Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program
the last time that happened to me I needed a new cable. - Original Message - From: wspx472 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program I got this to work before but now, no joy. I am using CE8 software, have the correct cable, and an older DOS PC. I get either a box saying there was communication problems or it quickly flashes Done! but hasn't actually read the repeater. Is there some special trick I have forgotten?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Stuff For Sale!
what is the input power on the 200 watt Vocom amp? K+John - Original Message - From: n2len To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Stuff For Sale! Motorola RKR-1225 VHF Repeater with Rack Mount Currently programmed for Hamsplit $475 Shipped and Insured Motorola R-1225 UHF Repeater Just Radio and Control Head Unit Hamsplit down to 444MHZ $425 Shipped and Insured Cat 400 Linking Controller and RME-200L Rack Mount with Ed-400W Windows Programming Software $325 Shipped and Insured Cat RLS-1000B Remote Link Switch Board with RME-200L Rack Mount Enclosure. $125.00 Shipped Pacific Research RI-310 Repeater Controller Ror the VXR-5000 Repeater Direct Replacement for the stock Internal Controller Plug Play $400.00 Shipped TPL RXR Series VHF 150 Watt Repeater Amplifier Rack Mount/Fan $375.00 Shipped TPL RXR Series UHF 100 Watt Repeater Amplifier Rack Mount/Fan $350.00 Shipped Two Vocom UHF Repeater Amplifiers Working Condition of both Unknown 100 Watt Factory 462.925 UVC100-10RF $125 Shipped Vocom UHF Repeater Amplifier Working Condition Unknown 200 Watt Factory 462.925 UVC200-80RFF Rack Mount/Fan PAYMENT PAYPAL! E-mail too: n2...@aol.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Out Door Radio Cabinet
have any traffic controllers?
- Original Message -
From: ac6vj
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:41 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Out Door Radio Cabinet
Hi Larry,
I have a stash of traffic signal boxes here in Northern California.
I donate them free of charge to any good Ham cause.
AC6VJ {ac...@cds1.net}
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Larry Watkinson lwatkin...@...
wrote:
I am looking for a outdoor radio cabinet, something like a traffic control
box.
I am in Olympia and would be able to go within 100 miles of Olympia, WA. I
could pay shipping to Olympia if outside of 100 miles.
Larry KC7CKO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Johnson VX power supply.
where are you at? - Original Message - From: wescorapci To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Johnson VX power supply. Anyone have a working EF Johnson Viking power supply they would want to sell? Johnson P/N 548-4001-508 Rev 4 wa9ne
[Repeater-Builder] grms fcc changes please read
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-106A1.pdf here is a rule change to GRMS and other personal radio use.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off-Topic: Shop liability insurance
been doing that for 20 years on all the security and sound systems we sell about 1 to 2 million in coverage our govt. customers want. - Original Message - From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Off-Topic: Shop liability insurance For those that are on the list that own their own two-way shop: Who do you use for a liability carrier and what is your typical monthly/yearly premium? I have a customer I have been dealing with for about 8 years that has decided they won't do business with anyone that does not have liability insurance on the products they vend. It seems rather stupid to me, but I guess that's what happens when lawyers get involved. Input appreciated. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
you should not even think of doing that. - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only thing in reach over my cell? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kd6aaj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell radios preprogrammed with those freqs. and there is an EXCEPTION: Title 47: Telecommunication PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES Subpart N-Operating Requirements § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation. (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the licenses of those stations. (b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person shall program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized. and: § 90.417 Interstation communication. top (a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the communications involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or property. (b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with foreign stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where the communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission must be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government that authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool eligibles with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in accordance with Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, DC, 1949, the provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). [43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997] ---end of CFR regs--- So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for emergency use only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to have an unauthorized frequency programed in your radio? So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS you can prove intent to operate on the unauthorized frequency for NON-emergency communications. The school was operating on the frequency, but they don't say what kind of communication was involved. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: In February, a large two-way radio dealer was issued a Notice Of Violation (NOV) by the FCC for adding a frequency into radios that the customer was not licensed for. The Notice stated that Section 90.427(b) prohibits programming into a transmitter frequencies the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized for. Make sure your customers are licensed for the frequencies you put in radios you sell! Information from Mission Critical Magazine, May 2010. FCC enforcement case NOV 20103298. - Jim Barbour Transcore
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Direct Strike Lightning Detector
Poly phase makes a unit that clamps on the leg of a tower and works very well. John - Original Message - From: Jesse Lloyd To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:32 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Direct Strike Lightning Detector Hey All, I am trying to think of a way to detect if a tower at one of our sites gets a direct hit. I was thinking of paralleling a ground strap with a 10mA amp glass fuse. Maybe make the two connections to the ground stap 2 ft apart and use a fuse holder for fuse testing and replacement. I suspect the fuse would blow if any significant current went down the ground strap (or would the whole thing melt? I suppose either way I'd know!). Ideas? I live in an area that doesn't see a lot of lightning, I'm curious if the tower gets hit. Jesse
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater
look at the new version of the TKR-740 the NXR-700 repeater it is the way to go and get the ver 2 software. John 727-441-3250 - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater Jed Barton j...@... wrote: Hey guys, Need some input here. I'm putting together a public safety repeater for my local FD. It's going to be really simple. Given the reliability factor, we're going with a Kenwood. Here's the million dollar question, i need some input. How about a kenwood tkr750 or a tkr740. I've run several 750s with great results. I have not played with the 740, but i know it has an amazing receiver, but yet only pushes a few watts. Any suggestions for a good amp, perhaps Cresend i think it is. Thanks, Jed Hi Jed, The Kenwood TKR-750 and TKR-740 are both great Repeaters. The TKR-750 also has an amazing receiver. Proper setup of the receiver should normally include the front end pre-selector alignment using a special coax cable jig assembly and a tracking generator properly configured and installed onto the PC-Board matching input and RF sample port/jack. Most people and Dealers tend to do the more casual peak for max signal method, which results in very usable but not the absolute best sensitivity and performance. I'm very much amazed how many repeaters we service with rather odd looking (on the test equipment) tweak and peak front end alignment(s). So be sure to ask any Dealer what and how they prepare your equipment before they send it to you. The TKR-750 is more of a self contained ready to use repeater with a lot of built in features. Very popular for operations toward the 50 watt power level. The TKR-740 is more of system repeater meaning... how many owners often use them with external Power Amplifiers and Controllers. The TKR-740 has much less power output and normal operation assumed by most people is to include an external RF Power Amplifier. If you need to bark higher than a 50 watt signal onto the air the most popular method is to include (and use) an external RF Amplifier. You can save quite a bit of serious money by using the same external amplifier configuration with a TKR-750 Repeater and a higher drive (input) level External Amplifier. There's nothing in stone about driving an external high power RF Amplifier at the 25 to 50 watt level compared to spending a lot more money on a low drive level amplifier. TPL, Cresend and TE can and will sell you higher drive amplifiers for much less money and you end up with pretty much the same end product. In the hopefully rare case where an external amplifier might fail, continued repeater operation at the 25-50 watt power level is quite usable versus the very low power output of the 740 repeater. There can be different advantages to using the TKR-750 or the TKR-740 Repeater. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater
also there is the NXR-710 that replaces the TKR-750 - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater look at the new version of the TKR-740 the NXR-700 repeater it is the way to go and get the ver 2 software. John 727-441-3250 - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater Jed Barton j...@... wrote: Hey guys, Need some input here. I'm putting together a public safety repeater for my local FD. It's going to be really simple. Given the reliability factor, we're going with a Kenwood. Here's the million dollar question, i need some input. How about a kenwood tkr750 or a tkr740. I've run several 750s with great results. I have not played with the 740, but i know it has an amazing receiver, but yet only pushes a few watts. Any suggestions for a good amp, perhaps Cresend i think it is. Thanks, Jed Hi Jed, The Kenwood TKR-750 and TKR-740 are both great Repeaters. The TKR-750 also has an amazing receiver. Proper setup of the receiver should normally include the front end pre-selector alignment using a special coax cable jig assembly and a tracking generator properly configured and installed onto the PC-Board matching input and RF sample port/jack. Most people and Dealers tend to do the more casual peak for max signal method, which results in very usable but not the absolute best sensitivity and performance. I'm very much amazed how many repeaters we service with rather odd looking (on the test equipment) tweak and peak front end alignment(s). So be sure to ask any Dealer what and how they prepare your equipment before they send it to you. The TKR-750 is more of a self contained ready to use repeater with a lot of built in features. Very popular for operations toward the 50 watt power level. The TKR-740 is more of system repeater meaning... how many owners often use them with external Power Amplifiers and Controllers. The TKR-740 has much less power output and normal operation assumed by most people is to include an external RF Power Amplifier. If you need to bark higher than a 50 watt signal onto the air the most popular method is to include (and use) an external RF Amplifier. You can save quite a bit of serious money by using the same external amplifier configuration with a TKR-750 Repeater and a higher drive (input) level External Amplifier. There's nothing in stone about driving an external high power RF Amplifier at the 25 to 50 watt level compared to spending a lot more money on a low drive level amplifier. TPL, Cresend and TE can and will sell you higher drive amplifiers for much less money and you end up with pretty much the same end product. In the hopefully rare case where an external amplifier might fail, continued repeater operation at the 25-50 watt power level is quite usable versus the very low power output of the 740 repeater. There can be different advantages to using the TKR-750 or the TKR-740 Repeater. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater
750 still there but yes the new one will do both - Original Message - From: Jed Barton To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater hmmm, tell me more about that one. Is that the combination analog / digital? Did the tkr750 go away? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater also there is the NXR-710 that replaces the TKR-750 - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios mailto:maire-rad...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater look at the new version of the TKR-740 the NXR-700 repeater it is the way to go and get the ver 2 software. John 727-441-3250 - Original Message - From: skipp025 mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater Jed Barton j...@... wrote: Hey guys, Need some input here. I'm putting together a public safety repeater for my local FD. It's going to be really simple. Given the reliability factor, we're going with a Kenwood. Here's the million dollar question, i need some input. How about a kenwood tkr750 or a tkr740. I've run several 750s with great results. I have not played with the 740, but i know it has an amazing receiver, but yet only pushes a few watts. Any suggestions for a good amp, perhaps Cresend i think it is. Thanks, Jed Hi Jed, The Kenwood TKR-750 and TKR-740 are both great Repeaters. The TKR-750 also has an amazing receiver. Proper setup of the receiver should normally include the front end pre-selector alignment using a special coax cable jig assembly and a tracking generator properly configured and installed onto the PC-Board matching input and RF sample port/jack. Most people and Dealers tend to do the more casual peak for max signal method, which results in very usable but not the absolute best sensitivity and performance. I'm very much amazed how many repeaters we service with rather odd looking (on the test equipment) tweak and peak front end alignment(s). So be sure to ask any Dealer what and how they prepare your equipment before they send it to you. The TKR-750 is more of a self contained ready to use repeater with a lot of built in features. Very popular for operations toward the 50 watt power level. The TKR-740 is more of system repeater meaning... how many owners often use them with external Power Amplifiers and Controllers. The TKR-740 has much less power output and normal operation assumed by most people is to include an external RF Power Amplifier. If you need to bark higher than a 50 watt signal onto the air the most popular method is to include (and use) an external RF Amplifier. You can save quite a bit of serious money by using the same external amplifier configuration with a TKR-750 Repeater and a higher drive (input) level External Amplifier. There's nothing in stone about driving an external high power RF Amplifier at the 25 to 50 watt level compared to spending a lot more money on a low drive level amplifier. TPL, Cresend and TE can and will sell you higher drive amplifiers for much less money and you end up with pretty much the same end product. In the hopefully rare case where an external amplifier might fail, continued repeater operation at the 25-50 watt power level is quite usable versus the very low power output of the 740 repeater. There can be different advantages to using the TKR-750 or the TKR-740 Repeater. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater
