[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Kerchuking Problem

2006-04-08 Thread wn1b8
Scott,

Are you hearing the courtesy tone when this happens? The absence or 
presence of the tone could help narrow the possibilities. Also, what 
provides the PTT signaling for the repeater; tone, cor, or both? 
Have you tried disconnecting the receiver and checking to see if the 
problem still exists?

Scott Madison, WN1B


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's the problem...
 
 Every so often (several times in 10 minutes) we are getting a key 
up
 of our repeater. 
 
 Here is what we know...
 There is no signal coming in on the input frequency. No even a 
small
 spike. It is almost like something in the set up is timing and 
keying,
 but it is not an exact interval. Doesn't matter is RX tone is 
enabled
 in the CAT or not.
 
 Here is the setup...
 Motorola Mitrek trunk mount on 443.275, CAT 250 controller, Com-
Spec
 TS64DS tone board. It has a good 300W 3 can duplexer that is tuned
 correctly and working well. 75Amp power supply. The cabinet also 
has
 an APRS rig in it, as well as a remote receiver for another 
repeater,
 and a link radio, but NONE of that is even turned on (and doesn't 
make
 a difference when it is).
 
 Suggestions as to what to look for...?










 
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[Repeater-Builder] Equipment for Sale

2006-04-03 Thread wn1b8
Our club has several pieces of commercial radio equipment for sale. 
The items can be viewed at http://useca.rfc791.org/4sale/ We have not 
set any prices and will entertain any reasonable offers. Please 
contact me off list if you are interested in any of these items or 
have any questions. I'll do my best to answer your questions.

Items are located in the metro Detroit area. All are untested and 
being sold as is.

73, and thanks Kevin for the approval to post.

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Pl tone encode decode methods

2006-03-30 Thread wn1b8
Steve,

We use two boards but switch the encode on only when the input tone is 
present. The reason for this is it facilitates the use of cross band 
radios. The tone drops out before the courtesy tone and tail so the 
guys doing cross banding can access the repeater in normal time.

I prefer having the tone present during courtesy and ID, it helps 
eliminate timing out by the guys using PL decode, but its not possible 
in this scenario.

73,

Scott Madison, WN1B


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 I have installed tone boards on my micor repeater but had some 
 questions as to what is the best way to handle PL tones.  I have at 
 the moment installed 2 TN-34 Standard tone boards(1 for decode and 1 
 for encode) and it works fine. Encodes as long as the repeater 
 transmitter is up. Do any repeaters only use the 1 board mode and 
only 
 encode upon decode of a signal? This, of course, would mean that the 
 repeater ID and courtesy tone would not be heard by the stations 
 unless they have PL decode turned off. Anybody think one way is 
better 
 then another? Seems a waste to use 2 boards when 1 will do. Just 
 curious what others thoughts are regarding this. 
 Thanks Steve










 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: NEW - ICS Basic repeater controller partial Kits

2006-03-27 Thread wn1b8
I've used them in two link radios and as a back up repeater 
controller. They are great little controllers.

Scott Madison, WN1B



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, na6df [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Cool! I am using one of these as a test controller while I build 
 repeaters. Great stuff, can't beat it for the price.
 
 na6df
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, brian_martens_ics 
 brianm@ wrote:
 
  Hi All
  
  FYI
  
  I am happy to announce that the Basic repeater controller is now
  avaiable in a partial kit form.  It will include the Basic PCB, a
  programmed microcontroller, a DTMF decoding chip, a 0 ohm 
resistor 
 and
  a copy of the manual on CD.  The Basic manual now includes a 
 detailed
  parts list (see the website) to help with assembly.  The new 
Basic
  repeater controller kit sells for $24.95.
  
  Thanks and 73
  Brian
  ka9pmm
  ICS
  www.ics-ctrl.com
 









 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread wn1b8
I think you have to look at it as a discount for the little guy, or 
better yet, a subsidization paid by the larger dealers. The premise 
being that the more tables you buy, the bigger dealer you are and 
the more you can afford to pay. That way, they keep the price lower 
for the individuals who only buy a table or two. You have to agree 
that when it comes to Dayton, or hamfests in general, the lines are 
blurred between hams wanting to sell their surplus and dealers 
making substantial money. This form of progressive pricing is used, 
I believe, in most commercial expo environments.

Scott Madison, WN1B

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I know this is off-topic but I don't know where to ask this 
question.  I
 have sent a email to the Hamfest folks by the way, who knows if 
they will
 respond.
 
 Has anyone looked at the space price listed on their website?  It 
is a
 graduated price scheme, the more spaces you buy the more it costs 
you!  The
 price for 3 spaces is almost twice what 2 spaces costs!
 
 Why do they do that?  They seem to me to be the highest priced 
Hamfest,
 anyway this price scheme is just strange!  Who is getting rich 
there?
 Somebody must be!
 
 Paul










 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quick CW ID'er

2006-03-20 Thread wn1b8
If cheap is what you are looking for, check out 
http://home.att.net/~jacksonharbor/10mintim.htm They have a $10 kit 
that should work.

