[Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
Somewhere in my pile of data books I have an application note that refers to a simplex repeater being used in commercial applications. The booklet was from either dB Products or Pye as I recall. The purpose of their simplex repeater was to fill local coverage holes. The equipment described consisted of 2 beam antennas, one pointed at the source and the other pointed at the hole with an amplifier and filter between them. The antennas were adjusted for maximum isolation and the amplifier gain was set to be considerably less than the isolation between the antennas. Similar setups were used in the early days of television to give coverage in behind mountains. These setups would simultaneously transmit on the same frequency. Has anyone else seen such application notes or booklets??? Burt VE2BMQ MCH wrote: Just because you call something a repeater doesn't mean it is. A simplex repeater is not a repeater due to two things: 1. It does not simultaneously retransmit, and 2. It transmits on the same frequency. Point #1 was just clarified by the FCC Monday, but point #2 has never been misinterpreted in the FCC definition, AFAIK. Joe M. Dave Gomberg wrote: At 16:34 3/24/2009, Jeff Condit wrote: What do you call it when messages are recorded and then retransmission begins right after reception ends? By this definition it would not constitute a simplex repeater, right? That is exactly m y understanding of what simplex repeater means Jeff Condit Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Burt Lang b...@... wrote: Has anyone else seen such application notes or booklets??? Google for Plessey Groundsat A lot of my late father's work went into that box . 73 de WR3D
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
I think I've read of similar application in microwave multi-hops, where very high isolations can be achieved between back-to-back antennas. - Original Message - From: Burt Lang To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater Somewhere in my pile of data books I have an application note that refers to a simplex repeater being used in commercial applications. The booklet was from either dB Products or Pye as I recall. The purpose of their simplex repeater was to fill local coverage holes. The equipment described consisted of 2 beam antennas, one pointed at the source and the other pointed at the hole with an amplifier and filter between them. The antennas were adjusted for maximum isolation and the amplifier gain was set to be considerably less than the isolation between the antennas. Similar setups were used in the early days of television to give coverage in behind mountains. These setups would simultaneously transmit on the same frequency. Has anyone else seen such application notes or booklets??? Burt VE2BMQ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Data link to repeater controller
I have also thought about the problem with users disturbing data transfer. But in the meantime I have found that already 25 years ago the vintage ACC AC-850 controller had this feature implemented on the optional computer interface board where it was only necessary to add a modem chip to do exactly that, configuring your repeater via a 1k2 data connection. I do not know this controller, but I was astonished at the features it had 25 years ago, apart from the now outdated design most of the features seem still to be up to date now. Has anyone owned an AC-850 and used this data transfer feature? How well did it work practically? Especially considering people who do disturb, be it intentionally or unintentionally? Regards Martin --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: At 12:34 PM 3/25/2009, cruizzer77 wrote: Just the other day I thought how cool it would be to have a data connection to a bells and whistles repeater controller, so that configuration or even software updates could be done remotely. If an internet connection is available at the repeater site this should not be a very big deal. But often this isn't, so how about establishing a packet-like data connection via the repeater input? Does anyone know if something like this has ever been done, or has at least been tried? I would be curious to learn about it! ---I do this now with diskless Linux computers and 802.11 links Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
the term 'simplex repeater' was coined by one of the 'el cheapo' 2-way makers about 1978 or so it was marketed as the 'SARR'Simplex Audio Recorder / Repeater it never caught on Gary - Original Message - From: Laryn Lohman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater These setups would simultaneously transmit on the same frequency. Has anyone else seen such application notes or booklets??? Burt VE2BMQ None other than our own Mike WA6ILQ co-wrote a book on repeaters a number of years ago and referenced with an illustration and text how such a repeater would work. Would be fun to play with sometime... Still good reading by the way. Laryn K8TVZ -- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
Gary Glaenzer wrote: the term 'simplex repeater' was coined by one of the 'el cheapo' 2-way makers about 1978 or so it was marketed as the 'SARR'Simplex Audio Recorder / Repeater it never caught on Gary Seems to me the first one I heard of actually had a tape loop in it...|cP
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