Cresend yes very good we use a lot of it. - Original Message - From: Jed Barton To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater Hey there, so it sounds like the tkr750 might be the way to go. I've heard the cresend stuff is awesome. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:38 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater Jed Barton j...@... wrote: Hey guys, Need some input here. I'm putting together a public safety repeater for my local FD. It's going to be really simple. Given the reliability factor, we're going with a Kenwood. Here's the million dollar question, i need some input. How about a kenwood tkr750 or a tkr740. I've run several 750s with great results. I have not played with the 740, but i know it has an amazing receiver, but yet only pushes a few watts. Any suggestions for a good amp, perhaps Cresend i think it is. Thanks, Jed Hi Jed, The Kenwood TKR-750 and TKR-740 are both great Repeaters. The TKR-750 also has an amazing receiver. Proper setup of the receiver should normally include the front end pre-selector alignment using a special coax cable jig assembly and a tracking generator properly configured and installed onto the PC-Board matching input and RF sample port/jack. Most people and Dealers tend to do the more casual peak for max signal method, which results in very usable but not the absolute best sensitivity and performance. I'm very much amazed how many repeaters we service with rather odd looking (on the test equipment) tweak and peak front end alignment(s). So be sure to ask any Dealer what and how they prepare your equipment before they send it to you. The TKR-750 is more of a self contained ready to use repeater with a lot of built in features. Very popular for operations toward the 50 watt power level. The TKR-740 is more of system repeater meaning... how many owners often use them with external Power Amplifiers and Controllers. The TKR-740 has much less power output and normal operation assumed by most people is to include an external RF Power Amplifier. If you need to bark higher than a 50 watt signal onto the air the most popular method is to include (and use) an external RF Amplifier. You can save quite a bit of serious money by using the same external amplifier configuration with a TKR-750 Repeater and a higher drive (input) level External Amplifier. There's nothing in stone about driving an external high power RF Amplifier at the 25 to 50 watt level compared to spending a lot more money on a low drive level amplifier. TPL, Cresend and TE can and will sell you higher drive amplifiers for much less money and you end up with pretty much the same end product. In the hopefully rare case where an external amplifier might fail, continued repeater operation at the 25-50 watt power level is quite usable versus the very low power output of the 740 repeater. There can be different advantages to using the TKR-750 or the TKR-740 Repeater. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater
I know Kenwood, Icom and Motorola on a open format. - Original Message - From: Larry Horlick To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater The digital side is Kenwood Nextedge, is it not? Does this mean that only Kenwood mobiles can be used? lh On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote: hmmm, tell me more about that one. Is that the combination analog / digital? Did the tkr750 go away? -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater also there is the NXR-710 that replaces the TKR-750 - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios mailto:maire-rad...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater look at the new version of the TKR-740 the NXR-700 repeater it is the way to go and get the ver 2 software. John 727-441-3250 - Original Message - From: skipp025 mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: opinions for a public safety repeater Jed Barton j...@... wrote: Hey guys, Need some input here. I'm putting together a public safety repeater for my local FD. It's going to be really simple. Given the reliability factor, we're going with a Kenwood. Here's the million dollar question, i need some input. How about a kenwood tkr750 or a tkr740. I've run several 750s with great results. I have not played with the 740, but i know it has an amazing receiver, but yet only pushes a few watts. Any suggestions for a good amp, perhaps Cresend i think it is. Thanks, Jed Hi Jed, The Kenwood TKR-750 and TKR-740 are both great Repeaters. The TKR-750 also has an amazing receiver. Proper setup of the receiver should normally include the front end pre-selector alignment using a special coax cable jig assembly and a tracking generator properly configured and installed onto the PC-Board matching input and RF sample port/jack. Most people and Dealers tend to do the more casual peak for max signal method, which results in very usable but not the absolute best sensitivity and performance. I'm very much amazed how many repeaters we service with rather odd looking (on the test equipment) tweak and peak front end alignment(s). So be sure to ask any Dealer what and how they prepare your equipment before they send it to you. The TKR-750 is more of a self contained ready to use repeater with a lot of built in features. Very popular for operations toward the 50 watt power level. The TKR-740 is more of system repeater meaning... how many owners often use them with external Power Amplifiers and Controllers. The TKR-740 has much less power output and normal operation assumed by most people is to include an external RF Power Amplifier. If you need to bark higher than a 50 watt signal onto the air the most popular method is to include (and use) an external RF Amplifier. You can save quite a bit of serious money by using the same external amplifier configuration with a TKR-750 Repeater and a higher drive (input) level External Amplifier. There's nothing in stone about driving an external high power RF Amplifier at the 25 to 50 watt level compared to spending a lot more money on a low drive level amplifier. TPL, Cresend and TE can and will sell you higher drive amplifiers for much less money and you end up with pretty much the same end product. In the hopefully rare case where an external amplifier might fail, continued repeater operation at the 25-50 watt power level is quite usable versus the very low power output of the 740 repeater. There can be different advantages to using the TKR-750 or the TKR-740 Repeater. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group
have been using TX RX for years on a number of tower sites. - Original Message - From: Brian Raker To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group Telewave Wireless will set you up with a 4-channel 450MHz 150 watt low-loss combiner for ~8k. http://www.telewave.com/pricelist/106-450combiners.html -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:17 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: We use many ham and commercial repeaters using the same antennas, but require the proper filtering. A mobile duplexer is not sutable for what you are trying to do here. You can get a transmit combiner Hybrid or cavity for the transmitters and use a receiver multicoupler that has a dual window one for the ham receive and one for the commercial receive or use a cavity combiner for the receiver. That was is my preferred method, more isolation but costs much more. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Merrill Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group I have a very broad band uhf antenna on a tower . I would like to run a 440 MHz machine and a 462 MHz machine off of the same antenna . Can I use a notch type mobile duplexer to combine the 2 machines to 1 ant for both TX and RX to notch the respective TX freqs after the duplexers that are on the 2 machines . Merrill KG4IDD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking to buy UHF Repeaters
Got both Kenwood TKR-850, TKR-840 and Icom FR-4000 and FR-6000 in stock let me know John (727) 441-3250 Clearwater, Fl. - Original Message - From: ray kalbfeld To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking to buy UHF Repeaters Anyone selling UHF Repeater in 450-470 MHZ bandwidth please advise and send information, pictures and other to me thank you ray Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems
we have used TE, Henry, Volcom and TPL. Volcom and TPL have great service TE got a 150 watt and UHF and no matter what we do to it only puts out 120 watts came with paper work that show tested at 134 watts on a 150 watt amp. Had no luck to get this corrected. Will never but a TE amp ever if it was at very low cost. go with a good brand spend a bit more but it works and works Volcom 1ST TPL 2nd John - Original Message - From: James Adkins To: repeater-builder Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems Okay all, looking for opinions. Our club is going to purchase a 220 amplifier and a 440 amplifier for our repeaters. For 220, we're looking at either the TE Systems 2210RAN or the Henry C100B10R For UHF, it's either the TE Systems 4412RA or the Henry C100D30R. We have a Henry C300C30R in use for about 3-1/2 years now (running it at 250w output) on our 6-meter repeater and had to send it in about 13 months into its life to have the finals replaced. No problems since, though. I was pleased with Henry's response to the problem. Even though it was out of warranty, they fixed it under warranty. Though the TE systems amplifiers have more output (150w vs 100w), I have concerns about their reliability. The local D* repeater has had a lot of problems with their VHF amplifier, and it's not very clean (of course, that could be the fault of the D* repeater transmitter, too!). What are your opinions, TE Systems vs Henry? -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems
Crescend and Volcom same co. why would you put in a 100 watt PA and try to run it down to 35 watts it is the same problem if you take a Motorola Micor repeater 75 watt unit and try to do low power with it same problems. - Original Message - From: James Adkins To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems TPL I will never consider. We used their 300-W amps for low-band at work, they'd oscillate unless we put in a second TR Relay with a 50-ohm dummy load, then they'd burn up. Not to mention, the 100-w ones we had were very dirty if we ran them above 35w or so. One brand I considered was Crescend for UHF, they are rock solid. But, they don't make a 220 amp. Will check into Volcom, never heard of them. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Maire-Radios maire-rad...@verizon.net wrote: we have used TE, Henry, Volcom and TPL. Volcom and TPL have great service TE got a 150 watt and UHF and no matter what we do to it only puts out 120 watts came with paper work that show tested at 134 watts on a 150 watt amp. Had no luck to get this corrected. Will never but a TE amp ever if it was at very low cost. go with a good brand spend a bit more but it works and works Volcom 1ST TPL 2nd John - Original Message - From: James Adkins To: repeater-builder Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems Okay all, looking for opinions. Our club is going to purchase a 220 amplifier and a 440 amplifier for our repeaters. For 220, we're looking at either the TE Systems 2210RAN or the Henry C100B10R For UHF, it's either the TE Systems 4412RA or the Henry C100D30R. We have a Henry C300C30R in use for about 3-1/2 years now (running it at 250w output) on our 6-meter repeater and had to send it in about 13 months into its life to have the finals replaced. No problems since, though. I was pleased with Henry's response to the problem. Even though it was out of warranty, they fixed it under warranty. Though the TE systems amplifiers have more output (150w vs 100w), I have concerns about their reliability. The local D* repeater has had a lot of problems with their VHF amplifier, and it's not very clean (of course, that could be the fault of the D* repeater transmitter, too!). What are your opinions, TE Systems vs Henry? -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood Dealer Plug)
we have had good luck with them on 6.25 digital and you? - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood Dealer Plug) OK let me give you another dealer input Yes we are a Kenwood and also an Icom dealer. From our own use we for our in house systems use both brands of repeaters. If I was going to do a 2 meter today I would use the ICOM FR-5000 the new 50 watt unit. A Government Customer bought some of the newer generation Icom Repeaters from another dealer for a pretty good size LTR Trunking System. I was asked by the Trunking Controller Mfgr (CSI) to help trouble-shoot an on-going drop out problem, which was traced back to the discriminator output of the Icom Receiver. The receiver would chop/slice sections of the recovered discriminator signal well within the normal expected bandwidth. The customer ended up replacing those receiver models with different equipment. And they/we found the problem with more than one Icom Repeater Receiver Model. I would suggest new buyers of what I call the newer low tier/cost Icom Repeaters have a look at the receiver discriminator output with a service monitor (scope) so you aren't fighting a non uniform discriminator output problem... not so easily fixed. Icom like all the others makes some pretty decent gear... but some of the newer lower tier repeaters have that known issue, which I feel is pretty darn important to know about when starting out. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood Dealer Plug)
OK let me give you another dealer input Yes we are a Kenwood and also an Icom dealer. From our own use we for our in house systems use both brands of repeaters. GMRS Kenwood TKR-850 2 meter Kenwood TKR-751 control 210 and TPL amp 3 ICOM FR-6000 repeater happy with all and also have a FR-4000 for sale that was used in house to ID on a tower at low power only So what would I buy got all 3 and very happy with them. If I was going to do a 2 meter today I would use the ICOM FR-5000 the new 50 watt unit. check it out. John - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood Dealer Plug) Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood Dealer Plug) My turn, As an Authorized Kenwood Sales and Full Service Dealer with easily more than 50 Kenwood Version 2 TKR-750 TKR-850 Repeaters going full tilt (full rated output power) 24/7 ... I've never ever had to repair one. In fact, the only Kenwood TKR-850 Repeater we've ever had to really fix was sent in from out of state, struck by lightning... and that fix was relatively easy (all things considered). We do carefully pop the access cover off to properly set-up the Receiver Pre-Selector up using a very specialized RF Cable few other Dealers have/use (yeah, we sell them). But after a proper Dealer Setup, they live quite happily at their max rated power even if not rated on paper as such. And of course we also throw out the same we can't officially recommend it disclaimer. And... We still service the older TKR-720 and TKR-820 Repeaters. I doubt most people would be able over-heat and kill the PA in a New Kenwood TKR-750 or TKR-850 repeater (with free air movement around the exhaust fan opening)... even if they tried (and I've seen a few examples where people seem to have with out luck, tried to kill a repeater). cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com Authorized Kenwood Pyramid Sales and Service (Dealer) (707) 678-4187 (707) 446-3419 cell k7...@... wrote: Hi Ken and Norm, On my UHF LTR system I have several home channels in the 5 ch system that are almost continuous transmit during the date time. I have the TKR850's running at 35wt and they have survived for two years so far with no ill affects. At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood DealerPlug)
For the Kenwood also look at the TKR 740 and TKR 840 units the receive is very good. John - Original Message - From: Tim Herron To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood DealerPlug) So for all of you super experienced repeater builders out there, this is probably sound elementry. I am very new to repeater building. I have been working with Moto gear almost exclusively. But after viewing the interior components and the programming of the new Kenwood TKR- repeaters, I would say that they are the way to go.. They are easier to work on than the Moto stuff, and the recievers are much more sensative than the Moto stuff that I have been using... Skipp, not a Shameless Plug, you speak the truth! Excellent gear. Tim On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:42 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: Re: 50 Watt Repeater (Shameless Kenwood Dealer Plug) My turn, As an Authorized Kenwood Sales and Full Service Dealer with easily more than 50 Kenwood Version 2 TKR-750 TKR-850 Repeaters going full tilt (full rated output power) 24/7 ... I've never ever had to repair one. In fact, the only Kenwood TKR-850 Repeater we've ever had to really fix was sent in from out of state, struck by lightning... and that fix was relatively easy (all things considered). We do carefully pop the access cover off to properly set-up the Receiver Pre-Selector up using a very specialized RF Cable few other Dealers have/use (yeah, we sell them). But after a proper Dealer Setup, they live quite happily at their max rated power even if not rated on paper as such. And of course we also throw out the same we can't officially recommend it disclaimer. And... We still service the older TKR-720 and TKR-820 Repeaters. I doubt most people would be able over-heat and kill the PA in a New Kenwood TKR-750 or TKR-850 repeater (with free air movement around the exhaust fan opening)... even if they tried (and I've seen a few examples where people seem to have with out luck, tried to kill a repeater). cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com Authorized Kenwood Pyramid Sales and Service (Dealer) (707) 678-4187 (707) 446-3419 cell k7...@... wrote: Hi Ken and Norm, On my UHF LTR system I have several home channels in the 5 ch system that are almost continuous transmit during the date time. I have the TKR850's running at 35wt and they have survived for two years so far with no ill affects. At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.