Scott, WN1B

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 Has anyone came up with a cheap easy CW ID'er for a GR 500 repeater?
 I was hoping I could find something that would say plug into the mic 
 socket that would ID every 10 minutes.
 Bill WA9BA










 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tone Decoding Software f

2006-03-06 Thread wn1b8
I'd be very interested in hearing from someone who has used the 
standard version of this, particularly the audio spectrum analyzer. I 
have been using the limited version of Oscillometer, but a 15 second 
run time doesn't cut it and I can't afford the $400 plus price tag.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B


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 Hi;
 Thought to pass this info just downloaded a copy try out at this site
 
 http://www.comtekk.us/tone-generator.htm
 
 the Free Version available to hams  discounted price
 
 Mark H. AB8RU
 
 -- 
 MZ










 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Midland Repeater

2006-02-05 Thread wn1b8
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ted Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hello Group,
 A friend was given a UHF Midland Syn-Tech ll 450-470 70-5300B 
repeater.
 The Pa is 71-5400 120 watt.
 The question of the day is will it program to Tx at 444.500 and Rx 
at 449.500. Anyone done it?
 Ted


Ted,

I'm not certain about retuning the radio but the PA will likely need 
some component changes to operate on your frequency. I have, at 
least, the manual for the PA at home. I'm not sure if I have the 
manual for the repeater. I won't be home for a few weeks but will be 
happy to copy the relevant pages of what I have once I return.

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: LDG-8 voter

2006-02-03 Thread wn1b8
I'm no expert on the LDG voter's operation. I've installed one and 
still do not think, after much work, that its voting all that well. 
That aside, I suspect that using the COR, as recommended, helps 
facilitate the voter's operation. If all the links are constantly 
held active, the voter will have sample more audio sources before 
making its decision. Utilizing COR eliminates the inactive links and 
narrows the decision to only active links.

As a suggestion, you can install PL boards on each of the feeds and 
use their decode detect to signal the voter.

As for the easy front panel setup display, they could have made it 
even better had they put the audio level and noise calibration pots 
somewhere where they're accessable without having to remove and open 
the unit's cover. Every time we upgrade a link, add a link, or put a 
back-up unit into service, we have to go through far too much 
hogwash to reset the link's operating parameters.

Scott Madison, WN1B

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 You could keep the cor active and provide constant 
 audio to the voter, knowing the voter will always 
 be working.  You could even mix the constant audio 
 sources with cor/audio provided inputs. 
 
 You would have to figure a means to obtain a desired 
 cos/cor function you might use for your repeater 
 controller (or equiv) tx ptt/cor in-function. 
 
 The nice thing about the ldg voter is the easy front 
 panel setup and the display. 
 
 cheers,
 skipp 
 
  Erik Finskas lakki@ wrote:
 
  Hello group.
  
  I'm looking at a LDG RVS-8 voter, and I'm curious about the COR 
inputs. 
  In the current linking system there is no COR signal provided, 
just 
  unsquelched audio. Does the RVS require the COR signal to be 
connected, 
  or would it work so that all COR inputs are tied high, so it 
would look 
  like there are 8 receivers on all the time, between which the 
voter
 selects?
  
  The output of the voter would be fed to the repeater, which has 
a 
  squelch circuitry to detect COR state and a PL decoder.
  
  ..
  Erik OH2LAK
 









 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Power transistors

2006-02-02 Thread wn1b8
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know what the interchange is for M9995 power transistors used 
in Micor   uhf PAs like the TLE1713?
 Thanks...
 lance N2HBA


RF Parts www.rfparts.com has what they call a suitable replacement in 
stock, though they don't indicate what that replacement is.

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Board level

2006-01-28 Thread wn1b8
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just picked up a little problem, my PL boards are dropping out 
 sometimes when I have a valid PL.
 
 Can anyone tell me offhand what the PL signal voltage should be at 
the 
 input to the boards? (TS-32 in this case)  I have about 0.8Vpp, 
which I 
 would have thought was enough.


ComSpec's web site does not specify a level but the troubleshooting 
section in the instruction sheet for the TS-32 implies a 100 mV 
signal. Here is the link: http://www.com-spec.com/insheet/ts107.pdf

Check the Decoder Input section on page 3 as well as the 
troubleshooting section on page 6.

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Vanity call resumes

2005-12-20 Thread wn1b8

Go to www.vanityhq.com. All the info you need is there.

Scott Madison, WN1B


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Maire-Radios maire-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how do you get a vanity call sign?  could you please give me a 
little info?
 
 thanks
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Vanity call resumes
 
 
  They discontinued after the hurricane problems along the Gulf 
coast - 
  mainly
  because many hams in that area couldn't renew licenses and/or 
apply for
  vanity call signs for a while.
 
  Mark - N9WYS
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim B.
  Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:18 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vanity call resumes
 
  Coy Hilton wrote:
 
  FCC processing of Vanity Calls scheduled to resume January 4 
2006.
  73
  AC0Y
 
  didn't know they stopped. can't imagine why they would either...
  (not that it matters to me anyway)
  -- 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Source for RF enclos

2005-12-01 Thread wn1b8
Jim,

Check out www.tubesandmore.com. Click on enclosures. They have 
steel, aluminum, and cast aluminum. 

