Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier

2010-07-23 Thread NORM KNAPP
I have one of these amps and the paperwork from cresend/vocom on how to 
tune/align. I will try to locate and scan for the group. It isn't that hard to 
tune. The instructions are clear. I seem to recall that you will need 2 bird 
watt meters, a 50 ohm load capable of handling the power and 13.8vdc power 
supply with amp meter.
73
Norm

- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu Jul 22 23:18:55 2010
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier

  

Excellent... But I would not normally suggest someone go 
inside to try and mod the amplifier down to the Amateur 
Band. Things go smoother when the right people do the job 
with the right parts and knowledge of how to... 

s. 

 Captainlance captainla...@... wrote:
 I've sent a few of these back to cresend, they tuned them 
 for the ham band at minimal cost, and they have worked 
 for years.
 lance n2HBA

 - Original Message - 
 From: skipp025 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:21 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier
 
 
 
 
 
  w5ppb w5ppb@ wrote:
  I have a Vocom amplifier model VVC100-10RF tuned at 
  152.375. I want to tune it for 145.450. Does anybody 
  have tuning instructions ? Thanks !
 
 Most of these type and model amplifiers are not easily 
 re-tuned down to the Ham Bands. And as many Vocom Amplifiers 
 as I have... I don't even know if they've ever provided 
 any type of circuit diagram. I once asked Cresend for 
 a diagram and they wouldn't provide it saying only they 
 should re-tune their amplifier products. I don't buy or 
 recommend Cresend any more... 
 
 I would tell you to flip (sell) the Vocom and buy something 
 already down into the Ham Bands where you can use it 
 without grief. 
 
 s.







[Repeater-Builder] adding a 3/4meter repeater to my site?

2010-07-23 Thread John
I am sure this is a stupid question, or it seems so to me, but I can't find the 
answer anywhere.  

I am thinking about putting a 440 Mhz repeater (or link) for Packet at my 2M 
repeater site.  Can I use the same coax and antenna (multi band) or do I need a 
complete seperate run?  Hoping to save a chunk of change
 ;-)  Of course I'll need seperate cavities and /or duplexer.

Thanks,

John
K2QY



Re: [Repeater-Builder] adding a 3/4meter repeater to my site?

2010-07-23 Thread Jim Lange
John,

You will get as many positive answers as you will negative. That said, the 
proper way would be 2 antennas and 2 runs of coax. If you already have the 
dual band antenna and want to go that route there are several things to 
watch out for. What is the power rating of your antenna? If you have 2 
repeaters putting out 100 watts into an antenna rated at 100 watts, you will 
damage the antenna. At the ground end, you will need a diplexer to split the 
single run of coax into one for each repeater. The diplexer will have the 
same power restrictions as the antenna. Without keeping these two 
restrictions in mind, you may spend more $$ the second time around.

Jim

- Original Message - 
From: John fritzej...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 08:49
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] adding a 3/4meter repeater to my site?


I am sure this is a stupid question, or it seems so to me, but I can't find 
the answer anywhere.

 I am thinking about putting a 440 Mhz repeater (or link) for Packet at my 
 2M repeater site.  Can I use the same coax and antenna (multi band) or do 
 I need a complete seperate run?  Hoping to save a chunk of change
 ;-)  Of course I'll need seperate cavities and /or duplexer.

 Thanks,

 John
 K2QY



 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange VHF PA with power resistor setup problem

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Miller
Ross,

 

Looks like a standard PA on the GE MSTRII.

 

The other board looks like a audio filter or audio generator. These are used 
when the receiver is attached to a voter. It produces the 1950 Hz tone when the 
receiver is not receiving a valid signal and goes away when a valid signal is 
received.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Charles Miller

WD5EEH, Dallas, TX

 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ross Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Strange VHF PA with power resistor setup problem

 







 

Hello Group,

Hey have any of you seen one of these PA's with the power resistors over 
inductors? Came out of a VHF repeater with a IDA control shelf. The problem 
with the PA is intermittent power output. Runs 10watts or 100watts depending on 
if you just smacked it or not. I saw it arc above the second driver after a 
smack when it came up to 100 watts where it looks like there is a lack of 
solder. I was going to poke around literally with a insulated tuning tool but I 
thought I'd ask first.

