

If anyone can find an answer as to why this app sputters and sometime
pauses, please let me know

I cannot find any problems that relates to the sputter or pauses in the
logs..

One thing to be aware of, when you start your Jetty or Tomcat service,
this app starts running so if you access
the tv.html you will enter in whereever the app in in any of the videos
running. I only used the videos that come with
RED5. If you don't  want to stream from the default stream folder you will
need to change this is the application.java file.

This is a good ole live0 app.

Hope you find this app useful.

Regards,

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Re: [Red5] Adobes FLVchecker

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On 5/10/07, Dominick Accattato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Correct, we won't use it.  The only use case would be to make sure the
recorded flv is perfect, however thats not a Red5 issue.  Either way its
good to know how and when you can use a tool.  Thanks Joachim for finding
that.



Yep, I think Paul's original intention is just a FYI for the list and I
believe this should be a good tool in itself.

On 5/9/07, Interalab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If all it does is verify the file format of an .flv file, then you're
 not using it with Red5.

 Joachim Bauch wrote:
  Mondain schrieb:
 
  FYI
  http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flvcheck.html
 
 
  I'm no lawyer, but doesn't that section prevent it from being
  used in any way with Red5?
 
  4.3 General Restrictions. You may only use the Software to
  verify that the FLV Files have been encoded to allow for
  uninterrupted playback using the Flash Media Server.
  You may not use the Software in any way to create a server,
  executable, or other program that will steam or deliver data
  and/or content from a client to a server, from a server to
  another server, or from a server to a client. You may not
  use the Software with any other Adobe or third party software,
  except Flash Media Server.  You may not distribute the
  Software and Documentation to any third party.
 
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Re: [Red5] IStreamFlow missing from ISubscriberStream

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Hi Dan,
Yes, it's been removed after the logic of tracking the client buffer is
enhanced. We assumed that the StreamFlow only aims to control the client
buffer and didn't notice that it's been exposed as an API. It seems that we
need to add this functionality back. Thanks for the reminder.

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Hi , any ideas where it went, its definitely missing from the source, so
we are unable to obtain streaming information anymore ? The
getStreamFlow method is gone.

Dan Rossi wrote:
 Hi there, im trying to again revisit implementing a W3C log of stream
 stats for our next server application which will need this kind of
 logging like with FMS. Ive noticed that getStreamFlow is now missing
 from ISubscriberStream, where can i find it now ? I tried this but no
luck

 IStreamFlow streamStats = (IStreamFlow)stream;

 streamStats.getTotalStreamTime()

 I noticed there is nothing added into the statistics package yet about
 any kind of stream information, just about how many SO are loaded which
 is not so useful. Let me know and ill try and add it in.

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Re: [Red5] RED5 Playlist and ServerSide - some info that may help you

[Steven Gong]

Stanislaw,
I have updated the ServerStream.java hoping to fix the problem you got.

The list,
if you have used or will use ServerStream to implement features like stream
switching on server side, could you please help test ServerStream to see if
it works as expected? Thanks.

Below is a conceptual method that could be put to Application class, which
implements a server side stream named live1 created after the publishing
of live stream live0. live1 takes two items, the live0 and a VOD. A
timer with interval 10s will trigger a switching between the two items. It
works fine here.

   public void streamPublishStart(IBroadcastStream stream) {
   if (live0.equals(stream.getPublishedName())) {
   serverStream = StreamUtils.createServerStream(appScope,
live1);
   SimplePlayItem item = new SimplePlayItem();
   item.setStart(-2);
   item.setLength(-1);
   item.setName(live0);
   serverStream.addItem(item);
   item = new SimplePlayItem();
   item.setStart(1);
   item.setLength(30);
   item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
   serverStream.addItem(item);
   serverStream.setRewind(true);
   serverStream.start();
   ISchedulingService service = (ISchedulingService)
serverStream.getScope().getContext().getBean(ISchedulingService.BEAN_NAME);
   jobName = service.addScheduledJob(1, new IScheduledJob() {
   public void execute(ISchedulingService service) throws
CloneNotSupportedException {
   // switch it
   serverStream.setItem(1 -
serverStream.getCurrentItemIndex());
   }
   });
   }
   }