Scott, WN1B


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 I have a Hamtronics LNP VHF Preselector  board.  I would like to 
install it 
 in a RF tight box.  Checked with Hamtronics and they have no such 
item and 
 no advise as to where to find one.  I want to install the board in 
a metal 
 box and have the antenna leads come out to two female N 
connectors, and a 12 
 vdc through a feed-thru connector for power.  Their is no room to 
install it 
 within the receiver.
 
 Thanks,
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voter Radios

2005-08-03 Thread wn1b8
Marty,

The Phoenix and RVS-8 should work well for you. I have been rebuilding 
a system here in the Detroit area and have used the RVS-8 and Motorola 
GM-300 and M120s. I have been trying to find the time to take pictures 
and do a write-up to be posted on the web site, but that is still a 
few weeks from completion. I do have pics of the first one that I did 
and would be happy to share it with you if you desire. It's not as 
pretty as the current one as I used a used cabinet that was a bit 
smaller.

In a nutshell, I have used the Motos modified for a couple watts 
output, flat audio passband (down to about 50 Hz.) and controlled with 
an ICS Basic controller. This gives remote shut-down and ID 
capability, as well as an adjustable hang timer. I package them in a 4 
RU cabinet, add fans, power supply, fuse panel, and receive diplexer.

The great thing about this arrangement is that you have complete 
versatility. If you need to change frequency, just reprogram. 

The GM300 and M120 radios have a pretty broad audio passband, so some 
minor audio shaping was used at the RVS-8 to roll it off above 5KHz. 
This way the noise was low enough to satisfy the RVS-8. I don't know 
if you'll experience the same signature with the Phoenix. I also don't 
know how difficult it will be to reduce the Phoenix power to one or 
two watts. I have some here but never played with them.

One other note: Most of the Motos have low going COR with no bias 
capability. The phoenix may be the same way. No big deal, you will 
just have to supply 5 - 10 V bias to the COR line. I did mine inside 
the voter and labeled the outside accordingly.

Good luck.

Scott Madison, WN1B


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings
 
  What are the most popular and most dependable radios to use on 
a 
 voting system?  I know some guys that use GE Phoenix SX radios for 
 linking.  Would they be good for receiving on VHF and then linking 
 back to the main site to the voter on UHF?  Also, is the RVS-8 from 
 LDG a good voter to go with?
 
 73s de W4MLN






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voter Radios

2005-08-03 Thread wn1b8
 Hasn't anyone besides me noted that the rate at which
 it votes changes based on which menu is currently
 displayed on the LCD?  I suspect that if someone were
 to reverse engineer the internal software that they would
 find a LOT to be desired
 
 Mike WA6ILQ

Mike,

I haven't noticed this but I haven't been looking. Can you elaborate a 
bit? Which menu options are you seeing more activity, etc. I'm headed 
to the site on Friday and I'd love to see if I encounter the same 
activity.

Scott Madison, WN1B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD1694E conversion?

2005-07-30 Thread wn1b8
Thanks, Larry. That was the information I was looking for.

73,

Scott

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PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Scott - I've rebuilt four or five of them over the years. You 
absolutely
 need the Motorola MICOR Base Station/Repeater service manual, it 
gives the
 parts values for the TLD1692 amp (and the 1693 and 1694 amps). It 
has
 detailed parts lists, schematics, and pictorials of the circuit 
boards. It
 really is a complete book on how to move a VHF MICOR to the ham 
band or
 change ranges to any frequency from 136-174 MHz.
 
 You need to change the indicated parts to be those that are used 
in the
 TLD1692 amp. There are more than 50 caps, transformers, resistors, 
both
 trimmer caps, etc. in the 150.8-174 MHz ranges that have to be 
removed and
 be replaced with the 136-150 MHz range parts.  You almost strip 
the circuit
 board completely bare and rebuild it with the new parts! 
 
 I picked up one more set of parts while at Motorola in Schaumburg, 
IL one
 time, so I could rebuild one more amp - it was about $150 worth of 
parts.
 Some of the special transformers were around $25 each. But since 
then, I've
 found several of the factory TLD1692 PA decks that are already in 
the
 136-150 MHz range, so I never got around to rebuilding that last 
high-split
 TLD1694 PA deck, and I sold it to someone who needed it for their 
business
 on 162 MHz.
 
 Have fun,
 Larry K7LJ
 
 
 
 Original Message:
 -
 From: wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:05:05 -
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TLD1694E conversion?
 
 
 Can anyone tell me what is entailed in converting a Motorola 
TLD1694E 
 PA to 2 meter ham band? Detailed instructions would be great but 
just 
 a quick overview would be helpful. I have searched the archives 
and 
 looked on the web site but came up dry.
 
 Thanks,
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: TLD1694E conversion?

2005-07-30 Thread wn1b8
Thanks, Neil. I appreciate your and Larry's info.

73,
Scott

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   #1, a lot of work - especially if you unsoldering many parts: 
 
   34 capacitors, 9 coils, 6 resistors and four transformers. 
 
   The TLD1694E is the split 4 model (162-174 MHz) 
 
   You want to move it to the split 2 model (132-150.8 MHz) 
 
   Neil - WA6KLA
 
 wn1b8 wrote:
  
  Can anyone tell me what is entailed in converting a Motorola 
  TLD1694E PA to 2 meter ham band? Detailed instructions would 
  be great but just a quick overview would be helpful. I have 
  searched the archives and looked on the web site but came up 
  dry.
  
