[Repeater-Builder] vertical antenna isolation

2005-01-12 Thread ad5oj



I am building a 2m amateur repeater with out a duplexer and am using 
vertical seperation instead.  I have two 2m Handheld radios placed 
with seperate antennas on a tower instead of placing them at the 
bottom of the tower.  I am having trouble with distorted audio 
coming out of the transmitter when it is set up this way.  I have 
about 5 wavelengths between the transmiter and receiver.  I was 
wondering if I am overlooking somthing or if anyone has experence in 
this area.










 
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[Repeater-Builder] CTCSS tone timing question

2005-01-12 Thread Eric Lemmon

If the radio manufacturer claims to meet the requirements of
EIA/TIA-603B, an international standard for land-mobile radios, then the
radio MUST decode a standard CTCSS tone of 100 Hz or above in less than
250 ms.  If the tone is lower than 100 Hz, then the maximum decode time
in milliseconds is given by dividing 25,000 by the tone frequency in
Hz.  Thus, a 67 Hz CTCSS tone must be decoded within 373 ms.  This
decode time is based upon a standard CTCSS deviation of 500 Hz.  Most
modern radios are capable of decoding a proper CTCSS tone far more
quickly than the standard requires.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

erdinç oguz wrote:

I need information about Yaesu FT-50R (or any other HT).  If it is on
tone squelch mode, What is the CTCSS tone detection time?...





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] vertical antenna isolation

2005-01-12 Thread Ralph Mowery


--- ad5oj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 I am building a 2m amateur repeater with out a
 duplexer and am using 
 vertical seperation instead.  I have two 2m Handheld
 radios placed 
 with seperate antennas on a tower instead of placing
 them at the 
 bottom of the tower.  I am having trouble with
 distorted audio 
 coming out of the transmitter when it is set up this
 way.  I have 
 about 5 wavelengths between the transmiter and
 receiver.  I was 
 wondering if I am overlooking somthing or if anyone
 has experence in 
 this area.
 

About 100 feet of antenna seperation, are you using
atleast double shielded coax like lmr-400 or beter
(hopefully hardline), are the two radios in shielded
boxes and the power/audio lines bypassed to ground.


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[Repeater-Builder] UHF Maxtrac or Radius Mobile 400-430

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Mullarkey











I am need of 10 units 400-430 radios for a link project. If
any of you on the list may have some in a box please contact me off the list.



Sincerely,



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Mike Mullarkey

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread JOHN MACKEY

I am using one of these receivers, taking the logic that drives the
LED's for watch  warning to tell my repeater controller (RLC-Club)
that a watch/warning is active.  I use the radio shack receiver
 have had no problems.  However, I have plenty of NWS signal.

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Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:58:13 AM CST
From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners
 The local Radio Shacks here in the San Gabriel Valley
 (northeast of Los Angeles) are closing out on the
 SAME WeatherRadio, stock number 12-251.  This is the
SNIP
 On first inspection I think I can come up with a mod to
 insert audio from an outside, more robust receiver (i.e.
 a Micor or a Mastr II) by installing a SPDT switch that
 connects the decoder audio input to either the local RX
 or an outside RX.  I think I can extract the Watch and
 Warning signals to open collector outputs.  I haven't
 gotten far enough inside to tell, but I think I can mount
 a DB9 to the case and run all the interfacing through that
 connector.






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

If you'd be willing to share your notes and interfacing
information it will save me having to reinvent that part
of the wheel.

If the mod is as easy as I think it is I will do up a web
page for repeater-builder.

And in my location the external RX isn't needed, but I
am going to try and develop that part of the mod anyway,
simple because it will be of help to others that don't have
the best signal.
The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet.  I've got line of sight to
the TX... I can see the antenna with a decent pair of field
glasses - it's at a 30-40 degree angle of elevation about
8-9 miles away...

Mike WA6ILQ

At 11:05 PM 1/11/05, you wrote:

I am using one of these receivers, taking the logic that drives the
LED's for watch  warning to tell my repeater controller (RLC-Club)
that a watch/warning is active.  I use the radio shack receiver
 have had no problems.  However, I have plenty of NWS signal.

