Re: [Repeater-Builder] NHRC-2 PC Board Art
You used to be able to get just the board with the programmed PIC from NHRC. I think FAR cicuits also used to have the boards. It might be worth checking. The websites are NHRC.net and farcircuits.net. Paul, kb9wlc - Original Message From: Keith Dobbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:23:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] NHRC-2 PC Board Art I'd like to build the NHRC-2 repeater controller, I have all the parts except for a PC board, before I try and do my own board, is the mask to make your own anywhere? I'd do the kit from NHRC but I already got all the parts I need in stock vs getting the parts in the kit.I dunno if the board is available by itself or not. If I can't find it I figure I'd do one up from the schematics for what I need. Trying to get a backup controller for our 146 repeater and a new controller for our 440 repeater built. Thanks for any info or assistance. Keith Dobbins KC8RFW Repeater Technician W8TAP Repeater Group Parkersburg, WV 26101
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SPARE PARTS FOR YAESU RADIOS
Did you try contacting Yaesu directly? I have ordered parts directly from them in the past. This is from their website: For customer service, technical support or parts, please call 714-827-7600. Paul KB9WLC Peter P J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in need of few spare parts for my Yaesu VHF equipments. After the merge to Standard Vertex, our old YAESU dealer is not able to provide me any spare parts. Immediate need is LCD display units for FT 2500 and 2600. Can any of our readers provide me a source, for international purchase? PETER VU2PJP - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat
Try some citrus based solvent. Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use Scotchkoat from 3M to seal the antennas but dont get it on you, it sticks to you as well as it does the antennas. Any one know of any solvents that can be used to remove it?? I have some on some tools and a spot on my car upholstery (I know, I know) Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From:Paul Finch To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:46PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] NewDB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness??? HelloAll, From what I have seenthe quality is the same but I have been preaching on this board and others youcant install a DB antenna without sealing every screw, bolt, plastic knot,connector and anything else that could leak water. Besides that you musttake all connections to the harness and tighten all screws before you seal it. Once you do that the antenna may possibly outlive most people on thisboard. I have a DB-410 in downtown Fort Worth that I installed in 1976 and itstill has flat SWR. Use Scotchkoat from3M to seal the antennas but dont get it on you, it sticks to you as well asit does the antennas. Paul - From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of SteveAllred Sent: Sunday, January06, 2008 7:40 PM To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] NewDB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness??? YES! Recently replaced a new DB-224 that had wicked waterin the molded harness section and ended up inside the connector. Uponreceiving a replacement antenna, we sealed the heck out of the harness withvapor wrap before installation. This one seems to be holding up for now, fornow knock on wood. The local PD did not like a water loggedantenna! What happened to DB's quality? Upon inspection of theold one, it seems as though the glue that was suppose to be keeping thewater out was not only sparsely applied but was also very brittle. Anymovement of the harness would crack the glue resulting in a potential placefor water to enter the harness. Steve / K6SCA kc4wdi[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We have installed several new db-224 recently. This particular antenna was inverted and has been in service less than 6 months. While doing a routine test, I noticed the ref. power was a little high. The longer the TX was up, the lower the ref. power got; which typically indicates water in a connector or cable. We found water in the connector at the center of the antenna. It DID NOT come through/around the weather seal! The harness was carefully disassembled. Water (and corrosion) was found in the molded junction above the center connection. Has anyone seen this before? Has the quality slipped that much on the new db-224's? Any feedback is greatlyappreciated! - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Findthem fast with Yahoo! Search. REMEMBER - You can find it onebaY No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVGFree Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - ReleaseDate: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVGFree Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - ReleaseDate: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM REMEMBER - You can find it on ebaY - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG FreeEdition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date:1/7/2008 9:14 AM - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New DB-224 w/water cooled phasing harness???
If by inverted you mean the antenna is mounted upside down then the drain holes for condensation are pointing up instead of down. And the water trapped inside would not be able to drain out. Paul kc4wdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have installed several new db-224 recently. This particular antenna was inverted and has been in service less than 6 months. While doing a routine test, I noticed the ref. power was a little high. The longer the TX was up, the lower the ref. power got; which typically indicates water in a connector or cable. We found water in the connector at the center of the antenna. It DID NOT come through/around the weather seal! The harness was carefully disassembled. Water (and corrosion) was found in the molded junction above the center connection. Has anyone seen this before? Has the quality slipped that much on the new db-224's? Any feedback is greatly appreciated! - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] WYGG (RF Radiation Hazard Warning Signs?)
The FCC data base lists their ERP as 1.5KW and antenna height as 26 meters AMSL. http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0facid=19867 n9wys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some checking on station WYGG. 1) They are licensed for 100W; they were operating at 240W. 2) They are licensed for an antenna height of 15 meters (~46 feet). They were operating at almost *3 times* that height (29.9 meters in excess). 3) They had no logs available; 4) There was no designated chief engineer; 5) The station manager didn't have a clue. I think they're lucky to have been able to keep their license - then again, maybe the FCC allowed them to keep it because they know that this is a known-good revenue stream... Mark - N9WYS - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications SCR 77 UHF repeater
If I remember right the prom they used had more than one section and so could be re-programmed. Just one jumper needed to be changed to address the new section. Paul --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, If the IDer has a PROM then little can and should be done to go another way...a new PROM. Do you know the PROM part number??? If one reads it often one can determine the method used for setting up the ID. Some simply use one to turn on a tong gen and a zero to turn off and simply clock a counter thur the addresses and maybe use a second data line output that gives a 1 or 0 when finished to stop. If you know the PROM type one might be able to program and replace. One problem is the PROMs are so old they are hard to find. Depending on the PROM I might be able to help. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: wd4chs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/23 Thu PM 02:37:49 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications SCR 77 UHF repeater I am in need of or someone who knows anything about the CWID for a Spectrum SCR-77 UHF repeater. The CWID it has now functions good only it is not my call. From what I have read about this CWIDer you have to have the manufacturer burn a chip for you that plugs into the board. Is there any other way? Thanks, Tim WD4CHS Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: [Repeater-Builder] tower mounts
Try Sabre Site Solutions http://www.sabrecom.com/tower_components_catalog.aspx Paul, kb9wlc --- JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to get mounts for side mounting an antenna to a tower. Who is supplying stuff like that now days? TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Climbing Safety and Certification
That link didn't work, try this one; http://mrtmag.com/mag/radio_tower_climbingsafety_rescue/index.html Paul kb9wlc --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mobile Radio Technology (MRT) magazine has an interesting article about tower climbing here: www.mrtmag.com/mag/radio_tower_climbingsafety_rescue/ 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 5:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This? Bruce, They have a practice tower at their location, it close to 200 feet if I remember correctly. I think I have heard of them coming to your location for a price and if you have enough people to train. Paul From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This? Paul Does Comtrain train you on the tower you want to be climbing or do you train on their own tower? Bruce In a message dated 6/17/2007 4:31:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Actually there are companies out there that train tower hands, one is Comtrain. They are pretty good about it. Anyone going up my tall tower is supposed to be Comtrained or have some kind of certification. Paul See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 . You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM You can find it on ebaY http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-238/1?aid=10356774pid=2316294 Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FW: VSWR Issues