have been running a Kenwood TKR-751 / TPL pa 100watts and a RC-210 works great
John
PS we are both a Kenwood and Icom dealer and on a GMRS we have a FR-4000.
- Original Message -
From: NORM KNAPP
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.
Thanks for the input.
I have the software and will read it out in a day or two. It has both fans
and is definitely VHF. I belonged to a local FD. Originally it was used as a
base station. Later it was reprogrammed as a repeater. Lightening got the
motorola tone remote card and the city decided to upgrade to a two site uhf
nexedge kenwood system. The repeater then fell into my lap in exchange for a
set of duplexers, the town pd had a mtr-2000 as well and we want to put it on
2m as well. Looks like that may not happen. I may be looking to trade for a
kenwood tkr-750/751.
Thanks again.
I will read out soon. Maybe I will get lucky and it will be the 136-154
split.
73
- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue Nov 17 07:30:01 2009
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.
Norm,
Assuming that your radio is VHF (what were the existing operating
frequencies?); the VHF radio comes in two bandsplits in the high power VHF
station. There is no way to change one bandsplit to the other. I was
involved with a project where incorrect frequencies were entered by someone
doing an order resulting in a range 1 receiver and a range two transmitter.
The radio ended up being sent back to the factory and replaced by an
entirely new unit to correct the problem.
The best way to proceed at this point is to have someone with the proper RSS
read the radio and give you a printout of the existing codeplug.
Milt
N3LTQ
- Original Message -
From: NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mtr-2000 for 2m use.
I recently obtained a Motorola MTR-2000. It took a lightening hit to the
tone remote board, but the repeat functions fine. Upon close inspection, it
appears this unit was originally used as a base station before it was a
repeater by evidence of ant rel installed. Also it does not have a
preselector on the rear. My question is, will this thing work on 2m and
will I have to come up with a motorola preselector to use with a 600khz
split? S/N 474CZT03xx F.O.: 0960-5003-40067 model no: T5766A type no:
FO306B.
Thanks es 73
Norm
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help resetting Zetron 38A
well the tone for 15 sec only resets the unit if locked up and not the program. never heard of the pins 3 and 4 so I am not sure if I would try it the RS232 defaults as far as I know to off but when you remove the EPROM from the battery pack under (if you have one) it will put it back to the factory program and you will need DTMF to program it. - Original Message - From: wspx472 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need help resetting Zetron 38A I have a 38A and don't know the password. I have tried sending a DTMF digit for 15 seconds, shorting pins 3, 4 on the RS232 jack, and removed the EPROM and re inserted after reading that this worked. Now, it seems brain dead and won't even respond to RS232 input. Does anyone know a foolproof way to reset this back to factory defaults? Thank
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable
we get all of ours from Tessco. - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable I just did that as well, nice cables, but it looks like they use lead free solder. Pasternack makes cables, but they have $100 minimum order, which isn't that hard to meet as they are typically 3-6dB more than their competitors. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com wrote: AI just bought several pre-made connectors from Advanced Receiver Research...but I'm sure you can buy the raw cable and make up your own, as well. de KM3W --- On Sun, 10/25/09, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:17 PM Hello, What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go from the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter? What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater
well take the 9.6 volt circuit off of the TPN1121a and go from there no transformer John - Original Message - From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater Maybe you missed a key part... Site owner does not want a micor power supply. The 12V only is not the issue - it's the fact that the chassis has to be run off 12V when it requires a 9.6V secondary supply. (unless you put the TPN1121A in a big, black box and call it a 9.6V converter) ;- Joe M. burkleoj wrote: Ralph, Motorola did make a special power supply for running the Micor station off of a 12 volt battery system. It is Model TPN1121A. They are fairly rare but very nice. I use these on our solar sites here in Western Oregon for our Micor repeaters. I would be surprised if you could not come up with one of the TPN1121A power supplies in your part of the country, where solar sites are fairly common. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ralph S. Turk w7...@... wrote: I am building up a Micor repeater using a unified chassis for use in Montana on a Mountain site. Site owner does not want a micor power supply. He has station batteries and charger system. Does anyone have a regulator circuit to make the 9.6 vdc and audio 12 vdc necessary for the unified chassis? I am sure I could design a circuit using a 3 leg adjustable regulator and a pass transistor. Just don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't need to Ralph, W7HSG Yahoo! Groups Links -- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.38/2274 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820
sorry no need a EPROM burner to do the 820's John - Original Message - From: Paul Dumdie To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 I have the opertunity to get a Kenwood TKR-820 repeater. I have the programing cable that works on a TKR-850 and all of the TK mobiles. Will this cable work with a TKR-820? What software works to put the repeater in the ham band? Can the repeater do multi PL or DPL? Thanks! Paul R. Dumdie Jr. 73 W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455 443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293 ARC-Radio-8 KCARES KCAPS HERD546 EX WB9QWZ WQGG738-462.725 AAR5CU/T www.riflesandradios.com www.theherd.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
I have seen it in the past that a repeater would come in from Motorola on the wrong freg because the rep ordered it wrong then the service made the corrections and that could be your current freg. John - Original Message - From: Christopher Hodgdon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to them. Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is another story all together. I do have access to a radio house located at our high school football field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One connected to one radio and one connected to the other. One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on it: VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331 The other radio is marked the following: UHF: 451.725 / 456.725 There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what frequencies that have listed. Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as: UHF: 451.750 / 456.750 That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which frequency they were on. That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only one can run at a time, right? Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters. Thanks in advance. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker brian.ra...@... wrote: The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That being said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of frequencies at one time. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher Hodgdonchris.hodg...@... wrote: This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for. This could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it relates to the repeater itself. Can a Motorola MTR2000 setup on UHF be setup to function as a repeater on more than one pair of frequencies? I know looking at the brochure on the website, it says that the NO. of Frequencies are upto 32. Does that mean it can handle two different sets of repeater pairs at the same time in the same radio? These are commercial frequencies I am listed at commercial, but they are for example purposes: Can the following setup work with the MTR2000? Frequency Pair 1: 451.725/456.725 Frequency Pair 2: 451.750/456.750 Can one MTR2000 handle both of these at the same time? Thank in advance. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
how about one repeater but different tone codes? or the repeater is at some other location. John - Original Message - From: Christopher Hodgdon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to locate the other repeater system. The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency is so close to ours. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary n6...@... wrote: The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to them. Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is another story all together. I do have access to a radio house located at our high school football field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One connected to one radio and one connected to the other. One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on it: VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331 The other radio is marked the following: UHF: 451.725 / 456.725 There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what frequencies that have listed. Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as: UHF: 451.750 / 456.750 That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which frequency they were on. That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only one can run at a time, right? Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters. Thanks in advance. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker brian.raker@ wrote: The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency pairs. That being said, it cannot operate more than one channel / programmed pair of frequencies at one time. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Christopher Hodgdonchris.hodgdon@ wrote: This is a question I have been asked and don't have an answer for. This could be for either amateur operation or commercial operation, but it relates to the repeater itself. Can a Motorola MTR2000 setup on UHF be setup to function as a repeater on more than one pair of frequencies? I know looking at the brochure on the website, it says that the NO. of Frequencies are upto 32. Does that mean it can handle two different sets of repeater pairs at the same time in the same radio? These are commercial frequencies I am listed at commercial, but they are for example purposes: Can
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
as one time I had a VHF one that did both 91.x and 167. could only use one at a time but both would bring up the repeater when not in use. John - Original Message - From: william...@aol.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time. bb In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, maire-rad...@verizon.net writes: how about one repeater but different tone codes? or the repeater is at some other location. John - Original Message - From: Christopher Hodgdon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to locate the other repeater system. The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency is so close to ours. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary n6...@... wrote: The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to them. Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is another story all together. I do have access to a radio house located at our high school football field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One connected to one radio and one connected to the other. One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on it: VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331 The other radio is marked the following: UHF: 451.725 / 456.725 There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what frequencies that have listed. Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as: UHF: 451.750 / 456.750 That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which frequency they were on. That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only one can run at a time, right? Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters. Thanks in advance. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker brian.raker@ wrote: The radio can be programmed for multiple
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question
Just looked on the FCC data base and there are 2 school boards in Ca on the 725 freg. 0 on the 750. Need to check you paper work also. - Original Message - From: william...@aol.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question I believe the MTR can only do one tone code at a time. bb In a message dated 8/13/2009 9:19:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, maire-rad...@verizon.net writes: how about one repeater but different tone codes? or the repeater is at some other location. John - Original Message - From: Christopher Hodgdon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question I wish I had a picture of the repeater house. The frequency listed on the MTR2000 is that of the schools maint. department. The other MTR2000, hook to the other antenna, is the Schools PD. I know those for a fact. Now its time to locate the other repeater system. The only odd ball thing I do know is that every once in a while, when a bus is talking to another bus or dispatch, you get a high squeal walk on over them, but its most likely another drive not paying attention and trying to key their radio. But I wonder if it might be the maint. since their frequency is so close to ours. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary n6...@... wrote: The UHF repeater is likely mismarked or the frequency info you obtained for your school's license is inaccurate. The UHF repeater is likely the school's repeater. As mentioned earlier the MTR2000 is a multi-channel radio but can only repeat on the channel it is left on. Recommend you find a dealer or tech experienced with the MTR and who has the software necessary to configure it. Have them download its codeplug. Recommend you do the same with your school radios. A comparison of the data will likely answer a lot. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MTR2000 Question Here's the deal, I work for a local school district, I have been kind of thrust into a temp. communications specialist position while we obtain some new buses and working with the company that will be adding the new radios to them. Over the last few weeks, we have been trying to determine the location of our repeater. The place were it is listed on the FCC license paperwork does not exist. I know, I am pushing them to get it updated. But that is another story all together. I do have access to a radio house located at our high school football field and it has two MTR2000 in it, plus two different antennas. One connected to one radio and one connected to the other. One radio is marked with the description of KISD PD, which is our police department for the district and has the following frequency pair listed on it: VHF: RX 173.325 DPL 331 and TX 158.385 DPL 331 The other radio is marked the following: UHF: 451.725 / 456.725 There is no documentation with this equipment, the person incharge of them originally left the district some years ago and no one knows anything about them, expect where they are located, as far as these two boxes go and what frequencies that have listed. Which brings me back to our department, we can find out repeater located anywhere physcially. Our repeater pair is listed as: UHF: 451.750 / 456.750 That is according to FCC, repeater listing and other information I have been able to obtain and by listening to it on a UHF amateur radio to see which frequency they were on. That being said, it is possible that the MTR2000 that is marked with the one UHF frequency, might actually have both pairs programmed into it, but only one can run at a time, right? Is there a way to find out if there is more than one frequency is programmed into the unit and if so, how might we go about that? Another reason I am asking is that we might be upgrading our system in the very near future and I might be able to get my hands on these repeaters. Thanks in advance. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brian Raker brian.raker@ wrote: The radio can be programmed for multiple frequency
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS HT recommendation?