-- Original Message --
Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:58:13 AM CST
From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners
  The local Radio Shacks here in the San Gabriel Valley
  (northeast of Los Angeles) are closing out on the
  SAME WeatherRadio, stock number 12-251.  This is the
SNIP
  On first inspection I think I can come up with a mod to
  insert audio from an outside, more robust receiver (i.e.
  a Micor or a Mastr II) by installing a SPDT switch that
  connects the decoder audio input to either the local RX
  or an outside RX.  I think I can extract the Watch and
  Warning signals to open collector outputs.  I haven't
  gotten far enough inside to tell, but I think I can mount
  a DB9 to the case and run all the interfacing through that
  connector.







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[Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread motarolla_doctor


Lightning, WA6ILQ 
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 The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
 it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet. 
 Mike WA6ILQ


OPPS, Lightning, you made a mistake. The NWS is on Mt lukens on .55 
and on Santiago peak, .450 IIRC.  On the Mt lukens NWS' ID it states 
located on Mt Lukens... It was moved there almost a year ago, better 
coverage in into Oxnard/ Ventura.

Good idea on the RS NWS receiver, tho!








 
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[Repeater-Builder] FS or Trade

2005-01-12 Thread rrath

Thank you Kevin for the space. I have for sale or trade a Celwave 
mobile VHF duplexer, model HFD8189A. This came with a GR 300 
(not for sale) repeater I resently bought. Freq range per the lable is 
155-162. I was told it will do 4.5 mhz to 6 mhz split. It came from a 
working system. I am need of a mobile duplexer for HAM 2 meter 
split ( if there is even one made). Or some other VHF or UHF 
repeater item for trade. Please contact me off list at rrath (at) charter 
(dot) net. Thanks

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

At 02:48 AM 1/12/05, you wrote:

  The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
  it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet.
  Mike WA6ILQ

you made a mistake. The NWS is on Mt lukens on .55
and on Santiago peak, .450 IIRC.  On the Mt lukens NWS' ID it states
located on Mt Lukens... It was moved there almost a year ago, better
coverage in into Oxnard/ Ventura.

Good idea on the RS NWS receiver, tho!

Ok, it's 10 miles away at a 20-25 degree angle.  It's still 50db
quieting on a 1 inch piece of wet kite string.

Mike  





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread Neil McKie


Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:

  ... snip ... 

 Ok, it's 10 miles away at a 20-25 degree angle.  It's still 50db 
 quieting on a 1 inch piece of wet kite string. 

  On a dry day ... 

 
 Mike 

  Neil





 
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[Repeater-Builder] FS or Trade 1st post did not come thru

2005-01-12 Thread rrath

Thank you Kevin for the space. I have for sale or trade a Celwave 
mobile VHF duplexer, model HFD8189A. This came with a GR 300 
(not for sale) repeater I resently bought. Freq range per the lable is 
155-162. I was told it will do 4.5 mhz to 6 mhz split. It came from a 
working system. I am need of a mobile duplexer for HAM 2 meter 
split ( if there is even one made). Or some other VHF or UHF 
repeater item for trade. Please contact me off list at rrath (at) charter
(dot) net. Thanks

Rod KC7VQR





 
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[Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Holm

I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering what
folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style connectors.
What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more reliable
or easier to assemble?  Thanks.

73  Paul





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread russ

Bogner makes a nice 10 Dbd for 150 MHz used a lot by the Coast Guard. But it
is about 80 feet long and gets side mounted it is multi folded dipoles. Lord
knows how much that thing must cost. smile.
73 Russ,

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 250W into a 10 dB stick for VHF? I'd like one of those antennas for
 2-Meters. Who makes it?
 LJ



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 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:41:51 -0800
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 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners



 At 02:48 AM 1/12/05, you wrote:

   The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
   it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet.
   Mike WA6ILQ
 
 you made a mistake. The NWS is on Mt lukens on .55
 and on Santiago peak, .450 IIRC.  On the Mt lukens NWS' ID it states
 located on Mt Lukens... It was moved there almost a year ago, better
 coverage in into Oxnard/ Ventura.
 
