[Repeater-Builder] Re: [radio-prog@yhgrps] Delayed response to repeater
Brian, I am very familiar with this problem. There are several possible contributing factors: 1. The users speak too soon after keying the mike. 2. The repeater may be slow in responding to incoming PL. 3. The PL frequency may be well below 100 Hz. 4. The PL deviation may be too low (not likely). 5. The radios may not be on-frequency. Let's look at these issues one at a time. 1. In my experience, which covers Ham, commercial, and public safety, the untrained users invariably start speaking at the same instant they press the PTT button. This annoying habit seldom responds to pleading or threats. It sometimes helps if other users are not afraid to rebuke the offenders by responding with a direct instruction: I'm sorry, but the first part of your transmission didn't make it. Please do not start talking until a half-second or so after you press the PTT button. Try again. The most effective solution was my imposition of MDC1200 coding on all portable and mobile units in the fleet. I set the units for beginning of PTT and a short sidetone beep. Once it became obvious to all users that nothing said before the beep was heard, all users wait for the pre-beep before speaking. It took only two weeks or so to educate the users! 2. You didn't specify the make and model of your repeater, but some models are simply sluggish in responding to incoming PL, and may also be sluggish in generating the outgoing PL. Some repeaters that use reeds are incredibly slow, but MICOR Vibrasponder and Vibrasender reeds are fairly quick acting. Tone decoders and encoders that use PLL technology can often be optimized by setting the idle frequency carefully so that the lock-up time in minimized. 3. The CTCSS (PL) frequency has a great influence on decode time. The TIA-603B standard specifies that the CTCSS decode time shall not exceed 250ms for tones above 100 Hz. Below 100 Hz, the decode times become much slower; at 67.0 Hz, the maximum decode time is 373ms. A third of a second is an eternity to some people. So, using higher frequency PL tones will usually speed up the process. 4. The standard CTCSS deviation specified in TIA-603B is 500 Hz. Most commercial radios have this parameter set in the 650-800 Hz range, and this is fine. The majority of repeaters and portable or mobile radios I work with are responsive to PL deviation as low as 100 Hz. Shoot for PL deviation in the 500-700 Hz range and you'll be okay. 5. If the repeater receiver is not exactly on the same frequency as the user transmitter, the symmetry of the demodulated signal is impaired, and this may affect the operation of the CTCSS decoder. Since the HT1000, HT1250, and CDM1250 radios are very good performers, I'd check to see that the repeater was set correctly on frequency. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a mixture of HT1000's, HT1250's and CDM1250's in service. My problem is a delayed opening of the squelch on all of the radios, making us miss the first part of the message. We are using a UHF repeater with PL. The Minitor pagers and scanner hear everything fine, so I'm thinking it has to do with the PL. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, - Brian - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community email addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.yahoogroups.com/community/radio-programming Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static?
Well...sorta. The feed line in question is referred to as 'air dielectric', as such instead of a foam or polyethylene dielectric to keep the center conductor centered where it is and provide insulation between the center conductor and ground, there is a spiral piece of dielectric material to hold the center conductor in place. Everything else between the center conductor and the shield is the 'air' part. It doesn't need to be nitrogen, there is nothing particularly mystical about nitrogen, often compressed dehumidified air is used instead, since regular 'air' is made up of about 78% nitrogen. Will the system function without nitrogen? Absolutely. The purpose of the air or nitrogen is to keep moisture from infiltrating the system. I have never seen the VSWR change at all by simply removing the nitrogen from the system. I've often opened the top of the antenna and 'purged' the moist air out of the system with nitrogen prior to sealing it all back up (after a leak or O ring change) and making sure it will hold. One local broadcast station is notorius for running out of nitrogen on the hill and letting it go for months on end. When they finally decide it is time, I put a new tank on, crank it up, climb the tower and open the valve on the top to push all the old 'air' out with the new clean nitrogen. Again, no change in VSWR unless the system leaked enough to take on moisture. When that happens you can see some VSWR, and often you get arcing inside the feedline (not good). Good Luck! Daron J. Wilson, RCDD ) ) Telecom Manager ( ( LH Morris Electric, Inc. ) ) (541) 265-8067 office _|| mmm! (541) 265-7652 fax ( || coffee! (541) 270-5886 cellular \|| [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| -Original Message- From: Mark Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static? I will answer that , your antenna cable is using that stuff intead of foam like the RG series coaxes run, and as long as everything is a tight fitting you have very good LOW SWR, thing is ...when it leaks a o ring seal the VSWR shoots up ! Alot of this I am learning in Broadcasting since they use power in the High KW Mega Watt Range. now you can impress your Radio Guy that you learned something, I probably expect maybe a response. Mark Holman, CRO ( Future CTO ) AB8RU - Original Message - From: KA9QJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static? That was such a good explanintion about tires , I recall seeing fittings on Large coax at the Police Communications Center and I ask the radio Man what it was for and He just said it was Nitrogen. and I was just a Police Sgt and a Ham and would not understand , Nice Guy Yea Right So what was it really for ? Thanks Don KA9QJG 444.750/R Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile duplexer tuning (some theory offered)
Kevin thank you for the fine explanation. Digging deeper into my junque box, I have come up with a Phelps-Dodge duplexer which was on a low power in-house repeater on 464 mc. This one is designed for TX low/RX high, and is the one that will be used for this project. I am tuning and evaluating it now. In the name of education, I will be comparing these two units as measured on the bench and noting the differences between them for future reference. Thanks again Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laryn Lohman wrote: Tuning a TFE6030 duplexer. I am aware that the high/low arrangement of frequencies should normally remain the same. However this unit has three cavities (helicals?) on what was the TX (higher I believe) side, and only one cavity on the RX (lower) side. For the ham band the TX will be the lower frequency. What is the recommendation in this case? Not to use it on a repeater where the transmitter is the lower frequency. Why? Read your question below first, then read on. Also, those three cavities have an additional adjustment on the coax end of each. What is this for? To notch out transmitter side-band noise. (undesired energy in which appears directly on the receiver frequency) You see, it generally much more important (or more of a requirement) to eliminate transmitter side-band noise *on* the receiver frequency than it is to eliminate transmitter carrier power from getting into the receiver. This is the reason why there are more sections of filtering on the transmitter side of this duplexer. Let's go into some math and theory. While this text represents a 2 meter duplexer scenario, the basic theory is the same for any band. A duplexer must attenuate the transmitter carrier, this prevents receiver overloading, which in turn would reduce receiver sensitivity. A duplexer must also attenuate any noise or spurious energy from the transmitter on or near the receive frequency. In addition, a duplexer must provide a proper match between transmitter, antenna and receiver. If you are having trouble visualizing these functions, take a look at this link: http://www.repeater-builder.com/pix/dupfig13.jpg Transmitter output on 146.94 MHz going from point C to D should not be attenuated. However, the transmitter energy should be greatly attenuated between points B and A. Duplexer section 2 should attenuate any noise or signals that are on or near the receiver input frequency of 146.34 MHz. For good reception, the noise and spurious signal level must be less than -130 dB (0 dBm = 1 milliwatt into 50 ohms). Typical transmitter noise 600 kHz from the carrier frequency is 80 dB below the transmitter power output. For 60 watts of output (+48 dBm), the noise is -32 dBm. The duplexer must make up the difference between - 32 and -130 dBm, or -98 dBm. Now, let's talk about the received signal. First of all, the received signal must go from point B to A with a minimum of attenuation. Section 1 of the duplexer needs to provide enough attenuation of transmitted energy to prevent receiver overload. For an average receiver, the transmitter signal must be less than -30 dBm to meet this requirement. It is the job of duplexer section 1 to make up the difference between the transmitter output of + 48 dBm and the receiver overload point of -30 dBm, or a reduction of about 78 dB. A typical duplexer, that has the same construction for both sides, will generally give several dB of receiver overload headroom, but may *just make* or *not even make* the transmitter side-band requirement for no desense. My recommendation is not to use this Motorola TFE6030 duplexer in a situation where the transmitter is on the side having only one cavity because insufficient transmitter side-band noise reduction will result and your system will have unresolvable desense. It will, however, work fine on a repeater (or full duplex link) that transmits high and receives low. Hope this helps... Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: radial tire static?