On 5/8/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Stanislaw,
I did the following and not find anything abnormal with the
ServerSideStream. I prepared a playlist of 100 items this thus:
public void streamPublishStart(IBroadcastStream stream) {
if (live0.equals(stream.getPublishedName())) {
serverStream = StreamUtils.createServerStream(appScope,
live1);
for (int i = 0; i  100; i++) {
SimplePlayItem item = new SimplePlayItem();
item.setStart(-2);
item.setLength(2);
item.setName(live0);
serverStream.addItem(item);
item = new SimplePlayItem();
item.setStart(1);
item.setLength(1);
item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
serverStream.addItem(item);
}
serverStream.start();
}
}

I don't know if this is your scenario. I want to know what is exactly your
usage model for the server stream.

On 5/8/07, Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stanislaw,
 Sorry but I don't know how to use your client application as I don't
 have the flex dev env and I know little about swf. I will look into the
 issues you mentioned. The lag of the live stream is also seen here and I am
 trying to get it fixed.

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   Hi!
  Here is the testApp the java code and the Flex code (also with a
  compiled swf) it connects to rtmp://localhost:1935/switcherApp
  I hope it's gonna help you
  BR
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Re: [Red5] ServerStream Test

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On 5/9/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The second clip switched nicely with a second of pause, however it lost
its audio, near the end it got audio for when the server is set to
repeat and got a heap of audio artifacts, ive experienced the same thing
with the server playlist going nuts so canned it.

Cant really see a serrver side stream/playlist being used as an
ad-insertion feature because the stream is live so is not playing at the
start when its requested :) If somehow this feature could be added as an
xml template server side playlist file that would be interesting

so

file src=ad1.flv
file src={requested file }
file src=ad2.flv

or if files can be prepended and appended to the file being requested
that would be interesting also not that i need ad-insertion but
aparantly some do.



This is interesting. It's a customized VOD rather than a server side live
stream. When a requested file is requested, create a playlist on the fly
by adding items ad1 requested file and ad2 to the list and streaming
to the client.

I will put this as a new feature to wiki.

Lenny Sorey wrote:

 I have a Flex 2 app that can be tested.

 http://www.fatdot.com:8080/red5/tv1.html

 Please let me know how it runs for you.

 It's from Jan Muller (Honza)'s Flex app that was tested a couple of
 week's ago.

 Jan gave me a copy to test with the ServerStream portion of Red5.

 I have made a few changes to the app and would like to test it now.

 To tell you the truth, I am not sure how this will test.

 On some of my client machines it splits and spudders.

 On a different machine it plays without any problems.

 Try out the full screen feature, the graphics are pretty nice.

 I will make the source available for this app tomorrow afternoon for
 those who
 want to test and improve.

 One request, I ask if you make any improvement to the app I would like
 to have a copy back
 as I am also still learning Flash, Flex and Red5. I would also like
 for Honza to receive a copy of any
 improvement anyone makes to this app.


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Re: [Red5] Seperate configs for sub scopes possible ?

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On 5/9/07, Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi i was wondering if its possible to create seperate config files for
sub scopes in an application ? Id like to be able to set different log4j
settings so each sub scope has its own config file. Possible ? I guess
this is a spring question correct ? Or does red5 specifically load the
config files ?



If you want the log4j specific settings, I am afraid it's not possible
currently as Red5 uses a single conf file for log4j. It's possible to
separate the log files for different scopes but might need an enhancement of
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Re: [Red5] stress test results

[Steven Gong]

From the link Luke provided below, it seems that the culprit is the Option

ROM in the e1000. So it should be a hardware issue.