 Good idea on the RS NWS receiver, tho!

 Ok, it's 10 miles away at a 20-25 degree angle.  It's still 50db
 quieting on a 1 inch piece of wet kite string.

 Mike






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread russ

Hello All,
I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a repeater,
They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is easier
to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
73 Russ, W3CH

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
 interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering what
 folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style connectors.
 What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
reliable
 or easier to assemble?  Thanks.

 73  Paul






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

250W into a 10 dB stick for VHF? I'd like one of those antennas for
2-Meters. Who makes it?
LJ



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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:41:51 -0800
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At 02:48 AM 1/12/05, you wrote:

  The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
  it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet.
  Mike WA6ILQ

you made a mistake. The NWS is on Mt lukens on .55
and on Santiago peak, .450 IIRC.  On the Mt lukens NWS' ID it states
located on Mt Lukens... It was moved there almost a year ago, better
coverage in into Oxnard/ Ventura.

Good idea on the RS NWS receiver, tho!

Ok, it's 10 miles away at a 20-25 degree angle.  It's still 50db
quieting on a 1 inch piece of wet kite string.

Mike  





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Gregg R. Lengling

I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin) are 
probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of 
government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp 
type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier to 
inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using 
clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.

Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
K2/100 SN 3075
http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org

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 Hello All,
 I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a repeater,
 They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is 
 easier
 to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
 73 Russ, W3CH

 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
 interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering what
 folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style connectors.
 What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
 reliable
 or easier to assemble?  Thanks.

 73  Paul






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey

I agree and so does TX/RX Systems, makers of some really nice duplexers and 
other good stuff. Their research showed that a properly applied crimp 
connector was superior in every aspect.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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 I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin) 
 are
 probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of
 government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp
 type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier to
 inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
 clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.

 Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
 K2/100 SN 3075
 http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org

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 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:30 AM
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 Hello All,
 I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a repeater,
 They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
 easier
 to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
 73 Russ, W3CH

 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
 interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering 
 what
 folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style connectors.
 What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
 reliable
 or easier to assemble?  Thanks.

 73  Paul






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Finch

Hello,

I have to agree, back in the days of Quintron they spent a lot of money
trying to figure out which one was best.  They found the crimp-on connectors
were more dependable as we as making better connection.  Them made sure
because some of their transmitter ran 500 watts and their 900 MHz stations
ran 300.

Paul


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I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin) are
probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of
government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp
type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier to
inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.

Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
K2/100 SN 3075
http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org

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 Hello All,
 I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a repeater,
 They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
 easier
 to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
 73 Russ, W3CH

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
 interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering what
 folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style connectors.
 What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
 reliable
 or easier to assemble?  Thanks.

 73  Paul






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[Repeater-Builder] I let the smoke out!

2005-01-12 Thread kd4gpi


Hi All,

I let the smoke out of a Micronta (Radio Shack) Range Doubler 
multimeter model 260X2. It's a bad thing when you are set to measure 
resistance and put 120VAC across the meter. It split one resistor in 
half in the R X 1 position. Its value was labeled not color-coded. I 
can no longer read it. Does anyone have one of these meters? I need 
help identifying the value.

Thanks,
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread Bob Dengler

At 1/11/2005 11:35 PM, you wrote:

And in my location the external RX isn't needed, but I
am going to try and develop that part of the mod anyway,
simple because it will be of help to others that don't have
the best signal.
The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet.

You haven't listened to it lately.  It now announces that it's located on 
Mt. Lukens.  Based on the puny signal I get from it, I don't think it runs 
250 watts anymore either.

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread Bob Dengler

At 1/12/2005 02:48 AM, you wrote:


Lightning, WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The local NWS TX here is 250w (into a 10db stick), and
  it's on Mount Wilson at 5000 feet.
  Mike WA6ILQ


OPPS, Lightning, you made a mistake. The NWS is on Mt lukens on .55
and on Santiago peak, .450 IIRC.

