Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two-Tone Sequential Coding Standard
That's pretty much what I figured as well, but maybe the tolerance isn't as tight as the freqs are spec'd to. They could have done that to throw us off. PL tones can be off by close to one cycle and still work properly, but they're spaced apart by 3-4 cycles, so I'd say the tolerance on those is likely +/- 1-2 Hz. Similar logic on the paging tones would show they're spaced 30-60 Hz apart, so the tolerance might still be 0.5-1% or so, which would be easier to deal with than under 0.1%. As long as the tones aren't harmonically related, even with the tolerance at one end. Just my $0.02 worth. Bob M. == --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Well, I guess the Rosetta Stone document is not as valuable as I had hoped. I went through it carefully, but found no statement of tone tolerance. However, I can infer from the printed frequencies- which are specified to 1/10 Hz- that the tolerance is +/- 0.1 Hz or better. That jibes with your assumption of well under one percent. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Bob M. wrote: I think all we wanted to find out was the frequency tolerance. Is that in the document? The general consensus seemed to be well under 1 percent, just based on the odd frequencies in use. Bob M. == --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A week ago, there was an exchange of postings regarding the specifications of the two-tone sequential paging format. After some searching of my Motorola archives, I found a document which I believe is the Rosetta Stone we seek. It is Motorola Publication 6881103C80, entitled Two-Tone Sequential Tone Coding. This seven-page document includes the timing and deviation specifications, along with charts listing the various code plans. It costs about $3 from Motorola Parts. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two-Tone Sequential Coding Standard
The frequency stamped on the tone has nothing to do with the tolerence range of it. PL tones are stamped to .1 Hz, but will generally work +- 1% or so, and are spaced at 3-4% intervals. This is probably a similiar tolerence, given the fact that PL and 2 tone come from the same era and started by using the same technology reeds. I would guess that +-1% should work fine for seting off a 2tone decoder, maybe even more- for sure the tones don't have to be right on or even within .1% for reliable operation. Joe --- Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's pretty much what I figured as well, but maybe the tolerance isn't as tight as the freqs are spec'd to. They could have done that to throw us off. PL tones can be off by close to one cycle and still work properly, but they're spaced apart by 3-4 cycles, so I'd say the tolerance on those is likely +/- 1-2 Hz. Similar logic on the paging tones would show they're spaced 30-60 Hz apart, so the tolerance might still be 0.5-1% or so, which would be easier to deal with than under 0.1%. As long as the tones aren't harmonically related, even with the tolerance at one end. Just my $0.02 worth. Bob M. == --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Well, I guess the Rosetta Stone document is not as valuable as I had hoped. I went through it carefully, but found no statement of tone tolerance. However, I can infer from the printed frequencies- which are specified to 1/10 Hz- that the tolerance is +/- 0.1 Hz or better. That jibes with your assumption of well under one percent. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Bob M. wrote: I think all we wanted to find out was the frequency tolerance. Is that in the document? The general consensus seemed to be well under 1 percent, just based on the odd frequencies in use. Bob M. == --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A week ago, there was an exchange of postings regarding the specifications of the two-tone sequential paging format. After some searching of my Motorola archives, I found a document which I believe is the Rosetta Stone we seek. It is Motorola Publication 6881103C80, entitled Two-Tone Sequential Tone Coding. This seven-page document includes the timing and deviation specifications, along with charts listing the various code plans. It costs about $3 from Motorola Parts. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Aerotron Repeater Help
Hi all, I'm new to the list and am looking for any info/help I can get on an old MPAC VHF Aerotron repeater that I inherited. We're trying to get the osc. boards to fire, but have failed so far. I have several boards and none of them from the repeater will fire. The boards mount on three pins in the Rx or Tx. Everything else seems to be working except these boards. Could there be a means of turning them on? Any help would be appreciated. I can furnish digital pictures, etc., if need be. If anyone is in need of info from the service manual on these I do have one available. Be glad to help out. Appreciate any help. Thank you Roger Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Will the person that sent a msg to yahoo groups about listing a low band station on EBAY please send me the EBAY Item Number. I have searched EBAY under GE, Mastr, MastrII without finding it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Fred W5VAY YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Want ot BUY UHF Repeater
