Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
At 10:53 AM 01/23/08, you wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, George Henry wrote: There is a fairly easy crystal filter swap kit available for the Mitreks from Communications Specialists for $25.00. And .0002% channel elements are also available (KXN1112A for RX, KXN1095A for TX - you really only need to meet the TX stability...) Anyone got a source for the above? I have an MSR2000 that's in an unconditioned space I need a transmit and recieve element for. If all you want is a transmit element do a search on ebay with: (knx-1095*,kxn1095*) The parentheses and the comma set up an OR condition, the asterisk allows a 1095, 1095A, 1095B, etc to be found, and because the first one has a - in it you need to have it in quotes (normally the - is used as an exception... if you were to type in this: coat wool -brown you would show all wool coats except the brown ones. If you want both transmit and receive elements use this: (knx-1095*,kxn1095*, knx-1112*,kxn1112*) Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Outdoor Enclosure
I've got a GE outdoor cabinet...but I am not east of the Mississippi. I'm not far west of it either if you don't mind heading to the DFW area. It's a 6' cabinet. On Jan 23, 2008 11:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Our club has been given space on top of a local office building, free of charge, the only problem is that the space is outside on a raised platform. Our club is in need of an Outdoor repeater enclosure, prefferably in the 6' range but would settle for a 3' cabinet. Other than buying brand new, I was wondering if anyone here on the reflector might have one collecting dust, that they might want to get rid of for a reasonable price. The club is located in MD, but I have no problem taking a weekend to come and get it if one is available East of the Mississippi. Thanks, Dan KA8YPY Dan talk with your Power Electric company or one of your electrical contractors. You would be surprised at what they have. Good luck. Rod kc7vqr
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We? Who else are speaking for? I've submitted this question to the FCC for clarification. We'll see what they say if they actually get back to me (they usually don't). Gary uh-'We' as users/radio people.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary You're not talking about the Part 90 narrowbanding? Part 95 (GMRS) does not have to narrowband. The 12.5 tertiaries are NB, but the normal channels can stay as they are.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer
Tom Manning and Group, Sorry about that, I just saw your request for the dimensions on the DB 220 MHz antenna I have. Sometimes the Yahoo group messages get lost in the cyber bit bucket, sometimes I get the messages but several days late. If you can't get that info from Doug let me know and I will measure my antenna and post it here. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Tom Manning Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer To all who may be interested in DB antenna dipole dimensiomsion I have info/ dimsions on all vhf, 220 and uhf band dipoles.Email me off list at de_n3dab at tds dot net and I will forward the info to you. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Tom Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hello Paul Would you do us a favor by making very careful measurements on the antenna and putting the info on the Repeater-Builder group. Several of us would like to modify commercial DB-224 antennas to cover 220Mhz. Skip May and I have attempted to get this done before and have not been successful. Thanks greatly. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer Told us what we already knew! I just got an older 220 MHz DB antenna, before it goes up I will disassemble it and tighten all screws, nuts and terminals, reassemble it and goop with Scotchkoat before going up the tower. I have 8 antennas of my own on my tower and as of December of this year have been up there for 10 years with no problems. Also, I may add, the tower will be paid off in two months! There will be a celebration! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:48 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer I sent the following request to 3M: What's the proper solvent for removing uncured Scotchkote electrical coating? What can be used to remove cured material from wires or other surfaces? Their reply is below. Hey, it's better than nothing. Thank you for contacting 3M. We don't make solvents to remove Scotchkote and any solvent that is used could damage whatever the Scotchkote is spilled on. For uncured Scotchkote, you might use MEK or Acetone. These solvents are in the uncured Scotchkote so might help to remove it. If it has cured, there isn't any product that we could suggest. Best Regards. 3M Electrical Markets Division Technical Support www.3m.com/electrical All statements, technical information, and recommendations related to 3M's products are based on information believed to be reliable, but the accuracy or completeness is not guaranteed. Before using this product, you must evaluate it and determine if it is suitable for your intended application. You assume all risks and liability associated with such use. Any statements related to the product which are not contained in 3M's current publications, or any contrary statements contained on your purchase order shall have no force or effect unless expressly agreed upon, in writing, by an authorized officer of 3M. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
Gary, A mobile relay station is defined as a device that relays mobile traffic (i.e., a repeater). A fixed station is simply a base station, at a fixed location, manually controlled by an operator. This is standard across FCC controlled communications and is not GMRS specific. LMR repeaters are commonly licensed with a station class of FB2, which the FCC designates as mobile relay. A fixed base station would be classified as FB under an FCC license. When a system will have a fixed base operating through a repeater you'll have both FB and FB2 on the license. Hopefully that clears it up. On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:08:20 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We? Who else are speaking for? I've submitted this question to the FCC for clarification. We'll see what they say if they actually get back to me (they usually don't). Gary wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: CFR title 47 is available on the FCC's website for all to view. 95.135(a) reads No station may transmit with more than 50 watts output power. Subpart (d) reads A fixed station must transmit with no more than 15 watts output power. 95.25 further defines land stations. My suggestion to the anonymous member is to read the rules and contact the FCC for any needed clarification as they have the final word. Gary fixed station refers to what we would call 'control stations'. Repeaters and base stations can run 50W.