Also, the other picture attached. I've seen these tone boards before but what 
do they do? Haven't found any documentation on one yet. Even on RB

 

Thanks for reading!

 Ross

www.kc7rjk.net http://www.kc7rjk.net/ 




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[Repeater-Builder] Doug Hall RBI for sale

2010-07-23 Thread K5IN
Good morning,


I am selling a Doug Hall RBI still in the original wrapping.  Sorry, no 
original box but all connectors, pieces and parts are there new and unused.

$330.00 shipped and payment via PayPal and/or postal money orders are 
accepted.

Brian, K5IN 360 239 9757 



[Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?

2010-07-23 Thread tahrens301
Hi folks,

Still working on the hardline duplexer for 6 meters, and have some data I'd 
like to run by you guys.

Running 80 watts out of a Micor tx into the TX bank of cavities.  With
test equipment, get about 100dB notch. (shows 50 watts into dummy load as 
well).. have about 1.5 - 2dB loss through them.

Ok, now I hook the spectrum analyzer up to the receiver port, and I see
about -55dBm.  50 watts = +47dBm, minus the 100dB notch = -53dBm that is pretty 
close to what I'm seeing at the rx antenna port.

Question is:  Should this good enough for a low band micor receiver?

Thanks,

Tim W5FN



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?

2010-07-23 Thread Oz-in-DFW


On 7/23/2010 10:34 AM, tahrens301 wrote:
  

 Hi folks,

 Still working on the hardline duplexer for 6 meters, and have some
 data I'd like to run by you guys.

 Running 80 watts out of a Micor tx into the TX bank of cavities. With
 test equipment, get about 100dB notch. (shows 50 watts into dummy load
 as well).. have about 1.5 - 2dB loss through them.

 Ok, now I hook the spectrum analyzer up to the receiver port, and I see
 about -55dBm. 50 watts = +47dBm, minus the 100dB notch = -53dBm that
 is pretty close to what I'm seeing at the rx antenna port.

This should be good enough.  You probably want the TX freq well below
-30 dBm or so.TX noise should be notched to at least 10 db below the
noise floor at the RX frequency. IF the TX is a Micor or MASTRII of any
stripe, 100 dB at teh RX frequency ought to be fine with margin. 


 Question is: Should this good enough for a low band micor receiver?

 Thanks,

 Tim W5FN


-- 
mailto:o...@ozindfw.net
Oz
POB 93167 
Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport) 






Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread racer
I used this one to get my extra license. 
It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

 http://www.hamtestonline.com/


From: La Rue Communications 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info


  

Good Morning All -

I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread La Rue Communications
Thank you Sir!

Any study reccomendations? I took and passed our local Law Enforcement exam x 3 
with a minimum of studying. MOstly common sense - just curious if its the same 
format?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  I used this one to get my extra license. 
  It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

   http://www.hamtestonline.com/


  From: La Rue Communications 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread Doug Bade
As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of
V.E.'s.

 You may study online and take practice tests online..

 

Doug

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 

  

Good Morning All -

 

I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have
the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or
somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good
for?

 

If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

 

Thanks!

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn





Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread racer
John,
The way Ham Test Online gives the questions to you and the way it give the 
information to you is what make it work.
I did about 1 1/2 hrs a day about 25 hrs total and had no problem getting a 94 
on the extra class.
It had been 26 yrs ago that I got my General so it was great to have it done. I 
love having access to the extra band's.
Good luck you will like it and get your ticket. Just keep at it.


From: La Rue Communications 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info


  

Thank you Sir!

Any study reccomendations? I took and passed our local Law Enforcement exam x 3 
with a minimum of studying. MOstly common sense - just curious if its the same 
format?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  I used this one to get my extra license. 
  It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

   http://www.hamtestonline.com/


  From: La Rue Communications 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn





Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread racer
Yes Doug is right,
 I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry
Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.