Although 162.450 doesn't ID with a location anymore, it used to announce 
that it was on Pleasants Peak, between Sierra  Santiago Peak.

Bob NO6B






 
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FW: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Finch

Man,

Did I blow the common sense test on my last post!  Sorry!  Have corrected it
below.

Paul


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From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:13 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



Hello,

I have to agree, back in the days of Quintron they spent a lot of money
trying to figure out which one was best.  They found the crimp-on connectors
were more dependable as well as making better connections.  They made sure
because some of their transmitters ran 500 watts and their 900 MHz stations
ran 300, if it's gonna leak 900 is the one it would affect the most.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Gregg R. Lengling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:31 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin) are
probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of
government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp
type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier to
inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.

Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
K2/100 SN 3075
http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org

- Original Message -
From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 Hello All,
 I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a repeater,
 They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
 easier
 to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
 73 Russ, W3CH

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
 interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering what
 folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style connectors.
 What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
 reliable
 or easier to assemble?  Thanks.

 73  Paul






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners

2005-01-12 Thread Al

I just picked up one of the radio shack receiver (12-251). If someone has a 
little more info on how to hook up to the controller. I would appreciate it.

73, Al

- Original Message - 
From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners



 I am using one of these receivers, taking the logic that drives the
 LED's for watch  warning to tell my repeater controller (RLC-Club)
 that a watch/warning is active.  I use the radio shack receiver
  have had no problems.  However, I have plenty of NWS signal.

 -- Original Message --
 Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:58:13 AM CST
 From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A heads-up to repeater owners
 The local Radio Shacks here in the San Gabriel Valley
 (northeast of Los Angeles) are closing out on the
 SAME WeatherRadio, stock number 12-251.  This is the
 SNIP
 On first inspection I think I can come up with a mod to
 insert audio from an outside, more robust receiver (i.e.
 a Micor or a Mastr II) by installing a SPDT switch that
 connects the decoder audio input to either the local RX
 or an outside RX.  I think I can extract the Watch and
 Warning signals to open collector outputs.  I haven't
 gotten far enough inside to tell, but I think I can mount
 a DB9 to the case and run all the interfacing through that
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread russ

Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 Hello,

 I have to agree, back in the days of Quintron they spent a lot of money
 trying to figure out which one was best.  They found the crimp-on
connectors
 were more dependable as we as making better connection.  Them made sure
 because some of their transmitter ran 500 watts and their 900 MHz stations
 ran 300.

 Paul


 -Original Message-
 From: Gregg R. Lengling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:31 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin)
are
 probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of
 government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp
 type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier to
 inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
 clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.

 Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
 K2/100 SN 3075
 http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org

 - Original Message -
 From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors


 
  Hello All,
  I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a
repeater,
  They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
  easier
  to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
  73 Russ, W3CH
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors
 
 
 
  I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
  interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering
what
  folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style
connectors.
  What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
  reliable
  or easier to assemble?  Thanks.
 
  73  Paul
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread russ

NOT True. Mary Brown of TX/RX will tell you that is why they are changing
from Crimp to solder on for all there inter connect cables. Lots of the
noises goes away.

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I agree and so does TX/RX Systems, makers of some really nice duplexers
and
 other good stuff. Their research showed that a properly applied crimp
 connector was superior in every aspect.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gregg R. Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors


 
  I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin)
  are
  probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of
  government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp
  type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier
to
  inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
  clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.
 
  Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
  K2/100 SN 3075
  http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors
 
 
 
  Hello All,
  I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a
repeater,
  They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
  easier
  to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
  73 Russ, W3CH
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors
 
 
 
  I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
  interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering
  what
  folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style
connectors.
  What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
  reliable
  or easier to assemble?  Thanks.
 
  73  Paul
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Finch

Hm, sounds like he said she said!



-Original Message-
From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



NOT True. Mary Brown of TX/RX will tell you that is why they are changing
from Crimp to solder on for all there inter connect cables. Lots of the
noises goes away.

