[Repeater-Builder] Modifing Club Call Sign

2008-05-23 Thread sgreact47
To modify or change the club license requires a different form and has
to go thru a VE. I used ARRL, their form, and it did not cost
anything. The Federallies sent the new club license out in the mail.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] new member

2008-05-23 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Scott Berry wrote:
 I am a new member to this list.  My name is Scott Berry and I am a ham 
 radio operator with the call n7zib.  I am totally blind and getting in 
 to building my first repeater which will be located in the town of 
 Margie, MN which is about 40 miles south of the Canadian border.  I 
 hope to learn lots of new things here and thanks for the list Kevin.

Make sure you're not in a zone that the FCC doesn't allow the use of 900 
MHz in. 

--
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But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Wright


Jack,

Not sure what manual or instructions you are using for tuning the Micor. 
I use the manual from Mot and the Mot test set although one can use a 
voltmeter.  I find a analog meter better.  You need to follow the 
instructions exactly and yes it is a piece of cake, but must follow the 
receipt exactly.


When it comes to tuning often dips are called for.  These dips are most 
often very small.  Keep this in mind.


there are tuning instructions of the Repeater-Builder site.  The Micor 
is well know to many of its members.


73, ron, n9ee/r


Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Thu, May 22, 2008 at  4:56 PM, n9ex_jack wrote:

Hi guys
I know another newbie thinking Micors are a piece of cake

I'm building a micor repeater that use to be a police unit. the tuning
of the micor seems a little strange to me.
if anyone has links they would like to share on the Micor it would be
of great interest to me
Thanks in advance
Jack
N9EX




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor

2008-05-23 Thread harley5477
Thanks for tips guys your information and links are appreciated.
Jack
N9EX
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2008 8:55:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Jack,

Not sure what manual or instructions you are using for tuning the  Micor.  I 
use the manual from Mot and the Mot test set although one can  use a 
voltmeter.  I find a analog meter better.  You need to follow  the instructions 
exactly 
and yes it is a piece of cake, but must follow the  receipt exactly.

When it comes to tuning often dips are called for.  These  dips are most 
often very small.  Keep this in mind.

there are tuning instructions of the Repeater-Builder site.   The Micor is 
well know to many of its members.

73, ron, n9ee/r




Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575






MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.






On Thu, May 22, 2008 at  4:56 PM, n9ex_jack  wrote:

Hi guys 
I know another newbie thinking Micors are a piece of cake  

I'm building a micor r epeater that use to be a police unit. the  tuning 
of the micor seems a little strange to me. 
if anyone has links they would like to share on the Micor it would  be 
of great interest to me 
Thanks in advance 
Jack 
N9EX 



 



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[Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Jed Barton
Some of you pros have delt  with this i am sure.
A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went up to the sight  
after over a year, and let's just say it was a horrible sight.
The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and  
keeping them away?
Anyone else delt with this problem?
  Mice are evil
Thanks,
Jed


Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Eric M.


Used to have mice problems with computer systems that were in harsh 
environments like warehouses and even one in a brick plant.


We would spray WD-40 on the inside of the panels of the systems about 
every six months when we did the PM's on the systems, no more mice.  Not 
sure what was in the spray but the mice didn't like it.


Eric
VA3EAM

Jed Barton wrote:


Some of you pros have delt with this i am sure.
A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went up to the sight
after over a year, and let's just say it was a horrible sight.
The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and
keeping them away?
Anyone else delt with this problem?
Mice are evil
Thanks,
Jed

 




Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Oh that's easy...

WD40 is good for anything that sticks or squeaks

and mice... squeak.

Chuck
WB2EDV

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric M. 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights



  Used to have mice problems with computer systems that were in harsh 
environments like warehouses and even one in a brick plant.

  We would spray WD-40 on the inside of the panels of the systems about every 
six months when we did the PM's on the systems, no more mice.  Not sure what 
was in the spray but the mice didn't like it.

  Eric
  VA3EAM



Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Jed Barton

really so what do you spray it on top of the rack?
This sounds interesting
On May 23, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Chuck Kelsey wrote:



Oh that's easy...

WD40 is good for anything that sticks or squeaks

and mice... squeak.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message -
From: Eric M.
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights


Used to have mice problems with computer systems that were in harsh  
environments like warehouses and even one in a brick plant.


We would spray WD-40 on the inside of the panels of the systems  
about every six months when we did the PM's on the systems, no more  
mice.  Not sure what was in the spray but the mice didn't like it.


Eric
VA3EAM







Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Bob M.
Spread a lot of moth balls (camphor) around the site,
inside the racks, around the perimeter, etc. These do
evaporate after a while so you'll have to add more in
about a year. Totally harmless to most humans once you
get past the smell. We use them in AM broadcast tower
equipment dog houses.

After a few months, go around the building and seal
any openings you find. Holes as small as 1/2 inch are
enough for many mice to get through. Same with 1/4
inch gaps under doors. Don't forget around the cables
and through conduits.