[Repeater-Builder] Gmrs Repeater
I can't imagine why you'd want to go to the trouble of building a GMRS repeater. Two years ago I purchased a Motorola Desktrac UHF, tuned it up and set it up. Works fine -- no hassles. It is a little more power than I need so I'm about to replace it with a Ritron Patriot box. I can't remember to the penny but I don't think I paid more than $325 for the repeater, duplexer and programming. I like the easy way. Jack w3fun -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Narrow band is only required on the interstitial channels (those that fall between the repeater pairs) along with the reduced power requirements, but I don't believe the FCC would have any problem if were were to narrow band a repeater. However transient users and other may have a problem ,radio wise, in using it unless it is a private or closed system. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary Richard Bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just wanted to add my 2 cents here. I have been working the last ... 2 years on building a GMRS repeater out of two Motorola Mitrek's and a single M controller. If I had one word of advice, buy a commercial one! Save yourself alot of frustration and money on the tools needed to build it. These have been looking real good to me recently: http://www.gmrsoutlet.com/home.php?cat=1 Regards, Richard Bessey wd8chl wrote: Gary wrote: CFR title 47 is available on the FCC's website for all to view. 95.135(a) reads No station may transmit with more than 50 watts output power. Subpart (d) reads A fixed station must transmit with no more than 15 watts output power. 95.25 further defines land stations. My suggestion to the anonymous member is to read the rules and contact the FCC for any needed clarification as they have the final word. Gary fixed station refers to what we would call 'control stations'. Repeaters and base stations can run 50W. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Vibrasponder needed
I'm looking for a 100.0 Hz Vibrasponder for a MSR-2000 PL Module TRN5075A. Can anyone help? Hap Griffin WZ4O
[Repeater-Builder] duplexers
I wish to take an interest at American HAM's how much actually now to sell new duplexers in the USA. My company makes antennas and duplexers for a professional radio communication. Your opinion interests, I was not late for 20 years?) Evgeny, IK-Telecom
Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers
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[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Channel Elements
Hello All, I just came off the RB web site and either missed what I was looking for or just didn't find it. It is written very clear with regard to the transmit elements that you can't swap crystals from the KXN1088 to the KXN1095. Does this hold true on the receive elements, KXN1086B and KXN1112A? I have a crystal that was ordered for a KXN1086B but just came across a KXN1112A element. Thanks in advance! Adam N2ACF
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Gmrs Repeater
I can't imagine why you'd want to go to the trouble of building a GMRS repeater. It's for the education, experience and pride in putting something together and getting it to work. It also for ththe frustration and fun that goes along with it. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Jack Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = I can't imagine why you'd want to go to the trouble of building a GMRS repeater. Two years ago I purchased a Motorola Desktrac UHF, tuned it up and set it up. Works fine -- no hassles. It is a little more power than I need so I'm about to replace it with a Ritron Patriot box. I can't remember to the penny but I don't think I paid more than $325 for the repeater, duplexer and programming. I like the easy way. Jack w3fun -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Narrow band is only required on the interstitial channels (those that fall between the repeater pairs) along with the reduced power requirements, but I don't believe the FCC would have any problem if were were to narrow band a repeater. However transient users and other may have a problem ,radio wise, in using it unless it is a private or closed system. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary Richard Bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just wanted to add my 2 cents here. I have been working the last ... 2 years on building a GMRS repeater out of two Motorola Mitrek's and a single M controller. If I had one word of advice, buy a commercial one! Save yourself alot of frustration and money on the tools needed to build it. These have been looking real good to me recently: http://www.gmrsoutlet.com/home.php?cat=1 Regards, Richard Bessey wd8chl wrote: Gary wrote: CFR title 47 is available on the FCC's website for all to view. 95.135(a) reads No station may transmit with more than 50 watts output power. Subpart (d) reads A fixed station must transmit with no more than 15 watts output power. 95.25 further defines land stations. My suggestion to the anonymous member is to read the rules and contact the FCC for any needed clarification as they have the final word. Gary fixed station refers to what we would call 'control stations'. Repeaters and base stations can run 50W. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] RC110 Group
Anyone know who runs the RC110 yahoo group? I've been trying to sign up but it seems it requires approval.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 Group