Bill, are you using the Intel 82573E 1G network card in your test?

On 5/8/07, Luke Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Bill,

Thanks for running this test. The cpu numbers are promising if we can
fix this other issue. Can you provide deals of how much memory the
red5 process was using.

To be clear every time the server died it didn't hang its process
died. That is very odd, if there was some exception it should have
been logged. I suspect something happened in a native networking code
which killed the java process. I googled those errors you got in your
system logs and found this..

http://osdir.com/ml/linux.drivers.e1000.devel/2007-01/msg00133.html

http://www.kaltenbrunner.cc/blog/index.php?/archives/8-fixing-e1000-TX-transmit-timeouts-at-least-some-of-them.html

Sounds like it might be possible to fix the error by adjusting the nic
settings.

Is anyone else getting experiencing the same symptoms?
Process dieing without hanging or throwing any errors? If so please speak
up.

Luke

On 5/8/07, Interalab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Schoenaker and I ran a little stress test this morning and wanted to
 share our results.  Rob, feel free to add to or correct me if you want.

 This was a test of one publishing live stream client and many
 subscribing clients.

 Here's the server config:

 Xubuntu Linux
 AMD 64 3500+ processor
 4 GB RAM
 Red 5 trunk ver 1961
 Gbit Internet connection

 Client side:

  From the other side of the world . . .
 Lots of available bandwidth

 The first run choked the server at 256 simultaneous connections.  They
 were 250k - 450k live streams.

 After a re-boot, we got up into the 300 + connections.  This time the
 resolution was lower, so the average bandwidth per stream was about 150k

 Server looked like this:
 Cpu(s): 12.0%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 84.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  1.7%si,
 0.0%st
  Mem:   3976784k total,  1085004k used,  2891780k free, 7896k
buffers
  Swap:  2819368k total,0k used,  2819368k free,   193740k cached

 After about 15 minutes, and over 400 connections, Red5 quit without any
 log errors.  The Java PID just went away.  Had a bunch of these in
 dmesg:  e1000: eth1: e1000_clean_tx_irq: Detected Tx Unit Hang

 Started Red5 by running red5.sh without re-booting the server.  It came
 right back up and started streaming again.

 This time, we set the resolution to 80x60, or about 60-80 kbps per
stream.

 Rob tried to crash it by launching about 200 connections in about 10
 seconds, but it kept running.  It didn't die again.

 Final outcome of the last test:

 627 concurrent connections peak
 approx 1100 connections total (some dropped when browsers crashed under
 the load, etc.)

 At the peak, player buffers started to get big.  Some as high as 70,
 most of mine were in the 30's.

 So, my observation is that even though the server and available
 bandwidth didn't seem to be stressed too much - lots of memory and cpu %
 in the teens, the larger the individual streams, the fewer total
 connections we could make.

 Not very scientific, but we thought it was worth sharing with the list.

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Re: [Red5] adding a live stream to the PlayList (on the server-side) - how??

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stf,
I think you'd better add the live stream when it's been published. To
achieve that, you can put the serverStream.addItem() call in
streamPublishStart() callback from IStreamAwareScopeHandler. This interface
can be implemented by your Application class.

On 5/3/07, Stanislaw Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi!
I need to add a live stream (that is not being recorded) to a playlist on
the server-side - but there is a problem with it..
When it comes  to prerecorded streams there is no problem when I do it
like
that:

   serverStream = StreamUtils.createServerStream(appScope, live0);
   SimplePlayItem item = new SimplePlayItem();
   item.setStart(0);
   item.setLength(1);
   item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
   serverStream.addItem(item);
...
   item = new SimplePlayItem();
   item.setStart(2);
   item.setLength(1);
   item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
   serverStream.addItem(item);
   serverStream.start();

But if I try to add a live stream:

item = new SimplePlayItem();
   //item.setStart(2);
   //item.setLength(1);
   item.setName
(the_name_of_the_live_stream_which_is_the_same_as_the_publish_name_of_the_stream);
   serverStream.addItem(item);

Then red5 can't find the stream and doesn't add it to the playlist.