From: Doug Bade 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info


  

As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of 
V.E.'s.

 You may study online and take practice tests online..



Doug



From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info



  

Good Morning All -



I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?



If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)



Thanks!



John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn





Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread La Rue Communications
Very cool. Thank you both!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Yes Doug is right,
   I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry
  Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.


  From: Doug Bade 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of 
V.E.'s.

   You may study online and take practice tests online..


  Doug


  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -


  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?


  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)


  Thanks!


  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn




  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread Chris Curtis
You can still probably find a list/calendar of test sessions in your area
from the arrl.org website.

 

Good luck

Kb0wlf

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:26 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 






Very cool. Thank you both!

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

- Original Message - 

From: racer mailto:racer5...@q.com  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 

  

Yes Doug is right,

 I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry

Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.

 

From: Doug Bade mailto:k...@thebades.net  

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 

  

As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of
V.E.'s.

 You may study online and take practice tests online..

Doug

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  

Good Morning All -

I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have
the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or
somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good
for?

If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn








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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?

2010-07-23 Thread Jeff DePolo
 Ok, now I hook the spectrum analyzer up to the receiver port, 
 and I see
 about -55dBm. 50 watts = +47dBm, minus the 100dB notch = 
 -53dBm that is pretty close to what I'm seeing at the rx antenna port.
 
 Question is: Should this good enough for a low band micor receiver?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tim W5FN

Yes, should be good enough for even 500 kHz split.  However, at close tx-rx
offsets, transmitter noise is often more of an issue than carrier
supression, so test your duplexer backwards to make sure you have the same
isolation in the other direction.

And don't forget the noise foor on 6m is usually pretty high, so even if you
have a trace of desense on the bench using a dummy load and lossy tee, you
may not even notice it in the field. 

--- Jeff WN3A




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / controller audio board

2010-07-23 Thread eddie.sinclair
I found the audio board drawing on repeater-builder. Thanks

I have a new problem now, the unit sent some kind of alarm tones, and now the 
multifax and message master seem to be not functioning.

The machine still ID's in c/w and repeats, but the rest of the controls seem to 
be down. I'm not 100% sure where to start looking.

I tried hooking TB-16 and 17 to ground and restarting, but seems this did not 
reset back to blank as I still have an ID.

I'm not sure the unit is responding to tones or not, I have not tried to 
command an output, but I'm pretty sure it will not.

Any ideas?

Eddie



[Repeater-Builder] Repeater help needed in Western VA

2010-07-23 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Fellows,

I haven't had any volunteers yet, so I thought I would plead again:

I am writing on behalf of a customer of mine. He bought a 2M repeater
from me and is having trouble getting it going. I think he needs help
getting his duplexer tuned and cabled correctly. He seems like a nice
enough fellow. He had a fall some time ago that fractured most of his
limbs. Needless to say, getting around is difficult.

At any rate, he has a decibel products 6-8 cans that he is only getting
about 60dB of isolation out of. (A local radio shop tuned them. HIHI)

The local guys around him seem incredibly inept when it comes to
repeaters. One of them even told him that his repeater was upside down
because: that's not how my radio is programmed!! (upside down between
a mobile and repeater setup)

Is there any list member, or does anyone know someone, that is close to
Big Stone Gap, VA 24219 that might be able to give this fellow a hand?
He looks to be about 2 hours NE of Knoxville. I'm sure reasonable
compensation would be offered. I'd help him out myself, but it's a 7
hour drive for me.

Let me know if you'd be willing to give it a shot and I'll put you in
contact with the gentleman directly.

Thanks,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531




Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread chuck wolf
Hi John,

After you study and are confident, schedule the test which is given at Stockton 
Fire Company 14. I took my tech and was asked to take the General. I did not 
pass the General as I was not ready at the time. When I took the general, I 
passed and was asked to take the Extra. Passed that one too. Whoppie!

Good Luck.

