RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Depending on the colors of the lights, they may also be legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Did you also note what looked to me to be a flashing lite on the left rear deck behind the deck speaker? I looked for one on the driver's side, but couldn't positively make out that there was a light there. Looks to me like Jerry is in deep doo doo... Mike Eric wrote: Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
If you are a ham, K band is a shared allocation and covered under Part 97 (per Riley) If you are not a ham, it is covered under Part 90 and if you already are licensed under Part 90, that license covers it. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Otterson Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
GROL does not provide any authorization to test drive radar. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... It's been said before that Jerry runs a communications shop; don't most shops own a repeater or three and have Part 90 license? Perhaps he was out for a test drive that day to test the radar unit under his GROL -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Maybe 'having it' is ok, but using it is not legal. Maybe he thinks he is covered by being a licensed ham Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Kevin please tell me more. Diagrams etc 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin King To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 2:45 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of SteveSent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:40 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Hi Iam still after a 6mtr heliax duplexer. Iam in Liverpool UK So if any can or knows somebody who could make one, please email me direct. I have been told that the heliax ones can be troublesome but I cant afford 1200 UKP for a commercialy made one. 73 Steve M1SWB No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/55 - Release Date: 21/07/05 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? It just seems to me that the benefits did not weigh out well against the trouble he got in. It's legal (with the proper permits) to carry a handgun into a crowded mall. But if you start taking it out and pointing it at people, even if it is unloaded, your actions will be perceived by others as dangerous, and the authorities will likely arrest you. It's not what you posses that matters, it's what you do with your possessions that do... Mike Fred Fitte wrote: For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
At 05:38 AM 7/22/2005, Mike Pugh wrote: But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, Isn't that an oxymoron? and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? Because it amuses me to do so. Do I need any other reason to do anything that is legal and within my rights? I'd better not! It just seems to me that the benefits did not weigh out well against the trouble he got in. It's legal (with the proper permits) to carry a handgun into a crowded mall. But if you start taking it out and pointing it at people, even if it is unloaded, your actions will be perceived by others as dangerous, and the authorities will likely arrest you. That's not behavior that's covered under your concealed carry permit. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a copcar' due to ham antennas
Mike what is the link again to the pic of the car 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a copcar' due to ham antennas But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? It just seems to me that the benefits did not weigh out well against the trouble he got in. It's legal (with the proper permits) to carry a handgun into a crowded mall. But if you start taking it out and pointing it at people, even if it is unloaded, your actions will be perceived by others as dangerous, and the authorities will likely arrest you. It's not what you posses that matters, it's what you do with your possessions that do... Mike Fred Fitte wrote: For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/55 - Release Date: 21/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Mike, I am a retired LE office. If it is such a big deal, then there should be a statute that prohibits its use In a motor vehicle. I may not care for a lot Of things people do, but they should not get in trouble for it. We have a process in the US for dealing with such issues. If I do not like the color of your car or anything else about you, why then should you have an expectation of getting in trouble for that? Possessing radar is not why this gent was arrested. He was arrested for what I could see as a very vague law subject to interpretation. I happen to drive a stock black Ford Explorer with tinted glass (Factory Legal) with three AS broadband antennas in the roof, Should I get in trouble for impersonating a Secret Service Agent? Would not think so. Intent is something that is typically establish after the arrest in a court of law. Regards, Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? It just seems to me that the benefits did not weigh out well against the trouble he got in. It's legal (with the proper permits) to carry a handgun into a crowded mall. But if you start taking it out and pointing it at people, even if it is unloaded, your actions will be perceived by others as dangerous, and the authorities will likely arrest you. It's not what you posses that matters, it's what you do with your possessions that do... Mike Fred Fitte wrote: For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Using it is absolutely legal. As long as it is on the ham bands or one has a Part 90 license! Per the FCC, in writing! -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of motarolla_doctor Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:27 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Maybe 'having it' is ok, but using it is not legal. Maybe he thinks he is covered by being a licensed ham Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question
