[Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
Contrary to some beliefs, putting CTCSS on a repeater DOES NOT MAKE IT A CLOSED mschine! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: W5KGT wrote: And make sure that the coordinator has the correct PL tone in his data base. The only problem with that is they have a tendency to publish it. Then suddenly the repeater isn't closed anymore. It's happened here. Access codes/tones were published in the ARRL directory when they were told NOT to. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
[Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
hi all, With about all rigs manufactured in last 10 years or more CTCSS encode is standard and finding the tone of the repeater is easy. If the repeater transmits the tone some rigs find it for you. However, this is only if you know a repeater exist on a frequency. Here in Florida I have a high repeater that is NOT toned. With the influx of new Hams and ones on vacation about every week someone comes on my machine and comments it is the only one they can make. The reason is the other repeaters are toned and due to the typical Ham Radio not keeping things up to date they cannot get into the toned repeaters because the tone has been changed. Tone has definite advantages and is being required by repeater cancels more. However, the advantages do not alway apply. Hearing DX is not a problem with me for I have always thought DX was part of Ham Radio. Noise is becoming more common these days so tone would help this. Putting tone on a repeater does not bring it into the 21st century. It brings it to about 1950s technology, but can be good for many. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contrary to some beliefs, putting CTCSS on a repeater DOES NOT MAKE IT A CLOSED mschine! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jim B. jdb@ wrote: W5KGT wrote: And make sure that the coordinator has the correct PL tone in his data base. The only problem with that is they have a tendency to publish it. Then suddenly the repeater isn't closed anymore. It's happened here. Access codes/tones were published in the ARRL directory when they were told NOT to. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
[Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
Coy, Repeater coordination is important. However, the ones often doing it don't know much...they like the title, but not the work and many do not even own or operate a repeater. Here in Florida we do have a good coordinating council, but they often get into the mode of making rules that apply to all. My only real problem is they make decissions among them selves without allowing the repeater owners/trustees vote. I would respond to your council you have and state you have notified them on atleast 3 occations the repeater is on the air and that you are willing to demostrate it to them...while they are on the phone bring it up and if possible make a contact. If they continue to take action to de-coordinate I would threaten with legal action. I am sick of all the suing going on in our country, but sometimes it is required. They coordinated you so they have to live with it. If this had been an issue it should have been addressed initially. Most often a good council only wants say your CTCSS tone so another repeater on the same pair does not use it. Here in Florida the council has posted standard tones for each region and most follow it. The only real problem one region was given 100 Hz, kinda the standard for CTCSSng a repeater without closing it...of course these days if you want to close a repeater don't use CTCSS, use non- standard methode or DCS, but most rigs now come with DCS, but dought if most Hams know of it and how to program it in their rigs, hi. 73, ron, n9ee/r Coy Hilton wrote: HI Gang I have had one of my 2 meter repeaters coordinated as a closed repeater for at least two years. Three times last year I was sent a email asking if the repeater was on the air and three times I answered yes each time. I had even had a on going discussion about having multiple transmitters on the same pair coordinated. I was never asked to prove the repeater existed or even to prove it in any other way. They are trying to de-coordinate me on this pair using this reason. when it has been coordinated as a CLOSED machine for 2 years. My question to you is have any of you guys have ever heard of having a repeater coordination recinded because of this. I know that the FCC rules say that Closed repeaters are allowed and the coordinators will allow coordinating a repeater as closed. I'm looking for further replies or suggestions as how to handle this. The local director and vice-director are actually the ones behind this. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: PL BOARD
Don, I have a data sheet on the TS32 and can give info on installing it, but no particulars on the 13-509. Let me know your direct e-mail and I can send. Just a few basic notes you need for install: TS32 audio input, connect to discreminator audio...do not use speaker audio for it often does not have the low freq response for the tone. Out 1 and 2 are the logic outputs for decode...out 1 low for decode, out 2 high. Must have HANGUP grounded or will stay in decode continously. For encode connect to 13-509 encode input. Often the mike input does not have low freq response for tone, not always. Most FM rigs have a special input for the tone. Of course I am thinking this type of info on the 509 is what you are looking for. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to Donate to a New Blind Ham, a old Cobra 200 Which is the same as the Midland 13-509 220 Mobile, The problem is I don't have the Schematic and I would like to put a Communications Specialist TS-32 Pl Board so he can get into My 220 repeater, I know it is a old radio but I am sure someone might have the info I need to install it. Please tell Me in Layman terms. Thanks Don KA9QJG