What you want is called an isolator. This is a circulator with the required RF load already attached. Telewave makes some that will work in the 2-meter ham band. http://www.telewave.com/pricelist/isolators.html Paul kb9wlc --- Mike Besemer (WM4B) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some point in this thread, someone mentioned that we need to install a circulator or isolator to prevent damage from high VSWR and help eliminate interference problems. What suggestions have ya'll got for a 30 watt machine? Mike WM4B _ From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VSWR Issues Greetings all, My club repeater system consists of a KRP-5000 feeding (what we think is) a DB-224 mounted on a watertower at about 140'. The feedline is about 170 feet of one-inch helix. We'd been getting some comments from users about decreased coverage, but had attributed most of them to the heavy foliage we're seeing now (we have the same issue every spring), but nonetheless last night the two of us on the technical committee went to the site to do some checking. (As a sidebar, my background is 24 years USAF as an avionics tech and my buddy works as a radio/radar tech for the FAA.) At the site, a quick power check revealed the problem. 9 watts forward, 3 watts back (checked from both sides of the cans). The transmitter output should be 30 watts. Checked the transmitter into a Comm Systems Analyzer and verified 8.6 watts from the transmitter. So. we know that the transmitter is toasted, no doubt from excessive reflected power. The next step was to put a TDR on the line. Everything appeared to be okay up to the antenna, but the termination point (antenna) looked pretty ragged. What does a DB-224 (or similar) antenna look like on a TDR? (We tried to print the TDR image so I could share it, but the printer was not cooperating.) I need to add that we DO NOT have access to the water tower. Previous club leadership pulled some fast ones on the county and we are forbidden from climbing the tower. Whatever needs to be done, we must use the same crew the county uses and pay all costs. Also, we're the only ones on the tower, so there is no routine maintenance done on the tower that we can piggy-back on. Bottom line. we need to figure out what we need to do and have everything in place if we need to hire a crew to come out and do the work for us. If I had access to the tower, I'd terminate the top of the hardline with a 50 ohm load and recheck the reflected power to verify that the feedline is good. I'd also check power at the top to see how much loss we had. (The antenna has been up there for more years than anyone can remember. we believe that the last time it was inspected was 1994.) The hardline itself looks very good, and we inspected the antenna as best we could from ground-level with a sighting scope and could not see anything obviously mucked up. I'm guessing that the feedline is okay but that the antenna is going to need either overhauled or replaced. and since we're going to have to pay for the rigging crew, replacing the antenna would probably be the cheapest route. Thoughts, suggestions? Did we miss anything obvious? Suggestions for a new antenna that will last as long as this one did? I hate to go to the membership with a 'we think this is what is wrong and we need to spend money', but without access to the tower we're pretty much hamstrung. Anybody got a TDR image of a DB-224 (or similar) that we can use for comparison? Thanks in advance, Mike WM4B Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Jerrold Commander IV Modulator for ATV
It would be simpler and cheaper to find a tuneable or frequency agile modulator. Jerrold, Blonder Tongue, DX Antenna, Drake, and Olson are just a few of the companies that make them. I've seen them for as little as $20. Paul kb9wlc --- Wallace Steinbrecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, I have come into possession of a Jerrold Commander IV video modulator currently configured for UHF channel 27. I want to modify this modulator for ATV use at 439.25 Mhz (cable channel 60) as the TX side of an in-band repeater. The modulator module is model CVMS. The audio module is model CAM and the IF/Channel Converter module is model ICC-26I. Does any member of the group have experience modding these modulators for use on ATV? I have posted this question on some of the ATV boards but have not received a response. Any help would be appreciated. Wallace, KI4DVV __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wanted ISD1420p Voice chip
I can use 2 of these too. Paul Guello, kb9wlc --- DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Digikey turned them into a special order item.I just checked my lab and for some reason I have 4 tubes of the ISD1420P. I have about 60 of them with a date code of 0009. So I will make a Repeater-Builder list and NHRC-2 upgrade special. A never before seen offer! Send me a self addressed padded envelope, with some anti-static foam that will fit a 28 pin .6 wide dip along with the qty of chips you need and I will send you some. First come first serve. Matt Krick 3370 N. Mobile Rd. Golden Valley, AZ 86413 Please make your reservations on list as I do not want anyone to be eaten by the spam filter. I also have some ISD2575Ps, but I don't know of anything that uses them off the top of my head. I need to get some more PICs from NHRC my self. I have 2 controlers that are just sitting here. It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 4 bay folded j pole questions
You may find it works OK on 2 meters. Probably not good enough for a repeater though. There has been discussions here before about extending the elements and building new harnesses. The harness is made up of 75 ohm and 35 ohm Vaporlock weather proof coax cut to multiples of 1/4 wavelength. There was an article on the net about this by kc4fwc, one by wb0upj, and another by kc5dgc. Also look at Kevin's article here; http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/exposeddipole.html Paul kb9wlc --- chuckmf1135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks i found out its a Andrew dB224 - 155-165mhz, i was hoping it would be in the 145mhz - 2 meter ham band range but it seems you cant adjust this type of antenna. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The characteristic impedance of a folded dipole is 300 ohms. Depends on who you ask really. The impedance of what most people call a classic folded dipole is about 300 ohms. But measure the various dipoles by Decibel and Sinclair you'll probably find they are not all standard size dipoles. What Decibel does to match their dipole arrays is nothing like the method used by Sinclair. cheers, skipp 4 of them, fed in-phase, will present an impedance of 75 ohms at the feedpoint of the phasing harness, which will present an acceptable 1.5:1 SWR to a 50-ohm transmitter. As Nate mentioned, some manufacturers build the phasing harness with different impedances of coax to transform the antenna array's impedance to 50 ohms. As far as frequency goes, if you're saying that the length of an element, from the center of the top bend to the center of the bottom bend is 34 inches, it's definitely a high-band antenna. The larger the element tubing diameter, the broader the frequency range the antenna will cover, so you may get that to perform acceptably at 2 meters. See the construction article on the Repeater Builder website at www.repeater-builder.com/projects/exposeddipole.html - it's pretty much the antenna you have. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Re: [Repeater-Builder] still looking for
Why not just order the basic kit from NHRC? These are inexpensive and the rest of the parts could be picked up from another supplier. Paul --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Iam still looking for a cheap NHRC controller to use on a preoject, Iam in the UK. If you have one please mail me direct with a price. My appologies to anyone who has offeredme one and had no reply, this is probably due to my spam filter as it will not asccept certain ISP,s such as MSN or earthlink, sorry but I have to do this due to huge ammounts of spam 73 Steve Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator
From a previous message on this group; Many radio communications equipment manufacturers make isolators: EMR, Celwave, Decibel Products, Telewave, TX-RX, and also Andrew, Connecticut Microwave, MECA, REC-USA, and Raditek, and many more. Contact suppliers such as TESSCO or TALLEY for prices. Paul kb9wlc --- Kent Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Building a combiner now. Frequency is between 400-520Mhz and power is 10W. Need to add isolator/circulator to improve the isolation. Anybody knows suppliers to provide this isolator/circulator? Best Regards, Kent Chong Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator
From a previous message on this group; Many radio communications equipment manufacturers make isolators: EMR, Celwave, Decibel Products, Telewave, TX-RX, and also Andrew, Connecticut Microwave, MECA, REC-USA, and Raditek, and many more. Contact suppliers such as TESSCO or TALLEY for prices. Paul kb9wlc --- Kent Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Building a combiner now. Frequency is between 400-520Mhz and power is 10W. Need to add isolator/circulator to improve the isolation. Anybody knows suppliers to provide this isolator/circulator? Best Regards, Kent Chong Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles
Take a look at the spec sheet for the elements. The mastr ii exec elements have selected capacitors for different frequencies. If the new frequency is enough of a change from the old frequency you will need to change them. Paul kb9wlc --- Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chuck, that is what they sent me, so your math is just fine. Then there must be something I am missing. I can take one of the old xtals and they work out just fine, so I know the receivers are working. Might I ask what the formula you used was? It's been a long time since I have calculated a crystal freq. so just need the formula configuration. Mathew Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If my hasty math is correct: 144.81 low side = 14.84 144.81 high side = 17.33 434.875 low side = 16.39537 434.875 high side = 16.521296 Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles Hope someone can help shed some light here. I ordered xtals from Bomar (3 week wait) for the GE EXEC II mobile radios, 6 for RX for 144.810 and one RX of 434.875, all high side injection. None of them are working at all. At the same time I ordered tx xtals for the same radio, they all work just fine. What might I be missing here, or did they just cut them all wrong. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Slide rails for 19 rack mount.
