[Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?

2009-08-08 Thread ka1jfy
Something to keep in mind, is that the GP68 [and their chinese clones] are not 
legal to use on anything other than ham in the US.

And, because it's also illegal to import them, they may be seized by Customs, 
with no recourse.

WalterH


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Yeager kd0...@... wrote:

 I have a few Motorola GP68 FPP Radios I got from China/Ebay.  They're great
 little radios and around 70$ shipped each.  Have both UHF and VHF models.
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-GP68-UHF-430-470MHz-2-Way-Radio-Accessories_W0QQitemZ170368673788QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ2_Way_Radios_FRS?hash=item27aac3a7fc_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
 
 The battery they come with isn't very good and its NiCd..  They won't last
 half a day with constant talking,   But you can get Nickle-metal extended
 batts off ebay for cheap.
 
 -Scott
 SNIP



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?

2009-08-08 Thread Cort Buffington
Here's a question I've not been sure about: If a radio isn't Part 15  
registered, is it even legal for ham use? If we build our own or  
heavily modify, that's one thing, but I think if it's a commercial  
product, it still has to meet FCC Part 15 doesn't it?


On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:18 AM, ka1jfy wrote:

Something to keep in mind, is that the GP68 [and their chinese  
clones] are not legal to use on anything other than ham in the US.


And, because it's also illegal to import them, they may be seized by  
Customs, with no recourse.


WalterH

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Yeager kd0...@...  
wrote:


 I have a few Motorola GP68 FPP Radios I got from China/Ebay.  
They're great
 little radios and around 70$ shipped each. Have both UHF and VHF  
models.


 
http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-GP68-UHF-430-470MHz-2-Way-Radio-Accessories_W0QQitemZ170368673788QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ2_Way_Radios_FRS?hash=item27aac3a7fc_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 The battery they come with isn't very good and its NiCd.. They  
won't last
 half a day with constant talking, But you can get Nickle-metal  
extended

 batts off ebay for cheap.

 -Scott
 SNIP







Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?

2009-08-08 Thread Paul Plack
Walter, 

Part 15 covers unlicensed operation. As a ham, you're licensed under the terms 
of Part 97, which has specific rules for emissions types and purity. (97.305 
and 97.307 in particular.)

If you buy a commercial product not already certified to comply, and were ever 
accused of, say, spurious tranmitter radiation, you would need to be able to 
demonstrate to the FCC the means you used to determine its compliance, just as 
with homebrew gear.

The test equipment needed is not in most hamshacks these days. But it could be 
done.

A really confusing development in recent years is ham equipment which has come 
with Part 15 stickers on it. I have to assume that the stickers were a 
well-meaning attempt by manufacturers to cover their butts regarding the 
microprocessors used in running modern gear, and not the 10 mW cloning signals, 
since Part 15 operation is not authorized in the ham bands, regardless how low 
the power.

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  - Original Message - 
  From: Cort Buffington 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS HT recommendation?



  Here's a question I've not been sure about: If a radio isn't Part 15 
registered, is it even legal for ham use? If we build our own or heavily 
modify, that's one thing, but I think if it's a commercial product, it still 
has to meet FCC Part 15 doesn't it?



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