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors



 I agree and so does TX/RX Systems, makers of some really nice duplexers
and
 other good stuff. Their research showed that a properly applied crimp
 connector was superior in every aspect.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



 - Original Message -
 From: Gregg R. Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors


 
  I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin)
  are
  probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot of
  government/military work over the years and it was required to use crimp
  type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier
to
  inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
  clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.
 
  Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
  K2/100 SN 3075
  http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
 
  - Original Message -
  From: russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors
 
 
 
  Hello All,
  I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a
repeater,
  They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
  easier
  to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
  73 Russ, W3CH
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater Builder Reflector Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors
 
 
 
  I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
  interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering
  what
  folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style
connectors.
  What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
  reliable
  or easier to assemble?  Thanks.
 
  73  Paul
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread Randy Elliott

Greeting to the group

I need to decode a single frequency (1050 hz) and output a logic level 
+ or - doesn't matter. I know this sounds really simple but I guess I'm 
stupid today.
I've tried an ne567 PLL and can't even get it to work. (could be bad 
chip though, just dug it out of my junk box)
Anyone have any circuits floating around in your archives that could do 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread mch

Just pick up an older NOAA alert receiver for a few bucks. They have a
1050 Hz tone decoder circuit built in. It's probably cheaper than making
a decoder yourself.

Joe M.

Randy Elliott wrote:
 
 Greeting to the group
 
 I need to decode a single frequency (1050 hz) and output a logic level
 + or - doesn't matter. I know this sounds really simple but I guess I'm
 stupid today.
 I've tried an ne567 PLL and can't even get it to work. (could be bad
 chip though, just dug it out of my junk box)
 Anyone have any circuits floating around in your archives that could do
 what I'm looking for?
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Ken Arck

At 01:56 PM 1/12/2005 -0500, you wrote:

Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

---Quintron is still around. And their radio equipment is excellent stuff
(of course, I'm still running a QT-6700 UHF repeater. 20+ years and still
going strong).

Ken
--
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread k7pfj




As for the crimp or clamp style connector. If you look at many combining system you will notice that 95% of them use the CLAMP style connector. There must be a reason that MOST of the engineers for the companies prefer CLAMP over CRIMP. hmmm there must be a reason. I know that out of all the site we have here in the North West we use nothing but CLAMP.

Mike K7PFJ

-- Original message --   Hm, sounds like he said she said! -Original Message-  From: russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:00 PM  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors NOT True. Mary Brown of TX/RX will tell you that is why they are changing  from Crimp to solder on for all there inter connect cables. Lots of the  noises goes away.   - Original Message -  From: "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:54 AM  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors   I agree and so does TX/RX Systems, makers of some really nice duplexers  and   other good stuff. Their research showed that a properly applied crimp   connector was superior in every aspect. Chuck   WB2EDV - Original Message -   From: "Gregg R. Lengling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To:   Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:30 AM   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors   I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center pin)areprobably the best and most replicable connections made. We did a lot ofgovernment/military work over the years and it was required to use crimptype connectors on flexible cables. They determined that it was easier  toinspect and was more reliably done. When you have someone usingclamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.   Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-RetiredK2/100 SN 3075http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org   - Original Message -From: "russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   To:    Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:30 AMSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors Hello All,I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a  repeater,They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector iseasierto install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!73 Russ, W3CH   - Original Message -From: "Paul Holm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   To: "Repeater Builder Reflector"    Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AMSubject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeaterinterconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors. I'm wonderingwhatfolks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style  connectors.What is more appropriate for this type of cable? Is one style morereliableor easier to assemble? Thanks.   73 Paul  Yahoo! Groups Links   Yahoo! Groups Links   Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links  Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links   * To visit your group on the web, go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/   * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 













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[Repeater-Builder] Looking UHF receiver transmitter

2005-01-12 Thread KC4QLP



I'm looking for a UHF transmitter and receiver to setup a link system 
here. The transmitter doesnt have to be high power as I already have 
a PA tuned for 70cm.Receiver doesnt need to be elaborate as it is 
only going to serve as a link receiver.

