Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-25 Thread Wayne
  I could put the splice in a section of PVC large enough for the  
connectors, depending on the situation.
  I was looking at the cables on the local fire departments tower, and what  
a mess. Cables held in place with chunks of baling wire. One piece of  
cable flopping around in the wind, and no idea as to where it was  
connected.
  There are an odd assorment of antennas up there, including 2 4 bay folded  
dipole assemblies.
  I am joining the Volunteer fire department with an eye to helping with  
communications and other things that I can manage.
  One interesting item, only saw it through a shed window, is a, MTR2000  
and a set of duplexer cans. Hmm, I still have my good old standard  
Motorola key...
  It will be a while before I know what I will or won't be allowed to do.
  Another project may be finding out if the siren on the tower can be  
repaired or not. Could be something simple. That could be top priority.
  The tower itself is 27 meters tall according to the info on the FCC web  
site. maybe 85 feet, give or take...

  If I were to get permission to put my repeater there, and the antenna on  
the side of the tower, I would not be cutting the Heliax other than needed  
there. But would be sure to get something better than baling wire to hold  
it in place, ha ha ha...

  Wayne WA2YNE

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:25:29 -0500, Ralph Messer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Wayne

 If you use the N male female splice you might want to look at how much  
 flexing the cable will get.

 If this cable is 7/8 inch then the flex on the joint can be  
 catastrophic, especially if it is somewhere on a tower.

 I would suggest a pair of EIA flanges to make a good mechanically strong  
 splice.
 Andrew part numbers are L45R

 Ralph
   - Original Message -
   From: Ron Wrightmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To:  
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:54 AM
   Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter


   Wayne,

   One issue on the connectors for reconnecting coax.

   Many make back to back type connectors for this. They are essentially  
 the back end of 2 connectors joined as one piece/connector. Mostly used  
 where a long feedline cannot be placed on one spool and must be joined  
 or for other applications needing a spice.

   Would have lower loss and cost less than two connectors. More reliable  
 also.

   73, ron, nn9ee/r

   From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:wa2yne%40gmail.com
   Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT
   To:  
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.commailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors are  
 good
   parts.
The 4 Heliax connectors I bought with the cable are Andrew  
 connectors.
I'm wondering when the Andrew web site will be back up. Is it based  
 in
   taiwan? I know they had problems there due to a major quake that shut  
 many
   things down.
I have a fairly good assortment on other N connectors, various brands
   that don't give me a real clue as to what cables they were actually  
 made
   for use with.
Some I can usually simply use with whatever size cable jacket fits
   through the gland nut...
I should post a few part nubers and brands later.
   
Wayne WA2YNE
   
   On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:39:48 -0500, Glenn Little WB4UIV
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:glennmaillist%40bellsouth.net  
 wrote:
   
The number before UG-1185/U is a cage code. This identifies who
manufactured the
item.
   
In this case:
   
AMPHENOL AEROSPACE - RF MICROWAVE CONNECTOR OPERATIONS
ONE KENNEDY AVENUE
DANBURY, CT 06810
Cage Code: 74868
Tel.: 1-800-627-7100
   
It is a marked Amphenol connector.
   
73
Glenn
WB4UIV
   
   
   
At 02:30 AM 4/24/2008, Wayne wrote:
   
Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the  
 RG214
jumper.
Connectors are evidently not Amphenol, unless they didn't mark them  
 as
such. The cable says RG214/U. Connectors marked 74868 UG-1185/U  
 Seems to
be good quality.
No leakage that I can tell, and zero resistance from one end to the
other, so should be good to go.
   
Wayne WA2YNE
   
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

2008-04-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

Yep, he did.

The schematics pages in that PDF file are blank (unfortunately it's 
all we have).

A good example of Zetron customer service at its best.

I've heard it from several people - they buy Zetron, they shelve the 
manual.  Several

years later the unit needs repair - maybe they zap a COR input, or something.
They pull the manual off the shelf, and the schematics are blank.  Unhappy
customers tend to make later purchases elsewhere.

