Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
Larry Darby wrote: Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in restoring good government to Alabama - and the United States of America, for Americans for a change! I am reminded of an old Albert Brooks comedy bit from the early 70s where he says that radio disc jockeys are endowed with the ability to turn anything negative into a compliment, totally oblivious to the reality that people are in fact insulting them: You suck Thank you, you're beautiful! I said you suck I said thanks! Ed Brayton ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
I wonder if Mr. Darby's anti-Semitic self-promotion really belongs on this list serve? Larry Darby wrote: Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in restoring good government to Alabama - and the United States of America, for Americans for a change! Those persons who want to stay abreast of current events dealing with our Zionist-Occupied Government and other current events regarding the global endeavors of traditional enemies of Free Speech, I am proprietor of the Atheist Daily News, the publication of record for the community of reason. A year's subscription is only $52.00 and may be mailed to Atheist Daily News, P O Box 3722, Montgomery, AL 36109. I am no longer an officer of the Atheist Law Center, Inc. but it, too, has a daily publication, the Atheist Daily Briefing. Those wishing to subscribe to it may do so by going to this link: http://www.atheistlaw.org/news-subscribe.cfm. It is edited by John Nielsen of Jackson, Mississippi. There is little overlap of stories covered. Some people get both publications. You may also make a tax deductible contribution to the Center by clicking on the Donate icon at the top of the web page. Thank you all for your interest and continued support for the constitutional principle of separation between religion and government (not the misguided separation of church and state response to politically correct preferentialism or government accommodation of non-Christian religion). Larry Darby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Darby Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:23 PM To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder Eugene, thanks for the publicity! My campaign address is: Larry Darby for Attorney General P O Box 3722 Montgomery, AL 36109 There is no limit on contributions from individuals. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder Since people on this list specialize in the law of government and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on some matters. (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.) Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on this list. Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views I describe below. On the other hand, his having been involved in the group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423 9 [Eugene Volokh, December 12, 2005 at 2:03pm] 0 Trackbacks / Possibly More Trackbacks Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney General Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law reform and decriminalization of marijuana. Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving. I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote. I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the quote. (I had and still have no reason to question my correspondent's veracity, but I thought that checking would be a good idea.) The closest Mr. Darby came to denying the accuracy of the
Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
I second Paul's concern. Frank On 12/13/05 7:37 AM, Paul Finkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if Mr. Darby's anti-Semitic self-promotion really belongs on this list serve? Larry Darby wrote: Thank you to all who have expressed an interest in restoring good government to Alabama - and the United States of America, for Americans for a change! Those persons who want to stay abreast of current events dealing with our Zionist-Occupied Government and other current events regarding the global endeavors of traditional enemies of Free Speech, I am proprietor of the Atheist Daily News, the publication of record for the community of reason. A year's subscription is only $52.00 and may be mailed to Atheist Daily News, P O Box 3722, Montgomery, AL 36109. I am no longer an officer of the Atheist Law Center, Inc. but it, too, has a daily publication, the Atheist Daily Briefing. Those wishing to subscribe to it may do so by going to this link: http://www.atheistlaw.org/news-subscribe.cfm. It is edited by John Nielsen of Jackson, Mississippi. There is little overlap of stories covered. Some people get both publications. You may also make a tax deductible contribution to the Center by clicking on the Donate icon at the top of the web page. Thank you all for your interest and continued support for the constitutional principle of separation between religion and government (not the misguided separation of church and state response to politically correct preferentialism or government accommodation of non-Christian religion). Larry Darby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Darby Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:23 PM To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder Eugene, thanks for the publicity! My campaign address is: Larry Darby for Attorney General P O Box 3722 Montgomery, AL 36109 There is no limit on contributions from individuals. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder Since people on this list specialize in the law of government and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on some matters. (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.) Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on this list. Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views I describe below. On the other hand, his having been involved in the group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423 9 [Eugene Volokh, December 12, 2005 at 2:03pm] 0 Trackbacks / Possibly More Trackbacks Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney General Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law reform and decriminalization of marijuana. Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving. I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote. I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the
Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
Paul's query again raisesthe question of the List's purposes. My own view is that phrases like "Zionist-Occupied Government" and, in Paul's words,the speaker's "anti-Semitic self-promotion" do not belong on this List. I recognizeand admire Eugene's typical reluctance to censoremails posted to the List, but I do not see how such expressions have anything to do with a scholarly exploration of religion and government. That said, perhaps censoring the speech gives the speaker a credibility he certainlylacks. BobbyRobert Justin LipkinProfessor of LawWidener University School of LawDelaware ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
RE: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