Bob M.
==
--- Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some of you pros have delt  with this i am sure.
 A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went
 up to the sight  
 after over a year, and let's just say it was a
 horrible sight.
 The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
 Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little
 bastards and  
 keeping them away?
 Anyone else delt with this problem?
   Mice are evil
 Thanks,
 Jed


  


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need help IDing Celwave filter

2008-05-23 Thread no6b
At 5/22/2008 19:13, you wrote:

Eric,

The 9182510Y17 filter is a Motorola product, made by Celwave. Call Motorola
Parts ID at 800-422-4210, and have the clerk find what the Celwave part
number is. Then call Celwave (RFS World) to get servicing data. It may be
a long shot, but also ask the Parts ID clerk what Motorola manual covers
this filter. You might luck out- if it's not out of print.

It may be a good idea to ship the unit back to Celwave for a factory
conversion to your desired frequency. Such units seldom can be moved more
than 10 or 15 MHz without loop adjustment.

I have 3 of these window filters, though not quite the same part # 
(9182510Y26  9182510Y01 and 'Y02).  The Y26 filter tuned into the 440 band 
with no problems (as received it was tuned to 409-416 MHz), while the Y01 
needed modification to bring it up into the ham band.  I can't remember the 
details of what I did other than I lengthened the threaded rods by 
soldering some heavy-gauge solid wire to the ends,  removed a wire coupler 
that was placed between 2 of the sections.

One of the Y01s/Y02s is on the mountain, so I can't pop it open but I may 
have another one kicking around at work.  If I do  you need the mod. 
details let me know.  The center passband loss should be around 1 dB.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sites

2008-05-23 Thread no6b
At 5/23/2008 07:43, you wrote:

Some of you pros have delt with this i am sure.
A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went up to the sight
after over a year, and let's just say it was a horrible sight.
The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and
keeping them away?
Anyone else delt with this problem?
Mice are evil
Thanks,
Jed

Seal your cabinet.

I've had a system on a mountaintop full of mice for ~24 years  have never 
had any mice get inside the cabinet.  A long time ago one chewed through 
the outer jacket of some braided coax but it stopped when it hit the 
braid.  Fortunately this was inside the building.

Bob NO6B



Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Alexandre Souza
 Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and
 keeping them away?

Brazilian recipe: Mix something tasteful (in Brazil we use Fubá which 
is a kind of flour made of corn) with cement. Lots of fubá, and some 20-30% 
of cement. They will eat and the cement will petrify on their stomachs :o) 
They love it O:o) 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread n9wys
At the county site where my 440 machine is co-located, they are using a
combination of D-Con packs and ultrasonic repellers.  I'm actually surprised
at how well these are apparently working.

The building was abandoned for a number of years before the county took
possession, so the place was basically overrun with mice prior to our
occupancy.  Other than the smell, we cleaned out the place in a matter of
weeks... and have had no returns.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Bob M.
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

Spread a lot of moth balls (camphor) around the site,
inside the racks, around the perimeter, etc. These do
evaporate after a while so you'll have to add more in
about a year. Totally harmless to most humans once you
get past the smell. We use them in AM broadcast tower
equipment dog houses.

After a few months, go around the building and seal
any openings you find. Holes as small as 1/2 inch are
enough for many mice to get through. Same with 1/4
inch gaps under doors. Don't forget around the cables
and through conduits.

Bob M.
==
--- Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some of you pros have delt  with this i am sure.
 A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went
 up to the sight  
 after over a year, and let's just say it was a
 horrible sight.
 The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
 Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little
 bastards and  
 keeping them away?
 Anyone else delt with this problem?
   Mice are evil
 Thanks,
 Jed



RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Jeff DePolo
 Some of you pros have delt with this i am sure.
 A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went up to the sight 
 after over a year, and let's just say it was a horrible sight.
 The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
 Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and 
 keeping them away?

One or more snakes is the best solution :-)  Seriously, at rural sites where
there are a lot of black snakes around this area you never have problems
with mice.  Occasionally you'll find a snakeskin wrapped around a sharp
object (apparently they shed their old skin by getting it snagged on
something intentionally), but that's a much lesser evil than mice.  I hate
mice.  They're evil.

Second best is mothballs.  They don't like 'em and will stay away.

Sealing up possible entry points is important too.  I like using foil tape;
I've never seen them chew through it probably because they don't realize
it's not just part of the rest of the metal cabinet.  For openings that must
remain open (such as for ventilation), cover with fine wire mesh.

--- Jeff WN3A





Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Milt
Consider yourself lucky that the evidence is only on the outside of the 
cabinet.  I have seen much worse on the inside of cabinets.

Also consider a mask and gloves when handling the equipment for cleaning and 
while in the building.  Haute(sp?) virus is spread by mice.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jed Barton 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights


  yeah, this was a nice Icom repeater, and let's just say they left   evidence 
of them being there, by releiving themselves on top of it.
  Now the repeater was still working, but i was horrified at what i saw

  On May 23, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Eric M.



Used to have mice problems with computer systems that were in harsh 
environments like warehouses and even one in a brick plant.

We would spray WD-40 on the inside of the panels of the systems about every 
six months when we did the PM's on the systems, no more mice.  Not sure what 
was in the spray but the mice didn't like it.