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One local broadcast station is notorius for running out of nitrogen on the hill and letting it go for months on end. When they finally decide it is time, I put a new tank on, crank it up, climb the tower and open the valve on the top to push all the old 'air' out with the new clean nitrogen. Again, no change in VSWR unless the system leaked enough to take on moisture. When that happens you can see some VSWR, and often you get arcing inside the feedline (not good). Good Luck! Daron J. Wilson, RCDD ) ) Telecom Manager ( ( LH Morris Electric, Inc. ) ) (541) 265-8067 office _|| mmm! (541) 265-7652 fax ( || coffee! (541) 270-5886 cellular \|| [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Reminds me of a story told by a broadcast engineer friend of mine... A co-tenant of a site that he took care of regularly cooked several hundred feet of Heliax by neglecting to keep the line pressurized. Seems the station management knew no better--simply accepted the purchase of new line every few years as a necessary expense. *Brilliant engineering* Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static?
I bought Kelly Tires for my 1994 Dodge Shadow and I use regular Air , one thing ABT Dodges is that they designed their vechicles for 2 way applications like running DC PWR cables thru a rubber plug that slits w/a jackknife. 204,700 Miles and still running. Mark Holman, CRO AB8RU - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static? I now fill my tires with Invar to eliminate the expansion and contraction due to temperature, otherwise they go out of tune. And I connect them with Heliax instead of LMR-400 to cure the static. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Tony King - W4ZT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:58 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static? I believe you'll find the following interesting: Gay-Lussac and Avogadro's Law * At a given temperature, the number of moles of a gas is directly proportional to its volume. * The molar volume of a gas, regardless of its identity, is constant * n/V = constant (at constant T and P) If one has a gas mixture, the partial pressure of each gas is proportional to its number of moles. The total pressure of the mixture is a simple sum of the partial pressures. That is to say simply, there isn't enough difference in air and pure nitrogen to see ANY difference in the expansion and contraction. What you do see is a difference in the density of nitrogen and oxygen. Nitrogen, being more dense, migrates less through other materials. And, nitrogen doesn't cause oxidation of other materials which can eventually lead to failure, but not likely in a common automobile tire. Dry nitrogen is used in large aircraft tires all the time primarily because of the much higher pressures involved and the fact that it will not migrate through the tire material. It also will not support the oxidation of the tire or wheel. For automotive applications, I can't see where it would make a bit of difference to anyone except those SELLING THE IDEA that it will! That is unless you're too lazy to check your tire pressures and are willing to pay someone else large sums of money to take care of that minute task for you. Of course this really isn't a tire static issue ;) 73, Tony W4ZT Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Jumper help!
I am finishing up my uhf repeater buildup, and I made up some 1/4 superflex jumpers from the radio (Converted mitrek) to the duplexer to replace the crummy ones I am using now (One is a RG-8, the other an RG-8M,lots of adapters and everything, yuk!). The connectors on the radios are so-239, and the duplexer has n, so I soldered on a pl- 259 to the 1/4 as shown on the repeater builder site. When I installed the new jumpers the power out went to s#$, but its fine using the crummy jumpers. I checked the new jumpers they are good, not shorted, and measure 50 ohms into a dummy load. What am I missing here? Thanks! Tom W9SRV Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
What state and city are they located in? thanks, dougd KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 and was very happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have what you need. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as well. - Original Message - From: wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any chance they have a web site? Scott Madison, WN1B/8 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad I could be of help Ralph, Please let us know how you make out. I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in stock and got it to me earlier in the week the same day. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, W3PS/RPT. - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. They have them in stock in the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e I have seen this discussed before but looked in the past messages and could not find it. Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 bay dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 range for a ham repeater ? Thanks Russ. That is the name I was looking for but just could not remember it or find it in the past messages. 73 de KU4PT __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
I believe the office I spoke to was Glassboro (or something like that) in New Jersey. They also made mention of another office somewhere in Georgia. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: Doug D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e What state and city are they located in? thanks, dougd KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 and was very happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have what you need. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as well. - Original Message - From: wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any chance they have a web site? Scott Madison, WN1B/8 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad I could be of help Ralph, Please let us know how you make out. I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in stock and got it to me earlier in the week the same day. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, W3PS/RPT. - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. They have them in stock in the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e I have seen this discussed before but looked in the past messages and could not find it. Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 bay dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 range for a ham repeater ? Thanks Russ. That is the name I was looking for but just could not remember it or find it in the past messages. 73 de KU4PT __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] GE-Moto (relay question)