Ken Arck... DCFluX wrote: Anyone know who runs the RC110 yahoo group? I've been trying to sign up but it seems it requires approval. -- Jay Urish W5GM ex. KB5VPS ARRL Life MemberDenton County ARRL VEC N5ERS VP/Trustee Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5 146.92 PL-110.9
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
I wrote NARROWER GMRS SPECS. I did not write narrowband. After more study I see some possible contridictions in the rules as currently written for example, F3E/G3E GMRS emissions (probably the most common) are limited to 20Khz bandwidth but at the same time those emission types are also limited to +/-5Khz peak dev. I suspect the FCC doesn't really give a damn these days especially with rebanding, auctions, and now a congressional investigation on their doorstep. Gary wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary You're not talking about the Part 90 narrowbanding? Part 95 (GMRS) does not have to narrowband. The 12.5 tertiaries are NB, but the normal channels can stay as they are. Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
Gary, 5 kHz deviation with a 3 kHz audio cutoff creates a signal at least 13 kHz wide, counting only the first set of sidebands. That's why many states went from 15 kHz to a 20 kHz channel bandplan on 2m a few years ago. There's nothing inconsistent in the FCC imposing both limits. 73, Paul, AE4KR _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater I wrote NARROWER GMRS SPECS. I did not write narrowband. After more study I see some possible contridictions in the rules as currently written for example, F3E/G3E GMRS emissions (probably the most common) are limited to 20Khz bandwidth but at the same time those emission types are also limited to +/-5Khz peak dev. I suspect the FCC doesn't really give a damn these days especially with rebanding, auctions, and now a congressional investigation on their doorstep. Gary wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.com com wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:n6lrv%40cox.net wrote: Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary You're not talking about the Part 90 narrowbanding? Part 95 (GMRS) does not have to narrowband. The 12.5 tertiaries are NB, but the normal channels can stay as they are. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
Thanks for that background info. I suppose that's one way to look at it but in my experience a mobile relay station now carries a different definition from the FCC as shown in Part 90.7 for example. They also define a fixed relay station so while at one time the term 'mobile relay station' may have passed as any repeater I wonder if they take a different position today. Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, A mobile relay station is defined as a device that relays mobile traffic (i.e., a repeater). A fixed station is simply a base station, at a fixed location, manually controlled by an operator. This is standard across FCC controlled communications and is not GMRS specific. LMR repeaters are commonly licensed with a station class of FB2, which the FCC designates as mobile relay. A fixed base station would be classified as FB under an FCC license. When a system will have a fixed base operating through a repeater you'll have both FB and FB2 on the license. Hopefully that clears it up. On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:08:20 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We? Who else are speaking for? I've submitted this question to the FCC for clarification. We'll see what they say if they actually get back to me (they usually don't). Gary wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: CFR title 47 is available on the FCC's website for all to view. 95.135(a) reads No station may transmit with more than 50 watts output power. Subpart (d) reads A fixed station must transmit with no more than 15 watts output power. 95.25 further defines land stations. My suggestion to the anonymous member is to read the rules and contact the FCC for any needed clarification as they have the final word. Gary fixed station refers to what we would call 'control stations'. Repeaters and base stations can run 50W. Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
Paul, the underlying and unexpected contridiction here was not between 15Khz vs. 20Khz channel spacing but instead between 20Khz and 25Khz channels more commonly found on UHF which as you know is where GMRS resides. Historically there's more than enough guard between channels to compensate for slight overdeviation or slight drift off channel but now everybody wants to tighten things up so new gear is coming stock with 4Khz max dev associated with 20Khz channels vs. 5Khz dev which we've all enjoyed for years on 25/30Khz channels. Seems a bit odd of them to expect no interference problems from +/-5Khz peak dev on a 20Khz max channel but it is better for us users to have the option I suppose. Gary Paul Plack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, 5 kHz deviation with a 3 kHz audio cutoff creates a signal at least 13 kHz wide, counting only the first set of sidebands. That's why many states went from 15 kHz to a 20 kHz channel bandplan on 2m a few years ago. There's nothing inconsistent in the FCC imposing both limits. 73, Paul, AE4KR _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater I wrote NARROWER GMRS SPECS. I did not write narrowband. After more study I see some possible contridictions in the rules as currently written for example, F3E/G3E GMRS emissions (probably the most common) are limited to 20Khz bandwidth but at the same time those emission types are also limited to +/-5Khz peak dev. I suspect the FCC doesn't really give a damn these days especially with rebanding, auctions, and now a congressional investigation on their doorstep. Gary wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.com com wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:n6lrv%40cox.net wrote: Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary You're not talking about the Part 90 narrowbanding? Part 95 (GMRS) does not have to narrowband. The 12.5 tertiaries are NB, but the normal channels can stay as they are. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