you can do that with a Kenwood 3180 or NX-300 we sell them all that time for that use. John - Original Message - From: George Henry To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:52 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS HT recommendation? Looking for a recommendation for an HT for GMRS use which is either fully keypad programmable, or at least capable of changing tones from the keypad. A tone scan feature would be nice, but not a necessity... George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor repeater
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: Motorola Micor repeater looking to get rid of some Micor repeaters 450 to 470 band they are in the Tampa Bay area of Florida. Also some remote receivers 450 to 470. thanks John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] K3BEQ Petitions the FCC to Outlaw Closed Repeaters
This guy is a bunch of hot air. I do have a open 2 meter repeater, NO one has ever offered to pay anything in up keep. So far the repeater, amp controller, duplixer, hardline and antenna all out of pocket money and yes a lot of it. Electrical, tower rental and insurance. If the repeater ever gets hit by lighting it would be a long time before it get replaces. And the best part the free users love to call me and complain about it from time to time. The clock is off by a 30 sec.. or the time out is to short for me (4 mins) and things like that. Can we use the repeater for the 4th of July run we do the radios for it, (Yes) but they don't. Just so much fun and it is all free for all hams to use. Glad I don't have the same Sh?? with may FB-8 repeaters, and I get to collect money and it is the fee I come up with. John - Original Message - From: Mark Thompson To: repea...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; repeat...@yahoogroups.com Cc: coordina...@yahoogroups.com ; n...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] K3BEQ Petitions the FCC to Outlaw Closed Repeaters RAIN Report This Week: K3BEQ Petitions the FCC to Outlaw Closed Repeaters. (14 minutes) http://www.therainreport.com/rainreport_archive/rainreport-7-24-2009.mp3
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters
yes I know what you mean but the good Doctor on the voice message need to have an open mind and not expect everyone to give it all away. If he wants an open repeater maybe he need to get one and pay for it. Let everyone use it any time and see how it goes. The days when you built a repeater from parts is almost over now with all the digital systems out there. John - Original Message - From: ccour79...@aol.com To: maire-rad...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: RE: Closed Repeaters Hi: Wow, your note was familiar. Me and another guy have maintained 3 open repeaters in my area, privately owned by choice to avoid the politics. Most local users are supportive but there is one bad apple who constantly complains about them, the clock is off, the audio is off, it builds up the audio, it has PL, it doesnt have PL, the ID sounds low, the ID sounds different, it doesnt need the /R in the ID, he cant hit it in his basement on his handheld 5kc off frequency on low power with a dead battery and the radio turned off and of course it's not as good as what he had in Jersey!!! About the time I throw my hands up, someone comes along and says something nice and keeps me going for another week. 73 Chris KC4CMR -- A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale/Trade: EF Johnson 242-3450 LPI repeater (UHF)
is this the black repeater with a display on one of the cards? if so is it 25Kh or 12.5Kz. ? - Original Message - From: surf_boy82 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale/Trade: EF Johnson 242-3450 LPI repeater (UHF) Group: I have for sale 1 EFJohnson 242-3450-030 UHF LPI repeater, currently on 464MHz TX, 469MHz RX with tone PL. It is in good condition and working properly. All modules present (TX, RX, PA, Control, Power Supply and Duplexer). I don't work with Johnson equipment and it is surplus to my needs. I would like to sell it outright (PLEASE MAKE OFFER), or MORE PREFERABLY trade it for any of the following: Doug Hall RBI-1 Remote Base Interface ACC RC-850, RC-85 or RC-96 repeater controllers ACC FC-900 remote base interfaces ICOM 900/901 band modules (10m, 6m, 2m, 220, 440 or 1200) Please e-mail me off-list if interested at surf_bo...@yahoo.com. Thanks, Chris
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense?
waterproof connections? - Original Message - From: kfd29 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense? Just replaced a damaged mast for our VHF repeater. Went with a 4-bay dipole as a replacement, along with switching out the old coax with 1/2 hardline. Everything else stayed the same, VXR-7000 and internal duplexer. All worked well after a final check, until night came along, when it seems to possible to a casulty of desense? In base mode, tx and rx are wonderful, but when switched to repeater mode as soon as it rx's and attempts to transmit, it cut's itself out. About a one second in, out, back in, out, etc. Not sure what happened but around mid-day it started working fine again, then last night started acting up again. Any thoughts? suggestions? Did recheck all connections from antenna down and everything is tight.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense?
what does the watt meter show? normal? reflected? - Original Message - From: Ken Franks To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense? I was wondering the same... are you thinking a bad duplexers? or maybe re-tuning? K5IN k...@comcast.net 7/10/2009 10:13 AM Sounds like a temperature related issue. You might recheck the duplexers and even knock on their housing while testing. I am no expert but am only throwing out suggestions. Brian - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense? waterproof connections? - Original Message - From: kfd29 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Desense? Just replaced a damaged mast for our VHF repeater. Went with a 4-bay dipole as a replacement, along with switching out the old coax with 1/2 hardline. Everything else stayed the same, VXR-7000 and internal duplexer. All worked well after a final check, until night came along, when it seems to possible to a casulty of desense? In base mode, tx and rx are wonderful, but when switched to repeater mode as soon as it rx's and attempts to transmit, it cut's itself out. About a one second in, out, back in, out, etc. Not sure what happened but around mid-day it started working fine again, then last night started acting up again. Any thoughts? suggestions? Did recheck all connections from antenna down and everything is tight.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional
well I have a Kenwood TKR-751 and amp at 80 watts going into a DB-224 at 180 feet. no preamp, RC-210 controller and get about 20 miles from the tower. there is something wrong with the repeater. It should get more coverage than you say. Maybe a preamp on the receive will help. What is the reflected on the unit? What kind of duplixer do you have? John - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Scott Yeager wrote: Wow, if this is attempting to be nice I can't even imagine what your idea of rude is. Which part of my message was rude? Did you fall into the common mistake that humans reading e-mails that are long think there's more emotional content to them than there is? It's a well-documented phenomenon, and I type over 80 WPM. Read it again. Also, a bunch of people are whining that I called YOUR gear junk, which I did NOT... they need to learn to read English, I guess. I said clearly that I was talking about the TYPICAL cross-band repeater setup, not yours. You have the opportunity to build a good one that'll never bother the main repeater operator, and I was sharing how frustrating and annoying a BADLY done one is. It only takes one bad apple for the repeater operator to say, Screw it. This took up too much time hunting this idiot down, we're going to ban these things from our repeater. Where to start? Well since I'm a DUE paying member of the club and the repeater belongs to THE CLUB, I'm part owner of it. This has also been discussed with the club and received no objection from a majority of the members. No comment here. Good luck getting a judge to give you your share of the money if they ever turn if off and sell it. Ownership doesn't work that way under the law, but it doesn't matter for this discussion. It's a business/legal question, unrelated to the need you have to access the repeater. At least three other members in the club use dual band mobiles in their homes and make use of a dual band portable HT doing the EXACT SAME THING I'm attempting. Never once has this caused a problem. The repeater uses coded squelch on the input, transmits the tone 24/7 on the output and I planned on using TSQ on my 2m radio, along with DSQ on my 440 radio. Considering that my 2m radio would NEVER transmit unless I was keying it using my 250mw HT then theres no need for IT to ID. Oh and wouldn't it be so terrible to build a 555 timer circuit to ID on the 440mhz unit every 10 minutes it was active with my call sign and maybe a message it was a crossband link? Good, they're doing it right. You have to realize my comments were from over a decade of seeing people do it wrong and frankly, being tired of it. People pop up on this list all the time asking vague I want to link to someone else's repeater questions without even so much as talking to the local repeater operator first. That's backwards. As far as ID's go... plenty of people getting away with not doing it for cross-band links, etc. I only asked you HOW your transmitter would be ID'd, since people had already send you links to a cable system that links GM300's and makes them into a cross-band repeater that doesn't include a legal ID'er. Part 97 clearly states that every transmitter must be ID'd. How you do it, is up to you. The fact that you know what a 555 timer is, puts you far up the curve from the average new ham. It's not required knowledge on the test, and the hobby is designed to bring in folks who know virtually nothing about radio -- which is good for the hobby long-term, if they continue learning -- so you're ahead of the game. How would I have known that from your original posting? I wouldn't. Therefore the answer was tailored to the lowest common denominator. Oh and I'm so terribly sorry to inconvinence YOU with the fact that I'm a highly active member of a radio club whos repeater is nearly 10 miles away from my house as the crow flies and I'd like the convinence of using my low powered HT to, I don't know, TALK TO PEOPLE!? My front porch is at 1025 feet, the base of the water tower is at 1014 feet, stands 274 feet high and our antenna is a high gain repeater specific antenna on a mast 23 feet from the TOP of the tower. Using a VX7R and Diamond HRH77CA on full five watts I can NOT key the repeater. A repeater 10 miles away that can't hear a 5W HT has a receiver sensitivity or noise problem. Perhaps your time/effort would be better spent helping the repeater club fix that? Being a highly active repeater user means little. Being a highly active repeater builder/worker, holds more challenge and
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional
also this range on the repeater is with a HT at 5 watts. - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional well I have a Kenwood TKR-751 and amp at 80 watts going into a DB-224 at 180 feet. no preamp, RC-210 controller and get about 20 miles from the tower. there is something wrong with the repeater. It should get more coverage than you say. Maybe a preamp on the receive will help. What is the reflected on the unit? What kind of duplixer do you have? John - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Scott Yeager wrote: Wow, if this is attempting to be nice I can't even imagine what your idea of rude is. Which part of my message was rude? Did you fall into the common mistake that humans reading e-mails that are long think there's more emotional content to them than there is? It's a well-documented phenomenon, and I type over 80 WPM. Read it again. Also, a bunch of people are whining that I called YOUR gear junk, which I did NOT... they need to learn to read English, I guess. I said clearly that I was talking about the TYPICAL cross-band repeater setup, not yours. You have the opportunity to build a good one that'll never bother the main repeater operator, and I was sharing how frustrating and annoying a BADLY done one is. It only takes one bad apple for the repeater operator to say, Screw it. This took up too much time hunting this idiot down, we're going to ban these things from our repeater. Where to start? Well since I'm a DUE paying member of the club and the repeater belongs to THE CLUB, I'm part owner of it. This has also been discussed with the club and received no objection from a majority of the members. No comment here. Good luck getting a judge to give you your share of the money if they ever turn if off and sell it. Ownership doesn't work that way under the law, but it doesn't matter for this discussion. It's a business/legal question, unrelated to the need you have to access the repeater. At least three other members in the club use dual band mobiles in their homes and make use of a dual band portable HT doing the EXACT SAME THING I'm attempting. Never once has this caused a problem. The repeater uses coded squelch on the input, transmits the tone 24/7 on the output and I planned on using TSQ on my 2m radio, along with DSQ on my 440 radio. Considering that my 2m radio would NEVER transmit unless I was keying it using my 250mw HT then theres no need for IT to ID. Oh and wouldn't it be so terrible to build a 555 timer circuit to ID on the 440mhz unit every 10 minutes it was active with my call sign and maybe a message it was a crossband link? Good, they're doing it right. You have to realize my comments were from over a decade of seeing people do it wrong and frankly, being tired of it. People pop up on this list all the time asking vague I want to link to someone else's repeater questions without even so much as talking to the local repeater operator first. That's backwards. As far as ID's go... plenty of people getting away with not doing it for cross-band links, etc. I only asked you HOW your transmitter would be ID'd, since people had already send you links to a cable system that links GM300's and makes them into a cross-band repeater that doesn't include a legal ID'er. Part 97 clearly states that every transmitter must be ID'd. How you do it, is up to you. The fact that you know what a 555 timer is, puts you far up the curve from the average new ham. It's not required knowledge on the test, and the hobby is designed to bring in folks who know virtually nothing about radio -- which is good for the hobby long-term, if they continue learning -- so you're ahead of the game. How would I have known that from your original posting? I wouldn't. Therefore the answer was tailored to the lowest common denominator. Oh and I'm so terribly sorry to inconvinence YOU with the fact that I'm a highly active member of a radio club whos repeater is nearly 10 miles away from my house as the crow flies and I'd like the convinence of using my low powered HT to, I don't know, TALK TO PEOPLE!? My front porch is at 1025 feet, the base of the water tower is at 1014 feet, stands 274 feet high and our antenna is a high gain repeater specific antenna on a mast 23 feet from
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional
have build one same radio's and used 2 Zetron 37. - Original Message - From: turboelesjuan To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Crossband Ham repeater Bi-Directional A little background on what I'm trying to accomplish here; I'm a member of a Ham radio club but do not live in the city the club's repeater resides in. Due to the distance away I'm unable to access the repeater with a handheld radio without the use of a large external antenna and thats what I'd like to change. Installed in my vehicle is a Yaesu FT-8800 mobile that has ability to perform crossband repeat option. Example: A: 145.170MHz (-600khz offset) B: 438.500MHz simplex. I have a UHF Radio that I can set to 438.500MHz simplex to walk around my house and both TALK and RECEIVE traffic to and from the repeater. Basically the radio in my car has the ability to transmit and receive on BOTH frequencies. Heres my question: Is there a controller I can build which has the ability to control TWO Motorola GM300 mobiles w/16pin connectors the same way? Use each radio as a transceiver for bi-directional traffic? I already have both of the GM300 radios and they didn't cost 400$, which my 8800 Did. I want something perm. installed at my house so I can use a small UHF handheld on low power anywhere around my area to chat. Is this possible? Thanks!! -Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions...