correct - Original Message - From: wd8chl To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater Gary Glaenzer wrote: the term 'simplex repeater' was coined by one of the 'el cheapo' 2-way makers about 1978 or so it was marketed as the 'SARR'Simplex Audio Recorder / Repeater it never caught on Gary Seems to me the first one I heard of actually had a tape loop in it...|cP -- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2023 - Release Date: 03/25/09 18:54:00
[Repeater-Builder] Off-topic: Internet controllable rotator and receivers
I am hoping someone can help me avoid re-inventing the wheel. I am looking for an antenna rotator that can be controlled remotely by computer. Additionally, I am looking for an FM broadcast receiver (with HD preferrably) that can be controlled remotely as well. Thanks! James WJ1D
[Repeater-Builder] Mobile Antenna
Hello: I presently have a dual band 2 and 70 cm antenna on the rear trunk deck of my car. In addition to this dual band antenna, I have a 900 MHz antenna a few feet away from it. Is there a dual 220 and 900 MHz mobile antenna on the market, or do I need to build one. If the latter, has anyone done it or have construction info on it? There is a 2M/220/440 mobile antenna available from Comet and Diamond, but I would like to have the two separate dual banders. Ciao, Tony, K3WX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] cat1000 controller and alinco dr235t remote issue
The COR on the Alinco radios is an open collector that goes to ground when a signal is received. These radios can be configured as back-to-back crossband repeaters by simply connecting the interface of one radio to the interface of the other radio. If you can configure the CAT 1000 for a negative going COR input you may only need to add a pull up resistor to the COR output of the Alinco radio to get it to transition. If the CAT 1000 requires a positive transition for COR input, you will need to add a transistor inverter in addition to the pullup resistor. 10K would be a good value to use as the pullup with one end connected to the COR output of the radio and the other end connected to + 12 VDC. If you need any help with the inverter, let me know. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Joe Landers ke4...@ke4eue.org wrote: From: Joe Landers ke4...@ke4eue.org Subject: [Repeater-Builder] cat1000 controller and alinco dr235t remote issue To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 8:25 PM I was wondering if anyone in the group has ever used a alinco 135/235/435 radio as a remote base with a cat 1000 controller. I have a issue with this setup not broadcasting what the remote receives. The radio broadcast what the repeater sends but does not go the other way. I am using the 9 pin connector on the radio. Thanks Joe Landers Ke4eue
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater
I saw this work once back in the '70s when the Ft Worth TX 146.94 repeater was configured to retransmit the 146.94 output of the Little Rock AR repeater. This was possible because the Ft Worth repeater receiver was at 1000 ft with its transmitter at 500 ft. 440 Links back to the control operator for 146.94 as well as 146.34 allowed him to patch the 94 received signal to the 94 transmitter. The repeater would howl during stand down for the Little Rock repeater, but I carried on a conversation with a station in Little Rock through this lash up. Obviously the band was open for the over 200 mile path between Little Rock and Ft Worth. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: simplex repeater To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:25 PM These setups would simultaneously transmit on the same frequency. Has anyone else seen such application notes or booklets??? Burt VE2BMQ None other than our own Mike WA6ILQ co-wrote a book on repeaters a number of years ago and referenced with an illustration and text how such a repeater would work. Would be fun to play with sometime... Still good reading by the way. Laryn K8TVZ ___
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB
In the early '70s I coordinated a repeater in Texas(146.985) between a 146.97 repeater in Dallas and a 147.70 repeater near Sherman. One was 50 miles and the other about 40 miles away. My coordination required that I not have any complaint from either already established repeater to continue my operation. I operated this repeater for quite a few years before Texas shifted to a 20 kHz spacing plan, when I was assigned a 147.16 frequency. I never had any complaint while using a Spectrum transmitter and receiver which I had assembled on a chassis with a homebrew controller. I am sure that many of the CA repeaters using this band plan operate without any problems, so it is a workable band plan, proved many times. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 3/25/09, n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com wrote: From: n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:54 PM At 3/25/2009 15:35, you wrote: Back in the day, a channel was 30 kHz wide. When they were split to meet demand, California was not the only coordination jurisdiction which chose to put the half channels upside down. From what I gather from the old-timers, it was easier to protect your input from a single, consistent signal, (the other repeater's output,) 15 kHz off your input but far away, than it was to deal with an ever-changing pool of users who could be right under your site, trying to work the distant repeater with high power and frequency tolerance inferior to the distant repeater. Precisely, Paul. Glad to see others have figured out the reasoning behind our oft-trashed bandplan. The best part is that with a little extra planning spec'ing, 60 or even 40 mile separation isn't necessarily required to make it work, although you've got to use good equipment - no 30 kHz channel-spec' d radios without modifications. California had to be first in finding solutions to many band-crowding issues. Maybe hams there will be the first to narrow-band? Our 4 D-Star pairs are spacing @ 10 kHz; no interference complaints so far. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in on that. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... wrote: Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which are we talking about? Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in on that. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... wrote: Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
It is a repetare antenna, not mobile. If that part number googles as a mobile, maybe that is not the correct number --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote: I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which are we talking about? Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in on that. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
Mark My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote: I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which are we talking about? Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in on that. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
It could be a TDD-6082 See here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf Bill - W6CBS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola Mark My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote: I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which are we talking about? Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in on that. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel DB-4076
I have a similar DB six element folded dipole antenna that I trying to resurrect. This antenna has been lying outside next to the garage for who knows how long. I do know it is in the 440-465 range, the elements were relocated around the mast from the original long before I got it. I put the elements back in line as best as I could using what look like the original locations on the mast. I does not test very well. Photos are here on RB: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/1010903420/pic/list Thanks for the help, Motarolla Doc
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB
Jim, your example does not have the inputs on top of the outputs. You have outputs side by side 15 MHz apart. That's common in a lot of places (including Colorado here). They're talking about inputs 15 KHz away from outputs. That's a tad more difficult. Bob, I understand the THEORY of California's bandplan, but in reality, users rarely push that much power. I do see that you guys limit deviation -- which is the key to making it all work wedged in that tight. I get it, but I don't. if you know what I mean. (GRIN) Back to monitoring all of the blizzard traffic on the local repeaters. everyone's all fired up here over a regular Colorado March upslope snowstorm. Haven't been enough storms this year, obviously -- everyone's all a-twitter about a maximum of 2' of snow, with many areas getting less. Only 12 in my backyard so far. Maybe we should ship some of our Califoriadoans (Californians who moved to Colorado in the 90's) out to Albany, NY or something so they can see REAL snow. hahaha. Some lake effect dumpage would get their snow-o-meters recalibrated in their heads. Schools closed, shelters open here. Whatever! Bunch'a 4WD driving soccer moms in this town, these days. NWS issuing a Blizzard Warning for the metro Denver area without 3 hours of sustained 35 MPH winds, is almost shameful. This is just a snowstorm. not a blizzard. Sheesh. Wimps. ARES is out running nets for shelters and stuff. I guess it's good practice for 'em. We're out of donuts, over. I'm always glad to hear the repeaters getting used, but sometimes you do have to laugh at us hams. (sigh vs. grin on this one). Trying to keep this mini-rant on-topic, sorry! I did have fun driving around earlier laughing at all the green Priuses sliding all over the place on their low-rolling-resistance tires. Wonder how green they are upside down in the ditch, and later in the scrap yard? Hah. I just crawled along in the proper vehicle for where we live. the Jeep Cherokee. The Jeep, the 4 BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's, proper cold weather clothes, the bag with the tire chains, tow straps and other snow driving goodies just in case, and off ya go. smooth driving helps too, of course. we need a whole winter of this, maybe it'd scare some of these people into moving away. LOL! /me turns curmudgeon mode off now. sorry! Had to rant. Nate WY0X From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:28 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB In the early '70s I coordinated a repeater in Texas(146.985) between a 146.97 repeater in Dallas and a 147.70 repeater near Sherman. One was 50 miles and the other about 40 miles away. My coordination required that I not have any complaint from either already established repeater to continue my operation. I operated this repeater for quite a few years before Texas shifted to a 20 kHz spacing plan, when I was assigned a 147.16 frequency. I never had any complaint while using a Spectrum transmitter and receiver which I had assembled on a chassis with a homebrew controller. I am sure that many of the CA repeaters using this band plan operate without any problems, so it is a workable band plan, proved many times. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 3/25/09, n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com wrote: From: n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:54 PM At 3/25/2009 15:35, you wrote: Back in the day, a channel was 30 kHz wide. When they were split to meet demand, California was not the only coordination jurisdiction which chose to put the half channels upside down. From what I gather from the old-timers, it was easier to protect your input from a single, consistent signal, (the other repeater's output,) 15 kHz off your input but far away, than it was to deal with an ever-changing pool of users who could be right under your site, trying to work the distant repeater with high power and frequency tolerance inferior to the distant repeater. Precisely, Paul. Glad to see others have figured out the reasoning behind our oft-trashed bandplan. The best part is that with a little extra planning spec'ing, 60 or even 40 mile separation isn't necessarily required to make it work, although you've got to use good equipment - no 30 kHz channel-spec' d radios without modifications. California had to be first in finding solutions to many band-crowding issues. Maybe hams there will be the first to narrow-band? Our 4 D-Star pairs are spacing @ 10 kHz; no interference complaints so far. Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola
Could be. Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'. The Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA lengths for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 22'. Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion of the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's just a guess at this point. Doug N3DAB -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6...@... wrote: It could be a TDD-6082 See here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf Bill - W6CBS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola Mark My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote: I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which are we talking about? Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in on that. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you know who made this for Motorola? --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote: It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ wrote: Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all, and have a great day!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB
Actually the Texas band plan was like theirs, my output was on 146.385 with an input on 146.985 between the 146.97 and 147.00 outputs. Texas did not keep it for long though, before converting everyone to 20 kHz spacing instead of the original 30 kHz with the splinters 15 kHz away but upside down to the original 30 kHz band plan. Sorry I was not clear on my post as to where my output was located. It seemed to work OK as far as I could tell. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 5:18 PM Jim, your example does not have the inputs on top of the outputs. You have outputs side by side 15 kHz apart. That’s common in a lot of places (including Colorado here). They’re talking about inputs 15 KHz away from outputs. That’s a tad more difficult. .
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Blizzard in CO
Mayville, NY has had 278 so far this year. I say so far because we're not out of the woods yet even though it's all gone at the moment. We get lake effect snow (and rain) here and usually get an on-site visit from the folks from The Weather Channel. Albany doesn't get much snow - too far from the Great Lakes. However, Watertown (off the end of Lake Ontario) gets more than we do. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB Maybe we should ship some of our Califoriadoans (Californians who moved to Colorado in the 90's) out to Albany, NY or something so they can see REAL snow. hahaha. Some lake effect dumpage would get their snow-o-meters recalibrated in their heads.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply
I don't know about the supply, but the WORKBENCH looks familiar! Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply
Find the TPN- Number on it. Then Google it. Looks like Mocom 70 era of Motorola Supplies Bill _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD
RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply
I was going to guess Motran, but it's been so long since I've seen one I can't be sure. Take the paper target and the power supply out to a rifle range and go Office Space on it. --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply Find the TPN- Number on it. Then Google it. Looks like Mocom 70 era of Motorola Supplies Bill From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00
