Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread fire22pa
I agree just have them replaced with the gas discharge
type much better than the carbon 

--- Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dont bother,upgrade to gas discharge,far better
 protection and from this 
 century too!







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc

2005-08-19 Thread Jim Kvochick
I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial
radios glued together as repeaters.  Often it has been IC-221S or IC-
121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units.

My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the 
signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these 
rigs?

I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with 
much information.

Regards

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread Gran Clark




Joe
The box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the A
Box? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that
assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were four
other lines connected to the box.
Gran K6RIF


At 18:36 8/18/2005, you wrote:
There may be a gas
discharge replacement for the unit that you have, but they might be
difficult to find. I tossed the ones I had years ago. Your best bet
is to change out the entire mounting to a newer design, scraping the
carbons may have changed the spark gap. 
73, Joe, K1ike
Ex Bell head

 Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi All
 
 Telephone company demarks have the old carbon style lightning 
 arresters. Any success repairing them? I know the new
ones have a 
 gas discharge design. The element has a couple of crimps
that hold 
 the carbon from falling out and the gap is insured by a plastic or

 ceramic holder. I have scraped the carbon surfaces and they
now read open.
 
 Anyone been there with this? (in particular the repair
aspect) I am 
 sure I could stop enough telco trucks to get replacements.
 
 Gran K6RIF
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Bade
Jim;
 There is a factory option cable pigtail which an be added 
that will put most everything you could need on a external db25 
connector... It can be ordered from an Icom dealer. You could build 
it but I suspect you would have more problems with the internal 
connector than is worth the trouble as the option cable is the $25-35 
area as I recall. I am pretty sure there is one for most all the new 
mobiles... I think it is documented in the service manuals also.

Doug
KD8B



At 09:53 AM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial
radios glued together as repeaters.  Often it has been IC-221S or IC-
121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units.

My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the
signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these
rigs?

I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with
much information.

Regards

Jim WB8AZP










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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc

2005-08-19 Thread Kevin Bednar
Jim,
 It's very easy as they are designed for those signals to be accessable,
much like the Motorola radios. There is a cable, part OPC-617, that plugs
inside the radio and brings those signals out to a female DB-9 connector.
You have to cut a few traces in the radio depending on the options you need
and the signals are then on the 9 pin connector, and they will still
function as normal mobiles. Hope this helps.

Kevin
K2KMB

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links
etc

I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM commercial
radios glued together as repeaters.  Often it has been IC-221S or IC- 121S
units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units.

My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the signals
you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from these rigs?

I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up with much
information.

Regards

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread Richard D. Reese





About four years ago I had an old box on my home 
for my Verizon North telephone service. It had the carbons inside from 
1969 when the house was constructed. I started having noise on the lines 
and called Verizon. Told them they were bad and needed 
replaced. They sent a man out who changed the box to one of the new modern 
ones . No problem - no cost to me. The only thing was the guy was 
new and I had to help him do it properly he did not know what carbons 
were!

Rich WA8DBW



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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone 
  Co Lightning pucks
  JoeThe box that comes out of the ground, 
  is this termed the "A Box"? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would 
  change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were 
  four other lines connected to the box.Gran 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread John Portz





Hey Dick!, You are 
an old goat!! I had to explain how tubes worked to someone the other 
day. Time sure flies.













  




  
  
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About four years ago I had an old box on my home 
for my Verizon North telephone service. It had the carbons inside from 
1969 when the house was constructed. I started having noise on the lines 
and called Verizon. Told them they were bad and needed 
replaced. They sent a man out who changed the box to one of the new modern 
ones . No problem - no cost to me. The only thing was the guy was 
new and I had to help him do it properly he did not know what carbons 
were!

Rich WA8DBW



Richard D. Reesehttp://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gran Clark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone 
  Co Lightning pucks
  JoeThe box that comes out of the ground, 
  is this termed the "A Box"? Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would 
  change that assembly on my request as a customer? I noticed there were 
  four other lines connected to the box.Gran 
  K6RIF




  





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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc

2005-08-19 Thread skipp025
Hi Jim, 

Many Icom, Motorola, Kenwood... yadda, yaddd brand radios 
do the commercial mobile radio to repeater package. Most 
newer decent quality radios have an option for external 
interface connections. 