Try ebay for rack slide rails. http://cgi.ebay.com/Accuride-150-Chassis-Slides-DEC-19-rack_W0QQitemZ170063543843QQihZ007QQcategoryZ20316QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem or search for item # 170063543843 Also drawer slides are similar and may also work. Paul kb9wlc --- n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have or know where they can be purchased? I am looking for a way to mount my controllers on a slide out tray so that adjustments can be made without tearing everything apart. Difficult part is, there is only whole mounts on the front of the cabinet and not the rear, so they would have to be strong. The controller and the LDG voter is not all that heavy. Thanks Mathew __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Exec II, I want to make a portable repeater, is it all the same
I built one completely within the exec II box using a NHRC-4 controller. The second channel of the controller is brought out so a second radio can be connected as a UHF link back to the big repeater. I have most of the info and when I get it all together I'll upload it to the repeater builder site. It was relatively easy to do. It makes a nice 25 watt repeater. Paul kb9wlc --- n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently finished converting some GE Exec II's for crossband operation. Want I want to do is make a repeater from one, in the VHF band. Would everything be the same as when I did the crossband. Will there be any other issues that I might encounter? This is going to be on a VHF unit in the 147 Mhz range. Thanks. Mathew N9LV Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: 1 5/8 N-type air hardline connector
Try Surplus Sales of Nebraska they have some; http://www.surplussales.com/Connectors/HardL-4.html Paul kb9wlc --- dvickn4ome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently our repeater site was burglarized and the connector along with several feet of the 1 5/8 air hardline was stolen. (for the copper) There were several other pieces of hardline also stolen. I'm willing to purchase a 1 5/8 N-type connector for air hardline. I would appreciate hearing if anyone has a connector or a source for one. Thanks Darryl - N4OME Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
Here's a link to the RC-210 that he was talking about; http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html also look on ebay for item # 3092970014 Paul kb9wlc --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neal, You may be referring to the Pacific Research model RI-210 repeater controller for the Vertex VXR-5000 repeater. This is a very capable controller that is made to plug into the VXR-5000, replacing the original controller. I have one in service on my GMRS repeater, and it works quite well. Don't buy it without the required software and programming cable. More information about this controller can be found here: http://www.pacres.com/products/ri-210.html It's not particularly user-friendly, but once I got all of the variables set, it's been working just fine. Its major failing, which seems to be common to every controller on the planet, is that the built-in clock drifts so much that it is useless. I am looking into using a new TAPR kit to synchronize the clock to GPS time... but that's a whole new topic! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Newman Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:56 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? thanks Neal Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Double the gain or double the power?
First check the VSWR. (it may be going up when you add the second set of elements, the harness must be done correctly for the VSWR to stay low) If the VSWR is OK or things are corrected so it seems OK then retune the duplexer using a Spectrum Analyzer and Return Loss Bridge. Do this with the antenna connected so the duplexer is matched to the antenna system. Paul, kb9wlc --- 'Jeff DePolo' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I have to add a tee for the bottom half. The entire antenna is one complete unit 4-folded dipoles. Maybe I assumed and thought all the phasing harness's were already there as I can see where the splits are on the coax. What kind of antenna is it? I am measuring from out of the duplexers up the LMR-400 cable and not at the top. How long is the run of LMR400? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.4/351 - Release Date: 5/29/2006 Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors
I had sample from Switchcraft of a nice right angle rca plug. I tried it in a GE mastr ii repeater and it worked just fine. Look for part number 3502RA. http://www.switchcraft.com/ Paul kb9wlc --- Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, lots of discussion, but nobody answered the question. RF Connection (www.therfc.com) has RF-grade RCA males, standard solder-on type (no strain relief or anything). Short center pin, silver plated, Teflon dielectric. If you can't find them on the web site, call and ask for Joel and tell him what you need, he'll know what you're talking about. --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors My stock of RF RCA connectors (the ones used for carrying RF inside GE MVPs, Mastr IIs etc.) has run dry, I haven't seen any at our local swap meets. Anyone know where I can find these? Thanks. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] accepting recommendations
A licensed amateur radio operator would know that what you are proposing is illegal. Also, the chief engineer of the radio station should be doing the engineering, not you. Remote broadcast regulations are covered by part 74 of the FCC rules are very clear. A license is required and it is not allowed in the ham bands. If you are serious about doing remote broadcasts you will look at Marti radio equipment, Telos ISDN equipment or Tieline POTS codecs. These are just a few examples. It's also interesting that you are not willing to put your name on your message. Paul --- us_communications1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Afternoon Gentlemen, I am looking to build a hi-fi quality audio repeater to feed audio for remote broadcasts of a non-commercial radio station which has been greatly annoying, as I need a specific IF filter for a motorola receiver a tu-540w and I have been unable to find the filter. In addition, the chief engineer for the station has been completely un- helpful. While I am not an amateur radio operator, I am building this repeater for amateur radio use on the 144-148 mc band and the engineer of the station claims he has an amateur radio license, but i am beginning to have my doubts and the engineer has not been supportive of building a hi-fi audio repeater. how can i confirm if the engineer has a amateur radio license? is there a listing of engineers and what licenses they have? i went through a lot of trouble to find the older tube type equipment to build this hi-fi quality audio repeater and want to make it work to serve the non-commercial fm station. what suppliers carry older motorola radio parts? Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Simple PIC Repeater Controller
I agree, it is a repeater remote controller (used to controll the power, commnands and accessories) and not really what is normally called a repeater controller. Paul kb9wlc --- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote: Dinesh, Looked at your controller. Looks pretty good. However, did not see any CW ID or audio processing, a must for a ham repeater. Adding these is a simple thing. CW ID is mostly software. With small PIC memory maybe not enough room. Frankly, I didn't see any transmitter control at all. I would call it a DTMF controller, not a repeater controller. Looks like a nice little board though. Much better then the ones I've seen in the past. And cheaper too! -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] NHRC-2 + MASTRII
I'm trying to interface a NHRC-2 controller into a Mastr II repeater station (the continuos duty actual repeater). The GE controller works fine. But if I connect the NHRC and pull the GE then keying up lasts about a second then it un-keys and re-keys continuosly until you release the handheld. Anyone have any suggestions on what to look for? It appears that the COR voltage drops, if that helps. I've tried everything I could think of. Paul kb9wlc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] heliax connectors