Looking to Buy a UHF 440 mhz HamBand Repeater must be programble to frequency and at least 25-50 or more watts output Must have Controler but i dont need duplexers i have my own tune..Let me know what you have and priceI not going to pay new price for used gear.Tnx Bobby/N2BR email Bob/N2BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Fred, Was it this one? 5838651515 It is a Motorola... mike -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of FHSSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:03 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will the person that sent a msg to yahoo groups about listing a low band station on EBAY please send me the EBAY Item Number. I have searched EBAY under GE, Mastr, MastrII without finding it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Fred W5VAY YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Want ot BUY UHF Repeater
Bob, KF4ZRI has 2 listed on ebay.. 7567795269 7567792082 Look like Micor unified chassis radios from the cabinets.. Fairhope, AL. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Want ot BUY UHF Repeater Looking to Buy a UHF 440 mhz HamBand Repeater must be programble to frequency and at least 25-50 or more watts output Must have Controler but i dont need duplexers i have my own tune..Let me know what you have and priceI not going to pay new price for used gear.Tnx Bobby/N2BR email Bob/N2BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
I don't have one listed on ebay (yet), but I have a complete Mastr II repeater on 45Mhz. It is a B3D100YAUDA, with a Wacom WP-604-C duplexer and a DB 4 bay folded diploe array. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Hello, Where are you located? Paul WB5IDM -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:56 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY I don't have one listed on ebay (yet), but I have a complete Mastr II repeater on 45Mhz. It is a B3D100YAUDA, with a Wacom WP-604-C duplexer and a DB 4 bay folded diploe array. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Want ot BUY UHF Repeater
Bobby, what are you looking for, and what do you want to pay/trade? I've got a modified GM300 here ready to go. We;re not that far apart, I'm in Lexington, Ky, and come to Renfro Valley every weekend, as I'm on staff there in the band. Mike KA4MKG Bob wrote: Looking to Buy a UHF 440 mhz HamBand Repeater must be programble to frequency and at least 25-50 or more watts output Must have Controler but i dont need duplexers i have my own tune..Let me know what you have and priceI not going to pay new price for used gear.Tnx Bobby/N2BR email Bob/N2BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Are you interested in selling the duplexer and/or the antenna separately? I am currently building a 6m machine. Mike K5JMP -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:56 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY I don't have one listed on ebay (yet), but I have a complete Mastr II repeater on 45Mhz. It is a B3D100YAUDA, with a Wacom WP-604-C duplexer and a DB 4 bay folded diploe array. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] how i can connect 2 mobile radios GM160 Motorola to work like repatear
Hi to all how i can connect 2 mobile radios GM160 Motorola to work like repatear, by used the accessories pins ??? Thanks alot YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Vehicular repeater info
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI The Midland 70-050 70-052 70-055 70-056 Radios work great on 6 meters.. Just make sure you get the C split 80 channels of pure fun 73 Scott ka9sln Fort Wayne In Different radios-he's talking about the 70-0500 series (note the extra 0). These are Syn-Tech II, instead of the original Syn-Tech's. Various config's, up to 360 Ch's. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Want ot BUY UHF Repeater
Mike looking for a repeater 25-50 watts with controler not looking to trade only to buy if price is right.Bobby/N2BR --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bobby, what are you looking for, and what do you want to pay/trade? I've got a modified GM300 here ready to go. We;re not that far apart, I'm in Lexington, Ky, and come to Renfro Valley every weekend, as I'm on staff there in the band. Mike KA4MKG Bob wrote: Looking to Buy a UHF 440 mhz HamBand Repeater must be programble to frequency and at least 25-50 or more watts output Must have Controler but i dont need duplexers i have my own tune..Let me know what you have and priceI not going to pay new price for used gear.Tnx Bobby/N2BR email Bob/N2BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA PARTS SUPPLY
I need a tu-540W for a mototola receiver, does anyone know where i may find one? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aerotron Repeater Help
