Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W From: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek?
Ah yes...the old BF-10aI have one.. a little beat up, would love to have a pristine one, just in case. KM3W From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 4:52:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? GE = BF10A RCA = CH751 Joe M. Pointman wrote: Like most of the commercial stuff of that era, the unit was locked into a car or truck instead of bolted in. It made for an easier repair to just unlock it rather than unbolting everything. It sat in a cradle with the locking mechanism that WAS bolted to the car body. GE and RCA also had their keys...GE's was a B210/810? Maybe..? its been a while since I handled any of that old stuff KM3W -- *From:* Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:50:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? It simply locks the cover in place. You'll want a key anyway. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com mailto:kp3ft%40yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] dumb question: what is purpose of lock on Mitrek? Hi, I know it's a dumb question, but after scouring the internet for info, I find everything about locks and replacement keys for Motorolas and other radios, but I still don't know what locking the Mitrek actually does. Does it kill all power to the radio, or disable certain functions? I'm asking because I just acquired a low-band Mitrek that I need to power up and verify its working condition. It doesn't have a control head, so I need to use the front panel pins, but if the radio is locked, I may end up getting nowhere and still not know if it's either the radio that is bad, it is locked out, or I wired it wrong. This is the first Mitrek I've had. Thanks for any help. Jeff KP3FT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3100 - Release Date: 08/29/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's)
Boy, I must be old...I actually remember those radios. de KM3W From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 12:07:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) I have a metal He-Man lunch box with lead based paint. Does that count, or is it strictly two way stuff? ;-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] showing ourage (old HT's) Allow me to show my age ... To me, the HT-220 is/was aXtal Controlled Ht !! Allow me to show my age... The HT here isa VHF Engineering 2 Meter Portable assembled from a kit... and it stillworks. :-) s. ps: Surplus Motorola and GE Lunch Boxesdon't count on the bragging scale.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
Perhaps a lesson from Confucius would be in order as well, later paraphrased by Jesus..Do NOT do unto others that which you would NOT like done to you. I think the Pastor might get the connection. Hmmm I hope. Paul / KM3W From: Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 9:07:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops I had a similar experience with a low power FM transmitter that a church put on the air. I started to get interference on my 6 meter repeater. It turned out that the local church moved their FM station to the tower that I am on and put their antenna on the top of the 300 foot tower 5 feet away from my 6 meter antenna. They never modified their license for the new location and were way over the height on the tower that they were licensed for. The problem was that I was running an ARR preamp that worked fine until the FM station caused overload. They ignored all that I warned them about and I ended up taking the preamp off. (I'm a guest on the tower and I'm not about to complain to the owner). Anyway, they are running more power then they are licensed for, too high on the tower for a low power lFM license, and never got licensed for the new location. All this for spreading the word of the Lord. They mean well, but seems ironic to me. 73, Joe, K1ike On 7/14/2010 10:46 PM, n5sx...@charter.net wrote: I would not do it. Explain that it is illegal, and could get him into serious trouble. And when he tries to hang the BUt its for a CHURCH CAMP guilt trip on you, remind him that Jesus told us to render to Cesar that which is Cesar's and unto the Lord that which is the Lord's.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr Pro
i agree...I have at least 6 of them on UHFeither on the ham bands or business radio...they still work great! de KM3W From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 4:52:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr Pro Todd todda...@... wrote: Does anyone have any info on moving a GE Mastr Pro repeater from VHF commercial to VHF Amateur? I am curious whether anyone has done it, would it be worth it before I end up parting them out for scrap. I also have about a dozen of the Mastr mobile of the era as well. Todd AE7V Hold that Tiger! Don't scrap the radio if you can help it. Sure the GE Master Pro will pretty much dial right down onto the ham bands with only readjustment and a capacitor or two change in the receiver crystal injection stages. And the Master Pro Receiver works just killer (great) and will still hold its own in rugged location service. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Doug Hall Voter - What Would One Pay.
Do you feel it was worth the money? In Other Words...did it do everything you expected it to do? de KM3W From: burkleoj joeburk...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 1:23:15 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Doug Hall Voter - What Would One Pay. Kevin, The last Doug Hall 4RV voter shelf I bought off of ebay came with a 4 ch radio card and a 4 ch line card. I paid $250 for it a couple years ago. It was a brand new spare that was never put in service. Hope this helps. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle spar...@... wrote: Hi Guys, I am wondering what one would pay for a single Doug Hall voter module in good working condition? Be happy to get your replies directly. Regards Kevin.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater family tradition...