Try Surplus Sales of Nebraska first, they usually have new old stock ones and ebay can be a good source too. Paul kb9wlc --- Tim and Janet Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the best place to get 7/8 heliax connectors reasonably priced. I am looking for N female type. Tim - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3719 There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: MSF-5000 Manuals From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group From: tgundo2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. Re: motorola r-100 problem From: jerrepotable [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6. Re: motorola r-100 problem From: jerrepotable [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7. Réf. : RE: [Repeater-Builder] motorola r-100 problem From: jacques fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8. Re: Réf. : RE: [Repeater-Builder] motorola r-100 problem From: sgreact47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9. Re: MSF-5000 Manuals From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10. FS: Nokia BSR 220MHz/440MHz repeaters From: Erik Finskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11. Re: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12. Re: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13. Re: MSF-5000 Manuals From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14. Re: OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group From: Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15. Re: OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group From: Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16. Re: OT-Mitrek Yahoo Group From: Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17. Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? From: derigent1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18. Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? From: Gene Fassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19. Fan timer From: hl31943 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20. Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? From: vmckever [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21. Re: Fan timer From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22. Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? From: Gene Fassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23. Re: Fan timer From: KB6ZOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24. Re: MSF-5000 Manuals From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25. RE: Réf. : RE: [Repeater-Builder] motorola r-100 problem From: gervais fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message 1 From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:04pm(PDT) Subject: Re: MSF-5000 Manuals Don, The Basic Service Manual and all Detailed Service Manuals are still in print and available from Motorola Parts at 800-422-4210. The Basic manual applies to all four bands of MSF5000 stations (VHF, UHF, 800, and 900), while the Detailed (Depot) manuals are unique to each band. Each manual comes in a nice ring binder with tabs. Here's the whole list: Basic Instruction Manual 6881092E05, about $41 VHF Depot Manual 6881092E75, about $68 UHF Depot Manual 6881092E80, ditto 800 MHz Depot Manual 6881092E85, ditto 900 MHz Depot Manual 6881092E90, ditto 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wisdom Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 Manuals Hi, Im looking for a set of MSF-5000 manuals for UHF MSF-5000 low govt split. Please advise on cost and availability. Thanks --Don Wisdom Yahoo! Groups Links Message 2 From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:04pm(PDT) Subject: Re: 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? Fix the old one? You can get those transistors, unless the boards are burnt up it's worth it. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of derigent1 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220MHz Repeater Power Amp??? I'm working on re-activating my long dormant 220MHz repeater in Cherry Valley NY. My old TPL, 100 Watt PA died long ago after an anomalous high voltage event I can't seem to find much on the market these days to replace the PA other than the Hamtronics PA which sells for like a grand. Any suggestions Gene WA2IJE Yahoo! Groups
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 versions
If this is for a repeater you definately want the one designed for 2 meters. I've been screwing around with modifying one of the 150's for months trying to get the swr down. It would have been worth it to buy a new one for 2m in the first place after all the time you put in to it. Paul, kb9wlc, k9uws advisor --- Chappy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We plan to buy a new DB-224 antenna for 146.34/94. We notice the popular model covers 150-160 MHz. Also available is a model covering 138-150 MHz, for about $50 more. I've heard many times that the 150-160 model covers 2 meters just fine. In fact we have a DB-264 with 150-160 MHz specs and it seems OK. Is it worth it to look for the 138-150 MHz version ? Thanks -- kd4ss Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anetenna Help
I've made an antenna whip out of a stainless steel heliac welding rod. If you can scounge one, that might work. Paul, kb9wlc --- Thomas Flint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dual band magent mount antenna, the other day during high winds I lost the antenna part. Do to financial issues I am unable to buy another at this time. Does anyone know of away I can make it work using something else in its place. Any help would be greatly appreciated. KL0LS Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LM-386 audio buffer board
I'd be interested in some too. Paul kb9wlc --- ldgelectronics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a board that is 90% of that. It was meant to be used with an off board pot and does not have the .05 uF / 10 ohm network. This was for another project that never took off. I have hundreds of them that you can have just for the shipping cost. Let's say $1 for 5 or less. E-mail me directly. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG Did anybody ever cut a board for the LM-386 audio buffer project on the repeater builder web site? I am getting tired of vector boarding the things. Thanks, td wb6mie Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 ft.) faced tower
What broadcasters do to get the best pattern on a large tower is to mount the antenna on the leg coming straignt off the leg. (perpendicular with the opposite face) Paul --- Roger White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, many thanks. I do not have the old catalog and remember something about the orientation of the dipoles toward the tower. But, I imagine since this tower is so wide, it will affect the pattern no matter what, but the site has cheap rent :), so beggars can't be choosers! 73, Roger - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB 224 Antenna Orientation on a large (?25 ft.) faced tower Roger, My Decibel Products catalog shows that a DB224E-JJ antenna can achieve nearly omnidirectional coverage when side-mounted on a tower with a DB5001 Side Mount Kit, with all dipoles pointing inward toward the tower. This kit positions the antenna mast 18 inches away from the tower. Other spacings will probably affect the pattern significantly. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Roger White wrote: I am going to put up a Andrews dB224JJ (220 MHz antenna) on our tower at TI in Dallas. I have had an antenna on this tower up at 250-270 ft. for many years (a 6dB Stationmaster for 145 MHz and a 6dB Stationmaster for 224 MHz). Our 2 meter antenna is now a dB224, with the dipoles situated around the antenna mast as if for a top of the tower mount with an omni pattern. The 220 antena is an anemic 3 dB gain Antenx, which is not much better than a wet noodle with some gain. I seem to remember somewhere (maybe an old dB Products catalog) where for an antenna of the dB224, if you face all four dipoles toward the tower, you stand a chance of getting s more omni pattern (at least it is suppose to have somewhat equal gain ripple around the tower). The tower is 25 ft. wide on each face. The antenna will be offset from one leg around 5 to 6 feet at least. Does anyone have any experience in mounting this type of antenna in this manner? Roger W5RD Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF Tilt Compensator Schematic?