Mike

At 12:06 PM 04/24/08, you wrote:

Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore??

http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdfhttp://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jack Davis
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater 
controller?  The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it.


Thanks,
Jack
K6YC


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[Repeater-Builder] spectra radio not dead .....isnt vandalizing amateur radio a federal crime ?

2008-04-25 Thread mikewm9v
a schematic would be nice for this radio
i dont trust the pinouts on the db15 connector
also wondering if control panel with pots for vol and squelch will
work with all chassis 
db 15 connector requires ignition sense for ground and speaker hi lo 
for audio would like to add squelch to front panel .
caps on control board will fix dim display 
caps on rf board near audio ic found leaky 
vco change with silver pen sounds like great idea
ther seems to be a lot of mystique surrounding reprogramming radios 
why doesnt someone come up with a simple usb interface for radios
the spectra interface needs data + data - (inverted) at 5 volts 
data ground and maybe a dsr or cts through other pinouts 
i get this radio is gonna turn into a brick blurb from people




[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 alignment problem

2008-04-25 Thread skipp025
Hi Jim, 

You could run a few in-detail tests to ensure the receiver 
IF Bandwidth looks normal, but I'd try the obvious first. 

A complete receiver realignment using the Service Manual 
Steps, which include pre-setting the inductor cores to the 
charts shown in the book... aka not a re-tweak peak alignment 
from an nearby frequency. The manual also describes how to 
check and properly set the discriminator coil. 

Set the channel element Frequency by looking at the injection 
frequency (using rf leakage) on the receiver board. It will by 
the Frequency of operation offset high or low the IF value. 

Crank the PA way down to about 60-75 watts max output unless 
you don't use it much. 

Use a good service monitor with an adjustable tracking generator 
to set up the duplexer. Check the band-reject notches for proper 
placement and adjust them if they're off. 

If there is nothing mechanically or electronically wrong with 
the repeater, I would suspect and test both the receiver and 
duplexer alignment.  Expect the properly aligned MSR UHF Duplexer 
to output about 45-50 watts when you put in about 60 to 65 watts 
from the PA. 

cheers,
skipp 

 Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a uhf msr2000 which I recently changed frequency to
464.075/469.075. Original freq was about 1.5mhz away. I sent the
elements in and had them re-crystaled.  After I installed them and
tuned up the receiver it worked pretty well for a month.  I noticed it
loosing sensitivity lately so I got out the service monitor to check
sensitivity.  Here is the problem.  If you tune the frequency trimmer
for best quieting you get very scratchy audio.  If you tune for best
audio you loose sensitivity.  I did not bother the discriminator coil
but if it is misaligned will that be my problem?  If aligned for best
quieting it breaks squelch at around .21uv but at best audio recovery
it only makes .8uv.  This is with the generator passing through the
duplexer with the transmitter disabled.  The duplexer is factory
Motorola.  This is a 110 watt intermittent duty repeater and I am
getting 65 watts out of the duplexer.  Does this sound about right for
this machine?
 WB5OXQ





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Control of a Fan

2008-04-25 Thread Terry
Sometimes I have to use mace, or even get a restraining order to
control my fans.



[Repeater-Builder] Delayed PTT on Micor

2008-04-25 Thread georgiaskywarn
I am having an issue with a Micor Station and a RC210.  Don't think it
is the controller though (just for info).  I have done the audio
squelch mod on the v/s board.

When keyed by a signal on the input, I see the controller receive
the COS and CTCSS.  However the PTT is delayed in keying.  This also
varies in length of time to key up.  Sounds like a cap. but not sure
where to look.  Micor squelch circuit seems to be working nicely :-)

Ideas?
Thanks,
Robert
KD4YDC
 



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Delayed PTT on Micor

2008-04-25 Thread georgiaskywarn
Sorry...should have mentioned all cards are pulled except the station
control card.  Mod done on that to.
rb

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am having an issue with a Micor Station and a RC210.  Don't think it
 is the controller though (just for info).  I have done the audio
 squelch mod on the v/s board.
 