Has anyone installed an after market repeater controller in a TKR 820 repeater? If so, which one works for you ? Thanks, Fred YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Mike, How many people in this world lack common sense! A lot. We dont arrest for that, nor does the lack of common sense provide for 'probable cause to make an arrest. Why should anyone get in trouble for a lack of common sense. Laws are enacted to hopefully (bit always don't) eliminate that subjective desire to get someone in trouble. What is common sense to one, may be totally missing from another person. It is illegal, at least in NY, to take any hand gun out and start pointing it at people. Totally different issue than running radar in a personal car. It is not illegal to run radar. AS I mentioned before, if there are those who feel individuals should get in trouble for running radar, then there should be a law that states such. I have no problem with that. Regards, Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? It just seems to me that the benefits did not weigh out well against the trouble he got in. It's legal (with the proper permits) to carry a handgun into a crowded mall. But if you start taking it out and pointing it at people, even if it is unloaded, your actions will be perceived by others as dangerous, and the authorities will likely arrest you. It's not what you posses that matters, it's what you do with your possessions that do... Mike Fred Fitte wrote: For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Maybe 'having it' is ok, but using it is not legal. Maybe he thinks he is covered by being a licensed ham Sorry, but if it transmits in the amateur authorized portion of the microwave band, it IS legal. Just because it may set off a nearby radar detector doesn't make it illegal, because the radar detector is a RECEIVER that is supposed to pick up microwave signals.(...and it's not necessary to have a license for a receiver, except for those states that make it illegal to specifically use a radar detector in a vehicle for the purpose of avoiding getting caught speeding). And radar detectors, especially the cheaper ones, are fairly broadbanded, so they will trip on signals that aren't necessarily true radar signals. I have read of some being set off by harmonics from a nearby amateur 440 MHz or 900 MHz transmitter. Regardless of what the vehicle LOOKED like, the focus of the legal situation is going to be whether or not the person was deliberately attempting to look or act like law enforcement, something none of us can determine by looking at a picture. Kenneth Buley Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Could be O-T,MCX 1000 to dispose
hi,,humm it could be O-T , OI ahve an MCX 1000 VHF 54 channell to sell working good send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks to the moderator to let me pass!!! Make an offer! Gervais 73/s Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question
I have installed the Arcom and the Link-Com and they both work well with the Kenwood repeater. I do thank that the Arcom sounds a bit better on the Kenwood repeaters my self. That mite just be taste or I like the sound of the Arcom better. There is a cheat sheet on how to hook up a controller to the Kenwood if you need it I can scan it in and send it to you direct. Please send your e-mail address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Fred Fitte To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:21 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question Has anyone installed an after market repeater controller in a TKR 820 repeater? If so, which one works for you ? Thanks, Fred YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
At 01:48 AM 7/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers -Between the above comment and your signature, I'm thinking you had a bad experience with HS? Either that or you're a Michael Moore fan? Ken (sorry, I've never done well with hyperbolic rhetoric) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
Years ago, I worked for local county radio shop ... (ok I was the county radio shop for those who remember.) The various fire departments in the county wanted to change to a dispatch frequency so, after getting licensed et al, a couple of the fire departments asked me to assist changing frequencies on all the pagers. I called International and Jan and obtained prices. Then I met with the department chiefs describing Internationl is expensive but the crystals are stable ... vs ... Jan is cheap but you'll pay for it later as the stability is poor to none at all. The two fire departments chose International Crystal. Over the next few years, the crystals purchased from International Crystal - were very frequency stable and seldom needed adjustment. One other much larger fire department chose Jan Crystals and had the city hired radio shop change the crystals ... not involving me. Over the next few years, their pagers were reportedly in the radio shop frequently for readjustment. Hope the above assists you in making your decision. Neil McKie - WA6KLA Paul Guello wrote: I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question
Yes, many times. Oregon Repeater Linking Group Mike Mullarkey 6539 E Street Springfield, OR 97478 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.orlg.org -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Stafford Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:16 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question
Fred Fitte wrote: Has anyone installed an after market repeater controller in a TKR 820 repeater? If so, which one works for you ? Thanks, Fred Just about any controller should work well with an 820. Everything you need is on the 15-pin molex on the back-well, I've seen a few that COS needed a mod to bring it out. Been awhile... Anyway, I've plugged in everything from a 5K to various tone panels to LTR panels, all with good success. Haven't touched one in about 7-8 yrs though. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Mike Pugh wrote: But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike But how can someone be arrested if they didn't do anything illegal If that's why the guy was given a ticket, the cop should be arrested, and taken off the road. Now, again, if the guy tried to pull someone over, he needs to go to jail for a lng time. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
JUST an observation, but isn't this thread a bit off topic from building amateur radio repeater systems? .Maybe we should all get back to business before a flame war starts. Lance - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas At 01:48 AM 7/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers -Between the above comment and your signature, I'm thinking you had a bad experience with HS? Either that or you're a Michael Moore fan? Ken (sorry, I've never done well with hyperbolic rhetoric) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
BRAVOMy whole point exactly. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Mike Pugh wrote: But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike But how can someone be arrested if they didn't do anything illegal If that's why the guy was given a ticket, the cop should be arrested, and taken off the road. Now, again, if the guy tried to pull someone over, he needs to go to jail for a lng time. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Use a band pass filter between pass-reject duplexer and antenna?