Eri c
VA3EAM

Jed Barton wrote:


  Some of you pros have delt with this i am sure.
  A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went up to the sight 
  after over a year, and let's just say it was a horrible sight.
  The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
  Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and 
  keeping them away?
  Anyone else delt with this problem?
  Mice are evil
  Thanks,
  Jed






   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux

2008-05-23 Thread wd8chl
Wayne wrote:

   Oh yes, looking at this particular auction, it shows $51.47 for shipping  
 to my loction.
   One thing I wonder about with this seller. Why does he use a seller ID  
 that resembles a call sign but uses extra letters? And nothing like the  
 call sign the buyer mentions?
   YMMV
 
   Wayne WA2YNE

I am being forced to change my user ID because for some STUPID reason, 
ebay INSISTS that your user ID and email CANNOT start the same. All of 
my email addresses start with wd8chl, so because ebay is a bunch of 
jerks, I have  to change my user ID to something like wd8chl1 or 
something else equally stupid.
And I have a low tolerance for stupidity!

 |cP


[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Integrator Programming?

2008-05-23 Thread whp






Anyone out here experienced in using the Zetron RDPS software to program Zetron Integrator RD?

I'm following what little there is in the manual but can't seem to get buttons onto the screen. Their description of drag and drop works only for menu buttons in the window dressing but notfor channel buttons.

Would also like to remove as much of the "window dressing" as I can as we are implementing all 48 channels thru the transition.

Thanks and happy holiday,
Bill Powell - WB1GOT







Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux

2008-05-23 Thread Wayne
  The problem there is simple. There isn't any next big auction site.
  Ebay drove many away years ago, and the supposed competition has crap.

  usually, but, of coure, not always, the bigger sellers on Ebay are  
trusable and will make things right.
  I read between the lines. I also tend to avoid sellers who give no idea  
as to shipping costs, or who charge what ios way high for shipping.
  Some took to selling items for 99 cents, with very high shipping, and  
same seller selling same item for more with lower shipping.
  Those sellers I do not trust

  I also have a few favorite sellers that have done right by me, and I'd  
buy from them again if they had what I wanted at a price I was willing to  
pay.
  Shipping costs for many items have gone up way too much.

  Auctions to maybe keep an eye on:
  Yahoo auctions. Not very good right now, but maybe if they get more  
people selling. Poor interface IMO.
  Ebid? Not sure, crappy interface.

  Note, at least one auction site extends bidding time if someone places a  
last minute bid. I forget exactly which this was right now.

  Drawbacks with some auctions:
  Newby buyers willing to pay more than an item is worth because they don't  
know any better, or have no sense of real value.
  Sellers who sell used items for the same or more than usual retail for a  
new item.
  Sellers who make false claims about items. Some cover teir behinds by  
cl;aiming they don't know anything about the item. Some claim item was  
working, when often it was already junk. Some say working, but may not say  
barely, or only partially.
  Sellers who are outright frauds. like one who was selling a replica radio  
as being an antique. A supposed 1930's radio that was transistorized, and  
even had a CD player, Huh?

  I am not sure how the new format for feedback will work out. True, it  
does not let a seller know about deadbeat bidders, and there are some of  
those. Some simply are stupid and don't read all of the description, then  
claim they didn't know after they wond the bid. And only in a few  
instances can a seller get credit for a sale that did not follow through.  
It does cost money to list, and so on. Won't go into details now, but some  
auctions cost a fair amount between the lsisting and fees...
  YMMV

  Wayne WA2YNE


On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:49:40 -0500, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So if you're selling something on eBay, you will have no way to know if
 someone is a bid for fun bidder? If that's true, it's time to find the
 next big auction site because eBay won't last much longer.

 Joe M.

 ldgelectronics wrote:
 My e-bay popped up today saying that sellers could no longer leave
 negative or neutral feedback. No need to wait the 30 days.

 However, just as others have mentioned their preference, I like to
 resolve with communication rather than duke it out with feedback and
 filing claims.

 Dwayne Kincaid
 WD8OYG



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread n9wys
And so is one strain of Salmonella - which I suffered from several years
ago. VERY nasty disease, and I'm lucky to have survived it!  

(Yes, I was QUITE ill from it!)

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Milt



Consider yourself lucky that the evidence is only on the outside of the
cabinet.  I have seen much worse on the inside of cabinets.

 

Also consider a mask and gloves when handling the equipment for cleaning and
while in the building.  Haute(sp?) virus is spread by mice.



[Repeater-Builder] IMTS rpt uhf

2008-05-23 Thread JESSIE NORTHCUTT
hello to all in the group. i have came across a old IMTS micor based
UHF 250 watt swbell rpt. I need info on this rig. the tx work ok, the
recv works ok the amp ok. i got 125 watts out of the amp. it uses a
8874 in the pa deck. i have one or two uhf micor rpt`s to play with to
drive the amp with that work well. i need info on the amp and the
controls for the amp. any help out there? thanks jesse WD0BBR



RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread ka9qjg
Never had any Problems with Mice, But plenty with 2 Legged Rats,  LOL 
 
 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Nate Duehr

On May 23, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Milt wrote:

 Consider yourself lucky that the evidence is only on the outside of  
 the cabinet.  I have seen much worse on the inside of cabinets.