Just buy the tilt compensator or an amp that has one internal. Try Toner cable equipment and Quality RF services, those are two companies I remeber dealing with, there are several more. Paul kb9wlc --- DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is 75 Ohm cable, Paticualrly RG-6 Plenum which has approx 1dB of Tilt per Octave at 100'. Maximum power is +25dBmV. Intersted in attenuating the lower channels more than the upper ones, and I will follow it with an amp on each floor after it is compensated. Some genius company, that is used to installing security systems in Las Vegas ran the cable in this building and thought that a single amplifier would cover the entire building. Which is scary because the company had the $4000 piece of test equipment to tell them how screwed up their install was. Up on the third floor I measured 50dB of tilt between Ch.2 and Ch.77 On 11/12/05, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Which way do you want to tilt it? To compensate for cable that precedes it? Does it have to be for 50 ohms, or will 75 be okay? How much power does it need to handle? Kevin Matt, Which way do you want to tilt it? To compensate for cable that precedes it? Does it have to be for 50 ohms, or will 75 be okay? How much power does it need to handle? Kevin --- Original Message --- From : DCFluX[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent : 11/8/2005 6:33:36 PM To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc : Subject : RE: [Repeater-Builder] RF Tilt Compensator Schematic? Any one have any ideas on how to build a Tilt-Compensator? I had come ideas about using a pre-emphasis circuit, but that is designed for audio frequencies and I need something for 50-550 MHz. Preferably with a slope adjustment so it can contend with varying lengths of cable. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group Repeater-Builderhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] decibel db-224 (vhf) drawings)
Yes, I'd like to see them. Paul kb9wlc --- skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone be interested in drawings of the Decibel DB-224-A (150-160MHz) DB-224-E (138-150MHz) Antennas? Like the previous UHF Decibel Antenna drawings scanned into pdf file and available on my sonic page and the Repeater Builder site, these are available free. Reply direct to me or wait for Mike to get the copies I've emailed to him up on the RB-Site. I'll also have them up on the sonic page in a week or so... cheers skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com www.radiowrench.com/sonic Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any ideas? (a little off topic)
If I understand what you want to, get a radar image to a remote or mobile location. I thought about two ways to do this. First, break it down into source and transport. The radar image or source material could either be taken directly from a video output of a computer (use a video card that has a standard video output). Or take the video output from a vcr or other video tuner if the radar is from TV, and do a video capture. This could also be done with a computer. For transport either use wireless internet or the 440 ham ban. Part of the 2.4 GHz wireless internet band is within a ham band, so a ham can legally run higher power bi-directional amplifiers. The laptop used for receiving could have a card with external antenna jack. Or use the 440 ham band to do TV transmission. There are a couple of cable TV channels that lie within the 440 ham band. So, with the right equipment a video transmitter could be setup and then use a cable ready TV for the receiver. Check the ARRL website for more information on both of these ideas. Paul, kb9wlc ~Ben, KB9LFZ --- David Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] crystals
I have never had a problem with JAN or Bomar, and International is good too, but expensive. Paul, kb9wlc --- Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best places I ran accross that are still making crystals are International, 800-725-1426, in OK and Bomar, 800-526-3935. For a pair including shipping International $47 taking about 6 weeks, Bomar $60 with true 2 weeks. Think both are about the same and make a very good crystal and are well worth the extra money. Please don't use JAN, hi. Just have to give them radio, freqs and payment. This is just the crystals for you to install in ICOMs. Both have ICOM service, but cost much more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron is the owner of Micro Computer Concepts, a manufacture of repeaters and repeater controllers since 1988. You may see our products at http://home.earthlink.net/~mccrpt or call at 727-376-6575. Contact me at 8849 Gum Tree Ave, New Port Richey, FL 34653 USA Owner of the 146.64 repeater, the highest repeater, 1175 ft HAAT, in the Tampa Bay area, Florida. The repeater also has ECHOLINK, node 79540. Pasco County Skywarn Coordinator Skywarn meets on 146.64 each Wednesday at 8 PM. Skywarn nets are activated on 146.64 when the National Weather Service broadcast a weather alert. see our web page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pascoskywarn/ All are welcome. [Original Message] From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/20/2005 8:41:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] crystals Where can I find 6 meters Crystals for a GE Master II . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PARTS
For circuit board materials and supplies: Circuit Specialists and Edlie Electronics carry most supplies. For circuit boards ready made for assembling projects from magazine articles (mostly ham radio) Far Circuits http://www.farcircuits.net/ Paul KB9WLC --- KE5CTY Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I called him after looking over the website and he is a great guy. Has been doing this for a long time. Problem is because we are starting from scratch the XYL says its too much to spend. So I am trying to contact some clubs to see if they have anything they would get rid of (even if the boys have to remove it from the board first). Have to take it little by little I guess. It all adds up. Maybe this will be a good lesson for the boys also. Came to about 100.00 for mounting hardware and all the assorted components I thought we might need to stockpile for the beginning. One thing I did notice is that he doesn't have any boards so we can do printed circuit boards at home. I really wanted to teach them how to do it from absolute scratch if at all possible. The experimenters boards are fine but not what I had in mind. I want them to really get a feel for what is going on behind the scenes. I found a pcb layout application that is free so now I just need to find the copper clad board material and some etchant. TNX, KE5CTY (old calls WB5ZQU - WY5L) http://www.qsl.net/ke5cty/ Code may be dieing but the pioneering spirit that put the code there in the first place is still going strong. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PARTS I have been all over ebay, I have not dealt with this place, but it has parts. http://www.danssmallpartsandkits.net/ Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PARTS
Besides the other companies mentioned I use: Ocean State Electronics http://www.oselectronics.com/ Electronic Goldmine http://www.goldmine-elec.com/default.htm Dan's Small Parts and Kits http://www.danssmallpartsandkits.net/ Circuit Specialists http://www.web-tronics.com/ DC Kits http://www.dckits.com/ Kelvin http://www.kelvin.com/ Part of the reason whey things are getting hard to get is that there are not that many people that build things anymore. Paul KB9WLC --- KE5CTY Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been all over ebay, does anyone know where my son and I can find a bunch of Ham Radio related spare parts for building some of the home brew projects we are finding all over the internet but no parts, like transistros, resistors, coils, fets, diodes, connectors, ect in one lump purchase? I thought mabe I would find an estate sale or something on ebay but no luck. We are trying to start building homebrew accesories, ect and are starting from scratch. I have built some parts bins out of cardboard boxes and some wooden crates but can't find any parts except in TV's and old radios. Some are usable but I don't have a reference for most of them to see what the specs on them are. Something that would have assorted parts including perf boards, small enclosures, ect We live in the country and the closest parts store is over 100 miles away so we wanted to find it on the internet and hopefully at discounted prices the XYL says, no more than $50.00 TNX, KE5CTY (old calls WB5ZQU - WY5L) http://www.qsl.net/ke5cty/ Code may be dieing but the pioneering spirit that put the code there in the first place is still going strong. __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help in selecting 2 bay antenna
Are you sure that's the correct part number? It does not come up on the Decibel web site. --- Richard Ranta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seasons greetings to you all! Our club is in the process of moving its repeater and we're going to go with a new antenna. The problem is, the company who owns the tower has a brand new Decibels products A711 antenna. Will this work on the frequency of 145.230Mhz? I hope I'm not asking a question that has just been asked. Hope you all have great CHRISTMAS Richard Ranta K8JX /\___/\ ^ ^ )_o_(I love Samoyed Rescue- Save a Sammy !! U Visit Blaze's Forever Home http://www.foreverhomesamoyed.org Want an exciting hobby? visit http://www.W8USA.ORG A good teacher will try to convince a poor student that they are better than they think they are, in order to give them confidence to do better. A bad teacher only recognizes a poor student. Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Source for custom made cables
RCA plug to BNC jack adapters are readily available. With that adapter all you need then is a N to BNC cable, much easier to find or make. Paul kb9wlc --- w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a good source for made up custom cables for repeater use. Or might someone have what I am looking for. I need a jumper about 3.5' that has an N Male connector on one end and an RCA connector on the other. This is for my receiver from the duplexer. It is a mastr receiver, has a rca type connector on it. Or would it make more sense to change the connector on the receiver to a type N chassis mount. Just not real fond of the adapter I had to use to convert it. Thanks. Mathew W9MWQ Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Update: Problem with Spectrum Communications Corp.