Ken Arck wrote: At 05:54 PM 7/21/2005 -0700, you wrote: I would not put a BP cavity between the duplexer and the antenna, simply because such a cavity would diminish the function of the duplexer. ---Gotta disagree with you here, Eric. Depending on the underlying problem, the addition of a single BP cavity can easily DRAMATICALLY improve the amount of isolation in a full duplex circuit. Maybe he's using a notch only type duplexer (very common I'm afraid, because of price). Maybe his xmtr makes lots of grass. I've run into this more times than I can count and a single BP cavity makes a world of difference. Preamp or no preamp in some cases. Ken Sorry, Ken-look at that again. One doesn't normally put a cavity between the output of the duplexer and the antennait would have to be broad enough to pass both tx and rx. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Lance You are correct. My apologies to Kevin and those on the reflector. We've beat this subject to death! Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Captainlance Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas JUST an observation, but isn't this thread a bit off topic from building amateur radio repeater systems? .Maybe we should all get back to business before a flame war starts. Lance - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas At 01:48 AM 7/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers -Between the above comment and your signature, I'm thinking you had a bad experience with HS? Either that or you're a Michael Moore fan? Ken (sorry, I've never done well with hyperbolic rhetoric) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Dave VanHorn wrote: At 05:38 AM 7/22/2005, Mike Pugh wrote: But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, Isn't that an oxymoron? Right. 'Getting into trouble' simply for possessing something that is perfectly legal is just plain wrong, and anyone who creates such trouble must be dealt with. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: New to GMRS Repeaters
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, You need to get a license, $75 for 5 years. Also download part 95, regs for GMRS, from www.fcc.gov; about 20-30 pages. They follow pretty much the old CB rules. Fee is now $80.00 Base stations are restricted to 20 ft above structure and 25 watts ERP, but repeater can go as high as they like and run 50 watts out of the tx, not ERP. To qualify as a SMALL BASE STATION, the height limitation applies and they can transmit with no more than 5W ERP...regular base stations (and repeaters) are limited to 50W power output (not ERP) and no height restrictions (other limitations apply as well such as frequency stability). balance of post snipped (moderators...I know rules discussions are not allowed, however, the original poster needs to know what he can and can't do in order to make responsible equipment purchase/installation decisions) 73 Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Likewise, well said! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Fred Fitte wrote: Mike, I am a retired LE office. If it is such a big deal, then there should be a statute that prohibits its use In a motor vehicle. I may not care for a lot Of things people do, but they should not get in trouble for it. We have a process in the US for dealing with such issues. If I do not like the color of your car or anything else about you, why then should you have an expectation of getting in trouble for that? Possessing radar is not why this gent was arrested. He was arrested for what I could see as a very vague law subject to interpretation. I happen to drive a stock black Ford Explorer with tinted glass (Factory Legal) with three AS broadband antennas in the roof, Should I get in trouble for impersonating a Secret Service Agent? Would not think so. Intent is something that is typically establish after the arrest in a court of law. Regards, Fred Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Neal Newman wrote: Yeah Right USDHS is the First step to being American Nazis I Vant to see your papers you need to carry your birth certificate or passport upstate NY without Leaving the state. I know it happened to me. First thing Customs needs to do is to get rid of the Mexican looking officers out of NYS and back on the Mexican Border where they can stop their reletives. USDHS what a Joke. Kind of reminds Me of a Cop who sees a mugging on a train platform and does nothing to Help because hes not required to.. His job is To protect transit property not the public. http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/21/patriot.act/index.html Freedom? What freedom? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving acop car' due to ham antennas
Not anymore ... as I remember somewhere in Part 90, if a police department is already licensed under a part 90 frequency for law enforcement necessity, the use of a radar unit permitted without a separate license for it. At the time, it seemed to me very few law enforcement agencies recognized the requirement for a license for their Radar unit - therefore never got one. I heard of one incident where a knowledgable person challenged the speeding ticket he got because the police agency involved was using an unlicensed radar unit. Went through all of this when I worked as one of the county government radio shops. Neil - WA6KLA Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Not For nothing. I once owned a Crown Vic Bought it from a police auction complete with the Bolted Transmission. It was an old PA state Police chase car can you say Fast YEP. But the speed limit is Only 65. when I lived in NY I was involved in law enforcement. also my local OEM. I had at least. 