 Also consider a mask and gloves when handling the equipment for  
 cleaning and while in the building.  Haute(sp?) virus is spread by  
 mice.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanta_virus

Nasty stuff.

From: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/health/hantavirus.html
Avoid sweeping up or vacuuming mouse droppings, which can inject  
viral particles into the air. Instead, don a pair of rubber gloves and  
wet the material with bleach or similar disinfectant. Use a damp cloth  
to clean up the area and then spray with more disinfectant. Spray any  
dead mice with disinfectant and double-bag them for disposal.  
Disinfect, or better still, throw out the rubber gloves. Items that  
can’t be disinfected can be rendered safe by exposing them to sunlight  
for a few hours. Ultraviolet rays kill hantavirus.

People who regularly work in rodent-infested areas would be well  
advised to wear HEPA-filter face masks.

Most sites say the best killer of the virus outside of the body is UV  
light.  Sunlight wipes it out... but most of our repeater sites have  
little to none of that.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread DCFluX
I got my MASTR-III because it had a fairly large rat problem. The
urine actually corroded through a trace on the SAS board and there are
still areas where the solder mask has been disolved off. It took a
whole bottle of 409 and a couple of hours of scrubing.


RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Paul Finch
Then you can use them as fishing weights!  Is that politically correct?
There is always the rat poison like Just One Bite.  Contains Warfarin, a
blood thinner and they bleed to death internally.
 
Of course, I have seen some that trap them and turn them loose in the
country for some other person to have the deal with.  
 
Paul
 
 

   _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexandre Souza
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights



 Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and
 keeping them away?

Brazilian recipe: Mix something tasteful (in Brazil we use Fubá which 
is a kind of flour made of corn) with cement. Lots of fubá, and some 20-30% 
of cement. They will eat and the cement will petrify on their stomachs :o) 
They love it O:o) 



 


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread ka9qjg
 Do Not use D-Con in Your House My Wife used that stuff and the mice
would Eat it and they would get in behind the walls and die and smell
bad. I had a New Fridge that  quit working , The repairman came out and
a Dead mousse that had ate the D-Con  had crawled between the Plastic
Fan Blade stopping it from working . 
 
Happy Repeater Building 
 
Don KA9QJG 
 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Bob M.
I wish I had known about all of this 3 years ago when
I dragged my big 16 gallon shop-vac 300+ ft to the dog
house at the base of an AM transmitter antenna. I
vacuumed up anything that didn't belong there. Luckily
I didn't breathe even a little of it, but my head
(without a mask) was certainly inside the tuning house
and within 1 foot of the nasty stuff. Nests, fir, dead
babies, etc. It wasn't pretty. Rubber gloves? We don't
need no stinkin' gloves! Spray? Anything moist? Nah.

I only learned about the HantaVirus after I was done
making a mess. I don't think I got sick from it, but
perhaps it did cause a few brain cells to die.

Bob M.
==
--- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 23, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Milt wrote:
 
  Consider yourself lucky that the evidence is only
 on the outside of  
  the cabinet.  I have seen much worse on the inside
 of cabinets.
 
  Also consider a mask and gloves when handling the
 equipment for  
  cleaning and while in the building.  Haute(sp?)
 virus is spread by  
  mice.
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanta_virus
 
 Nasty stuff.
 
 From:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/health/hantavirus.html
 Avoid sweeping up or vacuuming mouse droppings,
 which can inject  
 viral particles into the air. Instead, don a pair of
 rubber gloves and  
 wet the material with bleach or similar
 disinfectant. Use a damp cloth  
 to clean up the area and then spray with more
 disinfectant. Spray any  
 dead mice with disinfectant and double-bag them for
 disposal.  
 Disinfect, or better still, throw out the rubber
 gloves. Items that  
 can’t be disinfected can be rendered safe by
 exposing them to sunlight  
 for a few hours. Ultraviolet rays kill hantavirus.
 
 People who regularly work in rodent-infested areas
 would be well  
 advised to wear HEPA-filter face masks.
 
 Most sites say the best killer of the virus outside
 of the body is UV  
 light.  Sunlight wipes it out... but most of our
 repeater sites have  
 little to none of that.
 
 --
 Nate Duehr, WY0X
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  


[Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Juan Tellez
 

 

Something like this:

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
The Later Mastr Pro GE series base stations used a slanted heat sink for 
the 12.6 and 10 V pass regulators.  The chassis formed the back, and 
there was a cover on the front making a conduit for forced air from the 
4 inch muffin fan.  Poor field mouse got into the slanted heat sink, 
lost his grip, and went head first into the muffin fan - - did not 
decapitate but did trap him there and stall the fan - found the 
mummified remains some time later - then there are stories of a micor 
repeater loosing the 10 v return in the exciter - due to mouse urine 
destroying the trace on the PCB and various stories of stench.  Best 
Memorial Day wishes to all,  73, Steve NU5D




[Repeater-Builder] Re: mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread skipp025
Hi Jed, 

You hopefully try to first eliminate rodent access to the radio 
room/vault. Step two of the access issue is to eliminate access 
to any radio/repeater  cabinets. 