  Thanks,
  
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[Repeater-Builder] TLD1694E conversion?

2005-07-29 Thread wn1b8
Can anyone tell me what is entailed in converting a Motorola TLD1694E 
PA to 2 meter ham band? Detailed instructions would be great but just 
a quick overview would be helpful. I have searched the archives and 
looked on the web site but came up dry.

Thanks,

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Phoenix Radios as Links

2005-07-26 Thread wn1b8
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Doug Blizzard 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone out there using the GE Phoenix Mobiles in a linking system? 
Im 
 having a problem with link drop outs and have narrowed it down to 
the 
 link radio. I would like to hear from someone that has succesfully 
 built a linking system using these radios.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Doug
 N4HAJ

Doug,

Can you be a bit more specific regarding the drop-outs? Are these 
momentary (1 or 2 second) drop-outs or are they longer in duration? 
Are you using CTCSS or just COR. Finally, when you experience a drop-
out, are you seeing a loss of TX or just audio through your system.

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[Repeater-Builder] Midland VHF PA

2005-07-14 Thread wn1b8
Model 71-3400B. Anyone know about these? Please drop me a note so I 
can ask some question.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Iota Power Supplies

2005-06-22 Thread wn1b8
I am considering purchasing an Iota high current supply to power the 
PA in our repeater. Does anyone have any long term experience with 
these supplies? I don't know much about Iota, just what I've read in 
their ads and two posts that I found here in the archives. Are they 
all their manufacturers claim?

Scott Madison, WN1B 






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola welded rod yagis

2005-03-29 Thread wn1b8


Skipp,

I would be very interested in these dimensions when you get them.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 Motorhead (Motorola), Cellwave and now RFS make a 
 very strong end-mounted yagi for 450-470 MHz 
 operation. 
 
 It's all welded Al Rod on a thick ~1 tube. 
 
 I picked up what measures out to be a 418-420 MHz 
 range version of this same type/style antenna. Anyone 
 have the model number and the specs? ... or a 
 location there-of?  
 
 Once I ID the yagi, I'll make my drawings available 
 to all (as done with the DB-408 antennas from before) 
 to Mike for posting to the RB Web Page. 
 
 Thanks for your replies... 
 
 skipp 
 
 skipp025 at yahoo.com







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola welded rod yagis

2005-03-29 Thread wn1b8


Skipp,

I would be very interested in these dimensions when you get them.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 Motorhead (Motorola), Cellwave and now RFS make a 
 very strong end-mounted yagi for 450-470 MHz 
 operation. 
 
 It's all welded Al Rod on a thick ~1 tube. 
 
 I picked up what measures out to be a 418-420 MHz 
 range version of this same type/style antenna. Anyone 
 have the model number and the specs? ... or a 
 location there-of?  
 
 Once I ID the yagi, I'll make my drawings available 
 to all (as done with the DB-408 antennas from before) 
 to Mike for posting to the RB Web Page. 
 
 Thanks for your replies... 
 
 skipp 
 
 skipp025 at yahoo.com







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Retuning of Sinclair I2113A Isolator

2005-03-09 Thread wn1b8


Skip,

I sent you an e-mail regarding a swap but got no reply. I sent it to 
your yahoo account. Drop me a note if you are still looking for a 
swap.

Thanks,

Scott


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 
 I have a number of DB and other name brand 
 circulators already in the ham band, I would 
 consider trading toward circulators in the 
 higher portion of the vhf band. Email me off 
 the list if you're interested. I test and 
 plot each one I have available. 
 
 (I have a number of high power circulators 
 I'll sell or trade) 
 
 skipp025 at yahoo.com 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have some DB Products (UHF) and M/A (some of both VHF and UHF)
  circulators that I'd like to have redone for the UHF ham band and
 2-Meters.
  Any ideas who might rework those brands? Or will Sinclair rework 
other
  manufacturers' units besides their own?
  
  LJ
  
  
  
  Original Message:
  -
  From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 21:10:49 EST
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning of Sinclair I2113A 
Isolator
  
  
  I agree with Eric WB6FLY to return unit to Sincair for factory
 adjustment  
  and modification. My RFS/Celwave Model PCC-150B was on 158.1 Mhz 
and
 I had
  it  
  factory retuned to 147 band. Cost of factory mod was well worth 
the $125
  plus  
  shipping.  They retuned, replaced a 6T coil, adjusted coil 
spacing,
 reglued
  
  some poles, modified filter,  reset output tap .100 inch. and
 included some
  
  nice plots. Rolling  your own on these items isn't the way to 
go. 
 Too much 
  black magic.  Crack a magnet or something as its all over. 
  Gary  K2UQ
   
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Retuning of Sinclair I2113A Isolator

2005-03-06 Thread wn1b8


Greetings,

I have a Sinclair model I2113A isolator. The range on this is 
supposed to be roughly 130 to 170 MHz. It currently sits at 167.1 
MHz. I want to put it on 148.8. I suspect that this requires 
retuning of the large magnets. I have removed to side stickers to 
reveal the outside of the magnet holders, but they appear to be 
locked with something like Lok-Tite. Has anyone experience in 
retuning these? How do I go about freeing the covers? Will a heat 
gun be adequate without damaging the inside components?