13 antennas on my car I owned and still own My MPH-K55 Radar unit. soon after I left the job and moved to NJ the car was parked in a Lot where a tractor trailer could not make a Turn and decided to drive Over the car Crushing it. wish I had a picture. I bought a van whos speedometer was not working. SO I put My Calibrated K-55 on thedash. I had 6 antennas on this van. I was only questioned about the radar on the dash twice in 6 years Both times during stops at registration check points setup by town cops. they could not find in the NJ VTL where it would be illegal to use it. Second. since It was a Calibrated unit( with certifications on Unit and Tuning Forks) I used it as My accurate speedometer.. Third. The GROL allows you to service and Test Radar and other transmitters.. so I cannot see why a test drive would not be considered Legal.. the radio shops do it all the time in NY. Last My unit is on 10.525 Take it From there The van has since died these days I ride a harley and the unit wont fit on the bike. But I still keep the calibration upto date Yearly.and I use the unit to Clock the speed of My Birds( Im a Falconer) In a stoop. Very cool to demo to show how fast the Birds really going.. Neal Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Maybe 'having it' is ok, but using it is not legal. Maybe he thinks he is covered by being a licensed ham Sorry, but if it transmits in the amateur authorized portion of the microwave band, it IS legal. Just because it "may" set off a nearby radar detector doesn't make it illegal, because the radar detector is a RECEIVER that is supposed to pick up microwave signals.(...and it's not necessary to have a license for a receiver, except for those states that make it illegal to specifically use a radar detector in a vehicle for the purpose of avoiding getting caught speeding). And radar detectors, especially the cheaper ones, are fairly broadbanded, so they will trip on signals that aren't necessarily true radar signals. I have read of some being set off by harmonics from a nearby amateur 440 MHz or 900 MHz transmitter. Regardless of what the vehicle LOOKED like, the focus of the legal situation is going to be whether or not the person was deliberately attempting to look or act like law enforcement, something none of us can determine by looking at a picture. Kenneth Buley Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Operator BC-6 Bullitt County ARES/RACES Coordinator KY4DES "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Ken That's an Understatement.. If we ever Meet boy have I got a True story to tell you. Its one thing to have border patrol at a border. Its another thing to have border patrol over 100 miles south of the border in the middle of nowhere. and stranding a Taxpayer in the middle of nowhere due to an error on there behalf Never leaving the Country or state... Neal Ken Arck wrote: I'm thinking you had a bad experience with HS? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question
Fred, I currently have a CAT-300 connected to my TKR-820. Works like a dream! Mark N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Fred Fitte Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:21 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR 820 Question Has anyone installed an after market repeater controller in a TKR 820 repeater? If so, which one works for you ? Thanks, Fred YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving acop car' due to ham antennas
Neil McKie wrote: actually at the Time the FCC had a list of all Type accepted Radar units for Police use. and the Radar that was used was not on the list as Type accepted.. theirfore the ticket had to be dismissed. I also challanged a ticket like that and won.( this was over 20+ years ago) I heard of one incident where a knowledgable person challenged the speeding ticket he got because the police agency involved was using an unlicensed radar unit. Went through all of this when I worked as one of the county government radio shops. Neil - WA6KLA Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop
--- Everyone wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Hasn't this subject been beaten to death by now? Tom WA8PYR __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike Jim B. wrote: Mike Pugh wrote: But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike But how can someone be arrested if they didn't do anything illegal If that's why the guy was given a ticket, the cop should be arrested, and taken off the road. Now, again, if the guy tried to pull someone over, he needs to go to jail for a lng time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
Mike Pugh wrote: Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike No-only that he THOUGHT he did. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF into aircraft
Mike, you may be onto something that I gave no thought to what so ever. Indeed, my problems have since started back in June of this year. And it would take someone with far more knowledge than I have, but a cell tower did go up about 6 miles from the house and was turned on not to long back. I would have to check and see what the turn on date was. I was told by users of the system they could hear other voices, I passed it off as it being their own voice because of the audio delay board and at times I can hear my voice back on my 706 which is very fast to unkey. Is it possible that this cell site might have something to do with it. Because the problem is intermittant, sometimes it is there, and sometimes it is not. The tower is a Verizon tower that went on an existing tower that belongs to a gas company of some sort. I have not had any additional reports from the FAA, but I know I can go a few miles from the house and hear the interference on my 706 in the car, as well as my Kenwood TM-D700 radio. Hmmm, anyone got any comments about this. Mathew Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, We had issues with the difference of 2 cell freqs mixing with our output, and landing directly on our input. When you un-keyed, it would chase it's own tail something fierce. Many times you could actually hear the cell conversation very clearly, and they were not always "G-rated" conversations!! Running a split tone system helped a bunch. Everytime the cell-co's add something to the tower, we have trouble. Cingular in particular... seems we were left out of their intermod