Here is the contact information and schedule
 
Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Contact: Thomas M. Zane
(209) 369-0859
Email: n...@comcast.net
VEC: ARRL/VEC
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
3019 McNabb St
Pre-Registration Only!
Register 3 Days Ahead!
Stockton CA 95209-4158



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Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
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Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
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Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
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From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 1:25:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  
Very cool. Thank you both!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn
- Original Message - 
From: racer 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  
Yes Doug is right,
 I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry
Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.


From: Doug Bade 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  
As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of 
V.E.’s.
 You may study online and take practice tests online..
Doug
From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro 
ups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
  
Good Morning All -
I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?
If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)
Thanks!
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn



  

[Repeater-Builder] NSN 6054A 12W speaker schematic ?

2010-07-23 Thread hitekgearhead
Hey Guys. I was looking at the schematic for the above mentioned speaker (thank 
you repeater builder site) and I had a few questions.

First, does anyone know where to find a replacement for the 5184320A99 dual 
op-amp labeled U1?

Secondly, Is this op-amp basically being used as a buffer, preamp, and inverter?

Thirdly, what on earth are pins 3, 4, 5 and pins 10, 11, 12 doing? I have never 
seen so many pins on an op-amp tied together.

Thanks!
Albert





Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
How much do you know about electronics and radio in general ?  If to some 
extent 
, the exam is no problem.  Even less if you have a good memory.  There are 3 
classes now.  The Technician, General. and Extra.  For each one there is a pool 
of about 300 questions and answers .  That is the exect questions and answers 
for the test.  To take the test you have to go to where there are 3 or more 
qulaified examiners.  Some ham clubs give the test every so often and many 
times 
at hamfests (flea markets for hams).
Each class requires about 30 to 50 questions to be answered.  they are all 
multichoice.  I think it is 70% for a passing grade.  When applying for the 
test 
, apply for all 3 classes..  It is usually all the same price. If you pass the 
first one, you can take the next higher test.  There is no code (CW)  test 
now.  
 Somewhere around $ 15  for the test now.  After you are licened , it is good 
for 10 years and does not cost anything to renew it.


That $ 80 is way too much.  You can buy books with the questions and answers or 
download them from places on the internet.  


Go to www.qrz.com  and look for the prictce test.  Give it a try and see how 
well you do.  I have been a ham for over 35 years and can usually hit about 90% 
on the practice test on QRZ.com  in about 10 minuits for each of the 3 tests.  
I 
do that  from time to time when I hear how hard some say the test is.

If you want to learn something about ham radio, go to arrl.org and get one of 
the handbooks.  Think they are around $ 50 now.  You can go to e-bay and get 
some that are a few years old for only a few dollars.
Also at arrl.org look at the amateur rules.  Part 95 of the FCC rules.
Ham radio rules usually differ from comercial rules in that mostly the ham 
rules 
state what you can not do instead of what you can do for many parts.

If you have your comercial license, the test is similar and should be no 
problem.



 




From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:43:34 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




Good Morning All -
 
I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?
 
If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)
 
Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn





  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NSN 6054A 12W speaker schematic ?

2010-07-23 Thread DCFluX
Just by your description of the pins, I would suggest you look at the
LM-380, 2.5W amplifier.  They are tied together as they act as the
chips heatsink.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:19 PM, hitekgearhead
hitekgearh...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hey Guys. I was looking at the schematic for the above mentioned speaker 
 (thank you repeater builder site) and I had a few questions.

 First, does anyone know where to find a replacement for the 5184320A99 dual 
 op-amp labeled U1?

 Secondly, Is this op-amp basically being used as a buffer, preamp, and 
 inverter?

 Thirdly, what on earth are pins 3, 4, 5 and pins 10, 11, 12 doing? I have 
 never seen so many pins on an op-amp tied together.

 Thanks!
 Albert





 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread La Rue Communications
Good chunk of info Ralph! I was just wondering if it was going to be 
multi-guess. :-) Usually the answer is C. I will take your advice to 
consideration, and armed with the rest of the info y'all gave me - should be a 
cakewalk since I am very mechanically inclined. 