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Remote Base to a Repeater
Dwayne, Gary is correct. To really comment with good solutions one needs to know: Repeater frequencies (as you've given) Remote base frequencies (suspect linking will be upside down from a repeater pair so will be txing near repeater input). What antenna seperation can you work with. Seems you need height to make the remote base work so does this mean the repeater and remote base antennas have to be close together??? One problem with cavities and notch filters are the seperation of frequencies for with a notch there also has to be a pass. Cavities are used a lot and do work if the frequencies allow it. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k4fmx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp025@ wrote: ldgelectronics ldgyahoo@ wrote: Yes, the tower spacing is vertical (not horizontal), yes the tx/rx on the repeater is 443.3 and 448.3 (5 MHz split) Don't get sideways over the vert/horz terms. We would be concerned with both the vertical and horizontal locations. Vertical distance is an easy best bang for the buck option. But horizontal distance and location per side of a tower is also quite handy. Ok, now to fill in some of the blanks I left out. This is why the group is so coolÂ… things I thought were meaningless turned out to be important. The repeater power is 20 watts, the remote base is 10 watts. Relative to the grand scheme of things... your power output is not that big of a problem to work with. The repeater is an Exec II. The remote base is a Kenwood TK-805 (just because I have a stack of them). The broadness of the TK-805 is part of the problem and this could all go away by switching to another Exec II for the remote base. I've seen a lot of tk-805d radios used as links... and they are very popular animals. It would be worth your while to include some band pass selection (cavities typical) in series with the radio. For the splits, we have both (high TX and low TX) here in Maryland. The overall plan is to connect the new repeater with the remote base to an existing hub repeater on 449.225 TX and 444.225 RX. Clint Eastwood called it a cluster $%^ in one of his movies. Keep in mind the closest frequency spacing from any transmitter to any receiver is your largest gorilla in the room. Skipp, I like the additional notch in the repeater duplexer trick. That alone may do it. I do a lot of close spaced in-band commercial radio repeating and the notch in the reciver antenna path is da dope to take out the unwanted visitor. If this is a fixed frequency remote used only for repeater linking... then you should also include a notch or suck out cavity on the remote radio, tuned to the repeater transmitter frequency. We would assume the remote radio to be operated half duplex? I did the T-to-T thing with 2 and 4 band pass cans. The loss was in the 5-6 db range with 2 cans on each side. Not really worth it. If it were 2db per side, I would live with it. Something is wrong with your setup... you should be able to do better than the 5-6 dB loss value. Since your power levels are relatively modest (vs what they could be) you could actually replace the band-pass cavities dual port-hole with simple suck out notch cavities on the unwanted frequencies as long as things don't get too crazy with choices of frequencies, power level and a few other considerations. Thanks again for all of the input. Sometimes just talking it through helps a bunch. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG Just think of the gas money you'll save by not having to drive to the repeater site to disable a locked up link/remote base system. cheers, skipp Dwayne, I am not sure what the actual setup is that you are trying to co- locate on the same tower. Maybe you could re list the frequencies? Here are a few facts about isolation that may help: Vertical separation of antennas on 450 Mhz of 10 feet gives almost 50 db of isolation. 20 feet vertical separation gives around 60 db of isolation. The spacing is figured from center to center of each antenna. Horizontal separation of 10 feet on 450 Mhz gives about 30 db of isolation. Horizontal separation of 100 feet on 450 Mhz gives about 50 db of isolation. It is much easier to get more isolation with a notch cavity than it is with a pass cavity. Combining with cavities will usually require an isolator on each transmitter in addition to the cavities. A pass cavity or a low pass filter is always required after an isolator to reduce 2nd harmonics generated by the isolator. When adding a second station on a tower you need to figure the isolation between each stations tx and rx the same as if you were building a repeater. With separate antennas the antenna
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Backing down power on Micor
Chris, Normally, and I say normally for Mot made a number of unified chassis versions, the Power Control module is in the upper right next to the exceiter board. If you have the external seperate PA a small wire from the side of the chassis goes to the PA for the control voltage. If the PA is mounted in the unified chassis next to the exciter the control module is behind the PA. The power is controlled with a pot on this module. Some modules had 2 controls, one for setting the limit for SWR shut down among other reasons and one for power. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, cpitre_01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Micor repeater that is now up and running. The transmitter is now running 50 watts. I need to back it down to 30 watts, how is this done? I do not have a manual for the unified chassis model. Please any help would be appreciated. Chris VE3CTP