studies.. Lately we have been getting the local sherriff's tactical frequency on the second VHF machine. It is located on a water tank adjacent to the main site... Not cool when the sherriff calls and wants to know why we are re-broadcasting his tac-freq... We have a close relationship with the SO, and the 911 center.. so they monitor our traffic at the dispatch center. This probably won't help your situation... but it demonstrates how something can wind-up on your inputdue tono fault of your own. Good luck in finding the answer.. Mike K5JMP -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mathew QuaifeSent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:31 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF into aircraft I'm starting to think it is either something coming in or the Vocom Amp that is the culprit, but something is funny. I know my Yaesu FT7736R is a very clean transmitter, and at two watts output, really hard for it to send spurs out. I'm thinking it might be something that is coming in on the receiever at the same time the transmitter is transmitting. I am going to feed the repeater into a dummy load today and see if the spurs are still there. If they are not, then I can only believe something is getting in with the receiver, or there is a inbalance in the antenna system that is causing the problem. There was indeed a problem with the Maggorie transmitter, but don't think it was the whole problem. I have used Jan xtals for many of years, and this is the first one the was off. They all have their problems. I bought one from International that was put in the wrong casing, they did not want to fix the problem, so I had to solder it to a old large xtal caseing. Oh well, I'm sure they will fix the problem for me. Mathew Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, As far as FAA your repeater with antenna on the ground can easily be heard from an aircraft at even 2000 ft. We try to get repeaters high to be able to work low mobiles. We should start insisting on the mobiles being high, hi. Never use JAN crystals in my option. Have tried them and almost all gave problems...from not working to way off freq to being way off freq 6 months down the road to dying 6 months out. I spend the extra money and save money by using International or Bomar. International is in some kind of screwed up situation, think due to them buying out Sentry, with 6 + weeks delievery. Bomar cost more, but both make an excellent crystal. For a pair of crystals including shipping Bomar $60, International $47, Jan $200 after the overhead. Bomar does have a $50 min. 73, ron, n9ee/r __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
I joined this group under the apparently MISTAKEN impression that is was a group of REPEATER BUILDERS! I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLICE WANNABES! Dennis KG4RUL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] What is available for IRLP equipement
I'm looking for information on IRLP and Echolink connection devices. What is good, what works and what does not? How difficult is it to get them set up and running? Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
At 11:12 AM 7/22/2005, Jim B. wrote: Mike Pugh wrote: Whether he DID or DID NOT do anything illegal is up to the courts to decide. Apparently, one can infer from the arresting officer's actions that the officer had probable cause to arrest him based on what he observed Mike No-only that he THOUGHT he did. Innocent till proven guilty. A frequently devalued concept lately. But I would agree, it seems that the case is not as clear as it seemed initially, and it will probably come down to what this guy was doing at the time. But, the law, as read, is a real piece of silliness, that's for sure. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
ditto; and he's in North Carolina famous in song and story for well kraeusened drivers please lets move on with life.Dennis Zabawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this group under the apparently MISTAKEN impression that iswas a group of REPEATER BUILDERS!I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLICE WANNABES!Dennis KG4RULYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Just solder them together. using some electrical tape to start, create some tack solder joints, then go around the circumfrince with a high power iron and make a bead. Use oven mitts unless your hands have heat resistive qualitys that NASA would be proud of. On 7/22/05, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
Yeah, Take this crap down to SSB where it belongs. On 7/22/05, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ditto; and he's in North Carolina famous in song and story for well kraeusened drivers please lets move on with life. Dennis Zabawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this group under the apparently MISTAKEN impression that is was a group of REPEATER BUILDERS! I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLICE WANNABES! Dennis KG4RUL Yahoo! Groups Links Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Standard coffee cans solder together pretty easily because of the tin plating they usually used, provided you have a soldering iron with a good sized copper tip. A few of them started being plastic coated and these didn't solder well at all. Jeff Condit - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
A small torch and solder works great. Just like soldering copper pipe. Vincent N6OA/2 - Original Message - From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Just solder them together. using some electrical tape to start, create some tack solder joints, then go around the circumfrince with a high power iron and make a bead. Use oven mitts unless your hands have heat resistive qualitys that NASA would be proud of. On 7/22/05, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Fw: ICM Customer Service