This repeaters amp runs on alcohol? Green!!! LOL From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 1:16:54 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater family tradition... I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow I know where to get a controller for that setup... already have the alcohol driven filth part under control. :-)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
wow...my glassesI must need new ones...I didnt even see that!! I saw .965 and didn't think to look at the rest of the freq! Sorry! From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:42:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater 27.315 is channel 31, but 27.965 is not channel 1 - it's in the freeband. Channel 1 is 26.965. Joe M. shield1...@. .. writes: Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Hey Rev, you got teeth... right? From: Ken Arck ah...@ah6le.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:29:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater At 09:23 AM 2/13/2010, i recycle computers wrote: I would not to see one that was built by some toothless piece of trailer trash so he can splatter his alcohol driven filth up and down the band with some unfiltered over driven linear. Simply wow
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater
Let me get this right...you are txing on channel 31 and rxing on Channel 1 in the CB band? You are not in the US I assume. From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 1:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater but for a multiple recieve site setup using a voter as others have pointed out won't work very well with RF links. - Original Message - From: Steve steve.m1swb@ tiscali.co. uk To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater Hi Why not use a uhf link ?, cheaper than a phone line and probably more reliable. 27Mhz, is in the cb band, isn't it Steve - Original Message - From: i recycle computers kc8...@hotmail. com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 11m Repeater here is my thought on how to implement this... TX site: Feq: 27.315 TPO: 4 Watts Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 4 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.315 Br: 27.965 Coax: Andrew 1 Inch Hardline Controller: Rack Mount Custom Controller, and Receive Voter Transmitter: Cutom Built Crystal Controlled 4 Watt AM Transmitter Rx Site: Freq: 27.965 Mode: AM Antenna: Custom Dual 2 Bay Folded Dipole Filter: Bp: 27.965 Br: 27.315 PreAmp: Custom Built Single Freq. Tower Mounted Pre Amp. Receiver: Custom Built Crystal Controlled AM Receiver Coax: Andrew 1 inch hardline Tx/Rx Site Seperation: 1 Mile Minimum Tx/Rx site Linking: Telco Wireline Yes I put a lot of thought into it :) I come up with all these wacky idea's, but never get around to implementing them. Thanks, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis I Recycle Computers Saving UnWanted PC's From The Landfill One Computer At A Time :) Listen To My Free Live Police Scanner Feed for Tuscaloosa / Northport http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3836 - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GLB ID Board
I have several Maggiore COR boards...but of course the one that runs the main repeater is downand Maggiore doesn't make them anymore. From: Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 4:12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GLB ID Board My 6 meter repeater is still using a Maggiore Electronic Lab CORI board. The schematic print date is 8-86. This is a COR board with a diode matrix IDer on it. It just keeps working, never needs to be reset, no lithium battery to change. Kind of boring when you think about it, as it never needs to be fixed. 73, Joe, K1ike skipp025 wrote: And to get 1970 through 1980 repeater circuit nostalgic I really enjoyed building the Diode Matrix ID'er Kits offered up by Hamtronics (probably the best working design), VHF-Engineering (worked OK but was quirky) and Spectrum (haven't had my hands on one yet).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF 5000 Repeater for sale
Where are you located? From: The Rices sri...@cfl.rr.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 7:15:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF 5000 Repeater for sale Please note: Those individuals that are asking me if I will ship need to understand that the only way I know of shipping this is by freight and I have no experience in mounting on a pallet or boxing for shipping. If you want it to be shipped you will have to arrange shipping and pickup (I can have some people on hand to load it on a truck). You will have to find a company responsible enough to palletize it and move it out. Thanks Steve Rice N4YZA 772-664-7238
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any Repeaters Taken Off Air Permanently?
