Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-13 Thread Ed Brayton

Larry Darby wrote:


Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in restoring good
government to Alabama - and the United States of America, for Americans
for a change!



I am reminded of an old Albert Brooks comedy bit from the early 70s 
where he says that radio disc jockeys are endowed with the ability to 
turn anything negative into a compliment, totally oblivious to the 
reality that people are in fact insulting them:


You suck
Thank you, you're beautiful!
I said you suck
I said thanks!

Ed Brayton
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Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Finkelman
I wonder if Mr. Darby's anti-Semitic self-promotion really belongs on 
this list serve?


Larry Darby wrote:


Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in restoring good
government to Alabama - and the United States of America, for Americans
for a change!

Those persons who want to stay abreast of current events dealing with
our Zionist-Occupied Government and other current events regarding the
global endeavors of traditional enemies of Free Speech, I am proprietor
of the Atheist Daily News, the publication of record for the community
of reason.

A year's subscription is only $52.00 and may be mailed to Atheist Daily
News, P O Box 3722, Montgomery, AL  36109.

I am no longer an officer of the Atheist Law Center, Inc. but it, too,
has a daily publication, the Atheist Daily Briefing.  Those wishing to
subscribe to it may do so by going to this link:
http://www.atheistlaw.org/news-subscribe.cfm. It is edited by John
Nielsen of Jackson, Mississippi.

There is little overlap of stories covered. Some people get both
publications.

You may also make a tax deductible contribution to the Center by
clicking on the Donate icon at the top of the web page.

Thank you all for your interest and continued support for the
constitutional principle of separation between religion and government
(not the misguided separation of church and state response to
politically correct preferentialism or government accommodation of
non-Christian religion).

Larry Darby



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Darby
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:23 PM
To: 'Law  Religion issues for Law Academics'
Subject: RE: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its
founder

Eugene, thanks for the publicity!  My campaign address is:

Larry Darby for Attorney General
P O Box 3722
Montgomery, AL  36109

There is no limit on contributions from individuals.

Larry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Law  Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

Since people on this list specialize in the law of government
and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist
Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on
some matters.  (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.)

Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the
Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General
candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on
this list.  Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in
order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views
I describe below.  On the other hand, his having been involved in the
group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was
president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly.

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423
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Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney
General

Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the
Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal
activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he
has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in
the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist
groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter
of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American
Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but
also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in
connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to
the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic
primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little
chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a
platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law
reform and decriminalization of marijuana.

Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with
the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live
under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who
contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially
involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving.

I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an
exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote.
I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the quote. (I had and still have no
reason to question my correspondent's veracity, but I thought that
checking would be a good idea.) The closest Mr. Darby came to denying
the accuracy of the 

Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-13 Thread Francis Beckwith
I second Paul's concern.

Frank

On 12/13/05 7:37 AM, Paul Finkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if Mr. Darby's anti-Semitic self-promotion really belongs on
 this list serve?
 
 Larry Darby wrote:
 
 Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in restoring good
 government to Alabama - and the United States of America, for Americans
 for a change!
 
 Those persons who want to stay abreast of current events dealing with
 our Zionist-Occupied Government and other current events regarding the
 global endeavors of traditional enemies of Free Speech, I am proprietor
 of the Atheist Daily News, the publication of record for the community
 of reason.
 
 A year's subscription is only $52.00 and may be mailed to Atheist Daily
 News, P O Box 3722, Montgomery, AL  36109.
 
 I am no longer an officer of the Atheist Law Center, Inc. but it, too,
 has a daily publication, the Atheist Daily Briefing.  Those wishing to
 subscribe to it may do so by going to this link:
 http://www.atheistlaw.org/news-subscribe.cfm. It is edited by John
 Nielsen of Jackson, Mississippi.
 
 There is little overlap of stories covered. Some people get both
 publications.
 
 You may also make a tax deductible contribution to the Center by
 clicking on the Donate icon at the top of the web page.
 
 Thank you all for your interest and continued support for the
 constitutional principle of separation between religion and government
 (not the misguided separation of church and state response to
 politically correct preferentialism or government accommodation of
 non-Christian religion).
 
 Larry Darby
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Darby
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:23 PM
 To: 'Law  Religion issues for Law Academics'
 Subject: RE: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its
 founder
 
 Eugene, thanks for the publicity!  My campaign address is:
 
 Larry Darby for Attorney General
 P O Box 3722
 Montgomery, AL  36109
 
 There is no limit on contributions from individuals.
 
 Larry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM
 To: Law  Religion issues for Law Academics
 Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
 
 Since people on this list specialize in the law of government
 and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist
 Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on
 some matters.  (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.)
 
 Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the
 Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General
 candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on
 this list.  Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in
 order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views
 I describe below.  On the other hand, his having been involved in the
 group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was
 president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly.
 
 http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423
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 Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney
 General
 
 Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the
 Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal
 activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he
 has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in
 the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist
 groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter
 of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American
 Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but
 also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in
 connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to
 the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic
 primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little
 chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a
 platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law
 reform and decriminalization of marijuana.
 
 Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with
 the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live
 under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who
 contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially
 involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving.
 
 I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an
 exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote.
 I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the 

Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-13 Thread RJLipkin



Paul's query again 
raisesthe question of the List's purposes. My own view is that 
phrases like "Zionist-Occupied Government" and, in Paul's words,the 
speaker's "anti-Semitic self-promotion" do not belong on this List. I 
recognizeand admire Eugene's typical reluctance to censoremails 
posted to the List, but I do not see how such expressions have anything to do 
with a scholarly exploration of religion and government.

