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Today's NY Times Review section has an article by a professor of evolutionary biology at a public university describing a lecture he gives annually explaining how that body of science has undermined central claims of religious traditions. Is it constitutional for him to give this lecture? Would it be constitutional for a professor of theology at the same university to offer a rebuttal in religious terms? Marc Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Rick Garnett Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:43 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Reply To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: GW National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition Dear Chip, Thanks for this. I'm hoping that Notre Dame will send a team again. All the best, Rick Richard W. Garnett Professor of Law and Concurrent Professor of Political Science Director, Program on Church, State Society Notre Dame Law School P.O. Box 780 Notre Dame, Indiana 46556-0780 574-631-6981 (w) 574-276-2252 (cell) rgarn...@nd.edumailto:rgarn...@nd.edu To download my scholarly papers, please visit my SSRN pagehttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=342235 Blogs: Prawfsblawghttp://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/ Mirror of Justicehttp://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/ Twitter: @RickGarnetthttps://twitter.com/RickGarnett On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ira Lupu icl...@law.gwu.edumailto:icl...@law.gwu.edu wrote: George Washington University will once again host the National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition, presented by the J. Reuben Clark Law Society. The registration period is open from now until Nov. 15, 2014. The problem will be released on Nov. 17, 2014. The competition will be held at GW on Friday-Saturday, Feb. 6-7, 2015. The 2015 problem involves claims of conscience raised by teachers against a hypothetical law in Washington, D.C. that requires teachers and administrators to carry firearms on public school property during school hours. More information here: http://www.religionmootcourt.org/ (Ignore the Feb, 2014 dates at the top of the website). -- Ira C. Lupu F. Elwood Eleanor Davis Professor of Law, Emeritus George Washington University Law School 2000 H St., NW Washington, DC 20052 (202)994-7053tel:%28202%29994-7053 Co-author (with Professor Robert Tuttle) of Secular Government, Religious People ( Wm. B. Eerdmans Pub. Co., 2014)) My SSRN papers are here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=181272#reg ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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Obviously yes, and yes. How could it be otherwise. If it is no or no and no, then we have lost all ability to have free intellectual inquiry. It would not be proper (I am not sure if it would be constitutional) for either to proselytize and it would certainly be improper to grad on religious belief. Indeed, its strikes me that this would be a great setting for a team taught interdisciplinary course. The only question is whether they teach theology at the university. Some state universities don't even teach religion (or at least they used to now teach it. Paul Finkelman Scholar-in-Residence National Constitution Center From: Marc Stern ste...@ajc.org To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:24 PM Subject: Today's NY Times Review section has an article by a professor of evolutionary biology at a public university describing a lecture he gives annually explaining how that body of science has undermined central claims of religious traditions. Is it constitutional for him to give this lecture? Would it be constitutional for a professor of theology at the same university to offer a rebuttal in religious terms? Marc Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Rick Garnett Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:43 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Reply To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: GW National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition Dear Chip, Thanks for this. I'm hoping that Notre Dame will send a team again. All the best, Rick Richard W. Garnett Professor of Law and Concurrent Professor of Political Science Director, Program on Church, State Society Notre Dame Law School P.O. Box 780 Notre Dame, Indiana 46556-0780 574-631-6981 (w) 574-276-2252 (cell) rgarn...@nd.edu To download my scholarly papers, please visit my SSRN page Blogs: Prawfsblawg Mirror of Justice Twitter: @RickGarnett On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ira Lupu icl...@law.gwu.edu wrote: George Washington University will once again host the National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition, presented by the J. Reuben Clark Law Society. The registration period is open from now until Nov. 15, 2014. The problem will be released on Nov. 17, 2014. The competition will be held at GW on Friday-Saturday, Feb. 6-7, 2015. The 2015 problem involves claims of conscience raised by teachers against a hypothetical law in Washington, D.C. that requires teachers and administrators to carry firearms on public school property during school hours. More information here: http://www.religionmootcourt.org/ (Ignore the Feb, 2014 dates at the top of the website). -- Ira C. Lupu F. Elwood Eleanor Davis Professor of Law, Emeritus George Washington University Law School 2000 H St., NW Washington, DC 20052 (202)994-7053 Co-author (with Professor Robert Tuttle) of Secular Government, Religious People ( Wm. B. Eerdmans Pub. Co., 2014)) My SSRN papers are here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=181272#reg ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: science professor lecture
How would it not be constitutional? What possible theory? On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Marc Stern ste...@ajc.org wrote: Today's NY Times Review section has an article by a professor of evolutionary biology at a public university describing a lecture he gives annually explaining how that body of science has undermined central claims of religious traditions. Is it constitutional for him to give this lecture? Would it be constitutional for a professor of theology at the same university to offer a rebuttal in religious terms? Marc Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Rick Garnett Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:43 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Reply To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: GW National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition Dear Chip, Thanks for this. I'm hoping that Notre Dame will send a team again. All the best, Rick Richard W. Garnett Professor of Law and Concurrent Professor of Political Science Director, Program on Church, State Society Notre Dame Law School P.O. Box 780 Notre Dame, Indiana 46556-0780 574-631-6981 (w) 574-276-2252 (cell) rgarn...@nd.edu To download my scholarly papers, please visit my SSRN page Blogs: Prawfsblawg Mirror of Justice Twitter: @RickGarnett On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ira Lupu icl...@law.gwu.edu wrote: George Washington University will once again host the National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition, presented by the J. Reuben Clark Law Society. The registration period is open from now until Nov. 15, 2014. The problem will be released on Nov. 17, 2014. The competition will be held at GW on Friday-Saturday, Feb. 6-7, 2015. The 2015 problem involves claims of conscience raised by teachers against a hypothetical law in Washington, D.C. that requires teachers and administrators to carry firearms on public school property during school hours. More information here: http://www.religionmootcourt.org/ (Ignore the Feb, 2014 dates at the top of the website). -- Ira C. Lupu F. Elwood Eleanor Davis Professor of Law, Emeritus George Washington University Law School 2000 H St., NW Washington, DC 20052 (202)994-7053 Co-author (with Professor Robert Tuttle) of Secular Government, Religious People ( Wm. B. Eerdmans Pub. Co., 2014)) My SSRN papers are here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=181272#reg ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar vox: 202-806-8017 Director of International Programs, Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice http://iipsj.org Howard University School of Law fax: 202-806-8567 http://sdjlaw.org “There are no wrong notes in jazz: only notes in the wrong places.” Miles Davis ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Science Lecture