But if i publish the live stream and record it then it works.

Of course I would like to add the stream also when it's not being
recorded.

So if you know how to manage it I would be very thankful for your help.
(It is very urgent :/)

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Re: [Red5] Error With latest Trunk Update

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Lenny,
Are you sure that the mina you were using is 1.1.0? We've upgraded mina jars
recently from 1.0.1 to 1.1.0.

On 5/3/07, Lenny Sorey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello All,

I have the following error message in my logs regarding the startup of
RED5 and RED5 will not startup with webwar build.

Anyone else having this problem?

Regards,

Lenny

Platform:

Tomcat 5.5
Java 1.6
Trunk 1845

*

[INFO] 0 Thread-1:( org.springframework.core.CollectionFactory.clinit )
JDK 1.4+ collections available
[INFO] 0 Thread-1:( org.springframework.core.CollectionFactory.clinit )
Commons Collections 3.x available
[INFO] 2110 Thread-1:(
org.springframework.beans.factory.config.PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer.loadProperties)
 Loading properties file from class path resource [
red5.properties]
[INFO] 2156 Thread-1:(
org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactory.preInstantiateSingletons)
 Pre-instantiating singletons in factory [
org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactorydefining 
beans [
global.clientRegistry,global.serviceInvoker,global.mappingStrategy,
global.context,global.handler,global.scope,red5.scopeResolver,web.context,
web.scope,red5.server,serializer,deserializer,statusObjectService,rtmpCodecFactory,remotingCodecFactory,videoCodecFactory,streamableFileFactory,sharedObjectService,streamService,providerService,consumerService,BWControlService,schedulingService,threadFactory,remotingPool,
object.cache,keyframe.cache,flv.impl,
org.springframework.beans.factory.config.MethodInvokingFactoryBean,
org.springframework.beans.factory.config.MethodInvokingFactoryBean#1,
flvreader.impl,mp3reader.impl,streamExecutor,playlistSubscriberStream,clientBroadcastStream,customEditorConfigurer,placeholderConfig,rtmpHandler,rtmpMinaIoHandler,rtmpTransport,rtmpMinaConnection,rtmptHandler,rtmptConnection,
echo.context,echo.scope,echo.handler,tv.context,tv.scope,tv.handler,
fitcDemo.context,fitcDemo.scope,fitcDemo.handler,SOSample.context,
SOSample.scope,SOSample.handler,tutorial.context,tutorial.scope,
tutorial.handler,ofla.context ,ofla.scope,ofla.handler,demoService.service];
root of BeanFactory hierarchy]
[INFO] 3031 Thread-1:( org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaTransport.start )
RTMP Mina Transport Settings
[INFO] 3031 Thread-1:( org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaTransport.start )
IO Threads: 1+1
[INFO] 3031 Thread-1:( org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaTransport.start )
Event Threads: core: 16+1 max: 32+1 queue: -1 keepalive: 60
[INFO] 3110 Thread-1:(
org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactory.destroySingletons)
 Destroying singletons in {
org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactorydefining 
beans [
global.clientRegistry,global.serviceInvoker,global.mappingStrategy,
global.context,global.handler,global.scope ,red5.scopeResolver,web.context
,web.scope,red5.server,serializer,deserializer,statusObjectService,rtmpCodecFactory,remotingCodecFactory,videoCodecFactory,streamableFileFactory,sharedObjectService,streamService,providerService,consumerService,BWControlService,schedulingService,threadFactory,remotingPool,
object.cache,keyframe.cache,flv.impl,
org.springframework.beans.factory.config.MethodInvokingFactoryBean,
org.springframework.beans.factory.config.MethodInvokingFactoryBean#1,
flvreader.impl,mp3reader.impl,streamExecutor,playlistSubscriberStream,clientBroadcastStream,customEditorConfigurer,placeholderConfig,rtmpHandler,rtmpMinaIoHandler,rtmpTransport,rtmpMinaConnection,rtmptHandler,rtmptConnection,
echo.context,echo.scope,echo.handler,tv.context,tv.scope,tv.handler,
fitcDemo.context,fitcDemo.scope,fitcDemo.handler,SOSample.context,
SOSample.scope,SOSample.handler,tutorial.context,tutorial.scope,
tutorial.handler,ofla.context ,ofla.scope,ofla.handler,demoService.service];
root of BeanFactory hierarchy}
[ERROR] 3110 Thread-1:( org.red5.server.MainServlet.contextInitialized )
org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating
bean with name 'rtmpTransport' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/red5- core.xml]: Invocation of init method failed; nested
exception is java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
org.apache.mina.transport.socket.nio.SocketAcceptor.getDefaultConfig()Lorg/apache/mina/transport/socket/nio/SocketAcceptorConfig;




