RE: [Repeater-Builder] manual search motorola r2210b

2008-04-13 Thread ka9qjg
 
 
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Good Luck 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wacom 642 (coax connector stories...)

2008-04-13 Thread sgreact47
skipp025  wrote:

   Oh yes I remember Hank well,  when Phelps Dodge had a 
   warehouse in So. California. Really a great guy.  Wonder 
   what ever became of Hank with
   the company changes?
 
 Retired after doing a few different things. Lost track of him 
 in the early 90's but was happy and healthy at last word. 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 


Skipp
Thank you for the the information,

Will




Re: [Repeater-Builder] PLL and PIC programming

2008-04-13 Thread Nate Duehr

On Apr 12, 2008, at 6:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I hate the fact that I’m announcing this, but I’m looking for some  
 assistance with PIC, STAMP, whatever programming and learning how to  
 read what some one else already put on an IC. At a club meeting a  
 few years ago, the pres at the time did a presentation about PIC  
 microcontrollers and gave a demo. He showed us that it either was 64  
 lines or pages of code to turn a little LED on and off with a  
 momentary push button and I thought was a waste of time to put that  
 much effort into perform such a simple task…. Open mount, insert  
 foot. (how many lines of code do you think the ASIMO programmers  
 have to write to make it the damn thing turn it’s head one degree?)

Why do you hate it?  You're just asking for help with something new.

First, I'll say that for my taste you're going about it backwards --  
you need to decide if the phones you're using can even be brought into  
the ham bands by analyzing and controlling them manually and measuring  
their performance in the band, before worrying about how you're going  
to control their features/gadgets.  If the RF deck in the phone wasn't  
designed for the ham band, you have some serious modifications ahead  
of you and studying of the components on the board and the service  
manuals to even see if the device will go to ham frequencies.  I  
wouldn't even THINK about working on the digital user-interface or  
control circuits, until you know the basic RADIO will do what you  
want.   But, with that said... I'll move on to microcontrollers and  
such.

What he was probably showing you was programming the PIC  
microcontroller in Assembly Language.  Every single thing the chip  
does is accessible to you at this low-level language, down to  
individual bits and any low-level math functions.  (When was the last  
time you did mathematical division -- for example -- by writing a loop  
that looked at an individual address spaces holding two numbers  
represented in binary, and then did addition (or subtraction -- which  
is really only backwards bit-wise abddition in CPU's) to individual  
bits at a time, while also having another loop moving in and out of  
memory locations using an 8 bit binary scheme?  That's low-level  
Assembly programming!  Remember, digital logic is at it's lowest- 
level, just a giant bunch of transistor switches that can be set to on  
or off... 1 or 0 in programmer's language.)

Writing in Assembly is both old-school these days, and also the  
only way to learn it right, so to speak.  But... with that said,  
there's PLENTY of people who've never programmed a microcontroller in  
a low-level language like Assembly.  They'll never know if the program  
the high-level language's compiler is right nor can the tell if it  
uses the chip in the most optimized way, saving the VERY limited  
program memory and on-board flash on these tiny little processors --  
but with higher level languages you can write code for  
microcontrollers in BASIC, C/C++, etc.  There are also some people  
who've written complete special languages that make it easier to  
write simple code for a microcontroller.

There are a MULTITUDE of 8-bit and larger microcontrollers on the  
market nowadays.  Most hobby applications use the Microchip PIC and/or  
the Atmel AVR types, but there are others... each specializing in  
market niches.  Both Microchip and Atmel have cheap/non-production  
programmers that often double as in-circuit serial debuggers when  
using the right chips (a feature where the chip supports special  
instructions where the developer can literally step through his low- 
level code one line at a time and see what the circuit does *IF* you  
used their free Assembly language/C tools.).

A couple of places to start:

Of course, the manufacturers:
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGEnodeId=74 
 
http://www.atmel.com/products/avr/default.asp

(Those are the links for only the 8-bit microcontroller products, both  
companies now have product lines all the way up to 32-bit  
architectures.)