Eugene, thanks for the publicity! My campaign address is: Larry Darby for Attorney General P O Box 3722 Montgomery, AL 36109 There is no limit on contributions from individuals. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder Since people on this list specialize in the law of government and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on some matters. (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.) Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on this list. Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views I describe below. On the other hand, his having been involved in the group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423 9 [Eugene Volokh, December 12, 2005 at 2:03pm] 0 Trackbacks / Possibly More Trackbacks Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney General Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law reform and decriminalization of marijuana. Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving. I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote. I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the quote. (I had and still have no reason to question my correspondent's veracity, but I thought that checking would be a good idea.) The closest Mr. Darby came to denying the accuracy of the quote is when he eventually said - after an exchange of several e-mails - Know that what you sent to me as represented by [my correspondent] is not authentic, which seemed to me like a somewhat coy way of addressing whether Mr. Darby indeed said the Zionist-Occupied Government item. I then followed up by asking My question was simply whether you did or did not e-mail the text I asked you about. Did you or didn't you? He didn't respond to that question, but instead insisted that I tell him whether I was a Zionist and a Trotskyite. Mr. Darby's e-mails to me also included the following, which further leads me to think that my correspondent indeed accurately quoted the Zionist-Occupied Government line: [F]or the record, Dr. David Duke does offer insight into the neoconservative or Trotskyist government in Washington, DC. Some of what he has been saying for years is bearing out in the news today. Have you ever read anything of Duke's your self? I'm sure he'd talk to you. Write him at www.davidduke.com and find out for yourself. And read what he really says for yourself, without relying on what Jewish Supremacists say about him. Have you been keeping up with all the Zionists (Jews and Jewish-Christians) being arrested by the FBI? I know it hasn't made mainstream media, but it is happening and expectations are that when Kidan turns evidence against Uber-Zionist Abramoff, some other members of Congress might be indicted. Those are only two of several people arrested. If you aren't keeping up with those issues, then likely you won't be able to understand that Dr. Duke knows what he's talking about when it comes to Jewish Supremacism and Zionism. . . . Earlier in the exchange, Mr. Darby had also asked
Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
Eugene: thanks for posting this. I ran into Darby when I testified in the Alabama Ten Commandments Monument case. Not someone I would care to spend time with again. We were presumably on the same side of the case -- against Chief Justice Moore's monument, but with allies like him I was wondering if I would be more comfortable hanging out with the other side. After your posting, I now have a better undertanding of him. Paul Finkelman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:11 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder Since people on this list specialize in the law of government and religion, they might be interested in the activities of the Atheist Legal Center, and might even be inclined to work together with them on some matters. (I would have been one such, on certain subjects.) Given this, I thought I'd pass along an item I posted about the Atheist Legal Center's former president and Alabama Attorney General candidate Larry Darby -- who, by coincidence, has also participated on this list. Mr. Darby has stepped down as the head of the Center in order to run for AG, so perhaps his replacement does not share the views I describe below. On the other hand, his having been involved in the group, and the Center's having hosted David Irving while Mr. Darby was president, makes me concerned about the group more broadly. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_12_11-2005_12_17.shtml#113441423 9 [Eugene Volokh, December 12, 2005 at 2:03pm] 0 Trackbacks / Possibly More Trackbacks Leading Atheist Legal Activist and Candidate for Alabama Attorney General Has Some Rather Interesting Views About Jews, Zionism, and the Holocaust: Larry Darby is apparently a pretty prominent atheist legal activist. He was the president of the Atheist Legal Center (though he has since stepped down to run for public office); filed amicus briefs in the Supreme Court's Ten Commandments cases on behalf of various atheist groups and also on behalf of Scouting for All; ran the Alabama chapter of American Atheists; got the Atheist of the Year award from American Atheists; has been quoted in various newspapers, mostly in Alabama but also elsewhere; and has appeared on various television programs in connection with his opposition to Judge Roy Moore's actions related to the Ten Commandments. Darby is now running in the June 2006 Democratic primary for Alabama Attorney General - I suspect that he has little chance of winning, but I take it that he'll want to use the race as a platform for expressing his various views, which include juvenile law reform and decriminalization of marijuana. Mr. Darby also (1) apparently wrote that David Duke is right on with the problem of Zionism and the Zionist-Occupied Government we live under, (2) seems quite interested in whether media representatives who contact him about such matters are Jewish, and (3) was substantially involved in organizing a speech by noted Holocaust denier David Irving. I first heard about this when an acquaintance of mine e-mailed me an exchange that included Mr. Darby's Zionist-Occupied Government quote. I then e-mailed Mr. Darby to verify the quote. (I had and still have no reason to question my correspondent's veracity, but I thought that checking would be a good idea.) The closest Mr. Darby came to denying the accuracy of the quote is when he eventually said - after an exchange of several e-mails - Know that what you sent to me as represented by [my correspondent] is not authentic, which seemed to me like a somewhat coy way of addressing whether Mr. Darby indeed said the Zionist-Occupied Government item. I then followed up by asking My question was simply whether you did or did not e-mail the text I asked you about. Did you or didn't you? He didn't respond to that question, but instead insisted that I tell him whether I was a Zionist and a Trotskyite. Mr. Darby's e-mails to me also included the following, which further leads me to think that my correspondent indeed accurately quoted the Zionist-Occupied Government line: [F]or the record, Dr. David Duke does offer insight into the neoconservative or Trotskyist government in Washington, DC. Some of what he has been saying for years is bearing out in the news today. Have you ever read anything of Duke's your self? I'm sure he'd talk to you. Write him at www.davidduke.com and find out for yourself. And read what he really says for yourself, without relying on what Jewish Supremacists say about him. Have you been keeping up with all the Zionists (Jews and Jewish-Christians) being arrested by the FBI? I know it hasn't made mainstream media, but it is happening and expectations are that when Kidan turns evidence against Uber-Zionist Abramoff, some other members of Congress might be indicted. Those are only two of
Re: A note about the Atheist Legal Center, or at least its founder
I was interested when I saw the like to a must-see video at honestmedia.com in his recent post besides trading in Holocaust revisionism [deliberately phrased to annoy the PCCops], it includes stuff depicting fees for kashruth certification as a secret tax. It looks like the link was not just coincidence (and leads me to speculate why he parted ways with the Libertarians). At 11:11 AM 12/12/05 -0800, Volokh, Eugene wrote: [F]or the record, Dr. David Duke does offer insight into the neoconservative or Trotskyist government in Washington, DC. Some of what It would surprise every Trotskyist *I* know! humming I Want to Marry a Trotskyite ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.