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Re: [Red5] adding a live stream to the PlayList (on theserver-side) - how??

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On 5/3/07, Stanislaw Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Steven,
I already add the live stream to the playlist after the live stream is
published.. but it doesn't work (with 0.6rc2).

With 0.6final while playing the VOD stream from the playlist the audio is
there but the video looks like some snapshots :/ you can't even call it
video, it looked MUCH better with 0.6rc2.



You mean the VOD in ServerStream or VOD in a normal subscriber stream?

(adding the live stream to the playlist doesn't work on 0.6final)


There are also some problems when broadcastig from Flex - the video is
also crappy...

Any idea why?




- Original Message -
*From:* Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* Red5@osflash.org
*Sent:* Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Red5] adding a live stream to the PlayList (on
theserver-side) - how??

stf,
I think you'd better add the live stream when it's been published. To
achieve that, you can put the serverStream.addItem() call in
streamPublishStart() callback from IStreamAwareScopeHandler. This interface
can be implemented by your Application class.

On 5/3/07, Stanislaw Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 I need to add a live stream (that is not being recorded) to a playlist
 on
 the server-side - but there is a problem with it..
 When it comes  to prerecorded streams there is no problem when I do it
 like
 that:

serverStream = StreamUtils.createServerStream(appScope, live0);
SimplePlayItem item = new SimplePlayItem();
item.setStart(0);
item.setLength(1);
item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
serverStream.addItem(item);
 ...
item = new SimplePlayItem();
item.setStart(2);
item.setLength(1);
item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
serverStream.addItem(item);
serverStream.start();

 But if I try to add a live stream:

 item = new SimplePlayItem();
//item.setStart(2);
//item.setLength(1);

item.setName(the_name_of_the_live_stream_which_is_the_same_as_the_publish_name_of_the_stream);

serverStream.addItem(item);

 Then red5 can't find the stream and doesn't add it to the playlist.

 But if i publish the live stream and record it then it works.

 Of course I would like to add the stream also when it's not being
 recorded.

 So if you know how to manage it I would be very thankful for your help.
 (It is very urgent :/)

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Re: [Red5] adding a live stream to the PlayList (on theserver-side)- how??

[Steven Gong]

Ok, I will try this out later. I have tried this functionality before
0.6final release and didn't get any problem.

On 5/3/07, Stanislaw Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I mean the VOD in ServerStream

- Original Message -
*From:* Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:58 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Red5] adding a live stream to the PlayList (on
theserver-side)- how??



On 5/3/07, Stanislaw Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi Steven,
 I already add the live stream to the playlist after the live stream is
 published.. but it doesn't work (with 0.6rc2).

 With 0.6final while playing the VOD stream from the playlist the audio
 is there but the video looks like some snapshots :/ you can't even call it
 video, it looked MUCH better with 0.6rc2.


