The Eleventh Circuit says nothing on that score, though the question is
obvious. I think the reason it did not-aside from the obvious possibility
that appellants may not have raised it-is that the court is so hell bent on
limiting retaliation claims that if a claim is not meritorious on its face
-as accommodation claims are often not-there is no retaliation claim. 
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-----Original Message-----
From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 02:04
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Michael Masinter
Subject: Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to takedown
religioussymbols

Thanks Michael.  I obviously have not read the opinion.

But if the employee has a claim for the employer's refusal to accomodate
her, why doesn't she have a retaliation claim for opposing its refusal to
accommodate her?

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:34:16 -0500
 Michael Masinter <masin...@nova.edu> wrote:
>The Eleventh Circuit's recent religious discrimination, religious
accommodation, and retaliation decision, Dixon v. The Hallmark  Services,
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/201010047.pdf does  not foreclose
a reasonable accommodation claim or a disparate  treatment claim by an
employee forced to remove religious objects from  her workspace; to the
contrary, it held that the statement allegedly  made in conjunction with her
discharge that she was too religious was  direct evidence of discriminatory
intent, and that because management  was on notice of the conflict between
her religious belief that she  must display religious objects in her
workspace and its contrary  policy, it was obliged to consider a reasonable
accommodation unless  granting one would cause undue hardship.  The court
reversed summary  judgment for the employer on both grounds, reasoning that
the former  turned on the contested question of whether the statement that
the  employee was too religious
  was
>actually made, and the latter on the  case by case and as yet undeveloped
factual specifics of what is a  reasonable accommodation or an undue
hardship.
>
>Dixon did hold that neither Title VII nor the Fair Housing Act forbids  a
private employer from establishing a "no religious symbols" policy,  and
that an objection to such a policy therefore could not support an
opposition clause claim even though its application to an individual
employee with contrary religiously motivated practices could support a
reasonable accommodation claim.
>
>
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>
>
>
>Quoting Douglas Laycock <dlayc...@virginia.edu>:
>
>> It doesn't make sense to call religious truth claims offensive
(although that is common parlance), but it does make sense to say   that an
employee who doesn't believe such a claim should not have to   display the
claim or its symbols. The employee has a legitimate   interest in not
appearing to promote what he considers to be a false   belief. And this
interest should be well within the religious   accommodation protections of
Title VII.
>>
>> Except, apparently, in the Eleventh Circuit.
>>
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:47:20 -0500
>>  Eric Rassbach <erassb...@becketfund.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took Alan's example re re Confederate flags etc. to be raising   the
issue of hostile work environment discrimination claims. Of   course for
such a claim to be successful, a lone requirement that   employees display
something offensive would not be enough; you'd   have to show some other
pattern of discrimination on the basis of   the protected class at issue.
(Wrt the Confederate flag example, it   is certainly the case that a lot of
businesses in the South  display  Confederate battle flags and require their
employees to do  so;  though it is probably bars more than banks.)
>>>
>>> I think a religious discrimination hostile work environment claim
would be really hard to make out based on the display of one   religion's
symbol. Competing truth claims are a feature, not a bug,   of religious
life, so it doesn't make sense to call one group's   truth claims or the
symbols representing those truth claims   "offensive" or discriminatory per
se.
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
[religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
[vol...@law.ucla.edu]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:33 AM
>>> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
>>> Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down
religioussymbols
>>>
>>>               Alan:  Can you flesh out the discrimination theory  more?
I take it that the claim is that requiring everyone to  display something
would constitute discrimination (not just failure  to accommodate religious
beliefs, or creation of an allegedly  hostile environment), and that this
would trigger a requirement of  exemption even outside the context of
religious discrimination,  where such exemption is statutorily required - is
that right?  It  seems like an odd sort of discrimination claim, but I'd
like to  hear more about it.  (I take it that this would practically be of
some more importance because some companies include in their  corporate
symbols items that some people may find offensive based  on membership in
various groups, whether the symbols are religious,  allegedly racially
offensive, and so on - consider the litigation  over Sambo's Restaurants, or
the use of American Indian symbols, or  other things that might well be a
part of company logos, di
 splayed
> on compa
>>  ny
>>> vehicles, and so on.)
>>>
>>>               By the way, some jurisdictions ban discrimination   based
on political affiliation, and of course government entities   are generally
barred by the First Amendment from certain kinds of   discrimination based
on political affiliation.  Would requiring all   employees to display
company symbols that are opposed by one or   another political party
constitute forbidden political affiliation   discrimination?
>>>
>>>               Eugene
>>>
>>> From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of   Brownstein, Alan
>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 4:36 PM
>>> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
>>> Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down
religioussymbols
>>>
>>> Do you think there is a discrimination issue as well as an
accommodation issue in cases like this, Eugene. Suppose a bank in a
southern state insists that all employees have confederate flags on  their
desks or work stations? Does an African-American employee  have a claim
under Title VII? What about displays that proclaim the  superiority or
virtue of the "white" race?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
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