[Repeater-Builder] TS-32 Tone Board

2007-09-17 Thread kf8zn
Anyone have a working one they want to part with?





[Repeater-Builder] Mastr III

2007-09-17 Thread Tina
 I recently purchased a Mastr III repeater and the person i bought it 
from said he would include the software. Well, after over a month I 
finally got the software and it's for a Mastr IIe (from what I have 
read they both use the same or similar software) it reads the machine 
OK but I cannot find where to to change the freq, I can only change the 
PL tone.
 Do I have the wrong software, or am I missing something?
 
 I really want to use this thing for my clubs main repeater, but I am 
rather exasperated at this point.

 Please help.

 KE7DZZ
 SNARS Tech Chair
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[Repeater-Builder] Re:Digipeater deviation

2007-09-17 Thread bud Thompson
What is the allowable deviation for a two meter digipeater in amateur
service? Is 15 kHz excessive?

If this is on a standard 1200b User LAN keep the deviation below 3.5 KHz - 
anything down to 3.0Khz should keep most user devices happy.

If this a 9.6kb digi keep that deviation under 3.0 KHz - 2.75Khz to 3.0KHz.

Follow the leads provided by Laryn K8TVZ and Jeff.

bud N0IA


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr III

2007-09-17 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
try launching the program Mastr.exe /M3 and see if that does the trick.
Steve NU5D


Tina wrote:
  I recently purchased a Mastr III repeater and the person i bought it 
 from said he would include the software. Well, after over a month I 
 finally got the software and it's for a Mastr IIe (from what I have 
 read they both use the same or similar software) it reads the machine 
 OK but I cannot find where to to change the freq, I can only change the 
 PL tone.
  Do I have the wrong software, or am I missing something?
  
  I really want to use this thing for my clubs main repeater, but I am 
 rather exasperated at this point.

  Please help.

  KE7DZZ
  SNARS Tech Chair
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]





  
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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45B

2007-09-17 Thread ve3iny
I've had a Zetron 45B kickin' around for a few years,  and now I'd 
like to use it ...

Problem is,  like many others who live too far away from parts 
sources,  I have a tendancy to borrow parts from one gadget to build 
another.

At one time or another,  I borrowed U2 and U30 for a controller 
project.  I believe U2 was a 6840,  and U30 was either a 567 or 555.

And of course I don't have the original schematics,  so I can't be 
sure what I need to get the unit up and running again.

If you have a 45B manual,  could you kindly look up U2 and U30,  and 
let me know what part numbers I need.

Thanks.




[Repeater-Builder] ZETRON POP 1 ?

2007-09-17 Thread kf8zn
I THINK this is a repeater phone patch, don't find it on the sites 
Zetron Link, any ideas???

KF8ZN



[Repeater-Builder] illegal_engineering

2007-09-17 Thread skipp025
http://www.timhunkin.com/94_illegal_engineering.htm



[Repeater-Builder] illegal_engineering

2007-09-17 Thread skipp025
http://www.timhunkin.com/94_illegal_engineering.htm 

Some of my over the pond friends sent the above out. If 
you have a bit of time to read some non related text. 

s. 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread skipp025
 The only way to do the close spaced frequencies 447.750 and 447.850 
 is with a hybrid type combiner. 

One is not restricted to using a hybrid... it's just a question of 
how practical and cost effective going another route would be. 

Real world loss using a hybrid is over 4dB per leg... of which I'm 
not a fan about space heating a radio vault with terminated rf power. 

The most practical choices are to be made when we hear if he wants 
to use one or more antennas and any receiver requirements. 

cheers, 
s. 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
 Real world loss using a hybrid is over 4dB per leg... of which I'm 
 not a fan about space heating a radio vault with terminated rf power. 

The quadrature hybrid itself should only be 3 dB theoretically, typically
around 3.2 dB in the real world.  It's the external circulators that need to
be added to get the necessary isolation that bumps it up to around 4 dB.

You can do productive things with the hybrid's reject port power; it doesn't
have to be connected to a dummy load.  You can put an isolator on it (to
guarantee a good match to keep the hybrid's isolation up), and feed the
output to another antenna, such as a corner reflector on the back-side of
the tower to fill in the nulls of your side-mounted omni.  Waste not, want
not like my grandmother used to say.  But make sure the IM products are
suitably attenuated; ferrites are non-linear devices so they will create IM
when passing two high-level signals.

Or, you can connect the reject port to a dump load to make a nice warm place
for mice to build a nest  :-)

--- Jeff



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
 Now that's a neat idea... I'll file that in my head and claim 
 local credit for it when no one here is paying close attention.
 