You mean the VOD in ServerStream or VOD in a normal subscriber stream?

 (adding the live stream to the playlist doesn't work on 0.6final)

 There are also some problems when broadcastig from Flex - the video is
 also crappy...

 Any idea why?




  - Original Message -
 *From:* Steven Gong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* Red5@osflash.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:06 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Red5] adding a live stream to the PlayList (on
 theserver-side) - how??

 stf,
 I think you'd better add the live stream when it's been published. To
 achieve that, you can put the serverStream.addItem() call in
 streamPublishStart() callback from IStreamAwareScopeHandler. This interface
 can be implemented by your Application class.

 On 5/3/07, Stanislaw Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi!
  I need to add a live stream (that is not being recorded) to a playlist
  on
  the server-side - but there is a problem with it..
  When it comes  to prerecorded streams there is no problem when I do it
  like
  that:
 
 serverStream = StreamUtils.createServerStream(appScope, live0);
 SimplePlayItem item = new SimplePlayItem();
 item.setStart(0);
 item.setLength(1);
 item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
 serverStream.addItem(item);
  ...
 item = new SimplePlayItem();
 item.setStart(2);
 item.setLength(1);
 item.setName(on2_flash8_w_audio);
 serverStream.addItem(item);
 serverStream.start();
 
  But if I try to add a live stream:
 
  item = new SimplePlayItem();
 //item.setStart(2);
 //item.setLength(1);
 
item.setName(the_name_of_the_live_stream_which_is_the_same_as_the_publish_name_of_the_stream);
 
 serverStream.addItem(item);
 
  Then red5 can't find the stream and doesn't add it to the playlist.
 
  But if i publish the live stream and record it then it works.
 
  Of course I would like to add the stream also when it's not being
  recorded.
 
  So if you know how to manage it I would be very thankful for your
  help.
  (It is very urgent :/)
 
  Best Regards
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Re: [Red5] what about a financial donation

[Steven Gong]

.
 
  Regards,
 
  Lenny
 
  On 4/26/07, Ruben Waitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   What about a financial donation from the list to push Red5 even
 harder?
  
   Let's say if 500 ppl volunteer to donate $50,-That's $ 25000,-
   Maybe with that money download servers and spare time of the
 developers
   can be financed.
  
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Re: [Red5] Change of Ports to pass corporate firewalls?

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You can also use RTMPT instead of RTMP and set the port of RTMPT to 80. This
can penetrate almost all corporate firewalls.

On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

when I installed Red5, I accepted the port settings. but now I realized
that most corporate firewalls don't allow the video stream. Where can I
change the Port settings?

Regards

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Re: [Red5] New video sharing website; A few questions about RED5's ability to match our needs

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On 4/23/07, Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


1.   Real-times ads: Insert video ads at the beginning, middle or end
of each video (without pre-enconding the FLV).

Beginning and end shouldn't be a problem, you just play a playlist instead
of a single video. The middle part could be an issue since you do not want
to preencode, i don't understand how you want to do that...but perhaps you
need to stop the video, show your add on top and then restart the
original... But anyway this is more a matter of your app logic than red5
capabilities.



For the ads clip in the middle, you can use play(someflv, 0, length) and
play(someflv, length, length_from_middle_to_end) to plug it in.

2.   Count video and advertisement impressions.


Youjust...countthem... ?

3.   Ability to change ads on-the-fly for all videos from a
centralized ads management location.

Again this looks like a matter of your own app design/implementation, not
something I'd ask a server/framework to do for me.

With red5 you've got a streaming/VOD server (and a few more things) how
you use it is up to you.

Cheers

carlos

On 4/23/07, Matan Offer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm resubmitting my question from 4 days ago; I hope it's not
 forbidden..

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Matan Offer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Apr 19, 2007 2:05 PM
 Subject: We're setting up a new video sharing website. A few questions
 about RED5's ability to match our needs
 To: Red5@osflash.org

 Hello everyone.