The factory back to back cables work. Some layouts don't 
do much more than a rude back to back radio. Some layouts 
have basic repeater controllers going all the way through 
to a full blown ham radio or commercial mutil function 
controller... multi sub tone, even trunking format. 

Understand that most mobile radios have small heat sinks, 
which get hot fast in full power in repeater service (even 
with a fan).  The typical Motorola GR300 with two mobiles 
at 40 watts output will burn up if you lock to talk it 
as a full busy repeater.  So, turn the the power output 
down (most often done in software) if you want to use it 
for long repeater talk times. 

There's a guy on Ebay selling everything Icom cheaper 
than most local Dealers can do for you.  I'm sure his 
service is limited. Sort of the Ebay Wall Mart of Icom 
Radio sales.

Another guy is selling basic back to back Motorola 
mobile radio cables for under $10 each.  These units 
are cheap and quite fun to play with. 

Most Kenwood radios work with the kct flying lead radio 
cable option, the newer tk-7180/8180 radios have the 
connection on an already available rear mounted connector. 
I've done a number of repeaters and special configs 
using the older and newer radios. 

There's a group of hams out here using Amateur Radios 
back to back for repeaters.  If they talk too long, 
the tx radio power amp gets hot and the radio (repeater 
power) goes away until it cools down and resets the 
protection circuit. 

Commercial radios often have most of the required external 
signals and controls for repeater operation.  Sometimes 
a jumper or software switch might need to be set. 

As Doug mentions, sometimes it's an easy plug and play 
if you want to buy the cable. Sometimes you simply 
wire it yourself.

cheers,
skipp 

 Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim;
  There is a factory option cable pigtail which an be added 
 that will put most everything you could need on a external db25 
 connector... It can be ordered from an Icom dealer. You could build 
 it but I suspect you would have more problems with the internal 
 connector than is worth the trouble as the option cable is the
$25-35 
 area as I recall. I am pretty sure there is one for most all the
new 
 mobiles... I think it is documented in the service manuals also.
 
 Doug
 KD8B
 
 
 
 At 09:53 AM 8/19/2005, you wrote:
 I've seen on many auction sites folks selling pairs of ICOM
commercial
 radios glued together as repeaters.  Often it has been IC-221S or
IC-
 121S units and sometimes IC-111S or IC-211S units.
 
 My question is, does anyone here know how difficult it is to get
the
 signals you might need (like PTT, audio in/out, COS, etc) from
these
 rigs?
 
 I've searched the ICOM site pretty thoroughly, and haven't come up
with
 much information.
 
 Regards
 
 Jim WB8AZP
 






 
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[Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread n9lv
I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the 
time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will 
have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles 
from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:52 AM 8/19/05, you wrote:

I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the
time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will
have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles
from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?

Mathew

Your problem is that the channel element is running all the time
and someone has probably left a shield plate off.  Or it came
that way and he does not know it's missing.   Maybe someone
can take a photo of a station with all the shields in place and
post it.  In fact, that might make a good web page - especially
if it listed all the part numbers.

The basic Micor station can be configured as a base (with
an antenna relay) or as a duplex base or as a repeater (both
of which have no relay).  The antenna relay output is a fairly
robust switching transistor (an open collector output).

The repeater-builder.com web site has a Micor page that has
a bunch of conversion articles.  One step in the basic mod
jumpers the channel element enable pin to ground.
An alternative mod uses the antenna relay output to key
the channel element.  This trick resolves situation you are
seeing.

Your fix? You will remove the jumper from the transmitter
channel element enable pin to ground, and replace it with
one that goes from the element to the antenna relay output.
(I think it is on the station control card, but I forget which
pin it is.)

But look for a missing shield as well.

Mike WA6ILQ





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
That's interesting to know Mathew.  We're in the process of putting a
converted hi band VHF Micor on 220 and as it is set up now, the exciter is
keyed.  I would guess that it wouldn't be much of a delay anyway.  The final
stage of the exciter is keyed with keyed A- and I believe the xtal module is
keyed ( I think, but I don't remember) as well.  If I had that problem, I
would hook up the key line again.  In the bench test configuration, I do
know that with the final stage unkeyed and the xtal module oscillating, we
have about 7 mW at the output of the exciter.  You probably could hear that
a few miles.  However, isn't the PA keyed and unkeyed?



de WD7F
John in Tucson

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there
another way


I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the
time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will
have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles
from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?