 When keyed by a signal on the input, I see the controller receive
 the COS and CTCSS.  However the PTT is delayed in keying.  This also
 varies in length of time to key up.  Sounds like a cap. but not sure
 where to look.  Micor squelch circuit seems to be working nicely :-)
 
 Ideas?
 Thanks,
 Robert
 KD4YDC





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Delayed PTT on Micor

2008-04-25 Thread gerald bishop
Hi- Always been this way? Might some one put a few seconds delay in for 
kurchunk filtering ? Just a tthought . Jerry w8kq

georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am 
having an issue with a Micor Station and a RC210.  Don't think it
 is the controller though (just for info).  I have done the audio
 squelch mod on the v/s board.
 
 When keyed by a signal on the input, I see the controller receive
 the COS and CTCSS.  However the PTT is delayed in keying.  This also
 varies in length of time to key up.  Sounds like a cap. but not sure
 where to look.  Micor squelch circuit seems to be working nicely :-)
 
 Ideas?
 Thanks,
 Robert
 KD4YDC
  
 
 
 
   

   
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Control of a Fan

2008-04-25 Thread John Transue
George,

  Thanks for helping me find those circuits. They do more than I had in
mind, but they probably do what I need to do (instead of what I thought
I need to do).

John

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Control of a Fan

 

There are 2 circuits for fan contollers on the Repeater Builder website
at http://www.repeater
http://www.repeater-builder.com/projects/project-index.html
-builder.com/projects/project-index.html

 

73, 

 

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413

- Original Message - 

From: John Transue mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:56 PM

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Control of a Fan

 

 

I have a fan cooling a remote base transceiver. The fan is on 24/7. I
would like to have the fan on only when the transceiver PTT is active
(active low). Alternatively, I would like to have the fan on only when
the RB is commanded to RX/TX mode. There must be many simple solutions
to this problem, but I am not competent to choose the proper components
and design the circuit. The fan operates on 12 volts and draws 250
milliamps when running, perhaps more at start up. If someone can suggest
a proper transistor and circuit to turn the fan on and off, I'd
appreciate it. Thanks.

 

John

AF4PD

 

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[Repeater-Builder] Still Looking

2008-04-25 Thread n0pnp2002
I'm still looking for the maintenance manual for the Motorola R2008C 
service monitor or the calibration instructions.  Any assistance would 
be appreciated.

- Bill (N0PNP)



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-25 Thread Tony Lelieveld
Ralph,

 

My apologies to you, it was NOT a personal attack.  I was not offended by the 
content but it was the third such message coming through the list server.  As I 
said in my first reply, it was “low speed dial-up 28.8 Kb” frustration showing 
through.  Enough said, no more replies please.

73, Tony VE3DWI

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Ralph Messer
Sent: April 24, 2008 10:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jay Rivenbark; justblonde0419; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; Pat Hartley; Repeater-Builder; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; smesser33
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

 

  



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron 38A Manual

2008-04-25 Thread Peter Burgess
I checked my manual and I have the circuit pages.  I will try and post them 
asap.  Might take a couple of days.

Cheers Peter

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-820 info needed

2008-04-25 Thread n9wys
Here is how I have my CAT-300 connected via the 15-pin accessory plug:

 

1Hook Switch   Must be grounded for unit to
transmit

2TX Mod. input ground

3Direct Modulation Input  This is where your CTCSS and/or DCS
output from your controller would go. (SUB TONE)

4RX Discriminator output  This is the raw receiver carrier, this
is before squelch

5TX Modulation input Transmit audio out of the
controller

6Speaker ground

7Switched B+

8PTT

9Speaker Input This ties to pin 12 to use
internal speaker

10De-Emphasis output   Squelched RX audioDO NOT USE

11GROUND

12Speaker outputRX audio controlled by volume
control

13COR output  I believe this is an active
low

14NC

15NC

 

ALSO:

Remove/Disconnect the internal signaling unit.

