RE: charitable choice hypothetical

2004-12-29 Thread Marc Stern
Steve
Could you resend your Orden Brief?
How is life in Oregon?
Marc

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Putting aside any state nondiscrimination statutes or collective 
bargaining issues which would control the situation, the permissive 
accommodation and nonestablishment issues need to be addressed
separately.

If one follows Texas Monthly, Thorton and even Amos, it seems that the 
permissive accommodation would fail because: (1) the need to hire 
coreligionist bus drivers does not appear to be based on a free exercise

  burden or come close to the concern in Amos about a chilling impact on

the autonomy  decisionmaking of the religious entity; and (2) that such

preference burdens other persons (non-religious bus drivers in need of a

job).

However, I would acknowledge that the absence of a ground for 
accommodating does not necessarily equate with an impermissible 
advancement of religion.  But I think Alan's characterization of the 
issue (placing labor under the control of a religious entity) is too 
broad.  While charitable choice does such, it is with the facial 
assertion that those employees are not engaging in religious activity or

engaged in religious functions but are providing surrogate public 
services.  While the same may be true for the bus driver (is there a 
Christian way to drive?), in both situations the ability to discriminate

enables the religious organizations' overall mission by ensuring a 
community of like believers at the government's expense.  At least under

  Title VII the government is not funding the private discrimination.

Steve

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A.E. Brownstein wrote:

 In reading arguments defending charitable choice provisions that
permit 
 religious non-governmental providers to discriminate on the basis of 
 religion in hiring employees to staff government funded programs
serving 
 public purposes -- even if the program is entirely supported by 
 government funds and is subject to various government regulations and 
 conditions, I began to think about the reach of these arguments.
 
 Proponents of discriminatory hiring argue:
 
 1. This is an accommodation of the religious liberty interest of 
 religious individuals to work together with co-religionists.
 
 2. The accommodation serves the legitimate secular purpose of
permitting 
 co-religionists to work together.
 
 3. The accommodation does not impermissibly advance religion. The
reason 
 religion is not impermissibly advanced is, in part, because
 
 a. The discrimination is not invidious and the persons denied job 
 opportunities are not stigmatized by their exclusion from these job 
 opportunities.
 
 b. The religious liberty of persons denied employment because of 
 their religious beliefs is not burdened by being denied tax payer 
 funded, public purpose employment opportunities.
 
 Obviously, I strongly disagree with most of these arguments. But my 
 question is this. Suppose a state provides free school bus service to 
 students attending both private and public schools. May the state
allow 
 religious private schools to select the bus driver transporting their 
 students to the school and insist that the driver must be of the same 
 faith as the school's teachers and administrators -- and may the state

 grant such requests as an accommodation? (Or alternatively, when
public 
 school teachers are assigned to provide remedial services to students
at 
 a religious school, may religious schools be granted the accommodation

 of choosing teachers of a particular faith to be assigned to those
duties.)
 
 Wouldn't all of the above arguments apply to these situation? The 
 religious discrimination would be an accommodation of religious 
 individuals desire to work with co-religionists. (And., of course, the

 state can take religion into account in accommodating religion.) The 
 accommodation would serve a secular purpose and not impermissibly 
 advance religion for all of the reasons argued above.
 
 If there is an Establishment Clause problem with these hypothetical 
 accommodations, what is it? It can't be that public resources (here 
 labor instead of capital) are placed under the control of religious 
 institutions which practice religious discrimination in using those 
 resources -- because that is what charitable choice does.
 
 Alan Brownstein
 UC Davis
 
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