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[Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff

2005-08-19 Thread Andrew
Guys,
  If anyone has any 220 repeater equipment they would like to get rid 
of (sell/working) such as amplifiers, RX or TX stuff and things of 
that nature please contact me direct off list. I am in need of 220 
gear for a repeater project. Thanks in advance. My email is 
kc2gow at yahoo dot com

Andy KC2GOW






 
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Re: [SPAM:*] Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, isthere another way

2005-08-19 Thread Neil McKie

  The transmitter Channel Elemend is grounded through Q8 on the 
 Squelch Gate Board TLN4662A via Pin 3 on the edge connector.  
 Just be certain Jumpers JU-5 and JU-6 are in place. 

  The Q8 transistor is turned on by either a Keyed A+ (from Pin 6 
 on the edge connector) or Delayed Keyed A+ (from Pin 7 on the 
 edge connector) signal. 

  Hope this helps, 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
 
 At 08:52 AM 8/19/05, you wrote:
 
 I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the
 time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will
 have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles
 from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?
 
 Mathew
 
 Your problem is that the channel element is running all the time
 and someone has probably left a shield plate off.  Or it came
 that way and he does not know it's missing.   Maybe someone
 can take a photo of a station with all the shields in place and
 post it.  In fact, that might make a good web page - especially
 if it listed all the part numbers.
 
 The basic Micor station can be configured as a base (with
 an antenna relay) or as a duplex base or as a repeater (both
 of which have no relay).  The antenna relay output is a fairly
 robust switching transistor (an open collector output).
 
 The repeater-builder.com web site has a Micor page that has
 a bunch of conversion articles.  One step in the basic mod
 jumpers the channel element enable pin to ground.
 An alternative mod uses the antenna relay output to key
 the channel element.  This trick resolves situation you are
 seeing.
 
 Your fix? You will remove the jumper from the transmitter
 channel element enable pin to ground, and replace it with
 one that goes from the element to the antenna relay output.
 (I think it is on the station control card, but I forget which
 pin it is.)
 
 But look for a missing shield as well.
 
 Mike WA6ILQ
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater

2005-08-19 Thread R. K. Brumback










Does anyone have the step by step on hooking up two rangers
for repeater use? Also, can you recommend a controller! I am also looking for
the service manual for the VHF and the UHF version.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater

2005-08-19 Thread mch
RANGRs are only like 5% TX duty cycle.

Joe M.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread Joe
 I really don't know, it's been almost 20 years since I worked for a wireline 
company.  The best thing is to call telephone repair and ask them.

Joe
 Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Joe
 
 The box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the A Box?  Do 
 you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that assembly on my 
 request as a customer?  I noticed there were four other lines 
 connected to the box.
 
 Gran K6RIF
 
 
 
 
 At 18:36 8/18/2005, you wrote:
   There may be a gas discharge replacement for the unit that you 
  have, but they might be difficult to find. I tossed the ones I had 
  years ago.  Your best bet is to change out the entire mounting to a 
  newer design, scraping the carbons may have changed the spark gap.
 
 73, Joe, K1ike
 Ex Bell head
 
 
  Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi All
  
   Telephone company demarks have the old carbon style lightning
   arresters.  Any success repairing them?  I know the new ones have a
   gas discharge design.   The element has a couple of crimps that hold
   the carbon from falling out and the gap is insured by a plastic or
   ceramic holder.  I have scraped the carbon surfaces and they now read 
   open.
  
   Anyone been there with this?  (in particular the repair aspect)  I am
   sure I could stop enough telco trucks to get replacements.
  
   Gran K6RIF
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread Joe
 I guess he wouldn't know what a heat coil is, either.
Joe

 Richard D. Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 The only thing was the guy was new and I had to help him do it properly he 
 did not know what carbons were!





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using 2 GE Rangers for repeater

2005-08-19 Thread Chuck Kelsey





Rangers are not a particularly good choice for 
repeater configuration due to the very wide front end and the low transmit duty 
cycle.