That said, perhaps 
censoring the speech gives the speaker a credibility he 
certainlylacks.

BobbyRobert Justin LipkinProfessor of LawWidener 
University School of LawDelaware
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RE: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-12 Thread Larry Darby
Eugene, thanks for the publicity!  My campaign address is:

Larry Darby for Attorney General
P O Box 3722
Montgomery, AL  36109

There is no limit on contributions from individuals.

Larry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Law  Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

Since people on this list specialize in the law of government
and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist
Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on
some matters.  (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.)

Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the
Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General
candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on
this list.  Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in
order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views
I describe below.  On the other hand, his having been involved in the
group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was
president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly.

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423
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Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney
General

Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the
Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal
activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he
has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in
the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist
groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter
of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American
Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but
also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in
connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to
the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic
primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little
chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a
platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law
reform and decriminalization of marijuana.

Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with
the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live
under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who
contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially
involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving.

I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an
exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote.
I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the quote. (I had and still have no
reason to question my correspondent's veracity, but I thought that
checking would be a good idea.) The closest Mr. Darby came to denying
the accuracy of the quote is when he eventually said - after an exchange
of several e-mails - Know that what you sent to me as represented by
[my correspondent] is not authentic, which seemed to me like a somewhat
coy way of addressing whether Mr. Darby indeed said the
Zionist-Occupied Government item.

I then followed up by asking My question was simply whether you did or
did not e-mail the text I asked you about. Did you or didn't you? He
didn't respond to that question, but instead insisted that I tell him
whether I was a Zionist and a Trotskyite. Mr. Darby's e-mails to me also
included the following, which further leads me to think that my
correspondent indeed accurately quoted the Zionist-Occupied Government
line:

[F]or the record, Dr. David Duke does offer insight into the
neoconservative or Trotskyist government in Washington, DC. Some of what
he has been saying for years is bearing out in the news today. Have you
ever read anything of Duke's your self? I'm sure he'd talk to you. Write
him at www.davidduke.com and find out for yourself. And read what he
really says for yourself, without relying on what Jewish Supremacists
say about him.

Have you been keeping up with all the Zionists (Jews and
Jewish-Christians) being arrested by the FBI? I know it hasn't made
mainstream media, but it is happening and expectations are that when
Kidan turns evidence against Uber-Zionist Abramoff, some other members
of Congress might be indicted. Those are only two of several people
arrested.

If you aren't keeping up with those issues, then likely you won't be
able to understand that Dr. Duke knows what he's talking about when it
comes to Jewish Supremacism and Zionism. . . .

Earlier in the exchange, Mr. Darby had also asked 

Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Finkelman
Eugene:  thanks for posting this. I ran into Darby when I testified in 
the Alabama Ten Commandments Monument case.  Not someone I would care to 
spend time with again.  We were presumably on the same side of the case 
-- against Chief Justice Moore's monument, but with allies like him I 
was wondering if I would be more comfortable hanging out with the other 
side.   After your posting, I now have a better undertanding of him.  


Paul Finkelman



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Law  Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

Since people on this list specialize in the law of government
and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist
Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on
some matters.  (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.)

Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the
Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General
candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on
this list.  Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in
order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views
I describe below.  On the other hand, his having been involved in the
group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was
president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly.

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423
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Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney
General

Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the
Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal
activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he
has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in
the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist
groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter
of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American
Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but
also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in
connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to
the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic
primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little
chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a
platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law
reform and decriminalization of marijuana.

Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with
the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live
under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who
contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially
involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving.

I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an
exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote.
I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the quote. (I had and still have no
reason to question my correspondent's veracity, but I thought that
checking would be a good idea.) The closest Mr. Darby came to denying
the accuracy of the quote is when he eventually said - after an exchange
of several e-mails - Know that what you sent to me as represented by
[my correspondent] is not authentic, which seemed to me like a somewhat
coy way of addressing whether Mr. Darby indeed said the
Zionist-Occupied Government item.

I then followed up by asking My question was simply whether you did or
did not e-mail the text I asked you about. Did you or didn't you? He
didn't respond to that question, but instead insisted that I tell him
whether I was a Zionist and a Trotskyite. Mr. Darby's e-mails to me also
included the following, which further leads me to think that my
correspondent indeed accurately quoted the Zionist-Occupied Government
line:

   [F]or the record, Dr. David Duke does offer insight into the
neoconservative or Trotskyist government in Washington, DC. Some of what
he has been saying for years is bearing out in the news today. Have you
ever read anything of Duke's your self? I'm sure he'd talk to you. Write
him at www.davidduke.com and find out for yourself. And read what he
really says for yourself, without relying on what Jewish Supremacists
say about him.

   Have you been keeping up with all the Zionists (Jews and
Jewish-Christians) being arrested by the FBI? I know it hasn't made
mainstream media, but it is happening and expectations are that when
Kidan turns evidence against Uber-Zionist Abramoff, some other members
of Congress might be indicted. Those are only two of 

Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder

2005-12-12 Thread Will Linden
  I was interested when I saw the like to  a must-see video at 
honestmedia.com in his recent post besides trading in Holocaust 
revisionism [deliberately phrased to annoy the PCCops], it includes stuff 
depicting fees for kashruth certification as a secret tax. It looks like 
the link was not just coincidence (and leads me to speculate why he parted 
ways with the Libertarians).


At 11:11 AM 12/12/05 -0800, Volokh, Eugene wrote:


[F]or the record, Dr. David Duke does offer insight into the
neoconservative or Trotskyist government in Washington, DC. Some of what


  It would surprise every Trotskyist *I* know!


humming I Want to Marry a Trotskyite

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