Kevin, That is one awesome repeater! Nice mix of GE and Motorola stuff. I sort of have the reverse situation with GE receiver / exciter and Moto PA. I have questions concerning the PA selection relays. I assume you have relays at the PA outputs as well as the inputs? What type of relays are you using and do you have some means of preventing them from hot switching while RF power is applied? And if not, what happens in the event of a power failure while the machine is in use? I mean do the relays handle it OK? The PA has been off my VHF repeater for some time due to a relay problem. I need to get it back up there as we took a major coverage hit when it failed. I want to run the tube PA when AC power is on, but need to default to running just the repeater / exciter (20 watts) when on battery backup. I used coaxial relays to handle the switching but the relay on the output of the PA self destructed (I'm guessing as a result of not being able to handle hot switching, though I have no proof that is what led to failure). I am currently trying to come up with some plan as to how to proceed with this situation... Maybe I just need better relays? PA output is about 200 watts. BTW folks, I've had several unexpected things thrown at me lately. As a result I have been delayed on my coaxial collinear project and photos, darn it! I will get back to it ASAP! I expect it to be soon. Paul N1BUG On Friday 19 November 2004 01:53 pm, Kevin Custer wrote: As promised: http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/hmftinfo.html Dial Up users beware, there are several high resolution pictures, but they are worth the wait. Hi Speeders, enjoy! Comments or Questions on the GE-Moto welcome. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Jumper help!
Did you measure the 50 ohms with a multimeter? If you did, try putting power to the cables with a radio and measure the reflected power of the jumper by itself. Sometimes a DC 50 ohms does not equal an RF 50 ohms. The other possiblilty might be that the RG8 was the exact lengths to make it work properly. RG8 has a velocity factor of about 66% and hardline is typically around 88% velocity factor. The hardline jumpers would have to be longer than the RG8 jumpers to equal the same RF electrical length. For example, a 40 inch RG8 jumper would be 53 inches using the above velocity factors. My bet is on the soldered connectors on the hardline. 73, Joe, K1ike --- tgundo2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I installed the new jumpers the power out went to s#$, but its fine using the crummy jumpers. I checked the new jumpers they are good, not shorted, and measure 50 ohms into a dummy load. What am I missing here? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE-Moto (antenna relay question)
Paul Kelley wrote: Kevin, That is one awesome repeater! Nice mix of GE and Motorola stuff. I sort of have the reverse situation with GE receiver / exciter and Moto PA. I have questions concerning the PA selection relays. I assume you have relays at the PA outputs as well as the inputs? Correct. The Micor Mobile antenna relay is used backwards, as the exciter input goes to the PL connector. The connection marked R or receive is of course normally closed. This connection goes to the input of the 110 watt PA, the other port (T) is going to the input of the 10 watt PA. At the other end exists the factory GE antenna relay that originally connected the antenna to the receiver or amplifier output (this amplifier was used in Basestation service before and had the relay already in place). The output of the 110 watt PA goes the the normally closed port of the output relay (the one that originally fed the receiver). The output relay only engages when the GE tube PA is driven (with RF and PTT) and of course is the PA that is selected. What type of relays are you using A Micor Mobile antenna relay for the input power (400 mW), and the OEM GE antenna relay used with the high power station (part number unknown, but it looks and is similar in size to a Dow Key Relay) for the hot side of the RF. and do you have some means of preventing them from hot switching while RF power is applied? Sort of. By virtue of the way the output relay is driven, drive is actually removed from the tube PA before the output antenna relay switches. While drive and power already exists from the 110 watt PA, I felt this was the lesser of the two evils. And if not, what happens in the event of a power failure while the machine is in use? Since these relays are driven from a 110 volt derived source, they simply drop out and the 110 watt PA takes over. It switches in a matter of milliseconds and the user might only tell by his S meter. I mean do the relays handle it OK? They seem to. In normal practice, the antenna relays are actually switched prior to the channel element being enabled. This function was incorporated into the Station Control Module by using the delays already built into that module. While I'm not suggesting the way I do it is the best, and while I don't make it a practice of hot switching the PA's, it does work and hasn't given any trouble, yet; however it's only been on the air a short time. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE-Moto (relay question)
How about running the exciter PTT or A+ through timed relay contacts that will open on a power failure, and then close again after sufficient time for a cold switch to be made has elapsed? The brief interruption of signal should be of little consequence to voice users, and might also serve to notify nearby users that a switch had been made. Steve AA5SG - Original Message - From: Paul Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE-Moto (relay question) Kevin, That is one awesome repeater! Nice mix of GE and Motorola stuff. I sort of have the reverse situation with GE receiver / exciter and Moto PA. I have questions concerning the PA selection relays. I assume you have relays at the PA outputs as well as the inputs? What type of relays are you using and do you have some means of preventing them from hot switching while RF power is applied? And if not, what happens in the event of a power failure while the machine is in use? I mean do the relays handle it OK? The PA has been off my VHF