keep the TPL get a Kenwood TKR-750 or 751 and a 210 controller. mine has been on the air for 2 years and not a bit of trouble. Using a TKR-751 on low power 4 watts out factory tuned at Kenwood systems in GA. John - Original Message - From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions... Our local RACES group has a Kenwood TKR-720 driving a TPL PA that they were ill-advised to purchase some years ago. It is maintained by the county radio shop for various reasons and has been a nightmare. Once again the final in the Kenwood has done a meltdown. That said, the local EMA manager, also a new ham, wishes to replace it if he can squeeze the funds out somewhere. My recommendation, obviously the most expensive, was a Master III and new Arcom controller simply because the county already maintains three VHF M3's and a 5-site, 8-channel trunked system using 800 M3's. Parts and support are good. I would really appreciate input, both regarding setting up a Master III, or other viable repeater. We need, minimally, 100% duty-cycle at approximately 100 watts, good parts and support available, and reliability. Is there a decent source for M3's with P25 becoming more desirable, etc.. I don't want a, mine is better than yours, war so off-reflector replies are also welcome. TIA... Len Revelle N9IJ n...@comcast.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions...
or is you want a high end repeater get a Kenwood TKR-740 max output 5 watts but like the Mircor repeaters great front end and has the DB25 for hook up to a 210 controller. - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions... keep the TPL get a Kenwood TKR-750 or 751 and a 210 controller. mine has been on the air for 2 years and not a bit of trouble. Using a TKR-751 on low power 4 watts out factory tuned at Kenwood systems in GA. John - Original Message - From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions... Our local RACES group has a Kenwood TKR-720 driving a TPL PA that they were ill-advised to purchase some years ago. It is maintained by the county radio shop for various reasons and has been a nightmare. Once again the final in the Kenwood has done a meltdown. That said, the local EMA manager, also a new ham, wishes to replace it if he can squeeze the funds out somewhere. My recommendation, obviously the most expensive, was a Master III and new Arcom controller simply because the county already maintains three VHF M3's and a 5-site, 8-channel trunked system using 800 M3's. Parts and support are good. I would really appreciate input, both regarding setting up a Master III, or other viable repeater. We need, minimally, 100% duty-cycle at approximately 100 watts, good parts and support available, and reliability. Is there a decent source for M3's with P25 becoming more desirable, etc.. I don't want a, mine is better than yours, war so off-reflector replies are also welcome. TIA... Len Revelle N9IJ n...@comcast.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LOOKING FOR Motorola 450 to 470 75 watt Micor Repeater Amp TLE1713A
where are you at? - Original Message - From: GUIDO To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LOOKING FOR Motorola 450 to 470 75 watt Micor Repeater Amp TLE1713A Hi all, I am looking for an amp for a micor I am putting together for a GMRS rptr for my sons. The 75 wat turned down seems to be a good way to go. Finding one is the hard part. If you have one and care to part with it let me know. Guido
Re: [Repeater-Builder] First UHF MSF5000 Attempt
well if it was 85 watts with 122.5 watts it would be lower at 110 watts and any be the 71 watts do the math should be about the same values. John - Original Message - From: n2acf To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] First UHF MSF5000 Attempt Hello All, Attempted to tune up the TX side of a C74CXB today. The odds weren't really in my favor as I've never worked on a UHF MSF nor have I ever used a tracking generator. I brought the station to a friends shop and I used an IFR1200S for the tuning. I checked the station before I began and on 453.900 there was 82.5 watts at the antenna port and 122.5 coming out of the PA. So, I reprogrammed the station, adjusted the VCO, and then began to re-tune the 3 pole and 4 pole filter. I also changed the output power of the PA to 110 watts because I believe that is what the station is rated for. The new TX frequency is 441.950. When I was done with both filters, I checked the power at the antenna port and it's only 71 watts. I believe it's supposed to be 85. The PA looks very clean on the spectrum analyzer and the carrier is right on frequency. Again, I'm not the best at reading the scope while using the tracking generator but I did it the best I could for the first time. Is my output power OK at 71 watts or is something wrong? Thanks in advanced! Adam N2ACF
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ham installation quality/non-quality
knew a radio shop in Sarasota Fl that did that kind of work on a repeater system on an 640 foot tower 800Mhz. good job. - Original Message - From: Barry To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ham installation quality/non-quality Interesting read , In this part of the world the regulation regarding cable installs is very stringent and as one licensed to do such things is a constant source of amusement for me , just because you have an amateur license does not mean you have to install like one :) I know of commercial installers getting fined these days who complain we have been doing it this way for years To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: wb2...@roadrunner.com Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:16:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ham installation quality/non-quality I know a radio shop that does installs like that. It's been in business for over 30 years. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ham installation quality/non-quality Nightmare f-ing Hams! story from this weekend: I went to a site this weekend, and the new Amateur repeater in the new building the hams are moving into had 200' of 1/2 Andrews hardline on it that I don't even know how it was operating... it looked like someone had taken a ballpeen hammer to it at 5' lengths all the way across the ice bridge and up the tower. The hardline run was done INSIDE a tower leg instead of properly up the outside cable tray/unistrut with no hangers, and no grounding kits on the run of 1/2 anywhere. SNIP __ Looking to move somewhere new this winter? Let ninemsn property help http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline_t=774152450_r=Domain_tagline_m=EXT
[Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater UHF
Got a Micro low power UHF repeater that was just removed from a tower site for new unit. it has a 10 watt output at this time it is on 463.xxx have other elements if other wanted. will need a controller as it had a Zetron 48 but it will be removed. $50.00 add shipping and pack items.
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK790/890 repeater set up.
Got a Kenwood TK790/890 with remote display head for sale. 45 watt radio's UHF and VHF set up to receive UHF and output VHF and receive VHF and output UHF. VHF set up on 146.XXX and 151.XXX UHF at this time 450 to 470 band but will do 445. with no problem just out of band. about 2 years install in my truck. thanks John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola PL reeds.
