Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
I agree just have them replaced with the gas discharge type much better than the carbon --- Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont bother,upgrade to gas discharge,far better protection and from this century too! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc
I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial radios glued together as repeaters. Often it has been IC-221S or IC- 121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units. My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these rigs? I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with much information. Regards Jim WB8AZP Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
Joe The box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the A Box? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were four other lines connected to the box. Gran K6RIF At 18:36 8/18/2005, you wrote: There may be a gas discharge replacement for the unit that you have, but they might be difficult to find. I tossed the ones I had years ago. Your best bet is to change out the entire mounting to a newer design, scraping the carbons may have changed the spark gap. 73, Joe, K1ike Ex Bell head Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Telephone company demarks have the old carbon style lightning arresters. Any success repairing them? I know the new ones have a gas discharge design. The element has a couple of crimps that hold the carbon from falling out and the gap is insured by a plastic or ceramic holder. I have scraped the carbon surfaces and they now read open. Anyone been there with this? (in particular the repair aspect) I am sure I could stop enough telco trucks to get replacements. Gran K6RIF Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc
Jim; There is a factory option cable pigtail which an be added that will put most everything you could need on a external db25 connector... It can be ordered from an Icom dealer. You could build it but I suspect you would have more problems with the internal connector than is worth the trouble as the option cable is the $25-35 area as I recall. I am pretty sure there is one for most all the new mobiles... I think it is documented in the service manuals also. Doug KD8B At 09:53 AM 8/19/2005, you wrote: I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial radios glued together as repeaters. Often it has been IC-221S or IC- 121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units. My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these rigs? I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with much information. Regards Jim WB8AZP Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc
Jim, It's very easy as they are designed for those signals to be accessable, much like the Motorola radios. There is a cable, part OPC-617, that plugs inside the radio and brings those signals out to a female DB-9 connector. You have to cut a few traces in the radio depending on the options you need and the signals are then on the 9 pin connector, and they will still function as normal mobiles. Hope this helps. Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Kvochick Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:53 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial radios glued together as repeaters. Often it has been IC-221S or IC- 121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units. My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these rigs? I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with much information. Regards Jim WB8AZP Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
About four years ago I had an old box on my home for my Verizon North telephone service. It had the carbons inside from 1969 when the house was constructed. I started having noise on the lines and called Verizon. Told them they were bad and needed replaced. They sent a man out who changed the box to one of the new modern ones . No problem - no cost to me. The only thing was the guy was new and I had to help him do it properly he did not know what carbons were! Rich WA8DBW Richard D. Reesehttp://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com - Original Message - From: Gran Clark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks JoeThe box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the "A Box"? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were four other lines connected to the box.Gran K6RIF YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
Hey Dick!, You are an old goat!! I had to explain how tubes worked to someone the other day. Time sure flies. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---BeginMessage--- About four years ago I had an old box on my home for my Verizon North telephone service. It had the carbons inside from 1969 when the house was constructed. I started having noise on the lines and called Verizon. Told them they were bad and needed replaced. They sent a man out who changed the box to one of the new modern ones . No problem - no cost to me. The only thing was the guy was new and I had to help him do it properly he did not know what carbons were! Rich WA8DBW Richard D. Reesehttp://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com - Original Message - From: Gran Clark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks JoeThe box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the "A Box"? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were four other lines connected to the box.Gran K6RIF ---End Message---
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc
Hi Jim, Many Icom, Motorola, Kenwood... yadda, yaddd brand radios do the commercial mobile radio to repeater package. Most newer decent quality radios have an option for external interface connections. The factory back to back cables work. Some layouts don't do much more than a rude back to back radio. Some layouts have basic repeater controllers going all the way through to a full blown ham radio or commercial mutil function controller... multi sub tone, even trunking format. Understand that most mobile radios have small heat sinks, which get hot fast in full power in repeater service (even with a fan). The typical Motorola GR300 with two mobiles at 40 watts output will burn up if you lock to talk it as a full busy repeater. So, turn the the power output down (most often done in software) if you want to use it for long repeater talk times. There's a guy on Ebay selling everything Icom cheaper than most local Dealers can do for you. I'm sure his service is limited. Sort of the Ebay Wall Mart of Icom Radio sales. Another guy is selling basic back to back Motorola mobile radio cables for under $10 each. These units are cheap and quite fun to play with. Most Kenwood radios work with the kct flying lead radio cable option, the newer tk-7180/8180 radios have the connection on an already available rear mounted connector. I've done a number of repeaters and special configs using the older and newer radios. There's a group of hams out here using Amateur Radios back to back for repeaters. If they talk too long, the tx radio power amp gets hot and the radio (repeater power) goes away until it cools down and resets the protection circuit. Commercial radios often have most of the required external signals and controls for repeater operation. Sometimes a jumper or software switch might need to be set. As Doug mentions, sometimes it's an easy plug and play if you want to buy the cable. Sometimes you simply wire it yourself. cheers, skipp Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim; There is a factory option cable pigtail which an be added that will put most everything you could need on a external db25 connector... It can be ordered from an Icom dealer. You could build it but I suspect you would have more problems with the internal connector than is worth the trouble as the option cable is the $25-35 area as I recall. I am pretty sure there is one for most all the new mobiles... I think it is documented in the service manuals also. Doug KD8B At 09:53 AM 8/19/2005, you wrote: I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial radios glued together as repeaters. Often it has been IC-221S or IC- 121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units. My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these rigs? I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with much information. Regards Jim WB8AZP Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
At 08:52 AM 8/19/05, you wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Your problem is that the channel element is running all the time and someone has probably left a shield plate off. Or it came that way and he does not know it's missing. Maybe someone can take a photo of a station with all the shields in place and post it. In fact, that might make a good web page - especially if it listed all the part numbers. The basic Micor station can be configured as a base (with an antenna relay) or as a duplex base or as a repeater (both of which have no relay). The antenna relay output is a fairly robust switching transistor (an open collector output). The repeater-builder.com web site has a Micor page that has a bunch of conversion articles. One step in the basic mod jumpers the channel element enable pin to ground. An alternative mod uses the antenna relay output to key the channel element. This trick resolves situation you are seeing. Your fix? You will remove the jumper from the transmitter channel element enable pin to ground, and replace it with one that goes from the element to the antenna relay output. (I think it is on the station control card, but I forget which pin it is.) But look for a missing shield as well. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
That's interesting to know Mathew. We're in the process of putting a converted hi band VHF Micor on 220 and as it is set up now, the exciter is keyed. I would guess that it wouldn't be much of a delay anyway. The final stage of the exciter is keyed with keyed A- and I believe the xtal module is keyed ( I think, but I don't remember) as well. If I had that problem, I would hook up the key line again. In the bench test configuration, I do know that with the final stage unkeyed and the xtal module oscillating, we have about 7 mW at the output of the exciter. You probably could hear that a few miles. However, isn't the PA keyed and unkeyed? de WD7F John in Tucson - Original Message - From: n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff
Guys, If anyone has any 220 repeater equipment they would like to get rid of (sell/working) such as amplifiers, RX or TX stuff and things of that nature please contact me direct off list. I am in need of 220 gear for a repeater project. Thanks in advance. My email is kc2gow at yahoo dot com Andy KC2GOW Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [SPAM:*] Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, isthere another way
The transmitter Channel Elemend is grounded through Q8 on the Squelch Gate Board TLN4662A via Pin 3 on the edge connector. Just be certain Jumpers JU-5 and JU-6 are in place. The Q8 transistor is turned on by either a Keyed A+ (from Pin 6 on the edge connector) or Delayed Keyed A+ (from Pin 7 on the edge connector) signal. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: At 08:52 AM 8/19/05, you wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Your problem is that the channel element is running all the time and someone has probably left a shield plate off. Or it came that way and he does not know it's missing. Maybe someone can take a photo of a station with all the shields in place and post it. In fact, that might make a good web page - especially if it listed all the part numbers. The basic Micor station can be configured as a base (with an antenna relay) or as a duplex base or as a repeater (both of which have no relay). The antenna relay output is a fairly robust switching transistor (an open collector output). The repeater-builder.com web site has a Micor page that has a bunch of conversion articles. One step in the basic mod jumpers the channel element enable pin to ground. An alternative mod uses the antenna relay output to key the channel element. This trick resolves situation you are seeing. Your fix? You will remove the jumper from the transmitter channel element enable pin to ground, and replace it with one that goes from the element to the antenna relay output. (I think it is on the station control card, but I forget which pin it is.) But look for a missing shield as well. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater
Does anyone have the step by step on hooking up two rangers for repeater use? Also, can you recommend a controller! I am also looking for the service manual for the VHF and the UHF version. Randy YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater
RANGRs are only like 5% TX duty cycle. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
I really don't know, it's been almost 20 years since I worked for a wireline company. The best thing is to call telephone repair and ask them. Joe Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe The box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the A Box? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were four other lines connected to the box. Gran K6RIF At 18:36 8/18/2005, you wrote: There may be a gas discharge replacement for the unit that you have, but they might be difficult to find. I tossed the ones I had years ago. Your best bet is to change out the entire mounting to a newer design, scraping the carbons may have changed the spark gap. 73, Joe, K1ike Ex Bell head Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Telephone company demarks have the old carbon style lightning arresters. Any success repairing them? I know the new ones have a gas discharge design. The element has a couple of crimps that hold the carbon from falling out and the gap is insured by a plastic or ceramic holder. I have scraped the carbon surfaces and they now read open. Anyone been there with this? (in particular the repair aspect) I am sure I could stop enough telco trucks to get replacements. Gran K6RIF Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
I guess he wouldn't know what a heat coil is, either. Joe Richard D. Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing was the guy was new and I had to help him do it properly he did not know what carbons were! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater
Rangers are not a particularly good choice for repeater configuration due to the very wide front end and the low transmit duty cycle. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: R. K. Brumback To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater Does anyone have the step by step on hooking up two rangers for repeater use? Also, can you recommend a controller! I am also looking for the service manual for the VHF and the UHF version. Randy --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
Joe, I'm a current 'Bell Head' so I can probably offer up some thoughts. Telephone lingo varies greatly from one company to the next and from one region to another. In Nebraska an 'A' Box is actually a three position wooden box that's used to sit on while splicing cable. It'smost commonlyknown as a 'butt box' for obvious reasons. You might be thinking of the green or light beige metal box that sits in your back yard or on your property line that houses telephone cable and the small 'drop' wire that runs to your home, business or tower. (Drop comes from the aerial days when the wire 'dropped' from the main cable pole run to the home.) We commonly callthe boxa 'terminal' or 'ped' (short for pedestal). In Nebraska with Qwest Communications we are responsible for the drop wire to the customer premises and the Service Network Interface (SNI) that is on the back of the building. The SNI's purpose is to perform surge suppression and act as a demarcation point where we hand dial tone off to the customer. We still have a few carbons in the field but our policy is to change them out to the new SNI's with gas discharge protection any time we see one. That's at no cost to the customer. And - as many have already said - the gas discharge tube or even newer solid state devices are a great improvement over the old carbons. Doug Zastrow WB0UPJ - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks I really don't know, it's been almost 20 years since I worked for a wireline company. The best thing is to call telephone repair and ask them.Joe Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe The box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the "A Box"? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were four other lines connected to the box. Gran K6RIF At 18:36 8/18/2005, you wrote: There may be a gas discharge replacement for the unit that you have, but they might be difficult to find. I tossed the ones I had years ago. Your best bet is to change out the entire mounting to a newer design, scraping the carbons may have changed the spark gap. 73, Joe, K1ike Ex Bell head Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Telephone company demarks have the old carbon style lightning arresters. Any success repairing them? I know the new ones have a gas discharge design. The element has a couple of crimps that hold the carbon from falling out and the gap is insured by a plastic or ceramic holder. I have scraped the carbon surfaces and they now read open. Anyone been there with this? (in particular the repair aspect) I am sure I could stop enough telco trucks to get replacements. Gran K6RIF Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks
At 09:54 AM 8/19/05, you wrote: Hey Dick!, You are an old goat!! I had to explain how tubes worked to someone the other day. Time sure flies. I just tell folks that they are high voltage glow-in-the-dark FETs. Then I show them a 1945 portable (trailer mounted) 1200w generator (still works) that has a selenium stack rectifier for the field winding. It's been converted to propane, but I will have to convert it back - the 50-gallon propane tank rusted out. Fortunately I still have the carburetor. Or I might sell it. Mike WA6ILQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voting circuit required
I'll throw in a vote for the LDG Voter. It's a really nice way to set up a voting system. Has a lot of extra helpful bells and whistles you can actually use. cheers, skipp Jamey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is actually one of tose on eBay right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/Doug-Hall-4RV-2-Signal-to-Noise-Radio-Voter_W0QQitemZ753 8605980QQcategoryZ46539QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jamey Wright -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B. Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Voting circuit required bradley glen wrote: Good day All I am still looking for a 4 channel voting circuit to place voting on my UHF linked system. The two channel on Repeater Builders page will not suffice. Regards Bradley Glen ZS5WT http://members.harc.org.za/zs5wt Best bet: http://www.dheco.com/voter.htm Easy to set up, reliable, votes as good as anything else, and much cheaper than Mot or GE. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Manual/Help needed
I need a manual for a S1338 series Motorola Station Monitor.. Micor era unit. it's a monitor receiver with a modulation scope, etc. Used mainly for public safety systems in the 70's and 80's. Any help out there? original part # was 68-81069A29 Thanks, Lance N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
Read this: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/stationmod.html (the section under Channel Elements) And, http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/stationcontrol.html the section "Keyed Exciter Channel Element Modification" Kevin n9lv wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
Mathew, Your advice is correct; if the exciter is not keyed 100% of the time, there will be a delay on key-up. But, the fact that you can hear the exciter's signal outside of the shack indicates that perhaps: 1. The Unified Chassis does not have all of the filtering components required for a repeater station, or 2. The shield plate for the exciter has not been snapped in place, or 3. The overall shield plate for the exciter shelf has not been installed WITH ALL SCREWS. When all shields are properly installed, the unkeyed MICOR station should not be heard more than a few hundred feet away. When a careless technician leaves off one of the shields, or omits several of the shield screws, excessive radiation is likely to occur. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY n9lv wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Our 70cm Micor does this too. You're hearing this at a few miles?? Definitely not right. We can hear ours maybe 20-30 feet from the rack cabinet, and none of that RF is radiated from the antenna. Like others have suggested, check for missing shields, or maybe some way that the RF is getting to the antenna. See if the signal at a few miles away changes/goes away when the antenna is disconnected. Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff
HEY Andy what Frequency are you planning On putting this 220 repeater? Andrew wrote: Guys, If anyone has any 220 repeater equipment they would like to get rid of (sell/working) such as amplifiers, RX or TX stuff and things of that nature please contact me direct off list. I am in need of 220 gear for a repeater project. Thanks in advance. My email is kc2gow at yahoo dot com Andy KC2GOW Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
It also makes the transmitter much more stable frequency-wise. In fact, I made that exact mod to a Hamtronics exciter aver 20 years ago. Of course, it needed it much more than a Micor. ;- Joe M. Laryn Lohman wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Our 70cm Micor does this too. You're hearing this at a few miles?? Definitely not right. We can hear ours maybe 20-30 feet from the rack cabinet, and none of that RF is radiated from the antenna. Like others have suggested, check for missing shields, or maybe some way that the RF is getting to the antenna. See if the signal at a few miles away changes/goes away when the antenna is disconnected. Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way
I should add that my mod was only 'hearable' within about 20-30 feet of the equipment building. If you are hearing yours for miles, you might want to look into it or mod it to switch the last 'always on' stage to key with the amp. Also, check the power output. You should not see any from the amp. Joe M. mch wrote: It also makes the transmitter much more stable frequency-wise. In fact, I made that exact mod to a Hamtronics exciter aver 20 years ago. Of course, it needed it much more than a Micor. ;- Joe M. Laryn Lohman wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the time, the TLD5322. I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles from the repeater site. Is there another alternative to this? Mathew Our 70cm Micor does this too. You're hearing this at a few miles?? Definitely not right. We can hear ours maybe 20-30 feet from the rack cabinet, and none of that RF is radiated from the antenna. Like others have suggested, check for missing shields, or maybe some way that the RF is getting to the antenna. See if the signal at a few miles away changes/goes away when the antenna is disconnected. Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff
I have a pair at 223.840 (normal offset) available. Andy Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.