Did you guys send a check or use a credit card? If you used a credit card, then contact the credit card company and explain the situation, they should give you a credit. That's how I resolved my last business with Spectrum after they did not respond for months. Paul --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that Spectrum has been down this road many times! They do not care one bit about the BBB. I was by there a week or so a go and only one car in the parking lot. Not a good sign. If it where me I would file legal action fast. That has bit. Not just civil action but criminal action against the owner. Taking money with the intent not to deliver is a crime in PA. Good luck on this one! 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Update: Problem with Spectrum Communications Corp. The local Better Business Bureau might put a small amount of heat on Spectrum also. Ssb -Original Message- From: Mark Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Update: Problem with Spectrum Communications Corp. Also try this site http://www.plannetfeedback.com weather this business is registered there who knows, but such a posting will be public information. [Steve Bosshard (NU5D)] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] return loss bridge?
The Eagle RLB150x4 is the one I use; http://www.eagle-1st.com/prod/pr2/RLB4/RLB4.htm Paul kb9wlc --- doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am looking for a return loss bridge anyone? doug Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless
Has anyone tried a bi-directional amplifier like this one on ebay; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=61815item=5736479461rd=1ssPageName=WDVW Check the ARRL site for more information on ham use; http://www.arrl.org/hsmm/project.html And check this link for a cool waveguide antenna; http://www.trevormarshall.com/waveguides.htm Paul kb9wlc --- Tedd Doda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 17:00:12 -0800, Ken Arck wrote: Hopefully, Kevin's suggestion is Linux usable as well. Hi Ken: I'm the feed point of a commercial 802.11 network, and using their hardware makes things look very easy. The hardware is Canadian based out of BC, and their website is: https://tranzeo.com/index.php?section_id=10 I've sent them an email to find out if the hardware can be made to work in the Ham band portion of the band. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Supplier of bi-directional RF amps.
What frequency or band does it need to operate on? Paul kb9wlcJack Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks!I wonder if you can help? I am looking for suppliers of low power (around +20dBM) in building bi-directional amplfiers. It doesn't matter if the suppler is US or Europe based.Thanks in anticipation.Jack (:)GM4COXYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Discover all thats new in My Yahoo! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB264-A vs -C dimensions
Changing the spacing between elements will change theangle the signal radiates at slightly. Usually done to bring the signal down further. Paul Guello, kb9wlc Paul Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chuck,I have seen you mention that rule of thumb before. In this case the manufacturer seems to have used 0.78 between the bottom dipole and the top set, and 0.85 between the middle ones... probably a compromise to make the harness fit -- it's inside the mast on this model.PaulOn Saturday 30 October 2004 04:29 pm, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Between 0.85 to 0.95 wavelength, center to center. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Paul Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <REPEATER-BUILDER@YAHOOGROUPS.COM> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB264-A vs -C dimensions OK, I know the major response to this is going to be "forget it and buy the right antenna". but I will blunder in and ask this anyway. Question: does anyone know the center to center dipole spacing for a DB264-A (150 - 160 MHz) antenna? I'm trying to evaluate whether it is feasible to modify a DB264-C (164-174 MHz) to the 2 meter ham band. I need to figure out how many things would have to be changed... Obviously the dipoles would have to be lengthened. That's NOT a problem... (I have someone who can weld in some sections to "properly" extend them). I will have to make up a custom phasing harness, as they apparently don't make a version of this antenna for the ham band. I guess I can handle this... but a longer harness implies the dipole spacing will have to change in order to cram the new harness inside the mast...??? I looked up the physical specs and found the mast is the same length (258") for the A, B, and C ranges. So I may be able to drill some new holes, plug some old ones and get away with it. I'd like to know for certain if they used wider spacing before I dig too far into this. I'm about to disassemble the antenna and see what the phasing harness consists of (hopefully the coax has meaningful numbers on it) Thanks, Paul N1BUGYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links-- Paul KelleyAurora Sentry - http://www.aurora.n1bug.net/N1BUG Web - http://www.n1bug.net/Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controller
Have you checked out the inexpensive controller kits from NHRC? They may have more features than you need, but they are easy to build and small. http://www.nhrc.net/ Paul, KB9WLC --- goreks2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I want to build a simple repeater controller to have as a portable repeater along wit my Motorola HT800 (407-435mhz)to use on small motor sports event but I don't find (I think I use one HT800 as RX and a mobile rig as TX ex yaesu FT7800) Any thing simple, most controllers have DTMF or CTSS in it The only thing I need is PTT opening (maybe 1750 hz ) And a Audio isolation/amplifier if necessary Can any one help me with building instructions Manny thanks and 73 Göran SM1YCE Sweden Sorry for my bad spelling I hope you understand any way Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controller
Ed, The Link RLC-4 is a 4 port controller, I don't think NHRC has anything like that. Paul"Mr. Edgar McKinney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they have a controller like the LINK's RLC-4?EdPaul Guello wrote: Have you checked out the inexpensive controller kits from NHRC? They may have more features than you need, but they are easy to build and small. http://www.nhrc.net/ Paul, KB9WLC --- goreks2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hello I want to build a simple repeater controller to have as a portable repeater along wit my Motorola HT800 (407-435mhz)to use on small motor sports event but I don't find (I think I use one HT800 as RX and a mobile rig as TX ex yaesu FT7800) Any thing simple, most controllers have DTMF or CTSS in it The only thing I need is PTT opening (maybe 1750 hz ) And a Audio isolation/amplifier if necessary Can any one help me with building instructions Manny thanks and 73 Göran SM1YCE Sweden Sorry for my bad spelling I hope you understand any way Yahoo! Groups Links[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] message error