Cheers!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ralph Mowery 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  How much do you know about electronics and radio in general ?  If to some 
extent , the exam is no problem.  Even less if you have a good memory.  There 
are 3 classes now.  The Technician, General. and Extra.  For each one there is 
a pool of about 300 questions and answers .  That is the exect questions and 
answers for the test.  To take the test you have to go to where there are 3 or 
more qulaified examiners.  Some ham clubs give the test every so often and many 
times at hamfests (flea markets for hams).
  Each class requires about 30 to 50 questions to be answered.  they are all 
multichoice.  I think it is 70% for a passing grade.  When applying for the 
test , apply for all 3 classes..  It is usually all the same price. If you pass 
the first one, you can take the next higher test.  There is no code (CW)  test 
now.   Somewhere around $ 15  for the test now.  After you are licened , it is 
good for 10 years and does not cost anything to renew it.


  That $ 80 is way too much.  You can buy books with the questions and answers 
or download them from places on the internet.  

  Go to www.qrz.com  and look for the prictce test.  Give it a try and see how 
well you do.  I have been a ham for over 35 years and can usually hit about 90% 
on the practice test on QRZ.com  in about 10 minuits for each of the 3 tests.  
I do that  from time to time when I hear how hard some say the test is.

  If you want to learn something about ham radio, go to arrl.org and get one of 
the handbooks.  Think they are around $ 50 now.  You can go to e-bay and get 
some that are a few years old for only a few dollars.
  Also at arrl.org look at the amateur rules.  Part 95 of the FCC rules.
  Ham radio rules usually differ from comercial rules in that mostly the ham 
rules state what you can not do instead of what you can do for many parts.

  If you have your comercial license, the test is similar and should be no 
problem.



   



--
  From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:43:34 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NSN 6054A 12W speaker schematic ?

2010-07-23 Thread DCFluX
Oops, didn't realize it was the stereo version, Try LM1887.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just by your description of the pins, I would suggest you look at the
 LM-380, 2.5W amplifier.  They are tied together as they act as the
 chips heatsink.

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:19 PM, hitekgearhead
 hitekgearh...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hey Guys. I was looking at the schematic for the above mentioned speaker 
 (thank you repeater builder site) and I had a few questions.

 First, does anyone know where to find a replacement for the 5184320A99 dual 
 op-amp labeled U1?

 Secondly, Is this op-amp basically being used as a buffer, preamp, and 
 inverter?

 Thirdly, what on earth are pins 3, 4, 5 and pins 10, 11, 12 doing? I have 
 never seen so many pins on an op-amp tied together.

 Thanks!
 Albert





 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] NSN 6054A 12W speaker schematic ?

2010-07-23 Thread DCFluX
Err. LM-1877

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops, didn't realize it was the stereo version, Try LM1887.

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just by your description of the pins, I would suggest you look at the
 LM-380, 2.5W amplifier.  They are tied together as they act as the
 chips heatsink.

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:19 PM, hitekgearhead
 hitekgearh...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hey Guys. I was looking at the schematic for the above mentioned speaker 
 (thank you repeater builder site) and I had a few questions.

 First, does anyone know where to find a replacement for the 5184320A99 dual 
 op-amp labeled U1?

 Secondly, Is this op-amp basically being used as a buffer, preamp, and 
 inverter?

 Thirdly, what on earth are pins 3, 4, 5 and pins 10, 11, 12 doing? I have 
 never seen so many pins on an op-amp tied together.

 Thanks!
 Albert





 



 Yahoo! Groups Links








[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread W3ML
 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


John,

You do realize that you can not use Amateur Radio for business communications.  
It is not a business radio license.

73
John, W3ML




Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

2010-07-23 Thread David Struebel
Just want to clarify one thing. As I read the orignal post, I understood it to 
mean that he was inquiring about taking the test on line which is not possible.
All tests are administered through Volunteer Examineers... You can find a local 
group of VEs and testing schedules on the ARRL web site... The only fee is for 
the examination itself and is less than $10. Once you receive the license it is 
good for 10 years and renewable after that. Just a small clarification in case 
that is what the  was being asked.