repeater for some time due to a relay problem. I need to get it back up there as we took a major coverage hit when it failed. I want to run the tube PA when AC power is on, but need to default to running just the repeater / exciter (20 watts) when on battery backup. I used coaxial relays to handle the switching but the relay on the output of the PA self destructed (I'm guessing as a result of not being able to handle hot switching, though I have no proof that is what led to failure). I am currently trying to come up with some plan as to how to proceed with this situation... Maybe I just need better relays? PA output is about 200 watts. BTW folks, I've had several unexpected things thrown at me lately. As a result I have been delayed on my coaxial collinear project and photos, darn it! I will get back to it ASAP! I expect it to be soon. Paul N1BUG On Friday 19 November 2004 01:53 pm, Kevin Custer wrote: As promised: http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/hmftinfo.html Dial Up users beware, there are several high resolution pictures, but they are worth the wait. Hi Speeders, enjoy! Comments or Questions on the GE-Moto welcome. Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
They also do have the DB-224e in stock I bought one from them last week. I got the price from Dean in the Glassboro NJ office. We installed it this morning and it is working very well on our 147.315 repeater in Chester PA. It is nice that some one still stocks good antennas in the Ham bands and at a fair price. They also have flat rate shipping so they keep the truck shipping down as well. 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I believe the office I spoke to was Glassboro (or something like that) in New Jersey. They also made mention of another office somewhere in Georgia. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: Doug D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e What state and city are they located in? thanks, dougd KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 and was very happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have what you need. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as well. - Original Message - From: wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any chance they have a web site? Scott Madison, WN1B/8 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad I could be of help Ralph, Please let us know how you make out. I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in stock and got it to me earlier in the week the same day. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, W3PS/RPT. - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. They have them in stock in the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e I have seen this discussed before but looked in the past messages and could not find it. Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 bay dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 range for a ham repeater ? Thanks Russ. That is the name I was looking for but just could not remember it or find it in the past messages. 73 de KU4PT __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap the assembled knowledge of the group... Is there a software package available that will let someone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image files and produce a single PDF file? The current situation is 27 individual page scans from a Motorola manual that needs to go into one PDF file - but there will be more in the future. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
Cook Towers, and all their phone numbers, is on the Suppliers page at www.repeater-builder.com I think it's under antennas. At 05:05 AM 11/20/04, you wrote: I believe the office I spoke to was Glassboro (or something like that) in New Jersey. They also made mention of another office somewhere in Georgia. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: Doug D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e What state and city are they located in? thanks, dougd KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 and was very happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have what you need. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as well. - Original Message - From: wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any chance they have a web site? Scott Madison, WN1B/8 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad I could be of help Ralph, Please let us know how you make out. I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in stock and got it to me earlier in the week the same day. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, W3PS/RPT. - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. They have them in stock in the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e I have seen this discussed before but looked in the past messages and could not find it. Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 bay dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 range for a ham repeater ? Thanks Russ. That is the name I was looking for but just could not remember it or find it in the past messages. 73 de KU4PT __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
To create a PDF file you will have to have the full version of Adobe Acrobat, it is the only program that is able to creat them. There is a software license on that one that to my knowledge has never been broken. Mathew - Original Message - From: Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list... I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap the assembled knowledge of the group... Is there a software package available that will let someone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image files and produce a single PDF file? The current situation is 27 individual page scans from a Motorola manual that needs to go into one PDF file - but there will be more in the future. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
Do a google search for a PDF printer driver, there are many free ones to use. Throw all of your gifs and jpegs into Word and create you document. Then, after installing a pdf printer program, you select the pdf printer as your default printer and "print" your word doc. A box will come up that lets you name the file and then it makes it a pdf. Easy as that, I use it at work all the time. You can make pdf's out of any program that prints. Tom W9SRVMike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap theassembled knowledge of the group...Is there a software package available that will letsomeone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image filesand produce a single PDF file?The current situation is 27 individual page scansfrom a Motorola manual that needs to go intoone PDF file - but there will be more in the future.Mike WA6ILQYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e