Community sites:
http://www.piclist.com
http://www.avrfreaks.net
http://forums.microchip.com

I originally stopped programming in Assembly in the 1980's, and then  
came back to it in microcontrollers much later, for fun -- other  
than messing with the types of things you mentioned above, blink an  
LED and the like I didn't really do a whole lot productive with  
them, but it reminded me of the simpler days of computing... when  
all you had was an 8-bit microprocessor and a very tiny amount of RAM.

Today, to accomplish things in a reasonable amount of time as a hobby,  
you have to realize that the amount of coding effort to make a  
microcontroller (without an HLL or... high-level language) is not  
trivial!  If you're unfamilar with microcontrollers, you'd better lay  
out a plan to work through things like blink an LED and build that  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 problem

2008-04-13 Thread Chuck Kelsey
They are fed in phase, but if one is upside down, that element is out of 
phase with the others.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 problem


I thought all the elements were fed in phase...

 Joe M.

 Eric Lemmon wrote:
 And yes, one element fed out-of-phase will screw up the pattern.

 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 problem

2008-04-13 Thread Jim Brown
I once inherited a DB-224 that the shop had discovered was not performing as it 
should.  A new antenna fixed the coverage problem the first antenna had.  When 
I got the antenna, I discovered that one of the elements had been inverted.  
When I installed the antenna I turned that element back to match the other 
elements and it worked just fine.

As an aside, I helped a buddy build a couple of six meter four element beams 
and when he installed them, the performance was miserable.  When I got a look 
at the installation I could tell that the gamma feed on one antenna was on one 
side of the boom and the other side on the other boom.  When the lower antenna 
was flipped over to match the upper antenna the stacked beams worked fine.

For the pattern of the individual elements to sum properly at a remote site for 
these types of antennas, the elements must all be fed in phase.  Inverting an 
element or reversing the gamma feed causes the elements involved to be out of 
phase with the other elements in the antenna.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

R. K. Brumback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
  After a day of work putting together and putting up a DB224E in the 138-150 
range I found the thing to be resonate at 150 MHZ center.  After a few colorful 
metaphors, I find I turned one of the elements upside down with the feed at the 
bottom. Would this be enough to throw the antenna off balance or should I look 
for problems somewhere else also? I get a 2.0 SWR at 146.000.  I don’t mind a 
second trip up the tower to turn the element around (it’s the lower element), 
but that third trip would do me in!
  Randy B.
  W4CPT
  
 



  
  

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[Repeater-Builder] S-COM 7330 Triple Repeater Controller

2008-04-13 Thread scomind
Hi All,
 
I'm very pleased to announce that after nine months of beta testing,  the new 
S-COM 7330 Triple Repeater Controller is in production and available for  
sale!
 
A total of 66 units were tested by 54 repeater owners, and the results fed  
back to the design team of five engineers (four of whom are hams). The  
resulting five code upgrades added features and fixed minor bugs, and were 
found  to 
be easy to install in flash memory via the high-speed (57.6K) serial  port.
 
(My personal and quite biased view is that this thing is heads and  shoulders 
above any of our previous controllers, extremely competitive, and  only in 
its infancy due to the large amount of available memory -- and matching  
wishlist of future improvements... :-)
 
We're calling it a triple repeater controller to differentiate it  from 
three port controllers that cannot operate three  repeaters totally 
independently. That is, the 7330 will run three  repeaters, links, or other 
radio 
configurations connected in any fashion, as  you'd expect. But it can also send 
different messages (CW,  digitally recorded audio, beeps, or paging tones) to 
all 
three  transmitters at the same time, have different access modes for each 
RX-TX  
path, and much more. In fact, each repeater will think it has its own  
controller, since there's three of everything -- three DTMF decoders,  three 
dual-tone CW/beep/paging generators, three digital audio players, three  CTCSS 
encoders with reverse burst, three digital audio delays, and plenty  of 
additional 
features.
 
We've placed the V1.0 user manual, schematics, a white paper on the design  
philosophy, and other materials on the website, _www.scomcontrollers.com_ 
(http://www.scomcontrollers.com) , for all to  peruse.
 
Oh, yeah, the price: $459 plus $15 for shipping, and that INCLUDES the  1U 
rackmount cabinet with a 28-LED display.
 
As always, thanks for the BW, Kevin.
 