got 4 of the TLN6709B and 2 of the KLN6210A all 1Z and many more of others. John ' '' - Original Message - From: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola PL reeds. i have 2 sponders $5 ea Plus coupla bux post mdm Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio If its in stock...we've got it! P O Box 31353 Chicago, IL 60631-0353 773.631.5130 fax 773.775.8096 web http://www.mdmradio.com email - mdmra...@yahoo.com DIRECT ALL EMAIL --- On Tue, 4/14/09, ke8hr1 ke8...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ke8hr1 ke8...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola PL reeds. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:50 PM Still looking for a source of 100 Hz,1Z PL reeds receive, Micor vintage. I need 6. Are they available new? Has anyone modified or moved a reed of a different frequency. How is it done? I have lots to experiment on. Now that everyone has had a good laugh, thoughts, comments, helpful suggestions.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
sorry base units repeaters. - Original Message - From: larryjspamme...@teleport.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage Are these MICORs mobile radios or Base Stations? I'd like to find a 25 Watt (or 45 Watt) MICOR mobile. I really need only the drawer unit portion, to actually use as a mobile radio. I always see lots of them at Dayton, but don't yet know for certain if I'll be going this year. -Original Message- From: Maire-Radios Sent: Apr 16, 2009 11:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage by the way any one in the Tampa bay area of Florida want any 460 to 470 Micors? also Gatlinburg TN Area? John - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage sorry yes we use the TKR-840 I was thinking of the TKR-830'sIt has been one of those days. We have been replacing our Micor repeaters with the TKR-840 so I should have know better. John - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage You may have a different radio in mind, because the Kenwood TKR-740 and -840 repeaters definitely do have built-in tone, and are full duplex. Very high quality units. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage Also the 840 does not do tone and may only be the TX and RX never got one have always stay away. and yes max 5 watts also - Original Message - From: Ken Arck mailto:ah...@ah6le.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage At 02:55 PM 4/16/2009, Adam Feuer wrote: Ken, How about the TKR-840? Any idea if that one will go down via the software and tune without issues as well? ---So will the 850 - the standard KPG-91D software will program it and it tunes down to the ham band very easily. I have personally had them tuned down to 436 with no spec' degredation You seem to be getting some incorrect info. Besides, the 840 is a low output radio (5 watts) meant to drive an external amplifier. Not to mention, the 840 is GROSSLY more expensive than the 850. As for the 851, there is absolutely no difference between it and the 850, save for one thing - the 850 is capable of only 25 watts maximum whereas the 850 is capable of 40. Although admittedly the 850 is spec'd at 25 watts only for continuous duty. I can only warn you that there seems to be a LOT of misinformation disseminated about the TKR repeaters for some reason. For example, you do NOT need to spend $100+ on a programming cable. A standard, run-of-the-mill serial cable is all that is needed (along with the KPG-91D software) to program a TKR. Hope this helps * Ken
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
Look at the TKR-751 and TKR-851 US available Have a 751 on 146.xxx factory order John - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage At 01:40 PM 4/16/2009, ptt_pupil wrote: Can anyone tell me how you can convert a TKR-750/850 U.S. model to be used for amateur radio frequency? I see that people have. There is a European model that includes amatuer bands, but can't get it here in the U.S. Thanks! ---No conversion necessary. They tune down no problems at all. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
I am told they will someplace I have the info to do the software the repeater will do it. great repeater as I have 10 in service at this time. John - Original Message - From: Adam Feuer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage Ken, How about the TKR-840? Any idea if that one will go down via the software and tune without issues as well? Adam N2ACF Ken Arck wrote: At 01:40 PM 4/16/2009, ptt_pupil wrote: Can anyone tell me how you can convert a TKR-750/850 U.S. model to be used for amateur radio frequency? I see that people have. There is a European model that includes amatuer bands, but can't get it here in the U.S. Thanks! ---No conversion necessary. They tune down no problems at all. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
Also the 840 does not do tone and may only be the TX and RX never got one have always stay away. and yes max 5 watts also - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage At 02:55 PM 4/16/2009, Adam Feuer wrote: Ken, How about the TKR-840? Any idea if that one will go down via the software and tune without issues as well? ---So will the 850 - the standard KPG-91D software will program it and it tunes down to the ham band very easily. I have personally had them tuned down to 436 with no spec' degredation You seem to be getting some incorrect info. Besides, the 840 is a low output radio (5 watts) meant to drive an external amplifier. Not to mention, the 840 is GROSSLY more expensive than the 850. As for the 851, there is absolutely no difference between it and the 850, save for one thing - the 850 is capable of only 25 watts maximum whereas the 850 is capable of 40. Although admittedly the 850 is spec'd at 25 watts only for continuous duty. I can only warn you that there seems to be a LOT of misinformation disseminated about the TKR repeaters for some reason. For example, you do NOT need to spend $100+ on a programming cable. A standard, run-of-the-mill serial cable is all that is needed (along with the KPG-91D software) to program a TKR. Hope this helps a.. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
I know got a 751 set up for 146. by Kenwood systems and puts out 5 watts. goes into a TPL amp 2 in 120 out set for about 100 watts and into a high end TX RX dupplixer. 7/8 hard line up the tower to 200' and a DB 224 . John - Original Message - From: Mike Mullarkey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage John, The 751 and 851 are only 25watt repeaters. The 750 and 850 work just fine as Ken said. Mike Colorado Telecom, L.L.C Mike Mullarkey 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage Look at the TKR-751 and TKR-851 US available Have a 751 on 146.xxx factory order John - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage At 01:40 PM 4/16/2009, ptt_pupil wrote: Can anyone tell me how you can convert a TKR-750/850 U.S. model to be used for amateur radio frequency? I see that people have. There is a European model that includes amatuer bands, but can't get it here in the U.S. Thanks! ---No conversion necessary. They tune down no problems at all. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
sorry yes we use the TKR-840 I was thinking of the TKR-830'sIt has been one of those days. We have been replacing our Micor repeaters with the TKR-840 so I should have know better. John - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage You may have a different radio in mind, because the Kenwood TKR-740 and -840 repeaters definitely do have built-in tone, and are full duplex. Very high quality units. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage Also the 840 does not do tone and may only be the TX and RX never got one have always stay away. and yes max 5 watts also - Original Message - From: Ken Arck mailto:ah...@ah6le.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage At 02:55 PM 4/16/2009, Adam Feuer wrote: Ken, How about the TKR-840? Any idea if that one will go down via the software and tune without issues as well? ---So will the 850 - the standard KPG-91D software will program it and it tunes down to the ham band very easily. I have personally had them tuned down to 436 with no spec' degredation You seem to be getting some incorrect info. Besides, the 840 is a low output radio (5 watts) meant to drive an external amplifier. Not to mention, the 840 is GROSSLY more expensive than the 850. As for the 851, there is absolutely no difference between it and the 850, save for one thing - the 850 is capable of only 25 watts maximum whereas the 850 is capable of 40. Although admittedly the 850 is spec'd at 25 watts only for continuous duty. I can only warn you that there seems to be a LOT of misinformation disseminated about the TKR repeaters for some reason. For example, you do NOT need to spend $100+ on a programming cable. A standard, run-of-the-mill serial cable is all that is needed (along with the KPG-91D software) to program a TKR. Hope this helps * Ken
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage
by the way any one in the Tampa bay area of Florida want any 460 to 470 Micors? also Gatlinburg TN Area? John - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage sorry yes we use the TKR-840 I was thinking of the TKR-830'sIt has been one of those days. We have been replacing our Micor repeaters with the TKR-840 so I should have know better. John - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage You may have a different radio in mind, because the Kenwood TKR-740 and -840 repeaters definitely do have built-in tone, and are full duplex. Very high quality units. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage Also the 840 does not do tone and may only be the TX and RX never got one have always stay away. and yes max 5 watts also - Original Message - From: Ken Arck mailto:ah...@ah6le.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a TKR-750/850 for Amateur Usage At 02:55 PM 4/16/2009, Adam Feuer wrote: Ken, How about the TKR-840? Any idea if that one will go down via the software and tune without issues as well? ---So will the 850 - the standard KPG-91D software will program it and it tunes down to the ham band very easily. I have personally had them tuned down to 436 with no spec' degredation You seem to be getting some incorrect info. Besides, the 840 is a low output radio (5 watts) meant to drive an external amplifier. Not to mention, the 840 is GROSSLY more expensive than the 850. As for the 851, there is absolutely no difference between it and the 850, save for one thing - the 850 is capable of only 25 watts maximum whereas the 850 is capable of 40. Although admittedly the 850 is spec'd at 25 watts only for continuous duty. I can only warn you that there seems to be a LOT of misinformation disseminated about the TKR repeaters for some reason. For example, you do NOT need to spend $100+ on a programming cable. A standard, run-of-the-mill serial cable is all that is needed (along with the KPG-91D software) to program a TKR. Hope this helps * Ken
Re: [Repeater-Builder]Pinnacle Towers
and in what area is this? also Pinnacle has been bought out by Crown Castle. like me know the area I may have a number. - Original Message - From: radio5...@aol.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder]Pinnacle Towers Anybody have a good contact at Pinnacle? I am looking for someone to deal with that is Public Safety friendly (insert laughter here). A local business may be discontinuing the use of their system, I would like to get the spot- if I can afford it. (insert more laughter here). Thanks Will -- Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF repeater with Duplexers and 8bay dipole vertical antenna
where is it at? can you reprogram the 2000? thanks John - Original Message - From: alphasxsignal To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF repeater with Duplexers and 8bay dipole vertical antenna MSR-2000 is 100watt UHF Comes with duplexers. Decibel Products 8Bay dipole with mast also have 8 more dipoles without mast will include you could sell or use for back up. All for new low price$700 Its on 461.075,466.075 Taking offers will not break up. Some want the antennas but they have to go with the repeater. It comes with the 3 manuals that came with it. Manuals Mint condition. Pictures can be seen on www.hamradioclassifieds.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF repeater with Duplexers and 8bay dipole vertical antenna
thanks let me think on it I'm in Clearwater what is the power output? - Original Message - From: KZ4USA To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF repeater with Duplexers and 8bay dipole vertical antenna You would need new crystals. Its here in Bradenton, Fla on the central west coast of florida. Jack KZ4USA Bradenton, Florida - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF repeater with Duplexers and 8bay dipole vertical antenna where is it at? can you reprogram the 2000? thanks John - Original Message - From: alphasxsignal To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF repeater with Duplexers and 8bay dipole vertical antenna MSR-2000 is 100watt UHF Comes with duplexers. Decibel Products 8Bay dipole with mast also have 8 more dipoles without mast will include you could sell or use for back up. All for new low price$700 Its on 461.075,466.075 Taking offers will not break up. Some want the antennas but they have to go with the repeater. It comes with the 3 manuals that came with it. Manuals Mint condition. Pictures can be seen on www.hamradioclassifieds.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
At one time we were a Maxon dealer and the software we got from Maxon would not work into the GE radio's but the GE radio's were made for them by Maxon. There was talk of a software that could be mod to work but never seen it. John - Original Message - From: Mark To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up. - Original Message - From: Mark To: g...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
never had any Maxon program cables that used a parallel port. - Original Message - From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up OK, thanks - the GE software we now have requires the parallel port, so it appears that we either need to rewire the plug (and/or use a gender bender) or get the GE cable. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Maire-Radios also the plug you show for the computer goes to the serial port. you may need to get a 25 pin to 9 pin but it is NOT a parallel hook up.
[Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL
any one got any thoughts on how to tie 2 repeaters together on a DLS line. Both repeaters at this time are 12.5 set up in the business band. They will be Kenwood TKR-840 units. any help or links to info would be great. thanks john
Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL
yes both the audio and control. at this time there is no computer at the towers sites. I told there is equipment out there that will do this without the need for a computer. - Original Message - From: Barry To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL your intending to run the audio and or control via adsl ? some sort of computer running nix is simple as there are packages out there to do the work , have you looked on http://www.zapatatelephony.org/app_rpt.html and http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Repeater_Control/ a veru used 386 or better pc or an industrial dedicated mini server would suffice with minimal power requirements -- To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: maire-rad...@verizon.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:21:42 -0400 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL any one got any thoughts on how to tie 2 repeaters together on a DLS line. Both repeaters at this time are 12.5 set up in the business band. They will be Kenwood TKR-840 units. any help or links to info would be great. thanks john -- Find car news, reviews and more Looking to change your car this year?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL
more info. thanks John - Original Message - From: Barry To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL -- To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: maire-rad...@verizon.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:24:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL yes both the audio and control. at this time there is no computer at the towers sites. I told there is equipment out there that will do this without the need for a computer. Yes there is , but how good is your funding ? - Original Message - From: Barry To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL your intending to run the audio and or control via adsl ? some sort of computer running nix is simple as there are packages out there to do the work , have you looked on http://www.zapatatelephony.org/app_rpt.html and http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Repeater_Control/ a veru used 386 or better pc or an industrial dedicated mini server would suffice with minimal power requirements To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: maire-rad...@verizon.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:21:42 -0400 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater to DSL any one got any thoughts on how to tie 2 repeaters together on a DLS line. Both repeaters at this time are 12.5 set up in the business band. They will be Kenwood TKR-840 units. any help or links to info would be great. thanks john Find car news, reviews and more Looking to change your car this year? -- Download the new Windows Live Messenger Find out what’s new with your friends
[Repeater-Builder] ICOM FR- 4000 REPEATER SALE
Will have a Like new Icom FR-4000 for sale the end of May 2009. It at this time is at my tower in TN just set up to ID every 15 mins. (no other use) Was installed in December 2008 new repeater. Will replace with Icom FR-6000. Asking price $1100.00 will program if needed and just add shipping cost. Will ship only in the US 48 states. thanks John
[Repeater-Builder] FRS
does any have a list of the service the same as FRS freg in Canada? thanks
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP
at the time Maxon sold the 4450 repeater we got one and put it in service. 200 ft tower with TX and rx combiner system AC cooled area well it lasted there about 1 week before it was returned to Maxon. it has very light use but there was problems it has a Zetron 37 tone panel and a nice case the other rx in the room gave it many problems. also it was factory set to 1/2 power of the radio normal output. - Original Message - From: Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP Contact me direct and I will see if I can help WB5OXQ. Find me in QRZ if you need my email address I should have the software and cable needed to program the 4140-4450 radios. At one time Maxon offered a repeater using 2 of these radios. I will see tomorrow when I am at my shop if the software allows ham frequencies to be programmed. I think so but I am not absolutely sure. - Original Message - From: w7...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP Hello Group, I am searching for a manual, or pdf for a Maxon SMP-4000 programmer. I am attempting to use two Maxon 4150 radios as a emergency rpt. . While I am here, has anyone moded this model of radio for rpt. use? But, until I can program radios for tune up and testingI am stuck! Oh, I had better ask. Can these radios be programmed into Ham frequencies in the EEPROM. I realize that I may have to adjust within the radio also, if I can get 2 meter frequencies programmed in the EEPROM. Any info on programmer and radio would be appreciated! Thanks! Tim Hardy W7TRH / AFA0TP Vashon Is. Wa. 206.850.9735
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP
the other info when we took the unit a part to see the inside there was a label from a radio shop in the same area of the Maxon sales office that made them for them. - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP at the time Maxon sold the 4450 repeater we got one and put it in service. 200 ft tower with TX and rx combiner system AC cooled area well it lasted there about 1 week before it was returned to Maxon. it has very light use but there was problems it has a Zetron 37 tone panel and a nice case the other rx in the room gave it many problems. also it was factory set to 1/2 power of the radio normal output. - Original Message - From: Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP Contact me direct and I will see if I can help WB5OXQ. Find me in QRZ if you need my email address I should have the software and cable needed to program the 4140-4450 radios. At one time Maxon offered a repeater using 2 of these radios. I will see tomorrow when I am at my shop if the software allows ham frequencies to be programmed. I think so but I am not absolutely sure. - Original Message - From: w7...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP Hello Group, I am searching for a manual, or pdf for a Maxon SMP-4000 programmer. I am attempting to use two Maxon 4150 radios as a emergency rpt. . While I am here, has anyone moded this model of radio for rpt. use? But, until I can program radios for tune up and testingI am stuck! Oh, I had better ask. Can these radios be programmed into Ham frequencies in the EEPROM. I realize that I may have to adjust within the radio also, if I can get 2 meter frequencies programmed in the EEPROM. Any info on programmer and radio would be appreciated! Thanks! Tim Hardy W7TRH / AFA0TP Vashon Is. Wa. 206.850.9735
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Tampa bay area of Florida complete in cabinet 9 one in parts in cabinet 1 was working low power have a tone panel one out of cabinet but working with Zetron 48 may have a cabinet for it. all UHF 460 to 470 most 75 watt pa some low power one GMRS 40 watts - Original Message - From: Captainlance To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Where are they?,complete or parts?, cabinets? how many and how much? Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale very low cost some working some for parts. John - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Ralph S. Turk wrote: Kevin Unified Chassis meaning TX on top Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom. Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again. A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly what it says it is. Each of the units (the TX, control shelf, and RX) are separate and connected together electrically with a 50 conductor ribbon cable. The Unified Chassis has a Back-Plane Board that is tall enough to 'reach' the TX and RX compartments, and no ribbon cable exists. The Unified Chassis is easily identified as having sloping covers on the TX and RX. Here's a picture of a Unified Chassis: http://www.kuggie.com/ahra/pix/DSC00027.jpg Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1956 - Release Date: 02/16/09 18:31:00
[Repeater-Builder] Fw: freg
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: freg we are going to put a repeater on a site near a new DTV site. could anyone here give me the freg the DTV channels use? thanks John
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion
I would go with a true repeater as the mobiles are not type accepted for the use and there duty cycle in not designed for a repeater use. John - Original Message - From: redneckfirefighter800 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood conversion Before I get in over my head with this project, I want to see if its A. practical B. feasable C. cost effective. I have on hand a tk-880 and a tk-805d power supply and antennas and required cable and software to program both. Is this possible or should I buy a ericson readymade repeater system? Thanks James Radio Officer REACT 6101
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR 5000
need the new ver. of the cable the old one does not work with it. - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VXR 5000 Does anyone know where I can find a VPl-1 programming cable? Seen some on Ebay but they are listed as not working with the VXR-7000, are the pinouts differant from the mobile ham radios to the repeater the VPL-1 is supposed to work with? Purchased a UHF repeater to run on Echolink, planning on the Tigertronics Signalink USB interface. Has anyone used the Signalink with success? Can I run IRLP off the same Signalink or is a seperate interface required? Thx, Joe
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have an email address or a phone number for K5JXM ?