On CN6 of the repeater (or CN2 of the controller end of the cable) apply a
jumper to pins 23, 89, 1011.

If the external controller is wired CORRECTLY to the 15 pin accessory plug,
it WILL work properly.

NEVER use the internal controller with an external controller. You are
asking for problems.

 

73 de Mark - N9WYS

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ



At 08:41 PM 04/23/08, you wrote:

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  Give me a couple of days to dig up my notes, Frank...  I interfaced a

  CAT-300 to a TKR-820.  (You DID meant to write TRK, not KTR, correct?)
The

  internal controller MUST be disconnected and some of the lines jumpered
to

  get it to work properly.

 

  Mark - N9WYS

 

  -Original Message-

  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Fran

 

  Im building a Kenwood KTR-820 repeater useing the

  Arcom RC-210 controller. I'm in the process of wiring

  a Comspec Tone board for my CTCSS PL tones. Any help

  would be appreciated.

 

  I tried to use the internal controller for my PL tones

  but when I plug the internal controller plug back I

  lose COS control on the Arcom.

 

  Frank

 

Thanks,

Yes it is a TKR-820 Kenwood, I jumpered on connector CN1 off the

internal controller jumping out pins 2-3, 8-9 and 10-11.

 

I have a Com-Spec TS64 that I'm working on wiring to the accy plug on

the 820.

 

Frank

Thanks for your help!!!

KB2AYS

 

Here are my notes on a TS-64:

 

 Red wire is + DC power in

 

 Black is ground

 

 The green wire is the AUDIO INPUT. Hook this to the receiver
discriminator.

 

 Ground the violet HANGUP wire or it will stay in pass the audio mode

 all the time. This is the biggest single error in connecting on the

 TS64 - if it is acting like it's dead right out of the box (i.e. not

 decoding) make sure that the hang-up lead (the purple wire) is grounded.

 

 Use the white MUTE wire for decode logic output. By default it uses

 open collector active high signalling (i.e. this signal will go high

 for decode), but it needs a resistor from this pin to a voltage source

 to do it. If you need active low install jumper JP7 to cause the

 signal to go to ground on decode.

 

 The yellow wire is the ENCODE OUT. This is the audio that is run to

 the transmitter modulator.

 

 The orange wire is the PTT input. Ground this to switch the tone

 encoder on. When ground is removed the encoder phase is

 shifted (i.e. reverse burst), and the encoder stops 160ms later.

 

 The gray wire is the PTT OUT. This signal goes low when the orange

 wire is grounded and stays low for the duration of the grounded input

 plus the reverse burst timing. In normal mobile radio use the PTT lead

 from the microphone would be disconnected from the radio and be

 connected to the orange wire, and the grey wire be connected to the

 point in the radio where the microphone PTT lead was.

 

 The blue wire is the FILTERED AUDIO OUT. The path from the green wire

 (in) and the blue wire (out) has a high pass / low cut audio filter in

 line, designed to remove the subaudible tone from the user audio. This

 is an installers choice - You can feed the blue wire back into the

 receve audio connection (i.e. cut a trace and have the source go to

 green and the destination go to blue). This type of radio surgery is very

 radio dependent. Many radios have a high pass filter in them from the

 factory and in that case you can simply tape off the blue wire and ignore
it.

 

Mike WA6ILQ



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Delayed PTT on Micor

2008-04-25 Thread Thomas Oliver
Where are you connecting your ptt signal ?  
Watch the voltage on the ptt line with a volt meter it may not be going low
enough. (I doubt this is the problem)

Watch the voltage on the ctcss line (both with controller hooked up and
controller disconected)  and make sure it is in range of what the
controller wants.