Cant spend much more than the cost of shipping..if it isnt an outrageous cost.

Will be looking to hopefully get something going by the end of the 
month.

73,

Bob Carter - KC4QLP

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread russ

You missed the point. Bad business and trying to cheapen the product sent
them the way of many before them.

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  Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

 *chuckles* I really haven't wondered about it.  However, your implied
 logic that they aren't around because they used crimp on RF connectors
 is quite flawed.

 I use both types of connectors in the field routinely.  A good quality
 (i.e. silver plated) RF connector on good quality coaxial cable
 installed with the proper tools by a knowledgeable installer can yield a
 very good quality fitting.  Clearly there are millions of them out there
 in commercial/industrial/military applications.

 Likewise a solder compression type fitting done correctly can yield a
 good quality fitting as well.  Though it doesn't seem to take much
 twisting on the coax at the connector to break the braid loose of the
 compression point.

 I've had very few crimp on connectors fail on me I guess, I've had far
 more compression N connectors pull off the end of coax.

 Your mileage may vary

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread russ

You can't buy a new one smile
They where sold.

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 At 01:56 PM 1/12/2005 -0500, you wrote:

 Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

 ---Quintron is still around. And their radio equipment is excellent stuff
 (of course, I'm still running a QT-6700 UHF repeater. 20+ years and still
 going strong).

 Ken
 --

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 Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread JOHN MACKEY

That is a real pain!!

The old system using 1050 hz decoding goes off weekly on tests, plus will go
off even if the problem is 3 counties away  of no effect to your area.

Stick with SAME decoding.

-- Original Message --
Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:14 PM CST
From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Just pick up an older NOAA alert receiver for a few bucks. They have a
 1050 Hz tone decoder circuit built in. It's probably cheaper than making
 a decoder yourself.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Randy Elliott wrote:
  
  Greeting to the group
  
  I need to decode a single frequency (1050 hz) and output a logic level
  + or - doesn't matter. I know this sounds really simple but I guess I'm
  stupid today.
  I've tried an ne567 PLL and can't even get it to work. (could be bad
  chip though, just dug it out of my junk box)
  Anyone have any circuits floating around in your archives that could do
  what I'm looking for?
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Daron J. Wilson

 
 Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

*chuckles* I really haven't wondered about it.  However, your implied
logic that they aren't around because they used crimp on RF connectors
is quite flawed.  

I use both types of connectors in the field routinely.  A good quality
(i.e. silver plated) RF connector on good quality coaxial cable
installed with the proper tools by a knowledgeable installer can yield a
very good quality fitting.  Clearly there are millions of them out there
in commercial/industrial/military applications.  

Likewise a solder compression type fitting done correctly can yield a
good quality fitting as well.  Though it doesn't seem to take much
twisting on the coax at the connector to break the braid loose of the
compression point. 

I've had very few crimp on connectors fail on me I guess, I've had far
more compression N connectors pull off the end of coax.

Your mileage may vary

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread mch

He didn't say it was for a weather alert. Maybe he has another
application, but a 1050 Hz decoder is a 1050 Hz decoder.

BTW, Mike, thanks for the info on the 12-251 SAME weatheradio. I picked
up two of them. They are getting really hard to find. $17.97 each.

Joe M.

JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
 That is a real pain!!
 
 The old system using 1050 hz decoding goes off weekly on tests, plus will go
 off even if the problem is 3 counties away  of no effect to your area.
 
 Stick with SAME decoding.
 
 -- Original Message --
 Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:14 PM CST
 From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Just pick up an older NOAA alert receiver for a few bucks. They have a
  1050 Hz tone decoder circuit built in. It's probably cheaper than making
  a decoder yourself.
 
  Joe M.
 
  Randy Elliott wrote:
  
   Greeting to the group
  
   I need to decode a single frequency (1050 hz) and output a logic level
   + or - doesn't matter. I know this sounds really simple but I guess I'm
   stupid today.
   I've tried an ne567 PLL and can't even get it to work. (could be bad
   chip though, just dug it out of my junk box)
   Anyone have any circuits floating around in your archives that could do
   what I'm looking for?
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Ken Arck

At 04:23 PM 1/12/2005 -0500, you wrote:

You can't buy a new one smile
They where sold.