how about Bristol Ferry Road.
you gave it away when you gave out your call sign to everyone.
and you would be extremely pissed.you could that the address and then look
up your tax info in the R.I. govt. info.
so please take care.
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From: Chris Carruba
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have an email address or a phone
number for K5JXM ?
I would be extremely pissed off if someone published my personal info on a
public board in this manor.
Chris Carruba (WQIK389)
CompuTec Data Systems
Custom Written Software,
Networking, Forensic Data Recovery
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:36:47 AM
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Mike, from the Internet...
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(972) 396-5807
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From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail. com
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for K5JXM ?
I'm looking for contact info for Jesse Marroquin K5JXM in Plano Texas.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Iso-coupler
TX RX as for Bob - Original Message - From: Dr. Ron Johnson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Iso-coupler Got and opportunity to locate a repeater on a nice tall 1000 watt broadcast tower.I need an iso-coupler. Where is the best place to order one? Who has the best pricesthese things are not cheap.It will need to be cut to freq of course ron
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater)
and may I ask why? is there a problem with the factory set up? thanks - Original Message - From: Alexander N Tubonjic To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Interconnect (Inside Repeater) I am wanting to swap out the BNC receiver connector to an N connector on my Kenwood TKR-750 2 meter repeater. After contacting Kenwood and getting quoted some crack prices I figured I'd see if anyone has anything laying around or has any ideas on here. I've got the BNC Connector and the existing cable that goes from the BNC to the RX Board removed from the repeater and sitting on my desk. I also have an N Female connector that I want to put in line. The existing coax interconnect is not long enough to cut the BNC off of and solder the N on and have it be sufficient length to reach both the board and the back of the repeater. The cable is the super small sized coax terminated one one end with the little micro RCA looking plug and the Connector is on the other end. If I remember correctly it looks exactly like the coax interconnects found in the Mitrek, Syntor and all them. I'm thinking a scrap Mitrek or Syntor would work fine (any thoughts on just ganking a cable from another radio?) Anyone know where I can purchase a new cable terminated with that micro plug from (other then Kenwood, because I'm not about to pay $34 for two feet of cable) Also, I've been thinking about taking some small copper pipe and routing it inside the repeater from the BNC opening in the rear to the RX board to run the coax inside of for a little better shielding against the TX. Any thoughts/comments/suggestions on that idea? Thanks guys! Alex N4TIA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater?
I think Motorola may still sell it. that is where I got mine. If you are going to do Ham on the R-100 you will need to mod the factory software to do it. John \ - Original Message - From: ray kalbfeld To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater? does anyone know where i can get RSS software to program my little Motorola R100 repeater and my HT600 walkietalkies? Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com -- To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: wa7...@cox.net Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:02:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater? Yes, Works good for a low cost repeater controller. Also does a link if you want. Dennis skipp025 wrote: Re: True Value Software [Hardware](controller) in your repeater? Never heard of the True Value Software TVS-701 Repeater Controller before. Any of you folks got (John Madden) one in a box of yours? True Value software TVS 701 Repeater Controller Ebay Item number: 290289330903 your opinions please..? cheers, s. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 3:09 PM -- Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bridge Com Systems CS540V repeater information.
sold one or two for 2 meter use and yes was able to get them down to 144. with a software update John - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bridge Com Systems CS540V repeater information. I have a BridgeCom UHF repeater, that I bought for testing. I must assume that it is very similar to the VHF version. It comprises two Maxon mobile radios in a box, with a Samlex power supply, two cooling fans, and a rudimentary controller. I consider it to be a low-tier and inexpensive, basic repeater for low-volume traffic, perhaps comparable to a Motorola GR1225 or Kenwood TKR-750. I found some bugs in the programming software, which the BridgeCom engineer promptly addressed. Some issues, such as the Morse ID code speed which exceeded the Part 97 limit of 20 WPM, had yet to be addressed. I do not know if that has been fixed, nor can I state whether or not the VHF version will cover the entire 144-148 MHz two-meter Amateur band. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wa5luy Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bridge Com Systems CS540V repeater information. Has anyone had any experience useing a Bridge Com Systems CS540V in the lower part of the 2 meter band at 145.35 MHz? The specs say it will go down to 147 MHz. We would not be using their duplexer. Also how about the quality of construction, ease to work on, common problems. Thank you.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic
yes get Vitural PC and load dos 6.22 it works fine. - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic At 07:59 PM 1/17/2009, Mike Mullarkey wrote: Does anybody know if one can get a DOS program to run on Windows XP. If it's a RSS program, it won't run inside a DOS window from XP and you need to boot into DOS at powerup (make a bootable CD to do this). Otherwise if the program you want to run WILL run inside a DOS window from within XP, just click START RUN and at the C:/ prompt, do what you need. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 38a Hookup
Zetron made a cable to do that with programming info. you may call them for the info. - Original Message - From: Rocky Christie To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 38a Hookup Please help, Need to connect a 38a to a pair of gm300's
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Used Outdoor Repeater Cabinets?
Get your self a used traffic controller box they work great and they are water proof. John - Original Message - From: Alexander N Tubonjic To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Used Outdoor Repeater Cabinets? Does anyone know of any sources for used outdoor repeater cabinets? I've gotten permission from a local tower owner to locate an amateur repeater on their tower but one of the stipulations was no access to the existing equipment room. After a quick search of Tessco I see the cheapest outdoor enclosure is going for around $2k. Does anyone know where one could be found for cheap? Any information is greatly appreciated, thanks. Alex
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900mhz , DTR, 906 to 923.75 MHz FHSS
Get yourself a GMRS license and put up a small 462.5 75 to 462.725 repeater and all of your family could use it. John - Original Message - From: ANDRE To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 900mhz , DTR, 906 to 923.75 MHz FHSS Hi all, I have 2 motorola DTR FHSS 900mhz, and i want to bild a repeater for use in my farm thats near my store , 5miles. I know the max watts DTR are 1W, and i didnt find any Repeater or amp for it. I found 900MHz Smartamp, 10W amp that works on FHSS, so i was wondering, Can i use a DTR + simplex 40second rec + smartamp + antenna? Will this amp (its for data) - 12-103 SmartAmp Bi-Directional 900 MHz: 10 Watt Designed for extending the range of 900 MHz wireless radio devices, this is particularly effective when used with Direct Sequence or Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum. Full output power of 10 W is achieved with only 16 mW input to the amplifier. Above 16 mW input, the SmartAmp™ attenuates the input signal power and maintains the output power typically at 10W. The built-in dynamic power sensor in SmartAmp™ adjusts the Radio Frequency (RF) power output level by reading the input signal power. This Automatic Gain Control (AGC) Technology, Teletronics' patented technology effectively making the RF amplifiers Plug Play delivers the maximum output power at various input levels while keeping the distortion at a minimum. Technical Specifications Smartamp Features: 10 Watt Operating Range: 902 - 928 MHz Operating Mode: Bi-directional, TDD Transmit Gain: 28 dB (can be customized to 33dB) Frequency Response: ± 0.75 dB over operating range Output Power: 10 Watt (+40 dBm) nominal TX Input Power: 500mW Receiver Gain: 12 dB typical ±1 dB Noise Figure: 3.5 dB typical Connectors: N-type, female, 50 Ohm Lightning Protection: Quarter Wave Technology DC Surge Protection: Available Power Consumption: 2A @ 12-15 VDC (100% duty cycle) Operating Temperature: Amplifier: -30 °C to + 70 °C 15V DC injector: -30 °C to + 70 °C will work in this way? or anyone knows a repeater for this digital radios(cheap please) Thanks Mattos
[Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater
Have a new in box Icom Fr-4000 repeater for sale. $1145.00 also covers shipping to the 48 states. Florida sales must add sales tax. also a number of Micor repeaters for sale all UHF was used 460 to 470 band 12 to 75 watt units. Some working units some for parts. thanks John 1-888-708-0709
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater
let me go look at one thanks John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater John, How much for a part of of one of your scrap Micor. I'm looking for the metal L shaped bracket that secoure the PL decoder board to the rear of the unified chasis. Don't need the PL bd. , just the bracket and screws. -- Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709 Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Have a new in box Icom Fr-4000 repeater for sale. $1145.00 also covers shipping to the 48 states. Florida sales must add sales tax. also a number of Micor repeaters for sale all UHF was used 460 to 470 band 12 to 75 watt units. Some working units some for parts. thanks John 1-888-708-0709
Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking to trade for a db-408 or db-420 for GMRS
where are you at? - Original Message - From: kc8gpd To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 7:37 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] looking to trade for a db-408 or db-420 for GMRS i have various computer and radio gear. i'm trying to put up a 675 pair gmrs repeater at my xyl's parents place. i got a hamtronics repeater with a pass-reject duplexer and a tp-38. it's running 45 watts. i got it for $400.00, but i'm still making payments to the guy so i'm a little cash poor right now.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB antenna question
they have made them in the past DB John - Original Message - From: n3dab To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB antenna question I'm running out of antenna mounting positions at my site. Has anyone tried any of the following ideas and if so what were the results ? The intent here is to run 2 rptrs. using a common mast to support 2 antennas. 1. Mounting the dipoles and harness from a UHF DB420 on the same mast as a VHF DB224, or vice versa. (UHF and VHF antennas on the same mast) 2. Mounting the dipoles and harness from a DB420 on the same mast of an existing DB420.(2-DB420 UHF antennas on the same mast) 3. Taking an existing DB420 antenna and feeding the upper and lower halves with separate feedlines to make 2-6 Db antennas on the same mast. The lower harness section would be replaced with with the upper harness section from a junk antenna. In 1. and 2. the dipoles of each antenna would be at right angles to the existing antenna. In 3. the overall gain of the single antenna would be reduced to about 6 Db for the upper and lower halves. Additionally extra filter cavities would probably be required to keep the 2 rptrs. using the antennas from interfering with each other. If any of the above ideas are practical this would allow me to recoup some additonal mounting positions or at the least reduce the clutter of antennas I have now. All constructive comments will be appreciated. Doug N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted
where are you at? - Original Message - From: Ian Miller To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF repeater amp wanted Hi guys, Our club is looking for a small repeater amp (50 watts max) for our UHF machine. Right now its putting out a whopping 6 watts - we did a test with a 25 watt strip off a TAD-450 commercial rig and the listening station reported a significant gain. The signal went from 1 s unit on his rig to 8 s-units. I am wondering if any of the GE or Motorola final strips are good enough to handle the duty cycle. The little TAD unit I tried briefly worked, but I'm sure would burn out in short order. You can contact me off list at va2ir at securenet dot net Thanks Ian VA2IR VE2RMP Repeater Group
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters?