Note also that a 0.005% frequency tolerance is 3 times as big at 450 MHz as it is at 150, hence the wider channel spacing that has been used on UHF in the past. -Bob N3HAT On Jan 24, 2008 5:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, the underlying and unexpected contridiction here was not between 15Khz vs. 20Khz channel spacing but instead between 20Khz and 25Khz channels more commonly found on UHF which as you know is where GMRS resides. Historically there's more than enough guard between channels to compensate for slight overdeviation or slight drift off channel but now everybody wants to tighten things up so new gear is coming stock with 4Khz max dev associated with 20Khz channels vs. 5Khz dev which we've all enjoyed for years on 25/30Khz channels. Seems a bit odd of them to expect no interference problems from +/-5Khz peak dev on a 20Khz max channel but it is better for us users to have the option I suppose. Gary Paul Plack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, 5 kHz deviation with a 3 kHz audio cutoff creates a signal at least 13 kHz wide, counting only the first set of sidebands. That's why many states went from 15 kHz to a 20 kHz channel bandplan on 2m a few years ago. There's nothing inconsistent in the FCC imposing both limits. 73, Paul, AE4KR _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater I wrote NARROWER GMRS SPECS. I did not write narrowband. After more study I see some possible contridictions in the rules as currently written for example, F3E/G3E GMRS emissions (probably the most common) are limited to 20Khz bandwidth but at the same time those emission types are also limited to +/-5Khz peak dev. I suspect the FCC doesn't really give a damn these days especially with rebanding, auctions, and now a congressional investigation on their doorstep. Gary wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.com com wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:n6lrv%40cox.net wrote: Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so making them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I wonder if a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance. Gary You're not talking about the Part 90 narrowbanding? Part 95 (GMRS) does not have to narrowband. The 12.5 tertiaries are NB, but the normal channels can stay as they are. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
I should clarify that I was referring to new commercial gear coming stock with 4Khz dev on 20Khz channels as one of the selectable bandwidths per channel. So far as I know most new VHF/UHF amateur gear these days is user selectable as either wideband or narrowband. I'm working more today with the newer Moto stuff (Astro, Pro, and Mototrbo) and don't keep up on the amateur gear as much I used to. Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, the underlying and unexpected contridiction here was not between 15Khz vs. 20Khz channel spacing but instead between 20Khz and 25Khz channels more commonly found on UHF which as you know is where GMRS resides. Historically there's more than enough guard between channels to compensate for slight overdeviation or slight drift off channel but now everybody wants to tighten things up so new gear is coming stock with 4Khz max dev associated with 20Khz channels vs. 5Khz dev which we've all enjoyed for years on 25/30Khz channels. Seems a bit odd of them to expect no interference problems from +/-5Khz peak dev on a 20Khz max channel but it is better for us users to have the option I suppose. Gary
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Vibrasponder needed
Hi; Will a Motorola TLN6824A Vibrasender work? I have one! Bill --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, hapgriffin01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a 100.0 Hz Vibrasponder for a MSR-2000 PL Module TRN5075A. Can anyone help? Hap Griffin WZ4O
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor Vibraspondor TLN8381A 2Z 110.9 Hz
Hi; Will a Motorola KLN6210A Vibrasender work? I have one! Bill --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: swellesleys wrote: We are looking for a Motorola Micor Vibraspondor TLN8381A 2Z 110.9 Hz for use with our local repeater - K8VJ/R. Please email me if you have one you would like to sell. TNX Steve N8AR Just a friendly note-watch out if your repeater is on 2M. NE Ohio has used 110.9 for 2M repeaters since the early 70's. If you are on 2M, I suggest using another tone. Like wise, for UHF, stay away from 131.8.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor UHF repeater manual
If you guys had some common sense and try searching for the products you need, you would'nt have to wait for someone elses answer. Further the more, you can do exactly what your asking someone else to do. . . http://www.wiscomm.com/manuals.htm http://idenphones.motorola.com/iden/support/support_product_manuals_ma in.jsp . . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, avelectron1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for any manuals pertaining to the Micor UHF repeaters. My specific model # is B84RCB-3106AT. Motorola parts says all manuals are NLA...not sure I believe them but thought I'd see if anyone has any available also. Thanks, Matt/KY5O