[Repeater-Builder] 900MHZ MASTR II
Is there any good use for a 900MHZ MASTR II? I have one with the GETC controller attached. I have looked over all the info I can find and do not see a good way to make this thing work on the ham band. My question is, Is the repeater junk other than the PA? I have a MSF-5000 on 902 and that was a breeze. Just wondering before I start junking it out to make room in my garage for the other 4 MASTR II repeaters I picked up. They are all VHF and UHF. Thanks Dan
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] FCC Ruling on Repeater Definition
Voice mail on a repeater just like our analog repeaters. Still, it is a moot point for a D-STAR repeater as the voice stream is not recorded before being retransmitted. 73, Tom n4zpt Jeff Condit wrote: What do you call it when messages are recorded and then retransmission begins right after reception ends? By this definition it would not constitute a simplex repeater, right? Jeff Condit - Original Message - From: Tom Azlin, N4ZPT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] FCC Ruling on Repeater Definition Hi Kris, A D-STAR repeater never decodes the voice, it just bit regenerates the signal back to the data stream. Yet it is a repeater for sure per the FCC. I would say a linear transponder or translator is a repeater also. the transmit part is active while the receive part is picking up the signal. 73, Tom n4zpt Kris Kirby wrote: The only interesting wrinkle in this is that a linear transponder doesn't retransmit. The signal is never decoded to baseband and retransmitted. Or is it? With I+Q demodulation and remodulation, this could be a point of argument. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
[Repeater-Builder] WTB: NOS / or used working Quantar parts
Looking for the following Motorola modules for a R3 Quantar station. I am band swapping an R4 station to R3 TTE2062/TLN3446 Power Amplifier module TLE5972/TLN3306 Exciter module TRE6282/TLN3314 Receiver / preselector
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Quantar 125 watt Repeater [VHF Range 1]
Hello Group I have a few questions regarding this nine year old rpt. [NOS] As old as it is, I am wondering if the RSS would have to be purchased from Motorola? I plan to use the rpt. in Conventional mode, even though it is ASTRO capable. I have the complete instruction manual[68P81095E05-B] for the rpt., and it appears that it is programmed by a Null Modem cable, connected to the front, or rear? This makes me believe that the cable would connect directly to the Apporiate speed computer, with NO RIB utilized. Is the software Windows 98 type, or can later operating systems be used? Also, from what I read, the only Hands On tuning is the front end recieve helicals...the rest of set up is done with software? I sure am excited to get this rpt. in operation. I am thinking that RSS is going to be the biggest hurdle in getting the machine up and running. I would be interested to hear from anyone who has used this type of rpt., and learn before doing. I certainly do not want to Blow any modules! Thanks for any help and advice. Tim Hardy W7TRH Vashon Is. Wa.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900MHZ MASTR II
Dan; They are quite useable on 927/902. You need to have the reference oscillator which there was one for every 5 stations.. I hope you have it??? Anyhow.. I wrote some Atmel code for a PLL loader for it. If you want to build a loader you can take control of the PLL. The GETC is a sideline issue but could have an AEGIS prom put in it for digital voice if you were so inclined... There are 2 on the air for sure that I ma aware of... and one other in the works that I have spoken to the owner of. I have a schematic for the loader. It interfaces to the PLL control leads in the exciter door... It monitors Lock detect as well as loads words for the rx and tx... If you are interested in none of the above.. I would like to talk about getting ownership and custody :-) Doug KD8B At 07:37 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote: Is there any good use for a 900MHZ MASTR II? I have one with the GETC controller attached. I have looked over all the info I can find and do not see a good way to make this thing work on the ham band. My question is, Is the repeater junk other than the PA? I have a MSF-5000 on 902 and that was a breeze. Just wondering before I start junking it out to make room in my garage for the other 4 MASTR II repeaters I picked up. They are all VHF and UHF. Thanks Dan
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT - Blizzard in CO
Drop them in the middle of Fort Drum, or just the Tug Hill region. I went to college at Clarkson in Potsdam, just to the north; (home of K2CC Clarkson University Amateur radio), and the school only closed 1/2 day for the Blizzard of '77. Even Western New York Buffalo can learn something from them! Now, for real fun, come watch us in North Carolina when it snows. After we've cleaned out the stores of bread, milk eggs before the storm, we sit at home watching the Raleigh newsfolks film all the accidents of people who never learned the physics of objects on ice. Chuk kb4mdz --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote: Mayville, NY has had 278 so far this year. I say so far because we're not out of the woods yet even though it's all gone at the moment. We get lake effect snow (and rain) here and usually get an on-site visit from the folks from The Weather Channel. Albany doesn't get much snow - too far from the Great Lakes. However, Watertown (off the end of Lake Ontario) gets more than we do. Chuck WB2EDV
[Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1
Our repeater is a Kenwood TKR-850-1 and it does it's station ID as CW. The problem is that that ID is far louder audio than the voice volume. I'm a complete newbie at this, and not even at the repeater site. I downloaded the manuals (tkr-750-780-programming-v101.pdf tkr-750-850- function-v101.pdf) but did not see anything there about controlling the audio volume of the station id. Is there a way to turn that down? Thanks! Dave
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB
Nate, All you need is a cooler with a bunch of 807's and some scotch (or whatever you're drinking these days), and you have the snowstorm (aka blizzard) in check. Yes, you're right. In Wisconsin, where I live, 2 inches of snow in the fall or spring brings out the worst of the drivers in the area. Good choice of words . . . . sheesh, wimpy wimpy wimpy. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB Jim, your example does not have the inputs on top of the outputs. You have outputs side by side 15 MHz apart. That's common in a lot of places (including Colorado here). They're talking about inputs 15 KHz away from outputs. That's a tad more difficult. Bob, I understand the THEORY of California's bandplan, but in reality, users rarely push that much power. I do see that you guys limit deviation -- which is the key to making it all work wedged in that tight. I get it, but I don't. if you know what I mean. (GRIN) Back to monitoring all of the blizzard traffic on the local repeaters. everyone's all fired up here over a regular Colorado March upslope snowstorm. Haven't been enough storms this year, obviously -- everyone's all a-twitter about a maximum of 2' of snow, with many areas getting less. Only 12 in my backyard so far. Maybe we should ship some of our Califoriadoans (Californians who moved to Colorado in the 90's) out to Albany, NY or something so they can see REAL snow. hahaha. Some lake effect dumpage would get their snow-o-meters recalibrated in their heads. Schools closed, shelters open here. Whatever! Bunch'a 4WD driving soccer moms in this town, these days. NWS issuing a Blizzard Warning for the metro Denver area without 3 hours of sustained 35 MPH winds, is almost shameful. This is just a snowstorm. not a blizzard. Sheesh. Wimps. ARES is out running nets for shelters and stuff. I guess it's good practice for 'em. We're out of donuts, over. I'm always glad to hear the repeaters getting used, but sometimes you do have to laugh at us hams. (sigh vs. grin on this one). Trying to keep this mini-rant on-topic, sorry! I did have fun driving around earlier laughing at all the green Priuses sliding all over the place on their low-rolling-resistance tires. Wonder how green they are upside down in the ditch, and later in the scrap yard? Hah. I just crawled along in the proper vehicle for where we live. the Jeep Cherokee. The Jeep, the 4 BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's, proper cold weather clothes, the bag with the tire chains, tow straps and other snow driving goodies just in case, and off ya go. smooth driving helps too, of course. we need a whole winter of this, maybe it'd scare some of these people into moving away. LOL! /me turns curmudgeon mode off now. sorry! Had to rant. Nate WY0X From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:28 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB In the early '70s I coordinated a repeater in Texas(146.985) between a 146.97 repeater in Dallas and a 147.70 repeater near Sherman. One was 50 miles and the other about 40 miles away. My coordination required that I not have any complaint from either already established repeater to continue my operation. I operated this repeater for quite a few years before Texas shifted to a 20 kHz spacing plan, when I was assigned a 147.16 frequency. I never had any complaint while using a Spectrum transmitter and receiver which I had assembled on a chassis with a homebrew controller. I am sure that many of the CA repeaters using this band plan operate without any problems, so it is a workable band plan, proved many times. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- On Wed, 3/25/09, n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com wrote: From: n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thank You - Interference Help - WTB To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:54 PM At 3/25/2009 15:35, you wrote: Back in the day, a channel was 30 kHz wide. When they were split to meet demand, California was not the only coordination jurisdiction which chose to put the half channels upside down. From what I gather from the old-timers, it was easier to protect your input from a single, consistent signal, (the other repeater's output,) 15 kHz off your input but far away, than it was to deal with an ever-changing pool of users who could be right under your site, trying to work the distant repeater with high power and
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 900MHZ MASTR II