Kevin's site has the instructions for field tuning these but that 
only covers the fine tuning within a 2-4 MHz. range. I need info on 
the course tuning.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] FS: Micor Compa-Station Repeater

2005-02-27 Thread wn1b8


I have for sale a Micor Compa-Station Non-Unified repeater (less 
cabinet) that includes the following items:

TLD1683C Transmitter (110W Intermittent Duty)
TRD1803BB Receiver currently on 155.28 MHz.
TRD1803BB Receiver currently on 155.34 MHz.
TPN1110B Power Supply
TLN4959A Chassis
TLN4670BPR Line Driver Card
TLN4635CPR Station Control Card
TLN4961A0490P Multiple Console Card
TLN4960A1291H DC Transfer Card
TLN1467A099B4 Digital Decoder Card
TLN5745A1194N Multi PL Decoder Card

Also have the ribbon cable that interconnects the receivers, two BNC 
to phono RF cables, and manual. All are quite clean and appear to be 
in great shape. I have not assembled and tested this repeater but 
believe it to be in operational condition. I'd like $75.00 plus 
shipping or will swap for something in the Radius line (M10, M100, 
M120, GM300) in the 438 – 450 MHz. range. 

You can e-mail me direct at WN1B8 at yahoo dot com, or WN1B at key 
eight you oh dot com.

Thanks,
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Micor Compa-Station Repeater

2005-02-27 Thread wn1b8


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have for sale a Micor Compa-Station Non-Unified repeater (less 
 cabinet) that includes the following items:
 
 TLD1683C Transmitter (110W Intermittent Duty)
 TRD1803BB Receiver currently on 155.28 MHz.
 TRD1803BB Receiver currently on 155.34 MHz.
 TPN1110B Power Supply
 TLN4959A Chassis
 TLN4670BPR Line Driver Card
 TLN4635CPR Station Control Card
 TLN4961A0490P Multiple Console Card
 TLN4960A1291H DC Transfer Card
 TLN1467A099B4 Digital Decoder Card
 TLN5745A1194N Multi PL Decoder Card
 
 Also have the ribbon cable that interconnects the receivers, two 
BNC 
 to phono RF cables, and manual. All are quite clean and appear to 
be 
 in great shape. I have not assembled and tested this repeater but 
 believe it to be in operational condition. I'd like $75.00 plus 
 shipping or will swap for something in the Radius line (M10, M100, 
 M120, GM300) in the 438 – 450 MHz. range. 
 
 You can e-mail me direct at WN1B8 at yahoo dot com, or WN1B at key 
 eight you oh dot com.
 
 Thanks,
 Scott Madison

Repeater has been sold.

Thanks,

Scott







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Micor Compa Exciter/PA

2005-02-04 Thread wn1b8


I recently picked up a Micor Compa-Station exciter/PA. I know its 
for 132-174 MHz. and I believe it to be a 100 watt PA deck, but I 
can't seem to find what the duty cycle is. The PA board part number 
is TLD5953A1093R. It has the 14 1/2 long Micor fins across the top 
of the module. The module, with the fins, is 6 high.

I know this isn't the 100% duty cycle configuration, but can it be 
run at 100% if it has constant forced air cooling across the fins? 
Also, the board appears to be the same for the 100 watt 100% 
configuration. Is it possible to simply replant this board in the 
larger chassis/heat sink? Assuming for a moment that I could find a 
dead one.

Any help and/or advice will be greatly appreciated.

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: A Poor Man's Multicoupler?

2005-01-31 Thread wn1b8


This should work OK as long as you keep a few things in mind. First, 
the quality of drop splitters ranges from ultra cheap garbage to 
good. If you want very good or excellent, find a used 550 MHz, 750 
MHz, or 862 MHz Scientific Atlanta headend combiner. But depending 
on how many remote sites you have, these may introduce more loss 
than you want.

The isolation on a god drop splitter will be about 24 dB.  That is, 
if you terminate all ports either with connections to receivers or 
with resistor terminators.

Off the top of my head, I'd be a bit cautious of the potential for 
saturation of the splitter cores from strong VHF field of the 
repeater transmitter. Cheap splitters, or splitters made a few years 
ago weren't designed for high levels of RF. Their cores can saturate 
easily. If you can notch or passband the UHF feed, I'd do it. Using 
a preamp in line will provide the passbanding that you need, also.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So, I was thinking (often a dangerous proposition)...
 
 If I want to run several UHF link receivers off a single antenna, 
 what's to stop my using a conventional TV splitter?  If I add a 
 preamp to compensate for the loss introduced by the splitter and 
the 
 75/50 Ohm mismatch, is there any particular reason why this scheme 
 won't work?  Will there be enough isolation to prevent possible 
rcvr 
 interaction?
 
 Whadya think?
 
 Bob
 K5IQ
 WPXA535







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Source for MRF654

2005-01-28 Thread wn1b8


Does anyone have a good source for MRF654 transistors? RF Parts 
wants over $25 each. That just seems a bit steep to me.