They can be killed and removed using a number of methods, it's 
just a question of what happens to them at the time they expire 
(die). 

Mice can be captured and relocated, but the process is much 
more involved versus killing them and hopefully being able to 
remove their remains.

The hardware store sells Bite Blocks, which seem to do the 
mice in pretty well. D-Con also works but doesn't seem to last 
or work as long term as Bite Blocks do. 

I've also tried electric shock, ultra-sonic and humane trap 
devices... but I keep going back to Bite Blocks as the easy 
way to deal with unwanted rodents. 

Many radio vaults don't have the major mice in the walls or 
roof issue like a home might so they often leave looking for 
water and or die out in the open where you can remove them 
fairly easy.   

In one very remove radio site I service there is no practical 
way to keep them out of the vault, so I keep a spread of Bite 
Blocks out on the floor and repeater cabinets and the radio 
equipiment for the most part remains unmolested. The resultant 
dead mouse mess is not really a big deal to clean out. 

Much better than having the mouse get into the equipment. 

cheers, 
skipp 


 Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some of you pros have delt  with this i am sure.
 A commercial repeater that i do some work on, i went up to the sight  
 after over a year, and let's just say it was a horrible sight.
 The mice brought the repeater to its knees.
 Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards and  
 keeping them away?
 Anyone else delt with this problem?
   Mice are evil
 Thanks,
 Jed



[Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

2008-05-23 Thread skipp025
Re: mice and the GE Master Pro 

What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most 
typical cases probably kept working as normal. 

Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number 
of them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and 
those tx strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7. 

The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for 
current repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and 
the design is a well known solid peformer. 

I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster... 

cheers, 
skipp 

 The Later Mastr Pro GE series base stations used a slanted heat 
 sink for the 12.6 and 10 V pass regulators.  The chassis formed 
 the back, and there was a cover on the front making a conduit for 
 forced air from the 4 inch muffin fan.  Poor field mouse got into 
 the slanted heat sink, lost his grip, and went head first into 
 the muffin fan - - did not decapitate but did trap him there 
 and stall the fan - found the mummified remains some time later - 
 then there are stories of a micor repeater loosing the 10 v 
 return in the exciter - due to mouse urine destroying the 
 trace on the PCB and various stories of stench.  Best 
 Memorial Day wishes to all,  73, Steve NU5D





[Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-23 Thread skipp025
Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

Just another Dayton 2008 bit of seller humor.  One flea market 
space had a stack of 6 large RCA Tac Tec Mobiles for sale at a 
modest $30 each firm. 

Great Radio for its day and probably still quite usable for 
some ham project (the version that looks like a GE Mobile) but 
at that price I'm sure he took them back home or they went into 
the scoop loader on Sunday. 

cheers, 
s. 


ps: Now if they'd been RCA Series 700 stuff I might have been 
interested in the stack for $30 total...  :-) 

pss: I know there's an RCA Carfone out there somewhere...  still 
waiting to appear from someones garage. 

:-) 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

2008-05-23 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Never fazed the Station - BTW, we are using some ultra sonic noise 
sources that plug into the AC outlets to deter rodents in our 911 center 
and some rural tx sites.  Steve NU5D

skipp025 wrote:
 Re: mice and the GE Master Pro 

 What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most 
 typical cases probably kept working as normal. 

 Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number 
 of them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and 
 those tx strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7. 

 The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for 
 current repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and 
 the design is a well known solid peformer. 

 I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster... 

 cheers, 
 skipp 

   



[Repeater-Builder] 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-23 Thread Jack Hayes

I was cleaning out the other day and found a mobile charger for an RCA
Tac-Tecnbsp; in the garage.nbsp; Never used, never installed.nbsp; I wonder 
if the Dayton
guy would like to make a deal.

73 (and Happy Holiday)

w3funnbsp; Jack


nbsp;

--- On Fri, 5/23/08, skipp025 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
From: skipp025 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 4:39 PM











Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)



Just another Dayton 2008 bit of seller humor.  One flea market 

space had a stack of 6 large RCA Tac Tec Mobiles for sale at a 

modest $30 each firm. 



Great Radio for its day and probably still quite usable for 

some ham project (the version that looks like a GE Mobile) but 

at that price I'm sure he took them back home or they went into 

the scoop loader on Sunday. 



cheers, 

s. 



ps: Now if they'd been RCA Series 700 stuff I might have been 

interested in the stack for $30 total...  :-) 



pss: I know there's an RCA Carfone out there somewhere...  still 

waiting to appear from someones garage. 



:-) 




  




 

















  

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mice and the Ultra Sonic Noise Source

2008-05-23 Thread skipp025
Re: Mice and the Ultra Sonic Noise Source 

Ultra Sonic Noise Source = Popcorn Fart (they don't do much)

cheers,
skipp 


 Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Never fazed the Station - BTW, we are using some ultra sonic 
 noise sources that plug into the AC outlets to deter rodents 
 in our 911 center and some rural tx sites.  Steve NU5D
 
 skipp025 wrote:
  Re: mice and the GE Master Pro 
 
  What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most 
  typical cases probably kept working as normal. 
 
  Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number 
  of them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and 
  those tx strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7. 
 
  The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for 
  current repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and 
  the design is a well known solid peformer. 
 
  I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster... 
 
  cheers, 
  skipp 
 

 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-23 Thread lenaw12
The RCA Carfone is in my garage complete with speaker head, cable and
mic...because the strips are independent it will make a good 6 meter
repeater some day...any offers?

;-)

LW


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 cheers, 
 s. 
 
 
 ps: Now if they'd been RCA Series 700 stuff I might have been 
 interested in the stack for $30 total...  :-) 
 
 pss: I know there's an RCA Carfone out there somewhere...  still 
 waiting to appear from someones garage. 
 
 :-)





Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-23 Thread Steve Peg
I saw them too.  Never did enquire about cost though.  Was even tempted, a bit, 
but passed.  I have TAC200 low band hi split, probably about 10 of them, most 
7(8) channel capable, and 1000 series also low band high split, and maybe 15 or 
so capable of 8 PL tones and 4 channel.  Also have some 500 low band hi split, 
probably 20.  Pennsylvania  was great for high end of low band at one time.   I 
can dicker (trade for something maybe equally old and obsolete) on them, one or 
more if there is any interest.  I also have a couple of 700 mobiles, also low 
band hi split.  Now if a couple would only have UHF!

Steve KB3FPN
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Hayes 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:45 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)



I was cleaning out the other day and found a mobile charger for an RCA
Tac-Tec  in the garage.  Never used, never installed.  I wonder if the 
Dayton
guy would like to make a deal.

73 (and Happy Holiday)

w3fun  Jack


 

--- On Fri, 5/23/08, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 4:39 PM


  Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

  Just another Dayton 2008 bit of seller humor. One flea market 
  space had a stack of 6 large RCA Tac Tec Mobiles for sale at a 
  modest $30 each firm. 

  Great Radio for its day and probably still quite usable for 
  some ham project (the version that looks like a GE Mobile) but 
  at that price I'm sure he took them back home or they went into 
  the scoop loader on Sunday. 

  cheers, 
  s. 

  ps: Now if they'd been RCA Series 700 stuff I might have been 
  interested in the stack for $30 total... :-) 

  pss: I know there's an RCA Carfone out there somewhere... still 
  waiting to appear from someones garage. 

  :-) 


   



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

2008-05-23 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Most of my repeaters are built from Mastr Pro on 6 meters, 2 meters, UHF.
They are very good, the receivers are good and the transmitters are good
except for the early UHF (with the tube tripler).

-- Original Message --
Received: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:33:13 PM PDT
From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

 Re: mice and the GE Master Pro 
 
 What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most 
 typical cases probably kept working as normal. 
 
 Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number 
 of them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and 
 those tx strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7. 
 
 The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for 
 current repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and 
 the design is a well known solid peformer. 
 
 I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster... 
 
 cheers, 
 skipp 
 
  The Later Mastr Pro GE series base stations used a slanted heat 
  sink for the 12.6 and 10 V pass regulators.  The chassis formed 
  the back, and there was a cover on the front making a conduit for 
  forced air from the 4 inch muffin fan.  Poor field mouse got into 
  the slanted heat sink, lost his grip, and went head first into 
  the muffin fan - - did not decapitate but did trap him there 
  and stall the fan - found the mummified remains some time later - 
  then there are stories of a micor repeater loosing the 10 v 
  return in the exciter - due to mouse urine destroying the 
  trace on the PCB and various stories of stench.  Best 
  Memorial Day wishes to all,  73, Steve NU5D
 
 
 
 





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-23 Thread Jack Hayes
Many years ago I dated a young lady who worked for RCA in San Francisco.

She used to say RCA stood for Really Crummy Apparatus.






--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Paul Finch lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
From: Paul Finch lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 7:24 PM














Hello All,
nbsp;
I guess everyone knows the history of the Tac Tec RCA radio?nbsp; 
That radio single handed put RCA out of business.nbsp; The engineers 
apparently 
copied the GE Mastr II radios almost verbatim and GE took them to court and 
won,nbsp;bye bye RCA
nbsp;
Like you said, they looked like GE's, small 
wonder
nbsp;
Paul
nbsp;



From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
[mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of 
skipp025
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 6:40 PM
To: 
Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 
2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)




Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

Just another Dayton 2008 bit of 
seller humor. One flea market 
space had a stack of 6 large RCA Tac Tec 
Mobiles for sale at a 
modest $30 each firm. 

Great Radio for its 
day and probably still quite usable for 
some ham project (the version that 
looks like a GE Mobile) but 
at that price I'm sure he took them back home or 
they went into 
the scoop loader on Sunday. 

cheers, 
s. 


ps: Now if they'd been RCA Series 700 stuff I might have been 

interested in the stack for $30 total... :-) 

pss: I know there's an 
RCA Carfone out there somewhere... still 
waiting to appear from someones 
garage. 

