Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/1/2010 9:57 PM, George Henry wrote:
 I suppose I should clarify: I don't do D-STAR, either. Moral objection to
 their use of a proprietary codec.

You're going to be a while on that soap box.  CODECs are almost 
literally the only way to make any money in the audio streaming, video 
streaming, and related technology worlds these days... mixed with 
Patents, you won't see any high-quality free CODECs that can properly 
encode voice at 4800 bps any time soon.

DVSI has ALL of that market locked up until someone hires a pile of 
PhD's in math and goes after them.  And even then, they'd have to make a 
significant impact on bandwidth utilized or voice quality over either 
AMBE/AMBE2, or IMBE... to have a chance of dislodging the first player 
to market... the only player to be written into multiple standards (P25, 
D-STAR, even the TDMA-based things from Kenwood/Icom... all using DVSI 
chipsets.)

Brilliant of them really... heavily patent-encumbered CODEC, super-high 
price on using the CODEC in software, sell a $20 (in low-quantity, 
slightly cheaper in high-quanity) chipset, in a market as small as 2-way 
radio... they're making a bloody killing.  I'd love to know what the 
development costs of the CODECs were... to see just how lucrative their 
lock on the market(s) is.

But anyway... good luck finding a commercial product that doesn't use 
their chipset anytime soon.  The next CODEC chipset maker is going to be 
an also-ran forever, unless their mathematicians and algorithms are 
uber-brilliant.

Nate WY0X


[Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Kevin Custer
Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html

Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

Kevin Custer


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Captainlance
Hmm..But can it core an apple???
Happy April 1st..
Lance/N2HBA
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  Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html

  Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

  Kevin Custer


  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they 
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal 
  sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


Kevin Custer wrote:
 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
 
 Kevin Custer
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Milt
Order from your local Molotora dealer at 00:01 on April 1 only.  Orders will 
be filled by donkey cart.  If you receive your order within 1 year you will 
be required to pay additional fees.

Milt
N3LTQ
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From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor


 Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they
 available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal
  sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

 Scott

 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Road
 Boswell, PA 15531


 Kevin Custer wrote:
 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html

 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

 Kevin Custer


 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Jed Barton
dare i ask the price of one of these radios. 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

  

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal
sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

Kevin Custer wrote:
 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
 
 Kevin Custer
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Joe
Excellent radio and specs!  This should put GE, RCA, Aerotron, all all 
the other big names out of business.  For once the Motorola bean 
counters got their act together and supported this great product.

73, Joe, k1ike
 Kevin Custer wrote:

 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html

 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

 Kevin Custer


 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Tony Faiola
This was a typical U.S. Government specification.  Were there any  
bids??  Tony, K3WX



On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jed Barton wrote:

 dare i ask the price of one of these radios.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread James Cicirello
APRIL 1ST PRICE? If we could afford one we would be FOOL not to buy one.

JIM   KA2AJH

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote:



 Excellent radio and specs! This should put GE, RCA, Aerotron, all all
 the other big names out of business. For once the Motorola bean
 counters got their act together and supported this great product.

 73, Joe, k1ike

  Kevin Custer wrote:
 
  Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
  Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
 
  Kevin Custer
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread DCFluX
I pre-ordered one on March 32, hope its shipped soon.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread La Rue Communications
March 32??? :) As opposed to Smarch - that time in between March and April?


John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
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  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor



  I pre-ordered one on March 32, hope its shipped soon.


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread George Henry
I see it doesn't do D-STAR  :-)


George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413



From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; repea...@yahoogroups.com; 
repeat...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 6:48:57 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

  
Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
http://www.repeater -builder. com/molotora/ gontor/gontor. html

Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

Kevin Custer




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread AA8K73 GMail

It's Motorola, not Icom   :)


George Henry wrote:
  
 
 I see it doesn't do D-STAR  :-)
 
 George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh
Its Molotora, April Fool, not Motorola :-}

It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license.

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Repeater System: 
Rowlett Main: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Dallas: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Rowlett  II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett III: 147.390 + 85.4
KC5OZH-R EchoLink Node: 350616
K5FER-L EchoLink Node: 394575
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 808 ARO-Equipment 
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com
 
 
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
From: AA8K73 GMail aa8...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, April 01, 2010 11:43 am
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com


It's Motorola, not Icom :)


George Henry wrote:
 
 
 I see it doesn't do D-STAR :-)
 
 George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
 






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Mark
I like the fact that I can contact Flint with it (via ZOWIE).  You never
know when we'll need to reach out for someone with his talents again!

Also, I thought Molotora's direct line numbers were:  1-800-328-7448 or
1-800-382-5633... 

Mark - N9WYS

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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they 
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal 
  sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


Kevin Custer wrote:
 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
 
 Kevin Custer
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Chris Curtis
I prefer matt helm's approach to super spying.

Kb0wlf

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 buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
 Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:44 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
 
 I like the fact that I can contact Flint with it (via ZOWIE).  You
 never
 know when we'll need to reach out for someone with his talents again!
 
 Also, I thought Molotora's direct line numbers were:  1-800-328-7448 or
 1-800-382-5633...
 
 Mark - N9WYS
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
 Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:47 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor
 
 Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are
 they
 available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact
 internal
   sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?
 
 Scott
 
 Scott Zimmerman
 Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
 474 Barnett Road
 Boswell, PA 15531
 
 
 Kevin Custer wrote:
  Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
  Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
 
  Kevin Custer
 
 
  
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Jed Barton
what's the name of this radio guys 

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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

  

I like the fact that I can contact Flint with it (via ZOWIE). You never know
when we'll need to reach out for someone with his talents again!

Also, I thought Molotora's direct line numbers were: 1-800-328-7448 or
1-800-382-5633... 

Mark - N9WYS

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

Nice. I like it. Interesting radio. I need to get one of those. Are they
available from *any* Motorola dealer, or do you need to contact internal
sales directly at 1-800-422-4210 and ask for it specifically?

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

Kevin Custer wrote:
 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!
 
 Kevin Custer
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Joe
You'll be in line after me.  I was even smarter and ordered mine 
February 29th.

Joe

On 4/1/2010 11:45 AM, DCFluX wrote:


 I pre-ordered one on March 32, hope its shipped soon.


 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Joe
We got a nibble, who wants to set the hook?

On 4/1/2010 2:57 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
 what's the name of this radio guys





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread John J. Riddell
I had to laugh when it said you need a model 15 TTY to program it...
I used to fix those things many years ago !

Klunk - klunk - klunk.   :-))

73 John VE3AMZ



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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:48 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor


 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB.
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html

 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

 Kevin Custer


 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread George Henry
I suppose I should clarify:  I don't do D-STAR, either.  Moral objection to 
their use of a proprietary codec.

And the only Icom I own is my 910H satellite rig...


George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor



 It's Motorola, not Icom   :)


 George Henry wrote:


 I see it doesn't do D-STAR  :-)

 George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-01 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Kevin Custer wrote:
 Bob Meister has written a nice article on the Molotora Gontor for RB. 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/gontor.html
 
 Thanks go out to Bob for his efforts!

If it front-panel programmable (FPP)?

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