It's been a long time since I played with an Aerotron station, but you have to remember that they are multichannel units - and there are frequency select lines. Motorola uses a ground on a pint to enable the appropriate channel, and Aerotron may be the same. Look at the schematic (or trace the oscillator section of an extra board if you don't have one) and locate the select lines - you will probably find that they go to sequential pins on a connector, and one of the other pins on that same connector is the select line (either a ground or a voltage). Once you determine if you have to tie the select line high or low, then do that to the channel 1 pin on the connector and it should work. Then you can quote the famous line from Young Frankenstein It's Aive. It's Aive. Mike WA6ILQ At 06:26 AM 12/5/05, you wrote: Hi all, I'm new to the list and am looking for any info/help I can get on an old MPAC VHF Aerotron repeater that I inherited. We're trying to get the osc. boards to fire, but have failed so far. I have several boards and none of them from the repeater will fire. The boards mount on three pins in the Rx or Tx. Everything else seems to be working except these boards. Could there be a means of turning them on? Any help would be appreciated. I can furnish digital pictures, etc., if need be. If anyone is in need of info from the service manual on these I do have one available. Be glad to help out. Appreciate any help. Thank you Roger Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Aerotron Repeater Help
At 01:30 PM 12/5/2005 -0800, you wrote: Motorola uses a ground on a pint to enable the appropriate channel, and Aerotron may be the same. ---My Quintron uses an Aerotron MPAC receiver. They don't ground the TXCO in order to enable it, they supply 9.5 volts DC to it (switched as they say). The pin used is the one in the center, on the opposite end of it from the trimmer cap Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA PARTS SUPPLY
I have the 540S filter, 5kc. the 540W is 15kc... lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: us_communications1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA PARTS SUPPLY I need a tu-540W for a mototola receiver, does anyone know where i may find one? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Vehicular repeater info
And they loose sensitivity rapidly above 48 MHz; even the CWB (Wideband) models. The 70-052C Syntech I was even spec'ed out to 54 MHz in the FCC database, and it makes a great 6m rig. .3uV sensitivity easily attainable. The 70-0520CWB Syntech II can be modified to get sensitivity of 3 uV. Without modification of the front end it will get around 3mV. David KD4NUE - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland Vehicular repeater info [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI The Midland 70-050 70-052 70-055 70-056 Radios work great on 6 meters.. Just make sure you get the C split 80 channels of pure fun 73 Scott ka9sln Fort Wayne In Different radios-he's talking about the 70-0500 series (note the extra 0). These are Syn-Tech II, instead of the original Syn-Tech's. Various config's, up to 360 Ch's. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Yep, That is a fact... I am trying to get a Micor in the cabinet shipped from just Northwest of Knoxville, TN. Shipping for a palletized cabinet was just over 500 bucks to VA I don't suppose anyone would be making that trek in the near future??? Knoxville to DC just thought I would ask... mike -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul FinchSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY
Mike, You may want to check with the auto transport group on Yahoo, they go all over the place and probably make it happen if you had the time. Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mike Perryman K5JMPSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:42 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Yep, That is a fact... I am trying to get a Micor in the cabinet shipped from just Northwest of Knoxville, TN. Shipping for a palletized cabinet was just over 500 bucks to VA I don't suppose anyone would be making that trek in the near future??? Knoxville to DC just thought I would ask... mike -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul FinchSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Will, Thanks, still way too far away, the shipping would be terrible! Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:12 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low band station listed on EBAY Northwest Florida. Will KC4YBZ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos
I've got two of the polyphasors today. They will ship via USPS Priority Mail for about $4.00 If you want them, send me an address. At 06:42 PM 12/4/2005 -0500, you wrote: Sounds good, I would be willing to try it, as I plan on using n connectors. Here is my e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jim - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for RF enclos I have used old Polyphasor surge suppressors for RF tight boxes, look at: http://www.polyphaser.com/kommerce_productdetail.aspx?item=IS-PT50HN These are 4.25 long, 2.25 wide and 1.25 deep outside dimensions. They are cast aluminum, so the inside dimensions will be less. I can't find the Hamtronics preamp I have, but I think it will fit inside. The case has 2 N female connectors, one on each end. I have a few of these around, you can have one for the postage. 73, Joe, K1ike At 09:50 AM 12/1/2005 -0500, you wrote: I have a Hamtronics LNP VHF Preselector board. I would like to install it in a RF tight box. Checked with Hamtronics and they have no such item and no advise as to where to find one. I want to install the board in a metal box and have the antenna leads come out to two female N connectors, and a 12 vdc through a feed-thru connector for power. Their is no room to install it within the receiver. Thanks, Jim, K8COP Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/