In my area there have been several repeaters taken off the air for various reasons. Mostly for non use. There were a few super repeaters that covered a wide area, but for some reason, even they don't get much use anymore. I guess Nextel and the like killed them. Its funny...there is a university system in the area, that has machines all over the state and in surrounding states as well, but I never hear anyone on it. None of the older local machines are in use. There is a Super Repeater that is single site, and has the same crew operating it as it did in the early 80's. It's great to hear the guys I've known for over 25 years still operating!! Myself, I had an 80 watt UHF repeater than had 220, 6, and 10 meter remote bases. I never expected the 6 and 10 meter links to be used locally. I wanted to give my users the option of working a distant station on the higher bands. This was successful to a limited degree. But as with the gentleman before stated, there were few local 6 meter users, and even fewer 10 meter locals. I did manage to converse with the 10 meter machine in the Virgin Islands on a regular basis when the sunspot cycles were hot...but at the bottom, literally nothing on the air. Likewise 6... I had a great shot to both Florida and the midwest (particularly Wisconsin, for some odd reason) on a regular basis. The 220 link was used to link to another repeater in a shore community about 70 miles away. It worked great at both ends, but there was a lot of dead spots in the middle. I finally took it off that site after the owner of the building sold the use of the roof to a cell phone company for $450,000!!! Money talks and you know what walks. I have to say, it was a great run because I was on that roof from 1984 to 1999. The machine is now at my house in a small city, and is strictly UHF with he 220 link still on, but all of the remote gear is still in the cabinet, but not in use. Pointman From: peme...@comcast.net peme...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 27, 2009 10:07:31 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any Repeaters Taken Off Air Permanently? I have taken at least 3 amateur radio repeaters off the air in the last two years. These repeaters where all located in a large metropolitaian area ( 3 million residents). 2 meters - This was a repeater used for user access to a multi-state repeater linking system. - Reason - No support from the local amateur community and I lost the main repeater site due to a sale of the property where the tower was located. I ran this repeater system for 4 years. Its frequency was re-issued for other uses within a few months after I shut it down. 6 meters - No users on 6 meters in the area. I operated this repeater on and off for about 10 years. Lots to 6 meter repeater pairs available in the area. 10 meters - Repeater was not serving the local radio community. 10 meter FM ground wave coverage was poor, so no local support. This repeater was mainly used by amateur radio operators located in an area in about 1200 mile radius around the repeater transmitter. It gave good coverage to the US east coast ( from the center of the US). The only 10 meter repeater that gave good coverage here was located in the Virgin Islands. I opereated this repeater for about 15 years ( thru multiple sun-spot cycles). Another repeater is now being just established on the vacated frequency pair in the area. Paul K0LAV White Bear Lake, MN - Original Message - From: railtrailbiker railtrailbiker@ yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:53:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Any Repeaters Taken Off Air Permanently? Hi: Are there any current or former repeater owners/operators out there who have recently taken a repeater off the air on a permanent basis? If so, what were your reasons? Tony
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any Repeaters Taken Off Air Permanently?
Hi Bob, I wish you luck in finding a site. I had one for 15+ years, when the owner of the building sold the use of the roof to a cell phone company for big bucks. I am in the same boat, but since I have found that most sites and their access are political. de KM3W Paul From: n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, December 27, 2009 10:40:42 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Any Repeaters Taken Off Air Permanently? At 12/26/2009 20:53, you wrote: Hi: Are there any current or former repeater owners/operators out there who have recently taken a repeater off the air on a permanent basis? If so, what were your reasons? I lost a site for one of my repeaters a couple of years ago. It's sitting in my garage (off the air), still waiting for a replacement site. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: ACC controller programing
I have an ACC RC-85 V5.1 controller on my UHF machine. I was wondering if anyone has ever programmed the chip in it for different courtesy tones, etc.I know this was done back in the 2000 or so area by a few guys in the Philly area, but can anyone tell me how it was done or who did it? paul From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 5:00:37 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FS: 220-225 mhz Base Sta Antenna I will take it for sure. Mike (941) 376-6453. You can ship if you like and I will handle that or can go to the hamfest(s). -Mike From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of sjotrollet Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS: 220-225 mhz Base Sta Antenna 595) 220 - 225 mhz Base Antenna Cushcraft model AFM-24DA. 4-Dipole vertical array. New, in factory-sealed box (unopened). From an estate. 9 db gain, 50-ohm, 500w, 100 mph wind survival, DC ground,SO-239 coax connector. Data/specs at www.cushcraft. com/pdffiles/ 951282.pdf. Price: $50 plus shipping. Can deliver free to Ocala or Orlando hamfests. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4661 (20091204) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement
So what is the recommendation to set the loss of the BP cavity? I have a setting as to 3 db, 1 Db, .5 Db Etc. Running the ARR preamp on a UHF repeater, it seems the preamp is a little too much and we get a little desense. I am only running a 4 cavity duplexer and a notch cavity with the preamp. de KM3W From: n...@no6b.com n...@no6b.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 12:50:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement At 11/26/2009 08:30, you wrote: Ralph you bring up a good point of thought. The ham that built our repeater placed the Decibel Products 4002 Bandpass behind the Wacom 6 can duplexer and then followed by the ARR Gasfed P144VDG to the radio. Now where he built it was his tower site (an old ATT brick building) full of transmitters. Now that we have it, it is located here at my house in my ham shack. So, the only transmitters are my 2 meter and HF when I am on HF. The HF doesn't bother it at all and I run low power on 2 meter when I am on that. So, with your thought, I could probably do away with the bandpass all together run the preamp right out of the cans to the radio (which is a GE Mastr II mobile). Yes, but it will offer some protection from your 2 meter radio so you'll desense your repeater a bit less. It also offers some protection from the EMP of nearby lightning strikes: less bandwidth between the strike preamp means less EMP energy reaching the preamp's input. The DB4002 came with either 0.5, 1 or 3 dB loops. If yours has 3 dB loops, then you'll probably see some improvement in sensitivity by removing the can. If it has 0.5 dB loops, you won't notice a difference. 1 dB is somewhere in between, but if you have any amount of site noise you probably won't notice a difference as well. Here in SoCal you can put a 6 dB pad in front of a preamp not notice a difference in effective sensitivity. Needless to say, I don't use them on 2 meters here - the stock sensitivity of an MVP or Mastr II is perfectly matched to our environment. I have noticed that away from this area, the noise floor on 2 meters can be much lower. Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement
So your suggestion is to get a Band pass/reject cavity instead? Or should I get 2 for the added isolation? keep in mind I am on UHF de KM3W From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 2:48:54 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement A total insertion loss of about 1.0 dB works well, in my experience. With two 8 bandpass cavities in series, this gives at least 25 dB of isolation from the transmitter carrier at a 600 kHz split. Bear in mind that your notch cavity has the same deficiency as the typical BpBr duplexer- there is relatively little bandpass effect. A pass-notch cavity is a poor substitute for a bandpass cavity. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Pointman Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: pre-amp placement So what is the recommendation to set the loss of the BP cavity? I have a setting as to 3 dB, 1 dB, .5 dB etc. Running the ARR preamp on a UHF repeater, it seems the preamp is a little too much and we get a little desense. I am only running a 4 cavity duplexer and a notch cavity with the preamp. de KM3W
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking Repeaters Remotely
Make sure you Full PL BOTH tx and rxers. I have had great luck with this method. At least with the Motorolas I use as soon as the input signal is dropped, the no squelch tall...and therefore no constant keying. de KM3W --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking Repeaters Remotely To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 5:50 AM On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Jerry wrote: There have been times when during events it would have been great if two different repeaters had been linked. I've been kicking around the idea of a portable repeater linker consisting of one VHF Radius, one UHF Radius, and a RICK controller in the crossband mode. I've talked to the different repeater owners and they have given me permission to give my idea a try. The 'linker' works great the first time. The receiver radio hears the output of the first repeater and keys the transmitter radio which keys up the repeater. The problem comes in when the transmitter unkeys. The receiver radio hears the tail of the second repeater and keys up. When the second machine drops, the transmitter radio hears the tail of it's repeater and keys up. This continues FOREVER. Does anyone have any ideas or additional logic I can add to solve this problem? Thanks, Jerry Kinda. First... the idea Matthew offered will work. CTCSS on user signal received on both repeaters. Kinda. Problem: ID's. The RICK isn't properly ID'ing the link transmitters. Many of us have been down this path on the list. It'll lead to an annoying discussion of Part 97 if we go too far down that road. But you DO need to ID every transmitter. 'Nuff said. Best way: Put a dedicated link TX/RX at each repeater site or some sort of VoIP linking on its own controller port. In-band RF linking on the user input frequencies is a kludge at best. It can double with users, and has other timing problems... If you MUST link in-band, make the link margin (RF power) high enough that if the link doubles with someone, the LINK wins and captures the repeater receiver well enough that at least one of the transmissions can be heard by all... --- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech. com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable
AI just bought several pre-made connectors from Advanced Receiver Research...but I'm sure you can buy the raw cable and make up your own, as well. de KM3W --- On Sun, 10/25/09, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: From: kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:17 PM Hello, What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go from the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter? What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD
RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
using pure discriminator audio perhaps? --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 1:06 AM Hello Bob, Well..I know you would know what a good machine should sound like. You have worked a few I know! Steve, W4YHD had done some audio tailoring within the unit but just what I could not say. But I know it has been on the air with nary a glitch for a quarter century or more. In fact I would say that his repeater has been the most reliable machine in our club all the years I lived up there. And it is still going strong. - Mike From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of n...@no6b.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 At 10/18/2009 19:17, you wrote: The repeater there in Fairfax, Va on 224.100 has the best audio of any repeater I ever heard. It is a Kendecom. I dare anyone to tell me that they can tell the difference between the INPUT audio and the OUTPUT audio. Very natural, unprocessed, and a pleasure to listen to. - Mike Wondering what you did to it to make it sound so good. Every one I've heard around here sounds very restricted somewhat distorted. In fact, I can usually tell if a repeater is a Kendecom by the characteristically poor repeat audio. Bob NO6B __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4520 (20091018) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TX/RX systems duplexers. WOW!!!