Chuck
WB2EDV




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  Does anyone have the step by step 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Zastrow





Joe,

I'm a current 'Bell Head' so I can probably offer up some 
thoughts.

Telephone lingo varies greatly from one company to the next 
and from one region to another. In Nebraska an 'A' Box is actually a three 
position wooden box that's used to sit on while splicing cable. 
It'smost commonlyknown as a 'butt box' for obvious 
reasons.

You might be thinking of the green or light beige metal box 
that sits in your back yard or on your property line that houses telephone cable 
and the small 'drop' wire that runs to your home, business or tower. (Drop 
comes from the aerial days when the wire 'dropped' from the main cable pole run 
to the home.) We commonly callthe boxa 'terminal' or 'ped' 
(short for pedestal).

In Nebraska with Qwest Communications we are responsible for 
the drop wire to the customer premises and the Service Network Interface (SNI) 
that is on the back of the building. The SNI's purpose is to perform surge 
suppression and act as a demarcation point where we hand dial tone off to the 
customer.

We still have a few carbons in the field but our policy is to 
change them out to the new SNI's with gas discharge protection any time we see 
one. That's at no cost to the customer.

And - as many have already said - the gas discharge tube or 
even newer solid state devices are a great improvement over the old 
carbons.

Doug Zastrow WB0UPJ

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Joe 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 4:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone 
  Co Lightning pucks
  I really don't know, it's been almost 20 years since I worked 
  for a wireline company. The best thing is to call telephone repair and 
  ask them.Joe Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Joe 
   The box that comes out of the ground, is this termed the "A 
  Box"? Do  you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would change that 
  assembly on my  request as a customer? I noticed there were four 
  other lines  connected to the box.  Gran K6RIF 
  At 18:36 8/18/2005, you wrote: 
   There may be a gas discharge replacement for the unit that you 
have, but they might be difficult to find. I tossed the ones I 
  had   years ago. Your best bet is to change out the entire 
  mounting to a   newer design, scraping the carbons may have 
  changed the spark gap.  73, Joe, K1ike Ex 
  Bell head    Gran Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hi 
  All Telephone company demarks have the old 
  carbon style lightning   arresters. Any success 
  repairing them? I know the new ones have a   gas 
  discharge design. The element has a couple of crimps that 
  hold   the carbon from falling out and the gap is insured by a 
  plastic or   ceramic holder. I have scraped the carbon 
  surfaces and they now read open. Anyone 
  been there with this? (in particular the repair aspect) I 
  am   sure I could stop enough telco trucks to get 
  replacements. Gran K6RIF  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

2005-08-19 Thread Mike Morris




At 09:54 AM 8/19/05, you wrote:
Hey
Dick!, You are an old goat!! I had to explain how tubes
worked to someone the other day. Time sure
flies.
I just tell folks that they are high voltage glow-in-the-dark
FETs.
Then I show them a 1945 portable (trailer mounted) 1200w 
generator (still works) that has a selenium stack rectifier for 
the field winding.
It's been converted to propane, but I will have to convert it 
back - the 50-gallon propane tank rusted out. Fortunately 
I still have the carburetor.
Or I might sell it.
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voting circuit required

2005-08-19 Thread skipp025
I'll throw in a vote for the LDG Voter.  It's a 
really nice way to set up a voting system. Has 
a lot of extra helpful bells and whistles you 
can actually use. 

cheers, 
skipp 

 Jamey Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is actually one of tose on eBay right now.
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Doug-Hall-4RV-2-Signal-to-Noise-Radio-Voter_W0QQitemZ753
 8605980QQcategoryZ46539QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
 Jamey Wright
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B.
 Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:12 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Voting circuit required
 
 
 bradley glen wrote:
 
  Good day All
 
   I am still looking for a 4 channel voting circuit to
  place voting on my UHF linked system.
 
  The two channel on Repeater Builders page will not
  suffice.
 