[I posted this earlier but it does not look llike it was put up so I am resending it.] Obviously yes, and yes. How could it be otherwise? If it is no or no and no, then we have lost all ability to have free intellectual inquiry. It would not be proper (I am not sure if it would be constitutional) for either to proselytize and it would certainly be improper to grade on religious belief. Indeed, its strikes me that this would be a great setting for a team taught interdisciplinary course. The only question is whether they teach theology at the university. Some state universities don't even teach religion (or at least they used to now teach it. Paul Finkelman Scholar-in-Residence National Constitution Center and Senior Fellow Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism University of Pennsylvania * From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] on behalf of Marc Stern [ste...@ajc.org] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:24 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; Law Religion issues for Law Academics; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Today's NY Times Review section has an article by a professor of evolutionary biology at a public university describing a lecture he gives annually explaining how that body of science has undermined central claims of religious traditions. Is it constitutional for him to give this lecture? Would it be constitutional for a professor of theology at the same university to offer a rebuttal in religious terms? Marc Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Rick Garnett Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:43 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Reply To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: GW National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition Dear Chip, Thanks for this. I'm hoping that Notre Dame will send a team again. All the best, Rick Richard W. Garnett Professor of Law and Concurrent Professor of Political Science Director, Program on Church, State Society Notre Dame Law School P.O. Box 780 Notre Dame, Indiana 46556-0780 574-631-6981 (w) 574-276-2252 (cell) rgarn...@nd.edumailto:rgarn...@nd.edu To download my scholarly papers, please visit my SSRN pagehttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=342235 Blogs: Prawfsblawghttp://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/ Mirror of Justicehttp://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/ Twitter: @RickGarnetthttps://twitter.com/RickGarnett On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ira Lupu icl...@law.gwu.edumailto:icl...@law.gwu.edu wrote: George Washington University will once again host the National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition, presented by the J. Reuben Clark Law Society. The registration period is open from now until Nov. 15, 2014. The problem will be released on Nov. 17, 2014. The competition will be held at GW on Friday-Saturday, Feb. 6-7, 2015. The 2015 problem involves claims of conscience raised by teachers against a hypothetical law in Washington, D.C. that requires teachers and administrators to carry firearms on public school property during school hours. More information here: http://www.religionmootcourt.org/ (Ignore the Feb, 2014 dates at the top of the website). -- Ira C. Lupu F. Elwood Eleanor Davis Professor of Law, Emeritus George Washington University Law School 2000 H St., NW Washington, DC 20052 (202)994-7053tel:%28202%29994-7053 Co-author (with Professor Robert Tuttle) of Secular Government, Religious People ( Wm. B. Eerdmans Pub. Co., 2014)) My SSRN papers are here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=181272#reg ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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Sorry for the double posting. Apparently the list-serve copy of my posting went to spam. What does that tell us about spam filters when they reject your own postings! Paul Finkelman Scholar-in-Residence National Constitution Center From: Marc Stern ste...@ajc.org To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:24 PM Subject: Today's NY Times Review section has an article by a professor of evolutionary biology at a public university describing a lecture he gives annually explaining how that body of science has undermined central claims of religious traditions. Is it constitutional for him to give this lecture? Would it be constitutional for a professor of theology at the same university to offer a rebuttal in religious terms? Marc Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Rick Garnett Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:43 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Reply To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: GW National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition Dear Chip, Thanks for this. I'm hoping that Notre Dame will send a team again. All the best, Rick Richard W. Garnett Professor of Law and Concurrent Professor of Political Science Director, Program on Church, State Society Notre Dame Law School P.O. Box 780 Notre Dame, Indiana 46556-0780 574-631-6981 (w) 574-276-2252 (cell) rgarn...@nd.edumailto:rgarn...@nd.edu To download my scholarly papers, please visit my SSRN pagehttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=342235 Blogs: Prawfsblawghttp://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/ Mirror of Justicehttp://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/ Twitter: @RickGarnetthttps://twitter.com/RickGarnett On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Ira Lupu icl...@law.gwu.edumailto:icl...@law.gwu.edu wrote: George Washington University will once again host the National Religious Freedom Moot Court Competition, presented by the J. Reuben Clark Law Society. The registration period is open from now until Nov. 15, 2014. The problem will be released on Nov. 17, 2014. The competition will be held at GW on Friday-Saturday, Feb. 6-7, 2015. The 2015 problem involves claims of conscience raised by teachers against a hypothetical law in Washington, D.C. that requires teachers and administrators to carry firearms on public school property during school hours. More information here: http://www.religionmootcourt.org/ (Ignore the Feb, 2014 dates at the top of the website). -- Ira C. Lupu F. Elwood Eleanor Davis Professor of Law, Emeritus George Washington University Law School 2000 H St., NW Washington, DC 20052 (202)994-7053UrlBlockedError.aspx Co-author (with Professor Robert Tuttle) of Secular Government, Religious People ( Wm. B. Eerdmans Pub. Co., 2014)) My SSRN papers are here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=181272#reg ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