Don't assume that antenna gain is the only thing that effects range. Antenna height, size and length of feedline, quality of antenna and how it is mounted and duplexer quality and tuning all effect range as well as transmitter power and overall receiver sensitivity. High RF enviroments can also degrade receiver performance. Take a look at your repeater as a system, looking at the quality of all of the devices as well as the quality of the installation. One poorly installed connector can eliminate all the bennifits from everything else being correct. Paul, kb0wlc --- ian wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I am sorry i haven't returned any messages as my internet email sever has stuffed up and i haven't received any messages for 2 days or more .it is just i checked up on the builder website to see the messages i have missed.Thanks to all that replied .The db comparrison is being asked as i have 6db antennas on each of my 470meg repeaters and they aren't getting any real distance over flat country .we had 12 db coaxial antennas on our local uhf repeater and then changed them to what was called coppercore antenas and we made a huge difference to our long distance coverage .The range of the 6db isn't bad but we wanted to pick up another 20-50kms at least and installing linears on the site wont benifit as it wont improve rx range without rx masthead amps so the better sugestion was to install higher gain antenas .the sites would be able to be upgraded to 12 db antenas if we can find a supplier .the highest we have found is 9db . but i will certainly take all sugestions into consideration.thank you Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au 1-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Enforcment
I'd like to get the rest of this video. Any idea where one would look? It says 'MetroVision 7 abc', but no indication of where they are. Paul, kb9wlc --- Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a link for an interesting article about interference of radio signal and how they are tracked down , I always thought you had to Triangulate a Signal , Ride along with the FCC I did Virus Check files are ok. Enjoy Don KA9QJG One file is very large and the other is small http://www.sandman.com/files/FCC-Interference.mpg http://www.sandman.com/files/FCC-Interference.wmv Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Small Repeater controller
If you need remote functionality, the NHRC-4 is a dual port controller so you can connect two radios to it. It's about 3"x 3.75". The partial kit is $40 and the other parts run about $35 to $40, so it can be put together for $75 to $80. It's a nice product. Here's a link; http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-4/index.php Paul, kb9wlcPaul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,Who makes the smallest repeater controller with CWID? I may or may not wantremote functionality with this board, any ideas?Thanks,PaulWB5IDMYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!?Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed finding sources of interference
Is there an Air Base in the neighborhood? We have interference on the UHF band here also. Several technicians spent a lot of time tracing it to the local Air Base using direction finding techniques. The Air Force people just tell you to go away, when questioned. Checking the rules, the military does have primary use of the UHF frequencies. Paul, kb9wlcDave Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Residents of lower Michigan,I'm in need of some help identifying two different sources of interference, which appear to be originating somewhere in lower Michigan, to UHF systems in the Milwaukee area.The systems being interfered with are commercial systems, one of which is a public safety repeater.The nature of the offending signals are continuos in nature, and neither appear to be licensed. As the propagation across the lake is enhanced, they become a problem. Its hard to know how much to trust beam headings under these sorts of situations, but bearings taken seem to indicate an origin, of both signals, slightly north of Milwaukee.While it would be wonderful if the FCC was actually interested in pursuing complaints of unlicensed operation on their own, at this point I'm prepared to offer cash rewards to those which provide a verifiable source of these transmissions.If you are able to help, please contact me directly for more information.Thanks,--Dave Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Manual for MSR2000
Anyone out there in repeater land have a manual they could spare or share for a MSR2000? Or know where one is available? Paul, kb9wlc Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel repeater antenna question......
One of the most impressive features of the Decibel antennas is their longevity. They will easily last 20 to 30 years, if installed correctly. These are well designed, well built and worth the investment.bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi AllThanks to all for the many responses to my questions.I see many different ideas on the feed impedance ofthe dB224 and dB420 stacked dipoles.I have seen that the inpedance of a standard foldeddipole (300 Ohm ) lowered when brought in closeproximity to the mast.What is the recommended spacing between the uhf andvhf to the mast to go on the 100 Ohm impedence area ?Has antone done a antenna shootout between theseantennas and other stacked arrays ?RegardsBradley Glen ZS5WT--- Tony King - W4ZT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: You may find this link helpful when looking at the matching harness for these dipoles: http://www.w4dex.com/ant.htm It's appeared here before but will be helpful to see it again. 73, Tony W4ZT At 01:52 AM 4/18/2004, you wrote: --- Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Just curious... how did you determine that each element was 50 ohms? I was always of the understanding that the Decibel design, each element was 100 ohms. Also, that the later versions of Decibel arrays used 50 ohm and 35 ohm cable, no 75 ohm stuff. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Al Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 6:20 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel repeater antenna question.. I've worked on a great many of these types of antenna arrays in the last35+ years and every one had an impedance of 50 ohms at the individualelement. An odd multiple of a 1/4 wavelength of 75 ohm coax takes it to 100ohms. When stacking elements two 100 ohm loads in parallel are 50. Then doit again for four bays, again for eight, etc. In free space their impedance would be higher, but they are designed towork only a few inched from a mast pipe and normally the elements are fairlyfat in terms of diameter to length ratio Hence the nominal 50 ohmimpedance. Another scheme was to use two bays, make the feed line from each bay apiece of 50 ohm cable, the length being unimportant other than being equal,and tying them together for 25 ohms. Then a special 35 ohm 1/4 wave piece ofline brought it back to 50 ohms. Two pieces of 75 ohm cable in parallelwould do the same transformation but can be messy to fabricate. YMMV, though, 73, Al K9SI Judging from the cable and the lengths listed, each dipole must present a 100 ohm impedence, not 50,assuming the data is correct. IF the lengths and types of coax are correctly represented by the web article (and I don't know that for a fact) THEN the impedence would work out to 100 ohms per bay. 50 ohm impedence per bay does not work out correctly, given the info from the web site. http://www.kc5dgc.net/db224.htm Taking their measurements, all coax sections are "Q" sections, or impedence transformers. A 75 ohm Q section will transform 50 to 100 ohs OR 100 to 50 ohms. A 35 ohm q section will transform 50 ohms to 25 ohms OR 25 ohm to 50 ohms. Now, you can start from either end if you know the impedence. Since we know this antenna is 50 ohms at the feed point, and from there it goes through a 35 ohm Q section, the impedence at the first tee would be 25 ohms. Since 2 cables are in parallel at this tee, each cable (at that point) must represent 50 ohms (2 50 ohm resistors paralleled give 25 ohms). Now you can take either leg at this point, since the top pair and the bottom pair are identical. Going through the 35 ohm Q section transforms our 50 ohms to 25 ohms. This would be at the upper or lower tee. At this tee, to have 25 ohms, we must have a pair of 50 ohm impedences meeting at the tee. Now we go through a 75 ohm Q section, which raises the impedence to 100 ohms, which should be the impedence of each dipole, if we want the thing to match. Going backwards, start at the dipole and assume 100 ohms. The 75 ohm Q section changes this to 50 ohms. Two 50 ohms in parallel is 25 ohms (at the top or bottom tee). The 35 ohm Q section changes this to 50 ohms, again in parallel with the bottom 2 bays which would also be 50 ohms, which gives 25 ohms. The final 35 ohm Q section transforms the 25 ohms to 50 ohms, to feed our coax of any length. Now, if we assume each dipole is 50 ohms, here's what happens. The first 75 ohm Q section will increase the impedence to 100 ohms. 2 100 ohms in parallel will give 50 ohms. The 35 ohm Q section will transform that to 25 ohms. Now we have two 25 ohms in parallel, giving us 12.5 ohms going into the last Q section. By using Q section calculations, this 35 ohm section would transform the impedence to 100 ohms, or a 2 to 1 match for our 50 ohm coaxial line. Although 2 to 1