You got -100 db on those cans? WoW!!! --- On Sat, 9/26/09, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote: From: NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TX/RX systems duplexers. WOW!!! To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:51 PM I wound up with a set of Tx/RX 28-38-03-C vari-notch duplex today. I was not expecting much. I got them cheap. The cans are only 4. No big deal. Bigger cans = deeper notches with less insertion loss, right? Well, unless my site master and IFR-2945B are lying to me, I got -100db on the notches and 1.2 db insertion loss! I will say this, the coupling loops are very different than what I have seen in sinclair, telewave and db cans. Does anyone else have any experience with this model? Am I reading things right? All I got to say is, incredible!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HF Remote Bases - Illegal?
Well then, a 444 MHZ repeater controlling a 10 meter remote base would be perfectly legal then!!! DE KM3W --- On Fri, 9/4/09, mwbese...@cox.net mwbese...@cox.net wrote: From: mwbese...@cox.net mwbese...@cox.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HF Remote Bases - Illegal? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:50 PM Somebody needs a new copy of Part 97. MikeWM4B On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM , larryjspammenot@ teleport. com wrote: From the tenmet...@yahoogrou ps mailing list (mainly a group of people who participate in the 10-10 Club awards programs.) There's a discussion on the list about how HF Remote Base stations are most likely not legal. Trying to reason with some of these people is an excercise in futility. But if that was the case, why do almost all new higher-end Repeater Controllers (and even some of the older 1980's controllers like the ACC RC-85 and SM-100 ShackMaster , AEA Radio Link unit, etc.) have direct control of various HF transceivers' capability? Here' s one of the responses: Is it legal to have a remote base with an output on HF below 29.5 MHz? No. If you look at the rules regarding the frequencies available for auxiliary operation, you will conclude that there is no such thing as a legal remote base which uses frequencies anywhere in the 2-meter band for the uplink and downlink. Those systems that go from 2-meter FM to 10-meter FM, or from 2-meter FM to 6-meter FM, for example, are not technically remote bases, even though some hams like to call them that. They are really crossband repeaters and they are legal only if both ends are within authorized repeater segments of both bands. Repeater operation (including all input and output frequencies) is prohibited on all HF amateur bands, except the top end of 10 meters. Likewise, there is no such thing as a legal 2-meter FM to 75-meter SSB remote base, since auxiliary uplinks and downlinks must all be above 222.15 MHz [97.201(b)].
Re: [Repeater-Builder] adjacent repeaters linked
Did you use and Filters that helped isolate the tow transmitters? de KM3W and WPWN390 --- On Mon, 8/31/09, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] adjacent repeaters linked To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:17 PM I pulled off linking two adjacent 224MHz Repeaters. The repeaters are on different 30 mile distant mountain top sites. One repeater has an on-band linking radio (Alinco DR-235) set up on the adjacent frequency. As an example... 224.960 and 224.940MHz. With enough physical isolation, filtering and setup... much to my surprise it works pretty well. The owner wants to now park IRLP on it and waste everyone's time. But they are his repeaters... On toward part 2. s.