RE: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1500 Power Supply
That would be Bowling Green Road. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Midgett Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1500 Power Supply If fix it yourself proves less than fruitful, I can recommend Ken Knowels of Auburn Electronic Labs Work: 270-542-6000 Fax:502-542-7706 Address: 12345 Bowling Rd (Highway 68/80 Auburn, KY 42206 I have the service manual; would be willing to help over the phone if you want to try. At 02:49 PM 1/22/2007, you wrote: Does anybody have a spare power supply that they may want to part with. I have a unit that needs the power supply replaced. Mike K7PFJ Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC VHF+ Glutton EM66se
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Parts needed
Our club needs MICOR components for the 138-158 VHF range. We currently have a DVP unified chassis and have modified it to work as a repeater using the associated SCM card. It works fine with the commercial crystals, exciter and receiver it came with but it is in the Highest portion of the VHF band. We need to be able to tune down to 145.170 transmit, 144.570 receive. So we need the exciter, receiver and the PA for that range. We have the cabinet, power supply and the other cards we need. As far as we can determine, we need the DVP receiver board TLD8272B, exciter TLD5802A and the 138-150 MHz PA. In lieu of that, we would be interested in a unified chassis and PA for the 138 - 150 VHF range or the next VHF frequency range up (150-175) in hopes we can retune it to work for us. Any info or advice would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks K4LDI Yahoo email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Repeater-Builder] Re: ACC-850 Controller V 3.6 FIRMWARE GONE!
Just a short note - the ACC - 850 are spoken for and on their way to TEXAS. Thanks to all, Ron
[Repeater-Builder] Isolator
Ed, I have a new Telewave single-stage high-power (300 watt I believe) isolator. What frequency do you need? I can put it on the network analyzer to make sure it meets spec at your frequency. I'd sell it for half of whatever Telewave list price is, and again, it's brand new, still in the original box. I have a couple of VHF duplexers, but they're overkill for a 2.3 MHz split. Both are 6-cavity Decibel Products; one is bandpass-only the other pass/reject. You can probably find something a lot cheaper than what I'd need to get out of either of these. --- Jeff _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com/Rad Inc Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:VHF Duplexer Needed 22 Jan 2007 Hello Group We are looking for a VHF Duplexer and isolator ( if available ) to do 150 W and a split of 2.3 Mhz Advise on condition, price and delivery time Thanks Ed Folta Com/Rad Inc. Des Plaines, IL -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/644 - Release Date: 1/22/2007
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator
Sorry, that last message was supposed to be direct...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Parts needed
The only portions of what you have that WILL NOT move to 2M easily are the receiver and the PA. The exciter that you have is a 150.8-174Mhz one. Most of them will tune to 2M without any changes. If changes are needed, it's only to make the last two slugs tune correctly. (Change 2 caps) The receiver's local oscillator chain will work OK on 2M (it's identical in component values.) You *will* need to change the helical resonators and the mixer coil, to work on 2M. The PA you have is useless on 2M. you need to find a 150.8-162 Mhz PA and transplant it. The PA's in the mobiles are VERY similar and can be transplanted easily. Keep the high split PA though, it will work good for spare transistors. Although often not a necessity, you should drill and adjust the Exciter band-pass filter for the least amount of loss. Converting your station is your best bet. Trying to find genuine 2M parts is VERY difficult if not impossible. That is why there is a great amount of conversion information on the repeater-builder site dealing with moving from one band to another. If you need help or need someone to do the conversions for you, Please feel free to contact us: http://www.repeater-builder.com/custombuilt/index.html http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/customrepair.html Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: k4ldi_756 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Parts needed Our club needs MICOR components for the 138-158 VHF range. We currently have a DVP unified chassis and have modified it to work as a repeater using the associated SCM card. It works fine with the commercial crystals, exciter and receiver it came with but it is in the Highest portion of the VHF band. We need to be able to tune down to 145.170 transmit, 144.570 receive. So we need the exciter, receiver and the PA for that range. We have the cabinet, power supply and the other cards we need. As far as we can determine, we need the DVP receiver board TLD8272B, exciter TLD5802A and the 138-150 MHz PA. In lieu of that, we would be interested in a unified chassis and PA for the 138 - 150 VHF range or the next VHF frequency range up (150-175) in hopes we can retune it to work for us. Any info or advice would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks K4LDI Yahoo email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 11:04 AM
[Repeater-Builder] LMR-1200
Anybody have any opinions on LMR-1200 as feedline? I have access to about 100' with N connectors at both ends, that I am thinking of using for feedline. Thanks, Dan KA8YPY
[Repeater-Builder] Anyone have a UHF Circulator/Isolator for Sale?