Dan: I'm in the process of putting one of those on the air now. They were/are referred to as GE-Net 900 stations. As far as I'm aware, there are only a handful of the stations in amateur service. The GETC (General Electric Trunking Controller) is how the station's frequency is set (among other functions) and pretty much useless for amateur use. The transmit frequency is set in the GETC and it automatically sets the receive frequency 39 MHz lower. The GETC actually downloads the info to the station when it is turned on. KD8B has designed a substitute for this function of the GETC. (I see Doug beat me to a reply!) Equally as important as a way to set the rx/tx frequencies is the Master Oscillator. As these stations were usually installed in trunking systems with multiple stations at a location, the MO was designed to supply its high stability output (17.6125 MHz) to multiple stations- the individual stations typically did not have their own MO. The MO would be in its own rack mount case, about the same size as the GETC. The PA is 24 volts. From my research, it will run fine on 28 volts (in fact the LBI indicates that the 24 volt power supply will actually put out up to 28 volts depending on how heavily it is loaded). If you decide it isn't worth messing with, I'd be interested in a spare (and I see Doug would be interested in it too!). Doug K4AC From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 900MHZ MASTR II Is there any good use for a 900MHZ MASTR II? I have one with the GETC controller attached. I have looked over all the info I can find and do not see a good way to make this thing work on the ham band. My question is, Is the repeater junk other than the PA? I have a MSF-5000 on 902 and that was a breeze. Just wondering before I start junking it out to make room in my garage for the other 4 MASTR II repeaters I picked up. They are all VHF and UHF. Thanks Dan
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1
At 05:12 PM 3/26/2009, Dave Nathanson wrote: Our repeater is a Kenwood TKR-850-1 and it does it's station ID as CW. The problem is that that ID is far louder audio than the voice volume. I'm a complete newbie at this, and not even at the repeater site. I downloaded the manuals (tkr-750-780-programming-v101.pdf tkr-750-850- function-v101.pdf) but did not see anything there about controlling the audio volume of the station id. Is there a way to turn that down? Thanks! ---You need the KPG-91D Kenwood software in order to adjust audio levels Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] supply
I can not find a tpn # that is the problem . This supply worked great until it started putting out 22 volts I am thinking of repairing it .but working blind is not my style. Merrill KG4IDD Jeff DePolo wrote: I was going to guess Motran, but it's been so long since I've seen one I can't be sure. Take the paper target and the power supply out to a rifle range and go Office Space on it. --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply Find the TPN- Number on it. Then Google it. Looks like Mocom 70 era of Motorola Supplies Bill From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] supply
Intermittent duty Micor base station power supply.. rather rare, most stations used the HD one. lance - Original Message - From: Merrill To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD -- -- -- -- -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2024 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Quantar 125 watt Repeater [VHF Range 1]
You are correct - the programming is done through a serial connection to a 9-pin PC serial port - no RIB is required. This is normally done through the port on the front of the station. Earlier RSS versions run in DOS, so only a simple computer is required. Newer versions of the software run on Windows so a newer computer running XP will work fine - assuming you have a laptop with a serial port. Otherwise you will need an adapter. I use a Cardbus serial adapter set up as COM1 in an HP laptop running XP and release 14 of the Quantar software. You are also correct that all configuration and alignments - other than the preselector - are done using the computer. The manual provides an alignment process for the preselector which uses a probe technique similar to the MSF alignment process. Alternatively, if you have sweep capable test equipment available it is a snap to remove the preselector from the station and quickly align it on the bench. If you are planning on using the repeater in amateur service you will probably find that it will run desense free at 600 KHz spacing with only a four can duplexer. If you want to use an external controller with the Quantar, it is possible to interface it through the 6809/MRTI connector, however if your station has a wireline interface board, that is the way to go. The wireline interface is standard on the Quantar but can be deleted for a small credit on the initial order. In the station manual, there is a tab called SYSTEM APPLICATIONS Behind that tab you will find information on how to use the wireline and I/O connections to the station to interface external devices such as an amateur controller [e.g. CAT, Link, Arcom] The amount of information in that section seems to have been increased in newer versions of the 81095E05 manual, so if your manual doesn't provide enough to go on, a newer one will. -- --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, afa5tp w7...@... wrote: ... I have a few questions regarding this nine year old rpt. ...
RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply
I have seen that supply on Micor repeaters. David Epley, N9CZV Randolph County Emergency Coordinator 4866N 400E Winchester, Indiana 47394 Home 765.584.7283 Cell765.546.2592 n9...@arrl.net
[Repeater-Builder] Anyone ever used this repeater controller?
http://www2.plus10.com/rc-99.html Supports ICOM transceivers, like the 706.looks interesting. Jim WB8AZP
RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply
At 3/26/2009 16:23, you wrote: I was going to guess Motran, but it's been so long since I've seen one I can't be sure. Take the paper target and the power supply out to a rifle range and go Office Space on it. --- Jeff Something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmGjq3cLG1g No target needed. Bob NO6B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1
The level of the ID can be adjusted in software, do you have it and the interface cable? JT From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Nathanson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1 Our repeater is a Kenwood TKR-850-1 and it does it's station ID as CW. The problem is that that ID is far louder audio than the voice volume. I'm a complete newbie at this, and not even at the repeater site. I downloaded the manuals (tkr-750-780-programming-v101.pdf tkr-750-850- function-v101.pdf) but did not see anything there about controlling the audio volume of the station id. Is there a way to turn that down? Thanks! Dave
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1
At 08:47 PM 3/26/2009, Juan Tellez wrote: The level of the ID can be adjusted in software, do you have it and the interface cable? Contrary to mythology, you do NOT need the special (expensive) Kenwood programming cable. Any ol' straight through serial cable, connected to the DB25 on the back of the TKR, will work. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1
Dave, The CW ID deviation adjustment is step 26 in the service manual alignment section. It is adjusted with your PC when running FPU KPG-91D software. The default setting is +/- 2 kHz, but it can be set to any value you wish. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Nathanson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Station ID volume on kenwood tkr 850-1 Our repeater is a Kenwood TKR-850-1 and it does its station ID as CW. The problem is that that ID is far louder audio than the voice volume. I'm a complete newbie at this, and not even at the repeater site. I downloaded the manuals (tkr-750-780-programming-v101.pdf tkr-750-850- function-v101.pdf) but did not see anything there about controlling the audio volume of the station id. Is there a way to turn that down? Thanks! Dave
Re: [Repeater-Builder] supply
I have one on the shelf, it's a TPN1115A. Intermittent duty Micor Supply. Merrill wrote: I can not find a tpn # that is the problem . This supply worked great until it started putting out 22 volts I am thinking of repairing it .but working blind is not my style. Merrill KG4IDD Jeff DePolo wrote: I was going to guess Motran, but it's been so long since I've seen one I can't be sure. Take the paper target and the power supply out to a rifle range and go Office Space on it. --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply Find the TPN- Number on it. Then Google it. Looks like Mocom 70 era of Motorola Supplies Bill From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] supply can anyone identify this supply thanks in advance Merrill KG4IDD No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00 Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.29/2024 - Release Date: 03/26/09 07:12:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] supply
This schematic should be helpful: www.repeater-builder.com/micor/pdf/tpn1151-1152a-power-supply-schematic.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Henry Wingate Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] supply I have one on the shelf, it's a TPN1115A. Intermittent duty Micor Supply. Merrill wrote: I can not find a tpn # that is the problem . This supply worked great until it started putting out 22 volts I am thinking of repairing it .but working blind is not my style. Merrill KG4IDD