73,
Bob
 
Bob Schmid,  WA9FBO, EE/Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO  80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222  fax
www.scomcontrollers.com



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect

2008-04-13 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Paul,

Could you please forward a copy of it to Mike Morris for publication to the 
Repeater-Builder site?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Scott
   Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect


I do. Contact direct

K.Paul Boggs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mountain Emergency Communications


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  From: ve5fn 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: 4/12/2008 1:50:23 PM 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect


  HELP! Does anyone have access to the manual for this beast? Our club 
  has acquired one without a manual.

  73 .. Bill
  VE5FN



 





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[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 problem

2008-04-13 Thread Kruser
Below is some information on the antenna setup. As I said earlier, I 
have one element upside down. I do need to know one other thing!
Around the pole I have the elements at 90 degrees from each other as 
this is a top mount and not on the side! Is this a problem?? 

The antenna is top mounted on Rohn 45 tower and the elements spaced 
at 90 degrees from each other around the pole. Spacing going up the 
pole is according to the diagram from the files of this site. Factory 
harness which measures out ok for the band and has markings of 11 and 
I think maybe 83 which I suppose indicate 50 and 75 ohm cable. The 
antenna is used but I have checked all connections and fittings. I 
will change the element around on Monday but for some reason I am 
second guessing myself on the 90 degree turn. Should it be 180 
degrees and is so which elements line up? My knowledge is limited 
when it comes to antennas.
Randy
W4CPT
  
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 To me, I wouldn't have expected it to have thrown things that far 
out of whack - except for what it's doing to the pattern. But these 
things can fool you. Is it top mounted or side mounted? 
Configuration - omni or other? Any guy wires near it?
 
 In any event, report back with results after you correct the upside-
down element..
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
   - Original Message - 
   From: R. K. Brumback 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
   Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:05 PM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 problem
 
 
   After a day of work putting together and putting up a DB224E in 
the 138-150 range I found the thing to be resonate at 150 MHZ 
center.  After a few colorful metaphors, I find I turned one of the 
elements upside down with the feed at the bottom. Would this be 
enough to throw the antenna off balance or should I look for problems 
somewhere else also? I get a 2.0 SWR at 146.000.  I don't mind a 
second trip up the tower to turn the element around (it's the lower 
element), but that third trip would do me in!
 
   Randy B.
 
   W4CPT





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 problem

2008-04-13 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 04:50 PM 4/13/2008, you wrote:
Below is some information on the antenna setup. As I said earlier, I
have one element upside down. I do need to know one other thing!
Around the pole I have the elements at 90 degrees from each other as
this is a top mount and not on the side! Is this a problem??

Fear not, grasshopper ...
According to DB documentation, setting the bays at 90 degrees on a 
top-mounted install is correct.

Larry
N5WLW 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Suitcase Repeater

2008-04-13 Thread Butch Kanvick

Do you have a picture you can share with us?
 
Does the interconnecting cable have three white molex double row connectors 
where something would plug in?
 
It is possibly a encryption box.
 
Butch, KE7FEL/r
 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:37:57 
+Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Suitcase Repeater




Has anyone ever seen one of these. I aquired one, it has what looks like a 
rangr UHF radio with a sinclair duplexer on the same case a powere supply (120v 
and 12v) a 990 control head and one missing component. I dont know what is 
missing and havent had any luck finding info on it. It was a RCMP piece and was 
sold as surplus but someone took something out before getting rid of it.  







Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 problem

2008-04-13 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Orienting the elements as you have indicated is fine - like North, East, 
South, West (except they don't have to actually point those compass 
directions).

I remain concerned about the resonance and VSWR. It will be interesting to 
see if flipping the upside-down element fixes this problem. I won't be 
surprised if it doesn't, but for your sake, I hope that's all it is.

You didn't say what kind of feedline and how long the run is. I'm assuming 
that the VSWR reading was taken in the shack. However, if there's a lot of 
line loss, and the VSWR was taken on the ground, you could actually have a 
worse VSWR than you think.

Chuck
WB2EDV




- Original Message - 
From: Kruser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 problem


 Below is some information on the antenna setup. As I said earlier, I
 have one element upside down. I do need to know one other thing!
 Around the pole I have the elements at 90 degrees from each other as
 this is a top mount and not on the side! Is this a problem??