Thanks,

Scott Madison







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Circulator vs. Isolator

2005-01-22 Thread wn1b8


Eric, Jim, and others,

Thanks for the replies. Your explanations were as I expected but I 
wanted to be certain. I am very familliar with circulators as we use 
them quite often in microwave configurations. When I became aware of 
isolators, I attempted to research them and concluded that there was 
little difference in the aforementioned application. I thought maybe 
I was missing something, but I guess not.

Thanks again for all your help.

73,
Scott Madison, WN1B




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Scott,
 
 A ferrite circulator is simply a three-terminal device that is 
designed
 to steer RF currents so that they move in one direction around a
 circular path between ports that are spaced 120 degrees apart.  
What
 comes in at one port will leave at the next port if the terminating
 impedance is 50 ohms.  Your assumption of its operation is exactly
 correct.
 
 An isolator is a circulator that includes a 50 ohm load on the 
third
 port.  Some manufacturers use the terms interchangeably, but 
generally
 the term circulator describes the ferrite, garnet, and magnetic 
guts
 that are inside the box.
 
 A single isolator generally provides about 35 dB of isolation to 
protect
 a PA from incoming RF that can cause intermodulation.  A dual 
isolator
 is just two single circulators in series, with two external dummy 
loads,
 that can provide about 70 dB of isolation.
 
 Since a circulator is a non-linear device, it will always generate 
a
 strong second harmonic.  For this reason, any ferrite
 circulator/isolator must always be followed by a notch filter, a
 low-pass filter, or a bandpass cavity to eliminate or greatly 
reduce the
 second harmonic.
 
 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 
 wn1b8 wrote:
  
  List members,
  
  Is there any reason that a circulator could not be used as an 
isolator?  Assuming appropriate power handling capabilities, I would 
think the former would work just fine.  Amp output into port 1, 
Bp/antenna on port 2, dummy load on port 3, and any reflected power 
from the Bp/antenna should be absorbed by the dummy load.  Am I 
missing anything here?







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Circulator vs. Isolator

2005-01-21 Thread wn1b8


List members,

Is there any reason that a circulator could not be used as an 
isolator? Assuming appropriate power handling capabilities, I would 
think the former would work just fine. Amp output into port 1, 
Bp/antenna on port 2, dummy load on port 3, and any reflected power 
from the Bp/antenna should be absorbed by the dummy load.  Am I 
missing anything here?

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] GM300 TX Calibration

2005-01-10 Thread wn1b8


Greetings,

Is there anyone on the list that has an understanding of the soft 
calibration procedures for the M120/GM300 radios that would be 
willing to help me? I'd prefer off list to as to not take up list 
bandwidth.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] SINAD measurements

2005-01-04 Thread wn1b8


I am curious to know what everyone on the list uses to perform SINAD 
measurements? Anyone doing it without a service monitor? If so, what 
do you use for a 1KHz. notch? Can anyone recommend a design to 
construct a deep notch? I can only get about 20 dB through my Datong 
filter.

Thanks,

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e

2004-11-19 Thread wn1b8



For the benefit of those new to the list, where is Cook Tower? Any 
chance they have a web site?

Scott Madison, WN1B/8



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Glad I could be of help Ralph,
 Please let us know how you make out.
 I had a antenna messed up by a storm and they had a replacement in 
stock and
 got it to me earlier in the week the same day.
 Very best of 73,
 Russ, W3CH
 Trustee Metro-Comm, INC,
 W3PS/RPT.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e
 
 
 
 
  --- russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   I buy all my repeater antennas from Cook Towers.
   They have them in stock in
   the Ham bands and discount to us Hams.
   Good luck and 73,
   Russ, W3CH
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:26 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where to buy DB 224e
  
  
   
I have seen this discussed before but looked in
   the
past messages and could not find it.
   
Where are some places to buy the DB224 exposed 4
   bay
dipole antenna that will work in the 140 to 150
   range
for a ham repeater ?
  
 
  Thanks Russ.  That is the name I was looking for but
  just could not remember it or find it in the past
  messages.
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Communication Speciakist ss-32 tone bord Info Needed

2004-11-18 Thread wn1b8


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can anyone tell me about this tone board and would it be a good 
 choice to use on an repeater, the receiver that it will be hooked 
to 
 is a GO Mastr ER41 and how hard would it be to hook up?  Or would 
it 
 get hooked to the RLC2 controller on the cos line?
 
 Mathew
 w9mwq

Mat,

Use the CommSpec TS64.  It has both encode and decode functionality. 
You can also look at Norcomm NC106. 

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[Repeater-Builder] Solid State VHF PAs

2004-11-02 Thread wn1b8


Greetings,

As a result of our recent power supply failure we are accessing our 
options.  

Thanks to all of you who have replied to my search for a TPN1041B 
power transformer. A couple of the responses suggested contacting 
Peter Dahl for a quote on repairing or replacing the failed 
transformer.  I did do that and would like to report that the 
response I received (from none other than Peter, himself) was 
extremely prompt and helful. He answered all of my questions 
regardless of their simplicity or relevance.