 I represent a group that is currently developing a new video sharing
 website. We have the following requirements for video broadcasting:

 Advertising :

 1.   Real-times ads: Insert video ads at the beginning, middle or
 end of each video (without pre-enconding the FLV).

 2.   Count video and advertisement impressions.

 3.   Ability to change ads on-the-fly for all videos from a
 centralized ads management location.


 Does RED5 provide me with these capabilities? Any additional information
 you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Red5] RES: RES: Red5 0.6r2 - Freeze

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On 4/18/07, Luiz Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, Luke how´re doing. I´m sorry didn´t see your email before.

Yes, we are testing on Internet.
Nowadays our connected uses average is 200, but i´m afraid that this
number will decrease fast because Red5 freeze every day.
We upgrade to 0.6r3, but it continues to freeze.

I was looking red5-core.xml, but i couldn´t find these buffer settings,
could you post some examples, please.



Locate the bean class:  bean class=
org.apache.mina.integration.spring.Binding and buffer configuration is
there.

Thanks in advance,


Luiz Filipe.

-Mensagem original-
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Luke Hubbard
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 13 de abril de 2007 06:09
Para: Red5@osflash.org
Assunto: Re: [Red5] RES: Red5 0.6r2 - Freeze


If you are stress testing red5 can you add the new properties in
red5-core.xml which set the buffer sizes. See the thread on buffering
issue. This makes a big difference if you are doing a test over the
internet. If your tests are on a local lan, chances are you wont
notice any difference.

- Luke

On 4/14/07, Luiz Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Joseph, how´re doing.

 We´ll try to upgrade to 0.6 r3 and then stress the tests.
 Any news i let you know.

 Thanks a lot Joseph,

 Luiz Filipe.



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 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de
 joseph wamicha
 Enviada em: quinta-feira, 12 de abril de 2007 23:42
 Para: Red5@osflash.org
 Assunto: Re: [Red5] Red5 0.6r2 - Freeze


 Hi,

 I eventually experienced the freezes you were telling me about in a chat
 application we have developed. The latest release seems to be very
stable so
 far for shared objects. According to this
 http://jira.red5.org/browse/APPSERVER-41 they have now
 solved this error.


 On 4/13/07, Luiz Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Hey guys, how´re doing.
 
  We have a Flash CardGame project based on Red5 in production and we´re
 using
  0.6r2 release.
  But every day we need to restart the server because Red5 just freeze
for
 any
  reason and without throws any exception.
 
  We are currently with 100 connected users simultaneous, without using
 video
  streaming, only audio streaming in some child scopes.
 
  I don´t know what is going on, i´m very desperate to solve this
problem...
 
  Red5 0.6r3 already solved this problem, anyone knows ?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [Red5] Stream Close

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Nomlad,
If you want to restrict the duration of a specific stream for recording, you
could implement the streamRecordStart() method from
IStreamAwareScopeHandler. To achieve this, you just need to implements
IStreamAwareScopeHandler in your Application class. The streamRecordStart()
method will be called when the recording takes place (the first packet got
from client). You might put the IBroadcastStream in a queue and call the
IBroadcastStream.close() on timeout. Hope this helps.

On 4/17/07, nomIad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey, come on

There must be an answer to this problem ;-)

indeed... i need it!

nomIad schrieb:
 Hi,

 Im actually working on a video guest book. So its a simple application
 but it has a security issue. People can broadcast their videos without
 limitations.
 Sure, i limit it in the client, but thats not secure, because its easy
 to write according clients (guestbooks have only minimal
authentication).
 So i cant restrict the size of the recorded video, so i have to restrict
 the duration that can be maximal recorded.
 The best way of doing this is serverside. So i onBroadcastStart i create
 a new ScheduleOnceJob called StreamKillerJob.
 The only arguments i have available at this time is the StreamService or
 the BroadcastStream itself.
 If i only use the stream itself, it wouldn't be unregistered (according
 the sourcecode in StreamService).
 But to unregister it with in the StreamService i need the Stream id.