Put the controller in carrier mode and see if the delay problem goes away.

If the problem goes away put it back in ctcss mode and jumper the ctcss
input on the controller to ground, assuming it is set up for active low.
you may want to disconnect the ctcss wire from the micor and jumper it
there. Then run the repeater this way and see if the delay problem is still
there. This will prove it is ctcss signal voltage related.
 I remember trying to help a friend troubleshoot the same problem on the
same setup you have and I think the controller did not like the ctcss
signal or cos signal from the micor. It seems like one of the signals was
not going low enough I suggested he use a relay to take the signal to hard
ground. I can't remember what he actually did.
You may have to buffer the cos or ctcss with a transistor because the
signals do not go low enough if I remember right.

You could try disconnecting the controller and running the ptt wire to hard
ground by hand and see if you still have the delay problem.

The normal delay in the micor ptt is only 150 or 200 miliseconds or so I
think . Hardly noticable.


hope this helps

tom n8ies




 [Original Message]
 From: georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: 4/25/2008 6:38:34 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Delayed PTT on Micor

 I am having an issue with a Micor Station and a RC210.  Don't think it
 is the controller though (just for info).  I have done the audio
 squelch mod on the v/s board.

 When keyed by a signal on the input, I see the controller receive
 the COS and CTCSS.  However the PTT is delayed in keying.  This also
 varies in length of time to key up.  Sounds like a cap. but not sure
 where to look.  Micor squelch circuit seems to be working nicely :-)

 Ideas?
 Thanks,
 Robert
 KD4YDC
  


 



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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron 38A Manual

2008-04-25 Thread Jack Davis
Repeater BuilderTake a look at the PDF on the web site, it is missing the 
schematics just like mine is.  They left blank pages in the manual just to 
remind you they were missing!

Jack
K6YC

Posted by: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   scottn3xcc 
Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:06 pm (PDT) 
Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore??

http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater controller? The 
pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it.

Thanks,
Jack
K6YC


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[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a paper bag

2008-04-25 Thread skipp025
Re: Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a plain brown paper bag 


Just one of those scratch your head things... I bought a repeater 
rf power amplifier off ebay this month. The seller sent it out 
wrapped only in a brown paper grocery bag. Only the folded over 
open end had clear tape to seal it. 

The big surpise is how it arrived in pretty fair condition... less 
one of the 19 inch rack mounting ears being bent. The bag had no 
holes or tears. 

Once in a while I get lucky... :-) 

s. 



[Repeater-Builder] Head Scratcher R1225

2008-04-25 Thread Cort Buffington
Guys,

I know, batlabs, but I'm on this list :)

I've just put an R1225 in service using the internal controller, and  
the user community (ham radio) is displeased with the volume of the  
tones from the internal controller (ID and courtesy). I was baffled in  
my v3.1 RSS to see no apparent way to reduce the tone volume. I will  
admit, it's pretty annoyingly loud, but only around 3.0kHz according  
to my service monitor so not a TECHNICAL problem, just annoying.  
Anyone know of a way to reduce the volume (without butchering the  
radio)?

73 DE N0MJS

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron 38A Manual (Diagrams the Sacramento, CA. Wednesday Lunch Hour)

2008-04-25 Thread skipp025
Hi Jack, 

The Wednesday (no longer super secret) Electronics, Railroad, 
Broadcast, Computer Geek/people lunch hour moved back over to the 
VIP Buffet location on El Camino. However the place is now called 
East Meets West Buffet. Please come join us again at the new/old 
location when you have a spare moment. 

Had you attended last Wednesday lunch you could have asked that 
trouble-maker Skipp if he had the circuit diagrams for the Zetron 
38a unit. As a Zetron Reseller he would have said probably and 
they'd be in your Email In-Box by now.  