Anyway, one of the options we would like to explore is conversion to 
a solid state PA deck.  So, I would like to tap the collective 
wisdom of the list and hear what brands and models people like, and 
conversely, which to avoid. This is a 2 meter repeater and its PA 
needs to be in the 200 watt range with 10 to 15 watts drive.

Thanks, and 73.

Scott Madison, WN1B/8







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Solid State VHF PAs

2004-11-02 Thread wn1b8


Sorry, that should be assessing, not accessing. Is there a way to 
edit messages after they've been posted?

Scott Madison, WN1B/8


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As a result of our recent power supply failure we are accessing 
our 
 options.  
 
 Thanks to all of you who have replied to my search for a TPN1041B 
 power transformer. A couple of the responses suggested contacting 
 Peter Dahl for a quote on repairing or replacing the failed 
 transformer.  I did do that and would like to report that the 
 response I received (from none other than Peter, himself) was 
 extremely prompt and helful. He answered all of my questions 
 regardless of their simplicity or relevance.
 
 Anyway, one of the options we would like to explore is conversion 
to 
 a solid state PA deck.  So, I would like to tap the collective 
 wisdom of the list and hear what brands and models people like, 
and 
 conversely, which to avoid. This is a 2 meter repeater and its PA 
 needs to be in the 200 watt range with 10 to 15 watts drive.
 
 Thanks, and 73.
 
 Scott Madison, WN1B/8







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Solid State VHF PAs

2004-11-02 Thread wn1b8


My Error.  It is not 200 watts but rather 100 watts. 

Scott


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
   I can only wonder why the need for what seems to me is excessive 
  power? 
 
   Thank you, 
 
   Neil - WA6KLA 
 
 wn1b8 wrote:
  
  Greetings,
  
  As a result of our recent power supply failure we are accessing 
our
  options.
  
  Thanks to all of you who have replied to my search for a TPN1041B
  power transformer. A couple of the responses suggested contacting
  Peter Dahl for a quote on repairing or replacing the failed
  transformer.  I did do that and would like to report that the
  response I received (from none other than Peter, himself) was
  extremely prompt and helful. He answered all of my questions
  regardless of their simplicity or relevance.
  
  Anyway, one of the options we would like to explore is 
conversion to
  a solid state PA deck.  So, I would like to tap the collective
  wisdom of the list and hear what brands and models people like, 
and
  conversely, which to avoid. This is a 2 meter repeater and its PA
  needs to be in the 200 watt range with 10 to 15 watts drive.
  
  Thanks, and 73.
  
  Scott Madison, WN1B/8
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Motorola TPN1041B

2004-10-27 Thread wn1b8


Thanks Mike and Neil.  I have a feeling that shipping will be a 
killer on this one.  This is one heavy transformer.  I'll check it 
out, though.  That may be the best solution.

Scott


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
   Peter Dahl Company  http://www.pwdahl.com 
 
   Neil 
 
 Mike WA6ILQ wrote:
  
  At 08:16 AM 10/26/04, you wrote:
  
  We had a major transformer failure this last week and had to 
put the
  spare power supply in.  As a result, we're looking for a good
  Motorola TPN1041B power supply or a good 25D8274H01 transformer.
  These are used in the 200, 250, and 300 watt Metropolitan tube 
PAs.
  If anyone has one for sale that is within reasonable driving
  distance of Detroit, please drop me an e-mail.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott Madison, WN1B
  
  Years ago a tech for a local paging operation commented that
  having Peter Dahl Company rebuild the transformers was
  cheaper than getting replacemnts.  The economics may have
  changed since then, but it might be worth:
  (a) pricing out the shipping, and
  (b) dropping Dahl an email.
  
  de Mike WA6ILQ, who still wishes that he had a picture
  of the quick fix on the Collins  TX at KALI (10kw AM)
  The transformer HV winding had shorted to the case.
  The fix until Collins could get a new one to them was
  to stand the transformer on two 4x4s wrapped in a
  plastic tarp, and a LOT of warning signs.
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Need Motorola TPN1041B

2004-10-26 Thread wn1b8


We had a major transformer failure this last week and had to put the 
spare power supply in.  As a result, we're looking for a good 
Motorola TPN1041B power supply or a good 25D8274H01 transformer.  
These are used in the 200, 250, and 300 watt Metropolitan tube PAs. 
If anyone has one for sale that is within reasonable driving 
distance of Detroit, please drop me an e-mail.

Thanks,

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[SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius/GM300 - Email found in subject

2004-10-07 Thread wn1b8


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Scott,
  After you pulled and bypassed the final, what was the lowest 
power you
 could get out of it while still being stable? I'm thinking about 
doing
 the same to a VHF maxtrac to use as an exciter for a cont duty PA, 
but
 it only needs about 400mw to drive it to full output. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 K2KMB 
 

Hi Kevin,

That is a very good question.  I didn't try adjusting the PO as it 
fell right about where I wanted it.  I received the service manual 
and schematic for it yesterday and had just a few minutes to look it 
over last night.  It would appear that the 1-10 watt version is 
basically what I have made, the 45 watt PA up through the driver, 
which is now the final. Same transistor but a few capacitor value 
changes. If this is the case, Motorola rates this as a 1 to 10 watt 
radio.  I would think you should be able to lower it to 1 watt. You 
may have to go back a stage to get your 500 mW.