Dave WB2FTX
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  I used this one to get my extra license. 
  It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

   http://www.hamtestonline.com/


  From: La Rue Communications 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


  


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[Repeater-Builder] RE: [GE Mastr II] Help ID 19C321936G2

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Corey,

That device is definitely for a Mastr II radio, and it definitely plugs into
the same place as a Channel Guard module.  However, I cannot find any
reference to that module in the RBTIP GE files.

Curiously, Dale K0JXI, posted an identical request for info on the same
board, five years ago:
www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg19706.html

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of nativeMT
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:23 PM
To: ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [GE Mastr II] Help ID 19C321936G2

  

Eric,
Here are links to the front and back of the board.

http://kc7mrq.home.bresnan.net/pics/front.jpg

http://kc7mrq.home.bresnan.net/pics/back.jpg

Have a great day,

Corey

--- In ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com mailto:GE-MastrII%40yahoogroups.com ,
Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote:

 Corey,
 
 I'm not surprised, because 19C321936G2 is not a valid module or component
 number. My complete GE microfiche file leaps from 19C321931 to 19C321954.
 Is this number stamped in black ink along one edge of the board? If not,
it
 may be for a hardware item such as the bare PC board or a bracket. Please
 describe what model radio this board is in, and what connections go to and
 from it. A picture would be great.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com mailto:GE-MastrII%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com mailto:GE-MastrII%40yahoogroups.com ]
On
 Behalf Of nativeMT
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:56 PM
 To: ge-mast...@yahoogroups.com mailto:GE-MastrII%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [GE Mastr II] Help ID 19C321936G2
 
 
 
 Am having a hard time finding any information on this board.
 
 Thanks,
 Corey



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Icom OPC-617 Cable

2010-07-23 Thread ryan_151
Im begining to beleive i need some sort of amplifier on my mic or intercom to 
make this work,  Is this a possiblilty? if so where could a person get one? 
THANKS!!




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Duane Hall du...@... wrote:

   The solder jumpers D Data and F Flat only affect the freq response of 
 the transmitted audio. A wrong setting wouldn't interfere with PTT. I 
 think there was a drawing in the manual linked below, illustrating the 
 locations.
 
 Are you grounding the PTT line and have reprogrammed the radio to allow 
 external PTT?
 
 Regarding the speaker, are you getting the audio you need from the 
 connector, but you want to disable the internal speaker? Maybe inserting 
 a 3.5mm plug in the speaker connector on the back will mute the internal 
 speaker. You could put a resistor inside the plug to provide a load.
 
 Duane
 AB8QU
 
 On 7/21/2010 9:13 PM, ryan_151 wrote:
  I connected the OPC-617 as you said but i didnt solder the D or F bead and 
  is probly why it didnt work.  when i recieve audio it comes out the little 
  speaker inside the radio and the PTT wont work to let me transmit.  Im not 
  using any data so i guess i need to solder the D bead, is this Correct?? 
  is the D bead the jumper on the left side of the radio when the display is 
  pointing at you??
 
  THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!





Re: [Repeater-Builder] NSN 6054A 12W speaker schematic ?

2010-07-23 Thread Mike Morris
At 01:19 PM 07/23/10, you wrote:
Hey Guys. I was looking at the schematic for the above mentioned 
speaker (thank you repeater builder site) and I had a few questions.

If anybody's interested it's here:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/genesis/pdfs/nsn6054a-68p81108c39-o.pdf

First, does anyone know where to find a replacement for the 
5184320A99 dual op-amp labeled U1?

I'd look in the National Semiconductor products manual
that covers automotive audio products.
That schematic resembles what I saw in an early 1980s app
note for a car stereo receiver.   LM187something.

Secondly, Is this op-amp basically being used as a buffer, preamp, 
and inverter?

Both halves are being used strictly as an inverting buffer
for out-of-phase audio.