I'm looking for a UHF circulator/isolator for 440-450. Please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks ! Paul Metzger KQ6EH
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-1200
As for using this line I would have no qualms whatsoever. As for buying this new, I think other corrugated lines may offer a better cost / loss return. Of course prices may be more favorable now, but several years ago, solid corrugation type cable at 7/8 diamater had an advantage. Steve NU5D
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-1200
we deal mostly with LMR400/600 and LDF. The numbers look good for LMR1200 up into 70cm. If the price is right, why not? Reminds me of the free roll of 1/2 heliax (new) at one of the previous places of employment (yes it was free, not free because I made it that way) :) Dan Blasberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have any opinions on LMR-1200 as feedline? I have access to about 100' with N connectors at both ends, that I am thinking of using for feedline. Thanks, Dan KA8YPY - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-1200
Steve, Thanks, I probably should have been a little more specific. Our county OEM will be donating (giving) it to us once they get their 15' replacement piece, so that they do not 100 laying on the roof of their building. Dan KA8YPY On Jan 23, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Steven Samuel Bosshard ((NU5D)) wrote: As for using this line I would have no qualms whatsoever. As for buying this new, I think other corrugated lines may offer a better cost / loss return. Of course prices may be more favorable now, but several years ago, solid corrugation type cable at 7/8 diamater had an advantage. Steve NU5D Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners
Re: coordination question for the seasoned owners Posted by: Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ac0y8 Date: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:57 am ((PST)) Contrary to some beliefs, putting CTCSS on a repeater DOES NOT MAKE IT A CLOSED mschine! Group, As Coy said, CTCSS does not make a repeater closed! In fact ALL repeaters in Illinois must pretty much use other than carrier squelch to be coordinated or retain their coordination. Actually, it's up to each repeater system operator here to use carrier, CTCSS, DTMF, Captain Crunch, or whatever access, but in cases of interference, preference will be given to the system not using carrier squelch. 73, Al, K9SI
[Repeater-Builder] R56
Just wondering how many of you know about R56 and actually try to follow it as a guide? we've had a run-in with a motorola ss owner who wasn't to knowledgeable. Well, maybe he is, but the work he does doesn't even come close to good business practices.
[Repeater-Builder] DB 4032 Table of Coaxes Lenghts
Resending this, there must be a chart or table that exist... somewhere. Hi,anybody has the calculated length of coaxes (Table) needed for going from the T jonctions to the helical Resonnator of a DB-4032 6 resonnator Unit...for high and low notch displacement for 1 mhz separation ... Original has 500khz ... Thank's Luc VE3JGL.
[Repeater-Builder] PL BOARD
Just wanted to say a Big Thanks to everyone for all the Great info I got here and Direct E-Mail about installing a ComSpec PL Board on the old Cobra/Midland/Clegg 220 Mobile Thanks Don KA9QJG
RE: [Repeater-Builder] R56
The R56 Manual is an excellent guide to planning and installing a two-way radio site, although its primary purpose is for planning cellular and PCS sites. The sections on permitting and getting along with neighbors is very useful. The table of contents can be viewed here: www.repeater-builder.com/pdf/r56-manual-toc.pdf One area that I object to is the section on electrical system grounding, and I have filed a formal complaint with the authors to have it changed to comply with the National Electrical Code, NFPA 70. The R56 Manual proposes that the equipment grounding conductor be run to a single-point ground plate over a different path than that followed by the hot and neutral conductors. Unfortunately, that practice clearly violates Article 250 of the NEC that requires the equipment grounding conductor (the green or bare wire) to run in the same raceway or cable that contains the hot and neutral wires. As an electrical inspector and a designer of radio systems, I can see many different views of the proper way to ground sensitive electronic equipment. I also see some really creative but dangerous methods of floating the ground on equipment, supposedly to prevent noise. More often than not, these methods increase noise and make the equipment much more vulnerable to damage from lightning strikes. The bottom line is that the insurance carrier may not cover any losses if an investigation reveals that the electrical grounding system was not in full compliance with the NEC. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of radiomog Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R56 Just wondering how many of you know about R56 and actually try to follow it as a guide? we've had a run-in with a motorola ss owner who wasn't too knowledgeable. Well, maybe he is, but the work he does doesn't even come close to good business practices.
[Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master
We are using a GE Master II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action?
[Repeater-Builder] FS: Motorola Micor VHF highband repeater
Hi I acquired a Motorola Micor VHF repeater, currently on 167/172MHz. It should be a 50W radio with carrier squelch and a line interface. I don't have any use for this, and I'm willing to splice this down to some reasonable level. So if you're interrested in some parts, please contact me directly via PM or email. Have a look: http://gallery.lakki.iki.fi/Micor_VHF Note that this thing is in Finland, so shipping to US can be expensive if you are in a horry. I can ship the whole thing if someone wants it. .. Erik OH2LAK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master
On 1/23/07, wa5luy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using a GE Master II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action? How did you set the squelch? Is it set to a known signal level? When I've seen this happen the squelch is usually set too tight on the Stations. If you're talking about a converted mobile... well, read on... This article may be a lot more useful to you than finding R622: http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrIIsquelchmod.html Nate WY0X
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Too fast squelch on GE Master
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wa5luy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using a GE Master II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action? I have been using the RUS rather than CAS signal and have never had a problem with that(never needed adjustment).dan n2aym
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master
wa5luy wrote: We are using a GE Master II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action? http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrIIsquelchmod.html After you get frustrated with trying the above grin do this: http://www.link-comm.com/controllers/accessories/rlcmot/rlc-mot.htm Kevin
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
I have a TKR-750v2 base/repeater and attempting to connect it to a DSP223 control panel. The problem I am having is if the base is programmed with encode QT/DQT it mutes the (TD) TX data input line when the (EPTT) External PTT is used. Hoping someone has run into this. Thanks, Jeff
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
I have a TKR-750v2 base/repeater and attempting to connect it to a DSP223 control panel. The problem I am having is if the base is programmed with encode QT/DQT it mutes the (TD) TX data input line when the (EPTT) External PTT is used. Hoping someone has run into this. Thanks, Jeff
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
At 06:05 PM 1/23/2007, you wrote: I have a TKR-750v2 base/repeater and attempting to connect it to a DSP223 control panel. The problem I am having is if the base is programmed with encode QT/DQT it mutes the (TD) TX data input line when the (EPTT) External PTT is used. Hoping someone has run into this. ---Are you wanting to use flat audio in and that's why you're using the TD for audio instead of TA? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
Yes, the TA remains hot but I need flat audio. I can call Kenwood tomorrow but was hoping to finish this tonight. It could be a firmware problem. I can't imagine why they would purposely mute the line when QT encode is programmed. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2 At 06:05 PM 1/23/2007, you wrote: I have a TKR-750v2 base/repeater and attempting to connect it to a DSP223 control panel. The problem I am having is if the base is programmed with encode QT/DQT it mutes the (TD) TX data input line when the (EPTT) External PTT is used. Hoping someone has run into this. ---Are you wanting to use flat audio in and that's why you're using the TD for audio instead of TA? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master
On 1/23/07, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action? http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrIIsquelchmod.html After you get frustrated with trying the above grin do this: http://www.link-comm.com/controllers/accessories/rlcmot/rlc-mot.htm Kevin, Any good notes on how to specifically install one of these into a GE MASTR II floating around anywhere or any data on just how much it helps? From what we've seen here, if the squelch on the MASTR II is set right on the station, using AND squelch (logically AND'ing the CAS and CTCSS in the controller itself) works VERY well, timing-wise, and also keeps virtually all noise/interference out of the system. I know that comment doesn't help those who want to run carrier-squelch, but it really does work well on our systems here. Nate WY0X
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Too fast squelch on GE Master
- Thanks Nate. That was exactly the info I was looking for. Wayne -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/23/07, wa5luy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are using a GE Master II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action? How did you set the squelch? Is it set to a known signal level? When I've seen this happen the squelch is usually set too tight on the Stations. If you're talking about a converted mobile... well, read on... This article may be a lot more useful to you than finding R622: http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrIIsquelchmod.html Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master
There is an article on the Repeater Builder web site about improving the stock Mastr II squelch. http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrIIsquelchmod.html -Sean We are using a GE Mastr II with an RLC Club controller for our 444.600 repeater. On weak signals the repeater chops words. I have determined this is due to very fast action of the CAS turning the controller audio off and on. Looking at the schematic, U603 has internal fast and slow modes. There is an adjustment, R622 that I can't find in the book. Does anyone know how to slow down or improve the squelch action?