  Regards
 
  Bradley Glen  ZS5WT
   http://members.harc.org.za/zs5wt
 
 Best bet:
 http://www.dheco.com/voter.htm
 Easy to set up, reliable, votes as good as anything else, and much
 cheaper than Mot or GE.
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[Repeater-Builder] Manual/Help needed

2005-08-19 Thread Captainlance





I need a manual for a S1338 series Motorola Station 
Monitor.. Micor era unit. it's a monitor receiver with a modulation scope, etc. 
Used mainly for public safety systems in the 70's and 80's. Any help 
out there? original part # was 68-81069A29 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread Kevin Custer






Read this:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/stationmod.html
(the section under Channel Elements)

And, http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/stationcontrol.html
the section "Keyed Exciter
Channel Element Modification"

Kevin

n9lv wrote:

  I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the 
time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will 
have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles 
from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mathew,

Your advice is correct;  if the exciter is not keyed 100% of the time,
there will be a delay on key-up.

But, the fact that you can hear the exciter's signal outside of the shack
indicates that perhaps:

1.  The Unified Chassis does not have all of the filtering components
required for a repeater station, or
2.  The shield plate for the exciter has not been snapped in place, or
3.  The overall shield plate for the exciter shelf has not been installed
WITH ALL SCREWS.

When all shields are properly installed, the unkeyed MICOR station should
not be heard more than a few hundred feet away.  When a careless
technician leaves off one of the shields, or omits several of the shield
screws, excessive radiation is likely to occur.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

n9lv wrote:

 I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the
 time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will
 have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles
 from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?

 Mathew


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[Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the 
 time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will 
 have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles 
 from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?  
 
 Mathew

Our 70cm Micor does this too.  You're hearing this at a few miles??
 Definitely not right.  We can hear ours maybe 20-30 feet from the
rack cabinet, and none of that RF is radiated from the antenna.  Like
others have suggested, check for missing shields, or maybe some way
that the RF is getting to the antenna.  See if the signal at a few
miles away changes/goes away when the antenna is disconnected.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff

2005-08-19 Thread Neal Newman
 HEY Andy  what Frequency are you planning On putting this 220 repeater?


Andrew wrote:

Guys,
  If anyone has any 220 repeater equipment they would like to get rid 
of (sell/working) such as amplifiers, RX or TX stuff and things of 
that nature please contact me direct off list. I am in need of 220 
gear for a repeater project. Thanks in advance. My email is 
kc2gow at yahoo dot com

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread mch
It also makes the transmitter much more stable frequency-wise. In fact,
I made that exact mod to a Hamtronics exciter aver 20 years ago. Of
course, it needed it much more than a Micor. ;-

Joe M.

Laryn Lohman wrote:
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the
  time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will
  have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles
  from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?
 
  Mathew
 
 Our 70cm Micor does this too.  You're hearing this at a few miles??
  Definitely not right.  We can hear ours maybe 20-30 feet from the
 rack cabinet, and none of that RF is radiated from the antenna.  Like
 others have suggested, check for missing shields, or maybe some way
 that the RF is getting to the antenna.  See if the signal at a few
 miles away changes/goes away when the antenna is disconnected.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD5322 Exciter is on all the time, is there another way

2005-08-19 Thread mch
I should add that my mod was only 'hearable' within about 20-30 feet of
the equipment building. If you are hearing yours for miles, you might
want to look into it or mod it to switch the last 'always on' stage to
key with the amp. Also, check the power output. You should not see any
from the amp.

Joe M.

mch wrote:
 
 It also makes the transmitter much more stable frequency-wise. In fact,
 I made that exact mod to a Hamtronics exciter aver 20 years ago. Of
 course, it needed it much more than a Micor. ;-
 
 Joe M.
 
 Laryn Lohman wrote:
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a motorola micor repeater that has the exciter keyed up all the
   time, the TLD5322.  I'm told if it is not setup like this that it will
   have a delay in the keyup. The signal can be heard for a few miles
   from the repeater site.  Is there another alternative to this?
  
   Mathew
 
  Our 70cm Micor does this too.  You're hearing this at a few miles??
   Definitely not right.  We can hear ours maybe 20-30 feet from the
  rack cabinet, and none of that RF is radiated from the antenna.  Like
  others have suggested, check for missing shields, or maybe some way
  that the RF is getting to the antenna.  See if the signal at a few
  miles away changes/goes away when the antenna is disconnected.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Repeater Stuff

2005-08-19 Thread Andrew G.




I have a pair at 223.840 (normal offset) available.

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