 The antenna is top mounted on Rohn 45 tower and the elements spaced
 at 90 degrees from each other around the pole. Spacing going up the
 pole is according to the diagram from the files of this site. Factory
 harness which measures out ok for the band and has markings of 11 and
 I think maybe 83 which I suppose indicate 50 and 75 ohm cable. The
 antenna is used but I have checked all connections and fittings. I
 will change the element around on Monday but for some reason I am
 second guessing myself on the 90 degree turn. Should it be 180
 degrees and is so which elements line up? My knowledge is limited
 when it comes to antennas.
 Randy
 W4CPT




[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 problem

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen Reynolds
All DB224E's that I have ordered many years ago, were Offset pattern 
(all elements on one side of the pole) and none required assembly 
except plugging one 12ft section into the other, tighten two radiator 
hose clamps and connecting the center phasing harness connectors 
together and weatherproofing.  Order just a 224 and you get elements at 
90 degrees from one another.  This is good for Top mount on a tower, 
for side mount you want the antenna at least 2-3feet from Rhon 25 and 4-
5 feet from Rhon 45 if you are looking for a mostly Omni pattern.  
Offset on a side mount gives you a killer 12db frontal lobe with a 3db 
backlobe, as was originally on the first Sawnee Mountain Machine I 
built way back in the late 70's.  Never had inverted emements, hot side 
was always up.
Good Luck
Steve W4CNG



[Repeater-Builder] Vocom/Crescend Technologies UVC50-xxRF Power Amplifier

2008-04-13 Thread Tony L.
Anyone have a service manual for this unit?

I need to know what type of final transistors are used, and what the 
driver transistor is.  We want to buy some spares, just in case.

There is no manual posted on repater-builder.com.

Thanks.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Vocom/Crescend Technologies UVC50-xxRF Power Amplifier

2008-04-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tony,

All of the information you need is available from the manufacturer,  Contact
Crescend Technologies at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by phone at
800-872-6233.  The manual is available for purchase.  Due to copyright
restrictions, manuals that are still in print will not be posted for
download on the Repeater-Builder site.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony L.
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Vocom/Crescend Technologies UVC50-xxRF Power
Amplifier

Anyone have a service manual for this unit?

I need to know what type of final transistors are used, and what the 
driver transistor is. We want to buy some spares, just in case.

There is no manual posted on repeater-builder.com.

Thanks.



[Repeater-Builder] Mhw710-3

2008-04-13 Thread Kerincom
Hi to everyone.Would anyone have the above IC for sale or know where we can
purchase it
 
Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
 

[Repeater-Builder] Old Motorola RSS without a 486 PC

2008-04-13 Thread Cort Buffington
Fellow Builders,

I don't recall hearing about his here. I did not check ancient  
archives, please don't flame me if you all know about it already :)

Tonight I successfully programmed an OLD Radius SM50 with OLD RSS that  
requires an OLD (like 486 or thereabouts) PC. I've heard there are a  
lot of older RSS packages that weren't updated to run on newer  
machines. Realizing that gamers had the same issue, I started seeking  
out old PC gaming emulators and found DOSBox. It works like a champ.  
How well does it work? I did the programming from my Mac laptop using  
the OS X port after trying it first on the PC.

Hope that helps someone somewhere along the line.

73 DE N0MJS

--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-838-3034
M: +1-785-865-7206






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mhw710-3

2008-04-13 Thread neal Newman

Try Legend Electronics

140 Old Saw Mill River Road S
Hawthorne, NY 10532
Fax: (914) 747-1770
Tel: (914) 747-1777
Monday to Friday
8:00am to 7:00pm EST   

Its a motorola RF Brick( module)

or you can try 
   
Accord Technologies, Inc.
2515 Elwood Dr. #106
Ames, IA 50010
Phone:515-268-0578
Fax: 515-296-1082

Seems RF Parts Only carrys the mhw-710-2  not the 3


 Neal

--- Kerincom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi to everyone.Would anyone have the above IC for
 sale or know where we can
 purchase it
  
 Thank You,
 Ian Wells,
 Kerinvale Comaudio,
 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
  



  

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