 How can i access this Id in the onBroadcastStart?

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Re: [Red5] Red5 0.6r3 its better, but Freeze again - 200 connected users

[Steven Gong]

Luiz,
Thanks for reporting. What functions does your application use?

On 4/17/07, Luiz Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello guys.

Last week we updated our server to Red5 0.6r3, and now we can hold an
average of 200 connected users for 40 hours, almost 2 days.
But after 40 hours, Red5 stills disconnects.
We think that 0.6r3 is much better than 0.6r2 (becase with r2 we got only
6
hours up without freeze),
but it still disconnects.

Any Idea ?

Thanks for any help,


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Re: [Red5] Summary of User Requirement Collection

[Steven Gong]

I've added a new page to wiki to record the result of survey and track new
user requirements.
http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/docs/User+Requirement+Survey
If you've got new requirements, feel free to comment on that page or edit
that page. :-)

On 4/10/07, Alexander Zhukov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On 4/9/07, Manos Batsis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alexander Zhukov wrote:
  BTW, this way configuration can be written in any JVM compatible
  scripting language as well: groovy, jython, javascript, beanshell etc.

 I'd suggest commons-configuration for property or XML based conf files.
 Pretty flexible and easy to use.


To transform xml/properties into beans no more otherwise it would be
wrapped-xml-as-an-object scenario which should be avoided.
To better understand the IoC style configuration and the difference from
well known config which came from C world and I think is getting obsolete I
invite everybody who has not already done so to read an article by Martin
Fowler http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/injection.html
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Re: [Red5] How exact Ping function is?

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Take a look at this: http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/docs/Ping

On 4/12/07, Alexey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm trying to metter bandwidth and latency between Red5 and flash client
and i get strange results using conn.ping(). How accurate are ping() and
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Re: [Red5] Streaming from latest Trunk - 1860

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Nathan,
Is it a regression issue?

On 4/13/07, Nathan P. Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Dan,

I think the specific problem with that particular clip of National
Treasure has more to do with the way in which it was encoded, rather than
any latency issues with streaming it back.  Perhaps Lenny can tell us what
the bitrate, dimensions, and key frame specifications are for that clip.
It may work fine from a local connection, but once you try streaming that
much data over the Internet, you're not going to have a smooth playback.

-N

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Dan Rossi wrote:

 hi it seems the disconnections has something to do with Mina yet again.
 Check a few threads back there is def an issue i have to set the
 timeouts to 100.

 Rodrigo Ordonez Licona wrote:
  I could not view the whole segment of nationl_treasure
 
  using OflaDemo,
 
  It disconnected the 3 times we attempted
 
  We have DSL 2mbps Down
 
  WinXP
 
  HTH
 
  Rodrigo O
 
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
  Behalf Of *Lenny Sorey
  *Sent:* Jueves, 12 de Abril de 2007 03:23 p.m.
  *To:* Red 5 mail List
  *Subject:* [Red5] Streaming from latest Trunk - 1860
 
  Hello All,
 
  I would like for some of the RED5 user to test the FLVplayer's I
  currently have running
  on a test server.
 
  I have 5 items on the FLVPlayers including one that I recorded.
 
  Streaming of these movies vary from the ones that come with RED5 to a
  couple I added.
  One is 162 MB (about 25 to 27 minutes) and the other is 108 MB (which
  seems like it go on for days).: )
 
  You may notice that some of the movies don't center perfectly in the
  FLVPlayer. I really just
  caught this today and will fix later.
 
  Would be interested in any feedback regarding anyone viewing these
items.
 
  http://www.fatdot.com:8080/red5/
 
  Platform:
 
  Windows 2000 Professional
  Tomcat 5.5
  Java 1.6
 
  Creative Ultra Webcam.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Lenny
 

 
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