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Vibrasponder
I have a: # TLN8381A If anyone has a need for it?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor UHF repeater manual
Matt and Group, I will be taking a bunch of Motorola manuals to Dayton, if you are there look me up. Besides the manuals I will have several Micor base stations, the 100 watt variety as well as test bench equipment like Motorola test panels, cables and things like that. I do not know my slot numbers but will let everyone know when I find out. Will also have a few GE Mastr II desktop base stations that are great for low power backyard repeater service. Contact me directly if interested and I will keep you informed. Moderators, if this is a No no let me know. Thanks, Paul WB5IDM -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor UHF repeater manual If you guys had some common sense and try searching for the products you need, you would'nt have to wait for someone elses answer. Further the more, you can do exactly what your asking someone else to do. . . http://www.wiscomm.com/manuals.htm http://idenphones.motorola.com/iden/support/support_product_manuals_ma in.jsp . . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, avelectron1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for any manuals pertaining to the Micor UHF repeaters. My specific model # is B84RCB-3106AT. Motorola parts says all manuals are NLA...not sure I believe them but thought I'd see if anyone has any available also. Thanks, Matt/KY5O Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Temp Control Circuit
I've been searching for a very simple circuit that could turn on a, maybe, 10 watt resistor at 12 volts, when the temperature drops to perhaps 30F or so. Anyone have a reliable favorite? Laryn K8TVZ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor UHF repeater manual
Kinda harsh with the common sense card Randy, maybe you didn't intend it the way it read. Thanks for helping him out though. Everybody starts somewhere. 73 Don W5DK From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor UHF repeater manual If you guys had some common sense and try searching for the products you need, you would'nt have to wait for someone elses answer. Further the more, you can do exactly what your asking someone else to do. . . http://www.wiscomm.com/manuals.htm http://idenphones.motorola.com/iden/support/support_product_manuals_ma in.jsp . . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com , avelectron1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for any manuals pertaining to the Micor UHF repeaters. My specific model # is B84RCB-3106AT. Motorola parts says all manuals are NLA...not sure I believe them but thought I'd see if anyone has any available also. Thanks, Matt/KY5O
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Gmrs Repeater
Jack Hayes wrote: I can't imagine why you'd want to go to the trouble of building a GMRS repeater. Two years ago I purchased a Motorola Desktrac UHF, tuned it up and set it up. Works fine -- no hassles. It is a little more power than I need so I'm about to replace it with a Ritron Patriot box. I can't remember to the penny but I don't think I paid more than $325 for the repeater, duplexer and programming. I like the easy way. Jack w3fun Do either of them make 50 watts? Also neither of those has a receiver that can handle high-level RF sites, especially the Riton. It's fine for in a small plant, or at your house, but I wouldn't put one up at a busy high-profile site... The Desktrac? well, maybe...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Vibrasponder needed
I understand that the Vibrasender is not as sensitive in receive apps as a Vibrasponder. However, somone undoubtedly knows more about this than I do. Hap WZ4O - Original Message - From: William Sebastian To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Vibrasponder needed Hi; Will a Motorola TLN6824A Vibrasender work? I have one! Bill --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, hapgriffin01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a 100.0 Hz Vibrasponder for a MSR-2000 PL Module TRN5075A. Can anyone help? Hap Griffin WZ4O
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should clarify that I was referring to new commercial gear coming stock with 4Khz dev on 20Khz channels as one of the selectable bandwidths per channel. Educated guess-that's probably for the 800MHz NPSPAC channels. They are slightly narrower assignments, with +/-4KHz dev total. I think they are 11K3 instead of 12K5 emission...?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, the underlying and unexpected contridiction here was not between 15Khz vs. 20Khz channel spacing but instead between 20Khz and 25Khz channels more commonly found on UHF which as you know is where GMRS resides. Historically there's more than enough guard between channels to compensate for slight overdeviation or slight drift off channel but now everybody wants to tighten things up so new gear is coming stock with 4Khz max dev associated with 20Khz channels vs. 5Khz dev which we've all enjoyed for years on 25/30Khz channels. Seems a bit odd of them to expect no interference problems from +/-5Khz peak dev on a 20Khz max channel but it is better for us users to have the option I suppose. Gary Huh? GMRS channels are still spaced 25 KHz apart. If someone is making radios with 20KHz spacing, they are illegal-in the US...