So... go check your Email In-Box. 

cheers, 
Skipp 

skipp025 at yahoo.com 
www.radiowrench.com 

ps: Anyone who can make the Sacramento Wednesday Lunch would 
always be welcome to join us. 


 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Repeater BuilderTake a look at the PDF on the web site, it is
missing the schematics just like mine is.  They left blank pages in
the manual just to remind you they were missing!
 
 Jack
 K6YC
 
 Posted by: Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]   scottn3xcc 
 Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:06 pm (PDT) 
 Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore??
 

http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf
 
 Scott
 
 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Rd
 Boswell, PA 15531
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual
 
 Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater
controller? The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it.
 
 Thanks,
 Jack
 K6YC




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a paper bag

2008-04-25 Thread Bob M.
I hope you noted the insufficient packing material
when you left feedback.

How much over the actual postage were you charged for
shipping and handling? That clear tape must have
been _real_ expensive!

Bob M.
==
--- skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Re: Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a plain brown
 paper bag 
 
 
 Just one of those scratch your head things... I
 bought a repeater 
 rf power amplifier off ebay this month. The seller
 sent it out 
 wrapped only in a brown paper grocery bag. Only the
 folded over 
 open end had clear tape to seal it. 
 
 The big surpise is how it arrived in pretty fair
 condition... less 
 one of the 19 inch rack mounting ears being bent.
 The bag had no 
 holes or tears. 
 
 Once in a while I get lucky... :-) 
 
 s.


  

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a paper bag

2008-04-25 Thread n9wys
It apparently didn't come UPS, did it?  

They are anal about the way they accept packages (at least in these parts)
probably because they have a tendency to bash-up everything they ship.
(Hence: United Package Smashers)  ;-p

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of skipp025
Re: Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a plain brown paper bag 

Just one of those scratch your head things... I bought a repeater 
rf power amplifier off ebay this month. The seller sent it out 
wrapped only in a brown paper grocery bag. Only the folded over 
open end had clear tape to seal it. 

The big surpise is how it arrived in pretty fair condition... less 
one of the 19 inch rack mounting ears being bent. The bag had no 
holes or tears. 

Once in a while I get lucky... :-) 

s. 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra radio not dead .....isnt vandalizing amateur radio a federal crime ?

2008-04-25 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, mikewm9v wrote:
 a schematic would be nice for this radio i dont trust the pinouts on 
 the db15 connector also wondering if control panel with pots for vol 
 and squelch will work with all chassis db 15 connector requires 
 ignition sense for ground and speaker hi lo for audio would like to 
 add squelch to front panel . caps on control board will fix dim 
 display caps on rf board near audio ic found leaky vco change with 
 silver pen sounds like great idea ther seems to be a lot of mystique 
 surrounding reprogramming radios why doesnt someone come up with a 
 simple usb interface for radios the spectra interface needs data + 
 data - (inverted) at 5 volts data ground and maybe a dsr or cts 
 through other pinouts i get this radio is gonna turn into a brick 
 blurb from people

http://www.onfreq.com/syntorx/spectra/manualss.html
http://www.onfreq.com/syntorx/spectra/
http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/spectra/spectra-index.html
http://www.batlabs.com/spectra.html

If you're looking for further information, batboard.batlabs.com. Just 
call up a Motorola shop and order the appropriate Spectra manual. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


[Repeater-Builder] Sinclair duplexer Probe - Loop Pictures

2008-04-25 Thread skipp025
If you enjoy the art, science and construction of re-entrant 
energy devices (loops and probe) within a duplexer... this 
ebay auction has some nice pictures of how Sinclair did the 
deed. 

enjoy 
s. 


Older Sinclair Q202G* VHF Duplexer Stub Coupling Loop
Ebay Item number: 270202686299 





[Repeater-Builder] DB-4046W

2008-04-25 Thread Dave
Is there a specific formula used in order to determine the lengths of 
the coaxial harness on this particular model of duplexer? It has 2 
pass/notch cans for transmit and receive. The information on the 
repeater builder website contains information for 463.4/468.4 MHz, and 
I need 441/446 Mhz. Thanks!