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel repeater antenna question-unbalanced radiating loops
I found the link to the information on the Decibel harness. It's still on theKC5DGC web site. The discussion on the list was that it was mostly correct. http://www.kc5dgc.net/db224.htm Paul kb9wlc Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2 meter 4 bay uses a coaxial matching harness to connect the dipoles to the complete unit. From the connector end it looks like a single antenna with a nominal load of 50 ohms. No baluns are needed.--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, bradley glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi I have been studying the db stacked array and the bayed array seems to use unbalanced dipoles as the radiators .I have tried to find a close up view of a single dipole so I can confirm my ideas. If anyone has some good tech info on these antennas I would appreciate the info. It would make sense to " by-pass " the need of baluns for each dipole -cost and balun loss? Regards Brad ZS5WT Repeater Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.htmlYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel repeater antenna question-unbalanced radiating loops
There are not any baluns on these antennas. If I remember right, they use 75 ohm coax on each bay (odd multiples of quarter wave length) and 35 ohm coax on the feed (again odd multiples) to match the impedance to 50 ohms. This info was on the group a while back, somebody must still have it. Paul, kb9wlc Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a close up pic of a DB304 work for your needs, or I have the DB420 there as well. Mathew bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiI have been studying the db stacked array and thebayed array seems to use unbalanced dipoles as theradiators .I have tried to find a close up view of asingle dipole so I can confirm my ideas.If anyone has some good tech info on these antennas Iwould appreciate the info.It would make sense to " by-pass " the need of balunsfor each dipole -cost and balun loss?RegardsBrad ZS5WT Repeater Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED]__Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15thhttp://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.htmlYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] morse code ID
There's a PIC based id'er project in one of the recent ARRL handbooks. If you are in to building, that one could be build for under $20. The pc board may be available from FAR circuits. Also, there was someone that had a web site that was making one like this for under $30, I can't find the link right now. I'll send it if I locate it. The CWID-2 from Hamtronics is $59 in kit form. I picked up an older model off of ebay for under $30. http://www.hamtronics.com/ Paul, kb9wlc Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looking for a morse code add on card for a repeater, 12 VDC, PPT, 6 to 12 hour timer ect. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] morse code ID
Here's a bunch of links on cw ider's, the first 2 are $30 ider's; http://www.amateurradioproducts.com/beacon.html http://www.qth.com/w9xt/beacon.html The arrl site has the firmware available for download for the PIC based repeater cw ider project by W9/XT. It's called PICCWID.ZIP dated 10/1995 here; http://www.arrl.org/qexfiles/ http://www.farcircuits.net/voice1.htm http://k1el.tripod.com/kid.html http://www.w4dex.com/vhf-eng-cw-id.htm http://www.jenal.com/cwid1.htm Paul, kb9wlc Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan audio
Thanks, this makes sense to me, I'll try it. It is a portable repeater so I would like the fan to run off of the same DC supply as the rest of the rig. PaulKen Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:22 PM 4/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:Either run AC fans or use a different power supply than the one running your repeater to power those DC ones---I'm running two 12 Vdc fans in my Micor repeater. I use a 200 uh chokein each lead (+ -) and a 1000 mf cap across them, on the supply side. Ithen use a transistor to control 'em and I have absolutely no noisewhatsoever using this scheme. I suspect part of the problem is that most people forget to treat bothsupply lines and noise gets introduced due to ground loops and stray currents.Ken--President and CTO - Arcom CommunicationsMakers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.htmlAH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000http://www.irlp.netYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] help with finding a controller
For that price, you may not even find a used one. You could put together a NHRC controller and mount it in a box for under a hundred dollars. Check out their web site; http://www.nhrc.net/ Paul, KB9WLCMike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know a few places I can look for a controller that is in a casealready and is the 5.6" in width. The kenwood width. Also, I am looking fora price range of $50.00 to $100.00.Thank you in advance, MikeYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Fan audio
I put a dc fan on the portable repeater and now I get a slight buz on the audio. Anybody have any idea how to get rid of the buz? I tried putting a capacitor across it and an inductor in series, do I need a larger inductor? Paul, KB9WLCDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: Feed-through caps
Try; http://www.oselectronics.com/ They have a couple of different ones. Also, I have some I could spare. Let meknow the value that you need. Paul, KB9WLCGeorge Salzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All,Happy, Merry and all that good stuff. I left my partsbag up at the site a couple weeks ago, and discoveredthat someone else wanted it more than I did.Unfortunately, I had all of my remaining feed-throughcapacitors in that bag. I quickly browsed throughNewark and Mouser's catalogs and didn't see anythingavailable. I'm assuming that someone, somewhere still makes them,or someone, somewhere, has a small stockpile of them.I need something rated to pass 14 VDC @ 8 amps. Anyonehave any to part with, or know of a good source forthese parts?George,AB0SF__Do you Yahoo!?Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003http://search.yahoo.com/top2003Yahoo! Groups LinksTo visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Transmission line cost performance comparisons
Cable Xperts has a lot of this information on their website. Check it out; http://www.cablexperts.com/cfdocs/cat.cfm?ItemGroup=1itmsub=0BSKT=0USA_ship=1c=0 Paul, kb9wlcBudd Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Turkey Day All Anyone know of a cost and performance comparison done on transmission lines out there? ie. RG-58, RG-8x, RG-8, RG-213, 9913, LMR-200, LMR-400 etc Do you Yahoo!?Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RADIO
Here's a couple of companies to look at: http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/ http://www.tentec.com/Xcvrkit.htm Paul, kb9wlcedel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am a young ham, treying to find a homebrew radio to build, should not be to hard, but pref. 2M , and others would be fine toothanxedd Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.