in the past we had programming the 7000 have sold the Kenwood and Icom with no problems John - Original Message - From: John Transue To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters? I see several Vertex Standard VXR-7000 repeaters and one or two Kenwood TKR-851 repeaters for sale on eBay. Are these good repeaters for a ham repeater? Do they have known weaknesses or defects? John Transue
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply Wanted
how about a Micro power supply? John - Original Message - From: Michael Ryan To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply Wanted I'm looking for a rack mountable 50 - 70 amp 12 volt supply. Anybody have one under the bed collecting dust? .thanks. - Mike (941) 376-6453
[Repeater-Builder] Icom repeater
Subject: Icom repeater I have 2 demo Icom FR-4000-3 repeaters for sale Will program to your GMRS channels, tones and call sign. $800.00 each and shippingFL address add sales tax. thank you, John (727) 441-3250
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF and UHF repeaters on one antenna
talk to the people at TX RX - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF and UHF repeaters on one antenna At 9/22/2008 19:10, you wrote: I've been running an MSR-2000 on a Tram 1481 antenna on 146.72 with a Sinclair Q2330E duplexer and it works fine. I just got a retired Motorola UHF repeater (C64RCB-3105AT) with a Sinclair Q-306D duplexer and was wondering if I could use both repeaters on the same antenna. Would I be able to get away with a ham-type VHF/UHF duplexer like a Comet CF-4160K? Yes. Just make sure it's the model without pigtails, be careful if either of the repeaters runs more than 50 watts. The combined TX power rating will probably be lower due to capacitor voltage ratings being the limiting factor as opposed to heating. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor repeater equipment for sale
Gervais, and where are you at? JOHN - Original Message - From: gervais fillion To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor repeater equipment for sale Too bad Glen you are so far from me, i need an uhf repeater here,even built with 2 mobile radios. it would have been what i need on the mountain i must have one as a relay here 73/s good luck in your sale gervais ve2ckn To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:17:26 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor repeater equipment for sale I have the following Motorola Micor equipment for sale: 1.UHF Micor repeater set up for 443.900TX 448.900RX TX and RX PL reeds 136.5 with power supply, Power amp TLE1713A, External Meter unit, Multi PL Decoder Module, Squelch Gate Module, Time Out Timer Module, Station Control Module. Need to interface your own controller asking $300.00 or make offer plus shipping from zip code 95817 2.UHF Micor community repeater Model C64RCB-6105AY 466-461.175 with PA TLE1714A-1. No power supply. Time Out Timer Module, Master Decoder Module, One 4 user module. NO PL reeds. Channel Elements for both TX and RX. $150.00 or make offer Plus shipping from zip 95817 Yahoo! Groups Links --
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: We all Love Super 33+ ....
yes when we did traffic signal installs they always had us use 88 and sometimes a gray tape that the phone co had and it was used for a lot of the wires that got cover in the ground. - Original Message - From: Al Wolfe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: We all Love Super 33+ Most of the advice given here about taping antenna connections and the techniques has been right on. However, I've been using Scotch 88 for sealing connectors since about 1970 as it is twice as thick as 33+. Supposedly the same material, just thicker. I was also taught to spray the connections with clear Krylon before and after taping. Also, spray it on all the external hardware, nuts and bolts, etc. It dries so thin that the hardware can be easily removed but does provide protection against corrosion, at least for a few years. Al, K9SI
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rackmount clips/screws
Lowes has them also Ace - Original Message - From: souryatlexcomincdotnet To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rackmount clips/screws Hello Everyone, Does anybody have a source for the spring clips and screws for the rackmount cabinet rails. Either type (that was used with the GE and Motorola cabinets) will work. What few I have are used up and needing additional to mount more equipment. 73 and thanks, Doug N4TZD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood squelch quality
FYI For a high end repeater look at the Kenwood TKR-740 We use a lot of the TKR-840 and they are as good as a Micor. John - Original Message - From: Chappy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood squelch quality Thanks for the many replies to my original question. Although I didn't expect so much debate about tone vs carrier squelch, many of the comments were quite informative. I especially enjoyed the concept of csq for strong signals and tone for weaker ones. For the record, this 2M repeater has existed for at least 33 years with very little down time, covering about 60 miles along I-65, which is one reason it has remained open squelch. Sure, there are occasional aggravations during band openings, but it is generally well tolerated. There have been many changes in equipment, starting with pre-prog strips, pro- gressing through chassis from VHF Engineering, Spectrum, Hamtronics, Mitrek, M2, etc; controllers from ACC, NHRC, and Link, and CATV line to Heliax, etc. and of course antennas from Ringos to Hustler to Celwave to DB. I'm sure many members of this list can relate to systems such as this one. Through the years many tech crews have come and gone, and the present one (me) is getting older and tiring of the mix, thus the proposal to move on to the Kenwood TKR, based on the many favorable comments about it and my experience with one deployed at my former workplace some months ago. For the time being, the TKR that we hope to deploy will stay in CSQ, with an option to switch to tone on occasion. My original post was to seek assurance that the stock squelch in the TKR will perform well, without the need to add a RLC-MOT or similar. Thanks again for the good advice. Chappy Rice kd4ss
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality
We are both a radio dealer and have a number of repeaters on the air. Have a Kenwood TKR-751 on 2 meters and it works very good it also has a 210 controller on it. Also a GMRS repeater Kenwood TKR-850 with a 210, no problems and a number of the TRK-740 and 840 repeater in use. Also have Micor UHF and a Johnson UHF. The Kenwood's 840 work as good if not better than the Micor's and the Johnson thanks - Original Message - From: chappyr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality A club is considering Kenwood TKR repeaters for 2M and 440. The 2M repeater will be carrier squelch--no tone. Would appreciate comments how well the Kenwood squelch works, compared to the famous Micor squelch, RLC-MOT, MASTR2, etc. Thanks -- kd4ss
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality
I am talking about the newer Kenwood repeater's TKR's about the last 2 years or so. Also Kenwood has a new repeater the NXR-800 UHF and the NXR-700 VHF. Will be testing the NXR-800 soon. John - Original Message - From: wd8chl To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality chappyr wrote: A club is considering Kenwood TKR repeaters for 2M and 440. The 2M repeater will be carrier squelch--no tone. Would appreciate comments how well the Kenwood squelch works, compared to the famous Micor squelch, RLC-MOT, MASTR2, etc. Thanks -- kd4ss You're talking about the newer TKR-750/850, right? It seems they are pretty stable in the ones I've listened to over the air. Doesn't have the real quick drop-out of the Micor, but it's reasonable. I HIGHLY recommend, however, that the capability of putting the repeater in tone-access remotely be included. You WILL have the need to keep out-of-town signals on the same frequency from bringing up your repeater at some time or another.
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] ISO Slow Computer for R100 repeater programming
I have a PC that I run Vertral PC and dos 3.1 is in it works fine that way to program John From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/13 Sun PM 07:08:10 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] ISO Slow Computer for R100 repeater programming John, It is hard to give away old computers these days, even some that are 3-4 years old. I have about 5 nice CRT type monitors I've offered for coming to get them and no one even responds. I bought a 486 IBM lap top at a Hamfest for $10 that actually worked and had external floppy with it, but some at the same Hamfest went for $100 and a friend of mine bought one of these that did not work. I bought mine just the same purpose you need. For your RSS programming I would recommend a 486. It should be slow enough for this. I also use a desktop 486 for programming Mot HTs. With the club I would get the repeater working and charge them double and maybe something for your time. It is with so many wanting others to do the work, they get the benfits and still complain, but still will not lift a finger. If they will not pay take the repeater and sell on e-bay, hi. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: John Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/13 Sun PM 07:29:39 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ISO Slow Computer for R100 repeater programming Where does one fine a CHEAP but reliable old computer for this purpose. I understand that if the clock speed is too fast it can turn the machine into an expensive doorstop. I am not seeking the RSS software, just a slow computer with DOS on it to run the software with, I am located in Southeastern Indiana does anyone know where one can be found? A laptop would be the best and I assume one could be mailed, or a desktop in the Cincinnati or southern Indiana area could be picked up. We do not have a lot of money as we have been rebuilding our repeater system and the membership of the club isnt too enthusiastic about contributing till the repeater is fixed ( Catch 22 ) Thanks in advance for you assistance. Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire Hazards
why don't you just fix it and be safe? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire Hazards At 7/4/2008 15:21, you wrote: OT (sorta)...there is the possibility that the unit may be plugged into an improperly-wired receptacle- which happens often when do-it-yourselfers change out a receptacle. Just a heads-up on the assumption that a professionally wired home is safe. When I bought the house I'm living in now, one of the selling points was that the old knob-and-tube wiring had been replaced with new Romax and a new 125 amp breaker panel (by a professional electrician). All of the outlets were the 3-wire type so I ASS-UMED that all was well and good. The house even passed a buyer's inspection as part of the sale. Well, things were not all as they appeared. After getting The inspector I used checked every outlet in the house, found one in the garage that had line neutral reversed. It is tagged as such, is now only used with fully insulated loads such as Christmas lights. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Change do I retune duplexer?
I don't think you will see a change should work ok. John - Original Message - From: garyp609 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:34 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Change do I retune duplexer? If a repeater was on 447.575 and the frequency was changed to 447.5625 would the duplexers need to be re-tuned? Thanks 73's Gary K2ACY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: anyone know backdoor to csi tone panels
try this: http://connectsystems.com. John - Original Message - From: n3dab To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: anyone know backdoor to csi tone panels RE your message to Sk8ipp - Its not 2x3 method it is a 3x2 method. the first 3 digits are 356 the last 2 are 00 to 99. and you have to triy all of them to find the code it is locked up o( ei: 35600, 35601, 35602, etc.) you also have to wait at least 5 seconds between tries. Once you find the right code then you can enter the program mode and repogram everything including the code. Doug N3DAB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dietrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply skipp, I had already seen your site from a google search. The 23 trick only puts the panel in the tone translation mode and you can't change anything else - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: anyone know backdoor to csi tone panels Mike, Check out my free web page on the subject... and after reading it I can answer questions as I am/was a Service Station for CSI Tone Panels. The back door code information is available on the page below. http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/so02010.html and check out the Super 32 and CSI Plus information on the same sonic page section. http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Mike Dietrich M.DIETRICH@ wrote: Hi group, Does anyone know of a backdoor code or a way to reset the access code on the CSI-32 (not comm spec) tone panels? Any word on where the company went for support? They were in Lynnwood, Washington Thanks, Mike