Dave, K7QT



[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-4046W

2008-04-25 Thread Dave
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a specific formula used in order to determine the lengths of 
 the coaxial harness on this particular model of duplexer? It has 2 
 pass/notch cans for transmit and receive. The information on the 
 repeater builder website contains information for 463.4/468.4 MHz, 
and 
 I need 441/446 Mhz. Thanks!
 
 Dave, K7QT



Sorry, I mean DB-4076W. Please excuse the typo.



[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-4076W

2008-04-25 Thread skipp025


I would suspect a 20 MHz move down would require similar cables 
about 1/4 to 1/2 inch longer all the way around. 

s. 


  Is there a specific formula used in order to determine the 
  lengths of the coaxial harness on this particular model of 
  duplexer? It has 2 pass/notch cans for transmit and receive. 
  The information on the repeater builder website contains 
  information for 463.4/468.4 MHz, and I need 441/446 Mhz. 
  Thanks!
  Dave, K7QT

 I mean DB-4076W. Please excuse the original typo.





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord

2008-04-25 Thread John W Anderson
you people know to edit a messages.  you complain about how big the message 
are, but you still send it in your replay.  this thing was sent 5 times. 

John  WD8RTH
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Wesley Bazell Jr 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord


   -- Original Message - 
From: Ralph Messer 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord


 - Original Message - 

  From: Paul Finch 

--
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Ralph Messer
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:58 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord


  - Original Message - 

From: Tony Lelieveld 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord






From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Ralph Messer
Sent: April 24, 2008 10:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jay Rivenbark; 
justblonde0419; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pat Hartley; Repeater-Builder; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; smesser33
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Thank You, Lord


 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair duplexer Probe - Loop Pictures

2008-04-25 Thread no6b
At 4/25/2008 15:20, you wrote:

If you enjoy the art, science and construction of re-entrant
energy devices (loops and probe) within a duplexer... this
ebay auction has some nice pictures of how Sinclair did the
deed.

enjoy
s.

I always liked the transmission line BpBr implementation - no capacitor 
plates to arc.  Very robust.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a paper bag

2008-04-25 Thread John Gleichweit
There's a thread in one of the vintage stereo groups about problems with 
shipping companies and their not honoring damage claims. UPS and FedEx 
seem to be the worst, with DHL better than the two.

I had one shipper who literally threw about 50# worth of assorted radios 
and parts into a thin single-wall corrugated box, wrapped  with a bunch 
of clear packing tape. About half of the radios were broken , and one 
was in such a bad shape that I really can't do much with it besides let 
it sit on the shelf.

n9wys wrote:
 It apparently didn't come UPS, did it?  

 They are anal about the way they accept packages (at least in these parts)
 probably because they have a tendency to bash-up everything they ship.
 (Hence: United Package Smashers)  ;-p

 Mark - N9WYS

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of skipp025
 Re: Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a plain brown paper bag 

 Just one of those scratch your head things... I bought a repeater 
 rf power amplifier off ebay this month. The seller sent it out 
 wrapped only in a brown paper grocery bag. Only the folded over 
 open end had clear tape to seal it. 

 The big surpise is how it arrived in pretty fair condition... less 
 one of the 19 inch rack mounting ears being bent. The bag had no 
 holes or tears. 

 Once in a while I get lucky... :-) 

 s. 

   



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Power Amplifier sent in a paper bag

2008-04-25 Thread no6b
At 4/25/2008 20:58, you wrote:

There's a thread in one of the vintage stereo groups about problems with
shipping companies and their not honoring damage claims. UPS and FedEx
seem to be the worst, with DHL better than the two.

This is a good thread with Dayton coming up.

Unfortunately there are no DHL shipping centers close to Hara.

Bob NO6B