Speaking of ICM: This is a recent message I received. Just wanted to pass it along to the group. Seems some changes have been made. Vincent N6OA/2 - Original Message - From: Sara Gore To: 'vmckever' Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: RE: ICM Customer Service If your order is not more that 1 year old send the crystals to ICM, 10 N Lee, OKC, OK 73102 and we will test the crystal if it does not meet specifications we will send you a new crystal. Thanks Sara Gore Sales Associate International Crystal MFG -Original Message-From: vmckever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:43 PMTo: Sara GoreSubject: ICM Customer Service Hello, I bought a pair of crystals a year or so ago and the receive crystal has gone way off frequency. I can't adjust it back on channel. How do I get it fixed? Thanks Vincent A. McKever YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Jeff to get back to my origional question, how would you use the tins to make a 6mtr duplexer, considering commercial ones are over 5ft long 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Condit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Standard coffee cans solder together pretty easily because of the tin plating they usually used, provided you have a soldering iron with a good sized copper tip. A few of them started being plastic coated and these didn't solder well at all. Jeff Condit - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.3/56 - Release Date: 22/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Use a band pass filter between pass-reject duplexer and antenna?
At 10:20 AM 7/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: Sorry, Ken-look at that again. One doesn't normally put a cavity between the output of the duplexer and the antennait would have to be broad enough to pass both tx and rx. ---Ooops! Didn't catch the between duplexer and antenna part (that's what I get for posting after serving jury duty!). You (and Eric) are absolutely correct! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Jeff Condit wrote: Standard coffee cans solder together pretty easily because of the tin plating they usually used, provided you have a soldering iron with a good sized copper tip. A few of them started being plastic coated and these didn't solder well at all. Is there an observed effect on the quality of the duplexer from the surface discontinuties? Would it be worth copper plating? Can it be copper plated? I sense that there will soon be no coffee cans left in my town. As it is, we currently buy Folgers in large plastic jugs 10 in diameter. -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
At 01:21 PM 7/22/2005, Kris Kirby wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Jeff Condit wrote: Standard coffee cans solder together pretty easily because of the tin plating they usually used, provided you have a soldering iron with a good sized copper tip. A few of them started being plastic coated and these didn't solder well at all. Is there an observed effect on the quality of the duplexer from the surface discontinuties? Would it be worth copper plating? Can it be copper plated? I'd be very worried about stability, given the overall cheesiness of the materials. Copper pipe is probably workable, though expensive. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Use a band pass filter between pass-reject duplexer and antenna?
Ken Arck wrote: At 10:20 AM 7/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: Sorry, Ken-look at that again. One doesn't normally put a cavity between the output of the duplexer and the antennait would have to be broad enough to pass both tx and rx. ---Ooops! Didn't catch the between duplexer and antenna part (that's what I get for posting after serving jury duty!). LOL! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Dave VanHorn wrote: Copper pipe is probably workable, though expensive. onlinemetals.com -- 1' brass pipe, 6 diameter... $303! I'm starting to think that copper sheet rolled into a cylinder would be a better idea. a 7 diameter duplexer is 22 in circumference. a 24 x 48 piece of copper sheet would yield 7 duplexers at 440 MHz. At 18 GA, the width of the material is 0.048. At 1MHz, the skin depth is 0.0026 in, and decreases with frequency. 0.0135 is the smallest size that onlinemetals.com stocks (which is 28 GA) and costs $71.15 in a 36 x 48 sheet. Suddenly that $1K price tag on the used 6m duplexer doesn't look so bad. -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving acop car' due to ham antennas
There was a similar case in PA. They were licensed for X units, and were using X+? at the time. Since it was impossible to tell which ones were the licensed ones and which were not, the ticket was thrown out. Joe M. Neil McKie wrote: Not anymore ... as I remember somewhere in Part 90, if a police department is already licensed under a part 90 frequency for law enforcement necessity, the use of a radar unit permitted without a separate license for it. At the time, it seemed to me very few law enforcement agencies recognized the requirement for a license for their Radar unit - therefore never got one. I heard of one incident where a knowledgable person challenged the speeding ticket he got because the police agency involved was using an unlicensed radar unit. Went through all of this when I worked as one of the county government radio shops. Neil - WA6KLA Jeff Otterson wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... Jeff At 08:46 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas
motarolla_doctor wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that police radar was licensed under Part 90... This IS correct, radar uses a transmitter and ALL transmitters are required to be licensed. I am sure he does not have a license. It was stated he has a commercial radio shop. Most radio shops have Part 90 licenses. Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred Maybe 'having it' is ok, but using it is not legal. Maybe he thinks he is covered by being a licensed ham If it's in the band that is shared by PS and hams, it DOES cover it! Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Use a band pass filter between pass-reject duplexer and antenna?