They Have offices in Glassboro NJ (south NJ), A big warehouse in New Castle Del., A sales office in Eagleville PA. and a Office out side of Atlanta GA. Contact info. NJ- 856-881-6777 PA- 610-631-3447 GA- 770-423-7553 DE- 302-328-0339 Toll free- 877-992-2665 No web page. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this will be of help. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee Metro-Comm, INC W3PS/RPT. - Original Message - From: Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I believe the office I spoke to was Glassboro (or something like that) in New Jersey. They also made mention of another office somewhere in Georgia. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: Doug D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e What state and city are they located in? thanks, dougd KC2KGY WPSI726 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do not have a website. I just purchased a ham split DB408 and was very happy with them. You just have to call them and see if they have what you need. Adam N2ACF - Original Message - From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e I do not thank they have a Web site but there e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the toll free number is 877-992-2665 Kathy Cook gives the best prices to us Hams. She is a Ham as well. - Original Message - From: wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any chance they have a web site? Scott Madison, WN1B/8 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad I could be of help Ralph, Please let us know how you make out. I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in stock and got it to me earlier in the week the same day. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee Metro-Comm, INC, W3PS/RPT. - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers. They have them in stock in the Ham bands and discount to us Hams. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e I have seen this discussed before but looked in the past messages and could not find it. Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4 bay dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150 range for a ham repeater ? Thanks Russ. That is the name I was looking for but just could not remember it or find it in the past messages. 73 de KU4PT __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
There are other third party PDF creators. Google around and you'll find them. I think there is one called PDFCreator on SourceForge.Net - Rob At 06:22 PM 11/20/2004, you wrote: To create a PDF file you will have to have the full version of Adobe Acrobat, it is the only program that is able to creat them. There is a software license on that one that to my knowledge has never been broken. Mathew - Original Message - From: Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list... I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap the assembled knowledge of the group... Is there a software package available that will let someone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image files and produce a single PDF file? The current situation is 27 individual page scans from a Motorola manual that needs to go into one PDF file - but there will be more in the future. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
Another way is to use Windows picture and fax viewer (available in XP), select all of the JPGs for printing, then send 'em to the pdf driver. That's what I use. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message-From: TGundo 2003 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:46 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list... Do a google search for a PDF printer driver, there are many free ones to use. Throw all of your gifs and jpegs into Word and create you document. Then, after installing a pdf printer program, you select the pdf printer as your default printer and "print" your word doc. A box will come up that lets you name the file and then it makes it a pdf. Easy as that, I use it at work all the time. You can make pdf's out of any program that prints. Tom W9SRVMike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap theassembled knowledge of the group...Is there a software package available that will letsomeone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image filesand produce a single PDF file?The current situation is 27 individual page scansfrom a Motorola manual that needs to go intoone PDF file - but there will be more in the future.Mike WA6ILQYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!?The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
Mike: It may be more expensive or trouble than you are looking for, but Paperport Pro 9.0 will allow you to scan directly to PDF. You can scan individual pages and Paperport allows you to drop them onto each other to stack them into a multipage document. I use Paperport 9.0 and it is an extremely useful program. After you have scanned, you can edit the document in the pageviewer mode by erasing or drawing lines or adding annotations. With grayscale or color, there is a tool that allows you to lighten or darken the page. It works fairly well. Some color scans of magazine articles will show the rumples and folds in the paper and this is a way to take them out. I have a Fujitsu FI-4120-C which is a duplex scanner that will do 25 pages per minute at 200 dpi. I can scan multiple pages into Paperport, then stack them or separate them as necessary. You can also convert to other formats, or you can import other formats to it. It also has a native format .MAX files which was proprietary to Scansoft. I can simply print these to PDF in Paperport 9.0. It has both color and monochrome drivers. I hope this is helpful. Micheal Salem N5MS Mike WA6ILQ wrote: I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap the assembled knowledge of the group... Is there a software package available that will let someone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image files and produce a single PDF file? The current situation is 27 individual page scans from a Motorola manual that needs to go into one PDF file - but there will be more in the future. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...