---They were?

http://www.quintron.com

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Finch

Bad business?  The paging industry went away, totally!  That's why GLENAYRE
went away.  Quintron went away because Glenayre bought them.

Paul


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You missed the point. Bad business and trying to cheapen the product sent
them the way of many before them.

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  Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

 *chuckles* I really haven't wondered about it.  However, your implied
 logic that they aren't around because they used crimp on RF connectors
 is quite flawed.

 I use both types of connectors in the field routinely.  A good quality
 (i.e. silver plated) RF connector on good quality coaxial cable
 installed with the proper tools by a knowledgeable installer can yield a
 very good quality fitting.  Clearly there are millions of them out there
 in commercial/industrial/military applications.

 Likewise a solder compression type fitting done correctly can yield a
 good quality fitting as well.  Though it doesn't seem to take much
 twisting on the coax at the connector to break the braid loose of the
 compression point.

 I've had very few crimp on connectors fail on me I guess, I've had far
 more compression N connectors pull off the end of coax.

 Your mileage may vary

 73 N7HQR Daron









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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Finch

Yes you can, ISC in Quincy Illinois now owns the manufacturing rights to the
Glenayre and old Quintron paging line.

Paul


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You can't buy a new one smile
They where sold.

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 At 01:56 PM 1/12/2005 -0500, you wrote:

 Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

 ---Quintron is still around. And their radio equipment is excellent stuff
 (of course, I'm still running a QT-6700 UHF repeater. 20+ years and still
 going strong).

 Ken
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Joe


--- Daron J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ever wonder what Quintron is no longer around?

Actually, I KNOW why Quintron is out of business. 
Quintron made quality equipment, mostly for the paging
industry.  They were bought out by Glenayre from
Canada and continued to make quality paging equipment.
 Then the bottom fell out of the paging business.

They went out of business because they couldn't get
paid from companies that were going chapter 11,
bankrupt or out of business.  Motorola also got out of
the paging business.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey


I recently had a series of emails with Mary that were totally unproductive. 
The source of my information originally came from the owner and engineer of 
the company several years ago - Daniel Kaegebein.

Chuck
WB2EDV




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 Hm, sounds like he said she said!



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 NOT True. Mary Brown of TX/RX will tell you that is why they are changing
 from Crimp to solder on for all there inter connect cables. Lots of the
 noises goes away.

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 I agree and so does TX/RX Systems, makers of some really nice duplexers
 and
 other good stuff. Their research showed that a properly applied crimp
 connector was superior in every aspect.

 Chuck
 WB2EDV



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 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:30 AM
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  I dissagree...crimp on connnectors (of course you solder the center 
  pin)
  are
  probably the best and most replicable connections made.  We did a lot 
  of
  government/military work over the years and it was required to use 
  crimp
  type connectors on flexible cables.  They determined that it was easier
 to
  inspect and was more reliably done.  When you have someone using
  clamp/solder connectors, everyone is different.
 
  Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
  K2/100 SN 3075
  http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
 
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  Hello All,
  I would NEVER use crimp for any thing to do with duplex. Like a
 repeater,
  They will work OK (crimp) for test cables and the crimp connector is
  easier
  to install but you can not beat a good solder on clamp connector!
  73 Russ, W3CH
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:05 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] connectors
 
 
 
  I'm going to be making up some jumpers for test leads and repeater
  interconnects with RG-400 using BNC and N connectors.  I'm wondering
  what
  folks have had best results with: crimp style or clamp style
 connectors.
  What is more appropriate for this type of cable?  Is one style more
  reliable
  or easier to assemble?  Thanks.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Joe

Wrong Quintron Company..

--- Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.quintron.com
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] connectors

2005-01-12 Thread Chuck Kelsey

I just ordered some replacement duplexer harnesses a few weeks ago directly 
from TX/RX and they were crimp style.