DCI Makes filters for 2m/220/440 there bandwith is ONLY the amateur band. Pre-tuned they work very well for intermod rejection while passing both the TX/RX frequencies. Andy KC2GOW Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Yeah, we made a 6 meter cavity out of some dryer ventalation hose. It had a beautiful notch right where it should be, until you walked around the room. On 7/22/05, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Dave VanHorn wrote: Copper pipe is probably workable, though expensive. onlinemetals.com -- 1' brass pipe, 6 diameter... $303! I'm starting to think that copper sheet rolled into a cylinder would be a better idea. a 7 diameter duplexer is 22 in circumference. a 24 x 48 piece of copper sheet would yield 7 duplexers at 440 MHz. At 18 GA, the width of the material is 0.048. At 1MHz, the skin depth is 0.0026 in, and decreases with frequency. 0.0135 is the smallest size that onlinemetals.com stocks (which is 28 GA) and costs $71.15 in a 36 x 48 sheet. Suddenly that $1K price tag on the used 6m duplexer doesn't look so bad. -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Kris at those prices yes $1000 for a 6mtr is fair, in UK money that is about £650... I know a chap in the UK who origionaly used heliax for a 6mtr duplexer, and due various things happening it was forever going off tune. In the end the repeater group saved up and bought a commercial Procom duplexer, and problems solved, no more rx desense 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Dave VanHorn wrote: Copper pipe is probably workable, though expensive. onlinemetals.com -- 1' brass pipe, 6 diameter... $303! I'm starting to think that copper sheet rolled into a cylinder would be a better idea. a 7 diameter duplexer is 22 in circumference. a 24 x 48 piece of copper sheet would yield 7 duplexers at 440 MHz. At 18 GA, the width of the material is 0.048. At 1MHz, the skin depth is 0.0026 in, and decreases with frequency. 0.0135 is the smallest size that onlinemetals.com stocks (which is 28 GA) and costs $71.15 in a 36 x 48 sheet. Suddenly that $1K price tag on the used 6m duplexer doesn't look so bad. -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.3/56 - Release Date: 22/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA MICOR receiver VHF
Thanks to all who reply to this thread !!! real pain only happens bring UP THE repeater ! Yet never keys up on it owen ? If it's just occasional it 's problem and that we have . They've been through all the steps before re- tune duplexers Wacom 4 CAN and Pre amp and the Micor radio? ANTHONY W4NCR Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Data sheet for a DB Products DB4087
Can anyone help me out with a Data Sheet for a DB4087? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Question Motorola Quantar VHF ?