 Unless someone is really trying or just gets really lucky... it's 
 my opinion the nulls from a side mounted omni shouldn't be that 
 deep if it's properly offset from the tower/pole. 

Here in the lowlands where we don't have high mountains to put our repeaters
on, we have big tall towers with 12' faces that are packed with TV and FM
transmission lines that block RF from passing through the tower.  Nulls off
the backside over a fairly wide arc that are 30 dB deep or more are an
unfortunate fact of life...

--- Jeff



[Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread skipp025
 
 The quadrature hybrid itself should only be 3 dB theoretically, 
 typically around 3.2 dB in the real world.  It's the external 
 circulators that need to be added to get the necessary isolation 
 that bumps it up to around 4 dB.

Yep, the overall package has much resultant baggage.

 You can do productive things with the hybrid's reject port power; 
 it doesn't have to be connected to a dummy load.  You can put an 
 isolator on it (to guarantee a good match to keep the hybrid's 
 isolation up), and feed the output to another antenna, such as 
 a corner reflector on the back-side of the tower to fill in the 
 nulls of your side-mounted omni.  Waste not, want

Now that's a neat idea... I'll file that in my head and claim 
local credit for it when no one here is paying close attention.

Unless someone is really trying or just gets really lucky... it's 
my opinion the nulls from a side mounted omni shouldn't be that 
deep if it's properly offset from the tower/pole. 

Yeah... there would be viable applications where the main tx uses 
a corner reflector or similar directive antenna system and the 
otherwise wasted hybrid port power could be used to feed something 
directional the other direction. 

 not like my grandmother used to say.  But make sure the IM 
 products are suitably attenuated; ferrites are non-linear devices 
 so they will create IM when passing two high-level signals.

Quality bandpass cavities with sometimes optional harmonic filters 
are the bacon saving hardware. 

 Or, you can connect the reject port to a dump load to make a 
 nice warm place for mice to build a nest  :-)
   --- Jeff

That's what the old user installed Tripp Lite Power Supply is for. 
How much crap can a mouse stuff into it before it fails. 

cheers Jeff, 
skipp  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread Nate Duehr
Jeff DePolo wrote:

 You can do productive things with the hybrid's reject port power; it doesn't

Good lord, I never even thought of that.  Another one for the file 
until you have a chance to try it out somewhere file.  LOL!

Nate WY0X


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread Gary Schafer


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:57 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner
 
  The only way to do the close spaced frequencies 447.750 and 447.850
  is with a hybrid type combiner.
 
 One is not restricted to using a hybrid... it's just a question of
 how practical and cost effective going another route would be.
 
 Real world loss using a hybrid is over 4dB per leg... of which I'm
 not a fan about space heating a radio vault with terminated rf power.
 
 The most practical choices are to be made when we hear if he wants
 to use one or more antennas and any receiver requirements.
 
 cheers,
 s.


He said that he has only one antenna available in his post. No other way to
do it that I know.

73
Gary  K4FMX
 




[Repeater-Builder] Any micor fans in the Los Angeles area?

2007-09-17 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I have a dozen mobile Micors, Mitreks and Motracs, plus
three tabletop base stations available for haul away.
The stack includes a 12f 75w wide-spaced UHF with
12 PL tone encode, a 6m 71LHT 4f PL with Extender,
and a lot more jewels.

My house is in escrow, and I have to be out of it in 6 days.
An e-waste hauler is arriving at 1pm Wednesday.

Location is Arcadia, just east of Pasadena.

Email me and we can coordinate a time for you to pick up.



[Repeater-Builder] Re: 3 Channel UHF Ferrite Combiner

2007-09-17 Thread nj902
The T-Pass UHF transmitter multicoupler [e.g. 73-67-25-2C-03] from TX-
RX systems uses cavity-ferrite technology and can combine two 
transmitters at a separation of only 75 KHz.  The loss ... is 
comparable to that of a hybrid combiner, but T-Pass provides the 
benefit of cavity selectivity for noise and intermodulation 
supression.

--
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary Schafer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The only way to do the close spaced frequencies 447.750 and 447.850 
is with a hybrid type combiner. ...
.
.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mullarkey

...We need to combine TX 447.750, 447,850 and 464.900 into one 
antenna. ...'



[Repeater-Builder] Tone Board Wanted

2007-09-17 Thread kf8zn
Looking for a ComSpec Encoder/Decoder 32 tone.



[Repeater-Builder] Transistor M9633.

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Holmstrøm
In the psu in a Motorola MC compact repeater the driver transistor (M9633) is 
blown. Is there any simular to this from other manufactors?

73 de LA9JDA

paul