Chuck
WB2EDV



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 NOT True. Mary Brown of TX/RX will tell you that is why they are changing
 from Crimp to solder on for all there inter connect cables. Lots of the
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread Randy Elliott

Yes it is for monitor weather alerts in my area east of Toronto but I 
need to detect the 1050 tone and convert that to a logic level to input 
to my controller.

Randy
On 12-Jan-05, at 5:24 PM, mch wrote:


 He didn't say it was for a weather alert. Maybe he has another
 application, but a 1050 Hz decoder is a 1050 Hz decoder.

 BTW, Mike, thanks for the info on the 12-251 SAME weatheradio. I picked
 up two of them. They are getting really hard to find. $17.97 each.

 Joe M.

 JOHN MACKEY wrote:

 That is a real pain!!

 The old system using 1050 hz decoding goes off weekly on tests, plus 
 will go
 off even if the problem is 3 counties away  of no effect to your 
 area.

 Stick with SAME decoding.

 -- Original Message --
 Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:14 PM CST
 From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Just pick up an older NOAA alert receiver for a few bucks. They have 
 a
 1050 Hz tone decoder circuit built in. It's probably cheaper than 
 making
 a decoder yourself.

 Joe M.

 Randy Elliott wrote:

 Greeting to the group

 I need to decode a single frequency (1050 hz) and output a logic 
 level
 + or - doesn't matter. I know this sounds really simple but I guess 
 I'm
 stupid today.
 I've tried an ne567 PLL and can't even get it to work. (could be bad
 chip though, just dug it out of my junk box)
 Anyone have any circuits floating around in your archives that 
 could do
 what I'm looking for?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread Joe Montierth

There is probably no easier and cheaper way to do it
than a 567 chip. This will give you a logic low, or
pull to ground when it decodes. If you are having a
hard time making it work, double check your circuit
layout, make sure the device is good, etc. The 567 is
easy to align and fun to play with, was kind of the
standard touch tone decoder back in the 70's.

Joe

--- Randy Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Yes it is for monitor weather alerts in my area east
 of Toronto but I 
 need to detect the 1050 tone and convert that to a
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 to my controller.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio




randy
i have a nln6568 single tone deocder from a motorola alert monitor it is adjustable probably do 1050 easy. i think i have a print for the thing as well $15 includes postage
mdm ted
Randy Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes it is for monitor weather alerts in my area east of Toronto but I need to detect the 1050 tone and convert that to a logic level to input to my controller.RandyOn 12-Jan-05, at 5:24 PM, mch wrote: He didn't say it was for a weather alert. Maybe he has another application, but a 1050 Hz decoder is a 1050 Hz decoder. BTW, Mike, thanks for the info on the 12-251 SAME weatheradio. I picked up two of them. They are getting really hard to find. $17.97 each. Joe M. JOHN MACKEY wrote: That is a real pain!! The old system using 1050 hz decoding goes off weekly on tests, plus  will go off even if the problem is 3 counties away  of no effect to your  area. Stick with SAME
 decoding. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:20:14 PM CST From: mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just pick up an older NOAA alert receiver for a few bucks. They have  a 1050 Hz tone decoder circuit built in. It's probably cheaper than  making a decoder yourself. Joe M. Randy Elliott wrote: Greeting to the group I need to decode a single frequency (1050 hz) and output a logic  level + or - doesn't matter. I know this sounds really simple but I guess  I'm stupid today. I've tried an ne567 PLL and can't even get it to work. (could be bad chip though, just dug it out of my junk
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] simple tone decoder

2005-01-12 Thread Randy Elliott

Thanks again Joe.

Randy
On 12-Jan-05, at 6:53 PM, Joe Montierth wrote:


 There is probably no easier and cheaper way to do it
 than a 567 chip. This will give you a logic low, or
 pull to ground when it decodes. If you are having a
 hard time making it work, double check your circuit
 layout, make sure the device is good, etc. The 567 is
 easy to align and fun to play with, was kind of the
 standard touch tone decoder back in the 70's.

 Joe

 --- Randy Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes it is for monitor weather alerts in my area east
 of Toronto but I
 need to detect the 1050 tone and convert that to a
 logic level to input
 to my controller.

 Randy


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