I seem to recall someone else's post that indicated thay had used 
the input to the PA module which gave them 700 mW.  You might want 
to look for this post.

73,

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius/GM300

2004-10-06 Thread wn1b8


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steaven Rogers, W4YI 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone here used a Radius or GM300 to make a repeater?  I have 
a 
 pair of Radius (M120) UHF mobiles wired up and working, but I 
would like 
 to add a third one to use as a link to a second repeater. Can 
anyone 
 give any input on how to go about hooking up the third radio to 
make it 
 work properly?.  This will be used for temporary installations 
only.  
 Aside from the heat issue are there any other pitfalls or concerns 
I 
 should look at for.  These will be run on LOW power when being 
used to 
 help with the heat.
 
 Thanks,
 Steaven, W4YI


Hi Steaven,

I have been playing around with the GM300s for a couple of weeks now 
with plans to use them as UHF link radios.  In my humble opinion, 
they are a nice little radio and should do a good job.  This, of 
course, will be proven or disproven in due time. Here are some of my 
observations:

The heat issue can be a problem.  Turning the power output down only 
adds to the heat problem.  Instead, I took Kevin's (and others')
advice and pulled and bypassed the final.  The radio does about 3.5 
watts this way.  The output is very clean (I looked -70 dB and 
didn't detect a thing) and stable.  I observed this into load with a 
1:1 SWR as well as a 2.5:1 SWR. Aside from the (still) moderate heat 
produced, there were no detectable problems during a 35 minute 
keydown period.  To overcome the heat issue, I simply added a 
computer processor fan to the back of the radio pair that triggers 
on from the receiver's COR (or tone squelch) and shuts off one to 
two minutes after the carrier or tone drops. (See Kevin's web site 
for the circuitry) 

My radios didn't display any significant drop in power until I tuned 
down around the low end of 433 MHz.

The 16 pin connector has descriminator output, mic input, and PTT 
available on it making interfacing quite easy.

The one drawback I have detected is the built in Tx delay. When 
added to the inherrent delay from an aftermarket tone decoder, which 
I am using on the VHF receiver married to this transmitter, the 
overall delay borders on the undesirable.  I have a GM300 service 
manual and schematic en route, but without it I haven't determined a 
work-around.  I suspect this delay is intentional and can be altered 
through minor component or circuitry changes.

I hope this helps.  Good luck.

Scott Madison, WN1B







 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola GM300

2004-09-21 Thread wn1b8

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 The GM300 is a repackaged and updated Maxtrac, and a GR-series
 is two of them in a repeater housing.   The Maxtrac / GM-series is
 designed as a mobile radio ,and I'd take all the normal precautions
 when running  a mobile in high-duty-cycle usage.  I believe that
 there is a large heatsink that is available as a replacement 
part
 
 They also made some 2w Maxtracs that will do continuous duty,
 and in link service with a beam antenna that may be enough (or
 tack on an external amplifier) - look for a D04MJA on eBay.
 The zero is used to mean under 3w or RX only.
 See www.repeater-builder.com  on the Moto page under
 Figuring out what you have
 
 Mike WA6ILQ
 


Thanks Mike.  Very usefull information.

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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola GM300

2004-09-20 Thread wn1b8
Greetings,

Does anyone have any experience using the Motorola GM300 radios as 
crossband link transceivers?  I have successfully reprogrammed the 
UHF transceiver for 434 MHz. use.  All appears to work well.  I 
understand that I can mate this to a VHF version (reprogrammed for 
our 2 meter input frequency) and the two will successfully 
crossband.  I realize I have to make up the cable to connect them.  
I'm looking for feedback from someone who has done this.  Pros? 
Cons?  Suggestions?  I see there is a squelch modification that is 
recommended which I will do.  Anyone have a scanned service manual?  
I have the schematic but would like a board shot so I can identify 
specific parts from the schematic.

Any recomendations will be welcome.

73,

Scott Madison, WN1B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola GM300

2004-09-20 Thread wn1b8
Sorry about posting an inquiry on a previously covered topic.  I had 
done a search on GM300 and come up dry.  Can't explain it, but it 
happened.  I have read all the posts from last months inquiries.  
There is a lot of good information there.  I'm still interested in 
anyone's comments, though.  You can e-mail them directly to me 
rather than take up bandwidth here.

73,

Scott Madison, WN1B


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wn1b8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 Does anyone have any experience using the Motorola GM300 radios as 
 crossband link transceivers?  I have successfully reprogrammed the 
 UHF transceiver for 434 MHz. use.  All appears to work well.  I 
 understand that I can mate this to a VHF version (reprogrammed for 
 our 2 meter input frequency) and the two will successfully 
 crossband.  I realize I have to make up the cable to connect 
them.  
 I'm looking for feedback from someone who has done this.  Pros? 
 Cons?  Suggestions?  I see there is a squelch modification that is 
 recommended which I will do.  Anyone have a scanned service 
manual?  
 I have the schematic but would like a board shot so I can identify 
 specific parts from the schematic.
 
 Any recomendations will be welcome.
 
 73,
 
 Scott Madison, WN1B





 
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