Has anybody in this group play around with Motorola Quantar VHF Repeater Like it and the performance of it ?Regards ANTHONY W4NCR Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA MICOR receiver VHF
At 08:01 PM 7/22/2005 -, you wrote: Thanks to all who reply to this thread !!! real pain only happens bring UP THE repeater ! Yet never keys up on it owen ? ---Yep, sounds exactly like a mix that involves your own repeater's transmitter. Obviously, there's something else out there that, on an occasional basis, that is figuring into the equation. Now the hard part You need to do the math, based on your xmt and rcv freqs and a 3rd (or maybe even 4th and 5th) source of mixing freqs, that result in products on your receive frequency. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] WTB MITREK (UPPER UHF) T-64 or T-74
I need three high power Mitrek UHF radios to convert to repeater use. Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Fw: receiver
Subject: receiver on 2 meter band if the receiver is .30 or .35 do you think we could tell on the operation range on the receive? thanks john YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Ge Century 2
hi all i have 6 Ge Century 2 vhf here even with the ORIGINAL GE MANUAL if someone is interested let me know directly please i cannot garanti the condition of these radios ,i dont remember there condition but i am not use to keep scrap radio's. i would accept sme trade,for the moment i am looking for a programmable radio for my aprs needs 73/s gervais ve2ckn bbs:ve2rxy.homeip.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB MITREK (UPPER UHF) T-64 or T-74
Jeff, The PA in the high power UHF Mitreks won't last very long in high duty cycle repeater service. The power dividers are a weak spot in the PA design. The best Mitreks to use are the ones without power dividers. The T34 30W model is ideal as it can be run at 18-20W and don't require any additional cooling. The 50W T44 Mitreks run fine with additional forced air cooling at 30W. I use a 12V 24CFM blower and a duct with a fan controller. Steve WA6ZFT From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/22 Fri PM 05:14:46 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB MITREK (UPPER UHF) T-64 or T-74 I need three high power Mitrek UHF radios to convert to repeater use. Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: WTB MITREK (UPPER UHF) T-64 or T-74
Depending on the year built, the real source of problems in the UHF Mitrek and MSR 100/110 watt pa is the harmonic filter. The power divider and pa modules will fail after the harmonic filter fails. skipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, The PA in the high power UHF Mitreks won't last very long in high duty cycle repeater service. The power dividers are a weak spot in the PA design. The best Mitreks to use are the ones without power dividers. The T34 30W model is ideal as it can be run at 18-20W and don't require any additional cooling. The 50W T44 Mitreks run fine with additional forced air cooling at 30W. I use a 12V 24CFM blower and a duct with a fan controller. Steve WA6ZFT From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/22 Fri PM 05:14:46 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB MITREK (UPPER UHF) T-64 or T-74 I need three high power Mitrek UHF radios to convert to repeater use. Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Still after
Try sanding them where you plan to solder them first. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just solder them together. using some electrical tape to start, create some tack solder joints, then go around the circumfrince with a high power iron and make a bead. Use oven mitts unless your hands have heat resistive qualitys that NASA would be proud of. On 7/22/05, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: ICM Customer Service
What happened to the lifetime warranty? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vmckever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of ICM: This is a recent message I received. Just wanted to pass it along to the group. Seems some changes have been made. Vincent N6OA/2 - Original Message - From: Sara Gore To: 'vmckever' Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: RE: ICM Customer Service If your order is not more that 1 year old send the crystals to ICM, 10 N Lee, OKC, OK 73102 and we will test the crystal if it does not meet specifications we will send you a new crystal. Thanks Sara Gore Sales Associate International Crystal MFG -Original Message- From: vmckever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:43 PM To: Sara Gore Subject: ICM Customer Service Hello, I bought a pair of crystals a year or so ago and the receive crystal has gone way off frequency. I can't adjust it back on channel. How do I get it fixed? Thanks Vincent A. McKever Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question Motorola Quantar VHF ?
Yep, love it they work great, and I've got mine up and working on APCO 25 digitalfor those few that have newerdigital capable radios.ANTHONY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody in this group play around with Motorola Quantar VHF Repeater Like it and the performance of it ? Regards ANTHONY W4NCR Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question Motorola Quantar VHF ?
I got 1 on vhf and 7 on uhf trunking with no problems at all.. love them also.. www.kf4tnp.com Brent - Original Message - From: T.J. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question Motorola Quantar VHF ? Yep, love it they work great, and I've got mine up and working on APCO 25 digitalfor those few that have newerdigital capable radios.ANTHONY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody in this group play around with Motorola Quantar VHF Repeater Like it and the performance of it ? Regards ANTHONY W4NCR Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: receiver
John, If I think that what you think is what I think you are thinking, do you mean to say. Will there be a noticeable difference in range between a receiver having a sensitivity of 0.30 as opposed to 0.35 uVolt? No you would not be able to tell the difference. 73, Tony VE3DWI From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: July 22, 2005 17:27 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: receiver Subject: receiver on 2 meter band if the receiver is .30 or .35 do you think we could tell on the operation range on the receive? thanks john YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] 6 mtr Duplexer
Steve Here is a link to a very interesting Heliax build 6 meter duplexer. There is a lot of information and good reading on the subject. http://www.dallas.net/%7Ejvpoll/dup6m/dup6m.html 73, Tony VE3DWI Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 6 meter duplexer construction
Maybe find an old DB 4048 and replace the 5 inch aluminum tubing.An area farmermight have a couple lengths of damaged 5 inch irrigation tubing laying around. Hack off somerequired lengths.You have the top and bottom caps from the DB 4048. Lengthen the pick up loops. Just a thought. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