:-) 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Brown
My Ebay user ID and email are the same, and have been for quite a few years.  I 
guess this is some recent rule?

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne wrote:
 
Oh yes, looking at this particular auction, it shows $51.47 for shipping  
  to my loction.
One thing I wonder about with this seller. Why does he use a seller ID  
  that resembles a call sign but uses extra letters? And nothing like the  
  call sign the buyer mentions?
YMMV
  
Wayne WA2YNE
 
 I am being forced to change my user ID because for some STUPID reason, 
 ebay INSISTS that your user ID and email CANNOT start the same. All of 
 my email addresses start with wd8chl, so because ebay is a bunch of 
 jerks, I have  to change my user ID to something like wd8chl1 or 
 something else equally stupid.
 And I have a low tolerance for stupidity!
 
 |cP
 
 
 __



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Brown
Hey Skip,. don't bad mouth my RCA Tac Tec  (VeeTAC) repeater.  It has been in 
service for almost 20 years now.  I bought several of them for scrap by the 
pound, and they had been thrown out of the back of a truck.  Fins broken and 
pretty well beat up, but they still worked.

Only problem I had with it was when the wood ants got into it and glued the 
chassis to the wood shelf I had it on.  They also covered over all the lands on 
the boards that had voltage on them.

They finally caused some strange noises on the repeater and I was surprised 
that I could not pry the VeeTac off the shelf.  That one went in the trash, 
needless to say.  And a healthy (maybe unhealthy) dose of insect killer was 
sprayed around the wooden pole the repeater is mounted on.

The cotton pickin ants finally ate the center out of the creasote pole and it 
blew over in a high wind - broke off at the base.  Only cost our club insurance 
$7,000 to replace the fence and the corner of the telephone building it took 
out.  Also took out the power, and their backup generator did not work, so we 
got taxed for the emergency service call to restore power.

The ants can be as bad as the mice on another thread - HI.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dayton 2008 
Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)
 
 Just another Dayton 2008 bit of seller humor.  One flea market 
 space had a stack of 6 large RCA Tac Tec Mobiles for sale at a 
 modest $30 each firm. 
 
 Great Radio for its day and probably still quite usable for 
 some ham project (the version that looks like a GE Mobile) but 
 at that price I'm sure he took them back home or they went into 
 the scoop loader on Sunday. 
 
 cheers, 
 s. 
 
 ps: Now if they'd been RCA Series 700 stuff I might have been 
 interested in the stack for $30 total...  :-) 
 
 pss: I know there's an RCA Carfone out there somewhere...  still 
 waiting to appear from someones garage. 
 
 :-) 
 
 
 
 _



   

RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 23 May 2008, Paul Finch wrote:
 Of course, I have seen some that trap them and turn them loose in the 
 country for some other person to have the deal with.

I prefer the Ball Python approach. As long as you don't get bit 
handling the snake, he's happy for the free meal.

It's too bad you can't find a snake as intelligent as a dog. Then you 
could give him a nest near the GE MastrII power supply or something.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Wright


Mastr Pros are good rigs and built like battle ships.  However, one can 
get killed in one.  The tubes cost most than the radio.  I thru away 
about 25 mastr pro mobiles couple years back, but removed the tubes and 
sent to a friend.


73, ron, n9ee/r



Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Fri, May 23, 2008 at  9:15 PM, JOHN MACKEY wrote:

Most of my repeaters are built from Mastr Pro on 6 meters, 2 meters, 
UHF.

They are very good, the receivers are good and the transmitters are good
except for the early UHF (with the tube tripler).

-- Original Message --
Received: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:33:13 PM PDT
From: skipp025  [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro


Re: mice and the GE Master Pro
What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most typical cases 
probably kept working as normal.
Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number of 
them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and those tx 
strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7.
The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for current 
repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and the design is a 
well known solid peformer.

I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster...
cheers, skipp
The Later Mastr Pro GE series base stations used a slanted heat sink 
for the 12.6 and 10 V pass regulators.  The chassis formed the back, 
and there was a cover on the front making a conduit for forced air 
from the 4 inch muffin fan.  Poor field mouse got into the slanted 
heat sink, lost his grip, and went head first into the muffin fan - - 
did not decapitate but did trap him there and stall the fan - found 
the mummified remains some time later - then there are stories of a 
micor repeater loosing the 10 v return in the exciter - due to mouse 
urine destroying the trace on the PCB and various stories of stench. 
Best Memorial Day wishes to all,  73, Steve NU5D






 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com



RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Wright


Why not get a hungry cat and put inside the repeater room.  Then couple 
weeks later come by and pick up the dead cat.  Only one animal to get 
rid of.


73, ron, n9ee/r

ps: cats eat their young


Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Fri, May 23, 2008 at  5:57 PM, Paul Finch wrote:

Then you can use them as fishing weights!  Is that  politically correct? 
There is always the rat poison like Just One  Bite.  Contains 
Warfarin, a blood thinner and they bleed to death  internally.


Of course, I have seen some that trap them and turn them loose in  the 
country for some other person to have the deal with.


Paul



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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice  at repeater sights


Anyone have some advice on getting rid of the little bastards  and 
keeping them away?