Look carefully at the schematic and remember that
nothing in the input circuit is ground referenced - the
audio input (from the radio) is balanced audio (both
are sides hot, 180 degrees out of phase with each other,
and there's an implied / virtual audio ground) in the
middle.

Each side of the circuitry driving the speaker is a mirror
image of the other, just like the incoming audio is a
mirror image compared to the virtual ground.

Thirdly, what on earth are pins 3, 4, 5 and pins 10, 11, 12 doing?
I have never seen so many pins on an op-amp tied together.

If that chip is the one I'm thinking of its capable of about 2 watts
per channel on it's own.  That takes some heat sinking.
Probably a heat sink for the final transistors inside the opamp.
And if you look closely, pin 1 is audio ground, and pins 3,4,5,
10, 11 and 12 are power ground - and those are switched to
ground by Q3, which is driven by the squelch circuit in the radio.

Thanks!
Albert

Mike WA6ILQ



Re: [Repeater-Builder] adding a 3/4meter repeater to my site?

2010-07-23 Thread Mike Morris
And watch the frequencies - don't have a 147.18 output and try and
run it with a 441 input.  Or a 146.64 output and try and run it with
a 439 link channel.

All it takes is one third harmonic to ruin your whole day.

Mike


At 06:14 AM 07/23/10, you wrote:
John,

You will get as many positive answers as you will negative. That said, the
proper way would be 2 antennas and 2 runs of coax. If you already have the
dual band antenna and want to go that route there are several things to
watch out for. What is the power rating of your antenna? If you have 2
repeaters putting out 100 watts into an antenna rated at 100 watts, you will
damage the antenna. At the ground end, you will need a diplexer to split the
single run of coax into one for each repeater. The diplexer will have the
same power restrictions as the antenna. Without keeping these two
restrictions in mind, you may spend more $$ the second time around.

Jim

- Original Message -
From: John fritzej...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 08:49
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] adding a 3/4meter repeater to my site?


 I am sure this is a stupid question, or it seems so to me, but I can't find
 the answer anywhere.
 
  I am thinking about putting a 440 Mhz repeater (or link) for Packet at my
  2M repeater site.  Can I use the same coax and antenna (multi band) or do
  I need a complete seperate run?  Hoping to save a chunk of change
  ;-)  Of course I'll need seperate cavities and /or duplexer.
 
  Thanks,
 
  John
  K2QY
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] tait t8oo-11 base / portable

2010-07-23 Thread x.tait.tech
If one looks at the diagrames and thinks clearly, one can do away with the
RIB box

Rx Data + Tx Data,  CTS , RTS , DSR

next supply voltages via an external source if needed

Marcus



On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:36 AM, leiclad36 leicla...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:



 hi i have a tait t800-11 im looking for some help i got the software and a
 lead just need the programmer box? so ive been told or any info as to make
 one up any help pls

  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / ...

2010-07-23 Thread william474
You might try and reseat all the ribbon connectors.  They can become  
intermittent.  Does the request for the time work?
 
Bill - WA0CBW
 
 
In a message dated 7/23/2010 2:00:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
kc5...@live.com writes:

I found  the audio board drawing on repeater-builder. Thanks

I have a new  problem now, the unit sent some kind of alarm tones, and now 
the multifax and  message master seem to be not functioning.

The machine still ID's in  c/w and repeats, but the rest of the controls 
seem to be down. I'm not 100%  sure where to start looking.

I tried hooking TB-16 and 17 to ground and  restarting, but seems this did 
not reset back to blank as I still have an  ID.

I'm not sure the unit is responding to tones or not, I have not  tried to 
command an output, but I'm pretty sure it will not.

Any  ideas?

Eddie







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] adding a 3/4meter repeater to my site?

2010-07-23 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Mike Morris wrote:
 And watch the frequencies - don't have a 147.18 output and try and
 run it with a 441 input.  Or a 146.64 output and try and run it with
 a 439 link channel.

 All it takes is one third harmonic to ruin your whole day.
   
Try 441.300 and 441.900 outputs at a site that also has a 2m repeater 
with a 600 kHz input offset...

Matthew Kaufman