From: Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list... I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap the assembled knowledge of the group... Is there a software package available that will let someone drag-and-drop JPG or GIF image files and produce a single PDF file? The current situation is 27 individual page scans from a Motorola manual that needs to go into one PDF file - but there will be more in the future. Mike WA6ILQ At 03:51 PM 11/20/04, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are other third party PDF creators. Google around and you'll find them. I think there is one called PDFCreator on SourceForge.Net I've had that one for over a year... it's good and best of all, free. I was hoping that there would be a drag-and-drop solution... At 03:46 PM 11/20/04, TGundo 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do a google search for a PDF printer driver, there are many free ones to use. Throw all of your gifs and jpegs into Word and create you document. Then, after installing a pdf printer program, you select the pdf printer as your default printer and print your word doc. A box will come up that lets you name the file and then it makes it a pdf. Easy as that, I use it at work all the time. You can make pdf's out of any program that prints. Tom W9SRV I'll try the idea of sucking them into Word and printing with it. I've got Office 2K and 256mb and PDFCreator. At 03:22 PM 11/20/04, Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To create a PDF file you will have to have the full version of Adobe Acrobat.. A friend has a copy of Acrobat Distiller 4 which was on the open-box closeout table at CompUSA and missing the manual... he never figured out how to use it and figured it was $15 down the drain... gave it to me to try and make sense of it, but I never did. Maybe the CD was defective, or something else was missing. Here's what was on it... NameSizeTypeModified Acrobat Distiller 4 File Folder 4/12/02 8:53:34 AM _INST32I.EX_291,062 EX_ File7/30/98 12:59:08 PM _ISDEL.EXE 8,704 Application 1/27/98 2:07:44 PM _SETUP.DLL 11,264 Application Extension 1/23/98 2:40:20 PM _SYS1.CAB 210,386 CAB File3/12/99 9:17:42 AM _USER1.CAB 288,426 CAB File3/12/99 9:17:46 AM Abcpy.ini 737 Configuration Settings 2/17/99 10:14:20 AM DATA.TAG114 TAG File3/12/99 9:17:48 AM DATA1.CAB 15,314,495 CAB File3/12/99 9:19:02 AM LANG.DAT4,525 DAT File10/20/97 10:20:28 AM LAYOUT.BIN 334 BIN File3/12/99 9:19:02 AM LEGENDS.NFO 6,355 MSInfo Document 4/22/99 11:07:42 PM OS.DAT 417 DAT File5/6/97 2:15:20 PM SETUP.EXE 60,416 Application 1/22/98 10:08:28 PM SETUP.INI 75 Configuration Settings 3/12/99 9:17:48 AM SETUP.INS 110,321 Internet Communication Settings 3/12/99 9:17:20 AM SETUP.LID 49 LID File3/12/99 9:19:02 AM At 04:01 PM 11/20/04, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another way is to use Windows picture and fax viewer (available in XP), select all of the JPGs for printing, then send 'em to the pdf driver. That's what I use. Richard, N7TGB H All the more reason to upgrade (?) from Win98. Was holding off until I had a P4 chip at a gig or more ... right now the main box is a P3-500... How do you select which sequence to make them print? maybe rename them and let the natural sort sequence handle it? Any other comments? Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