Brazilian recipe: Mix something tasteful  (in Brazil we use Fubá which
is a kind of flour made of corn) with cement.  Lots of fubá, and some 
20-30%
of cement. They will eat and the cement will  petrify on their stomachs 
:o)

They love it O:o)


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Wright


I bet the repeaters using Pros or Motracs don't have rat problems.

73, ron, n9ee/r


Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Fri, May 23, 2008 at  5:36 PM, DCFluX wrote:

I got my MASTR-III because it had a fairly large rat problem. The
urine actually corroded through a trace on the SAS board and there are
still areas where the solder mask has been disolved off. It took a
whole bottle of 409 and a couple of hours of scrubing.




RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Wright


You have to careful with Pythons and rats.

Have a friend who found a python, 3 footer, a few years back.  He 
brought home and put in large tank.  It was about 6ft last I saw it.


He left town for work for about a week and left his son to care for the 
snake.  He put a rat in the tank to feed the snake, but the snake was 
not hungry and went to sleep.  The rat then ate the snake.  Well ate 
enough to kill the snake.  Turns out snakes don't have much feeling and 
did not realize he was being eaten.  Pissed off my friend.  True story. 
He is looking for another snake and son.


73, ron, n9ee/r


Ron Wright, N9EE

727-376-6575

MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS

Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL

No tone, all are welcome.




On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Kris Kirby wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008, Paul Finch wrote:
Of course, I have seen some that trap them and turn them loose in the 
country for some other person to have the deal with.


I prefer the Ball Python approach. As long as you don't get bit
handling the snake, he's happy for the free meal.

It's too bad you can't find a snake as intelligent as a dog. Then you
could give him a nest near the GE MastrII power supply or something.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR   [EMAIL PROTECTED] us mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility.
--rly
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 23 May 2008, Ron Wright wrote:
 He left town for work for about a week and left his son to care for 
 the snake. He put a rat in the tank to feed the snake, but the snake 
 was not hungry and went to sleep.  The rat then ate the snake.  Well 
 ate enough to kill the snake.  Turns out snakes don't have much 
 feeling and did not realize he was being eaten.  Pissed off my friend.  
 True story. He is looking for another snake and son.

Funny, that's how the last ball python I saw met it's end. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
I use it for wasps and hornets when I don't have anything else handy.

tom


- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 5/23/2008 11:00:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights


Oh that's easy...

WD40 is good for anything that sticks or squeaks

and mice... squeak.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: Eric M. 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights



Used to have mice problems with computer systems that were in harsh 
environments like warehouses and even one in a brick plant.

We would spray WD-40 on the inside of the panels of the systems about every six 
months when we did the PM's on the systems, no more mice.  Not sure what was in 
the spray but the mice didn't like it.

Eric
VA3EAM


 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights

2008-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
I have disconnected several dead mice from the fans on refrigerators over the 
years.

tom n8ies 


- Original Message - 
From: ka9qjg 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 5/23/2008 6:29:26 PM 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] mice at repeater sights


 Do Not use D-Con in Your House My Wife used that stuff and the mice would Eat 
it and they would get in behind the walls and die and smell bad. I had a New 
Fridge that  quit working , The repairman came out and a Dead mousse that had 
ate the D-Con  had crawled between the Plastic Fan Blade stopping it from 
working . 
 
Happy Repeater Building 
 
Don KA9QJG 
 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

2008-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
I still have a bunch of brand new tubes for Mastr Pro Stuff.

tom n8ies


 [Original Message]
 From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: 5/23/2008 9:15:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

 Most of my repeaters are built from Mastr Pro on 6 meters, 2 meters, UHF.
 They are very good, the receivers are good and the transmitters are good
 except for the early UHF (with the tube tripler).

 -- Original Message --
 Received: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:33:13 PM PDT
 From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

  Re: mice and the GE Master Pro 
  
  What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most 
  typical cases probably kept working as normal. 
  
  Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number 
  of them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and 
  those tx strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7. 
  
  The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for 
  current repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and 
  the design is a well known solid peformer. 
  
  I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster... 
  
  cheers, 
  skipp 
  
   The Later Mastr Pro GE series base stations used a slanted heat 
   sink for the 12.6 and 10 V pass regulators.  The chassis formed 
   the back, and there was a cover on the front making a conduit for 
   forced air from the 4 inch muffin fan.  Poor field mouse got into 
   the slanted heat sink, lost his grip, and went head first into 
   the muffin fan - - did not decapitate but did trap him there 
   and stall the fan - found the mummified remains some time later - 
   then there are stories of a micor repeater loosing the 10 v 
   return in the exciter - due to mouse urine destroying the 
   trace on the PCB and various stories of stench.  Best 
   Memorial Day wishes to all,  73, Steve NU5D
  
  
  
  




 



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[Repeater-Builder] O.T. 100 lb drum of virgin R-11 and 1/3 drum of virgin R-113

2008-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
Anybody got any use for this?

New old stock sealed 100 lb drum of virgin R-11 and 1/3 drum of virgin R-113

Flint Lansing Michigan area Best offer.

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tom


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